Rebajlo, I enjoy reading Heretic's posts on all topics, including feminism and its many toxic effects, and I've never once thought that he was "implying" that "all women are whores," much less do I recall him stating it explicitly. I also post a lot about feminism and how it's negatively affected women and society, but when I write, say, "women have declined," or "women are much more slutty than they used to be," I am talking in generalities, not condemning every single woman. Obviously, there are still traditional White women left, and there are still beautiful White women left, but there are less than there used to be and the number keeps dropping as far as I can tell. That's a tragedy of the highest order, and it needs to be discussed and analyzed so that if possible it can be halted and reversed.
I don't see anything in the world more harmful these days than feminism's contrived "gender war" against men. It's harmful to men, women, children, the traditional family unit, and healthy White societies. When feminism is essentially a state religion backed by law to enforce it, it does indeed unleash and sanctify the worst of female behavior, not to mention how it is also encouraged and rewarded by the media. Men used to be able to check and control woman's nature; we can't anymore unless we want to risk a pretty good chance of going to jail or being raped in divorce court.
Regardless, one's opinion on this topic has nothing to do with one's ability to get laid. Heretic never mentioned you, yet you decided to make your rebuttal personal with a barrage of insults. If you don't think feminism is and has been detrimental to femininity and the mental and physical health of women, then defend that position without insulting anyone.
BTW, I enjoy your posts as well, I'm sure if I met you or Heretic we could enjoy a few drinks together. Let's keep things respectful.
Don -
Yes, you often post about feminism and its negative effects upon women and society but your language and tone doesn’t drip with organic, misogynistic virulence and frustration. Of course you are speaking in generalities when you make statements such the ones you used as examples. That’s a given. But nobody can possibly deny that Heretic has an abysmally low opinion of women. I don’t believe even Heretic himself would disagree with me there…
Take a look at the following quotation…
Heretic said:
Terrible. Desperate. Weak. I'm in the same general area as you and it's pretty bad. If he wanted children, surrogacy could be an option, but it's so expensive (for a decent "host"). Another option would be to go overseas or to Eastern Europe or Russia, but, again, you'd need a lot of cash and jobs for foreigners aren't easy to come by. Fertile fembots won't be available for probably another ten years, so that's not a possibility for any man right now in his situation (which is just about every Western man nowadays).
This also made me think the other day after I watched Frost's introduction to Nebraska. He got married at 41 and had his first child at 42. Tim Tebow is still unmarried and Prince Harry was just engaged to an average looking mulatto who's been previously married. These are all highly-successful, wealthy, heterosexual men who, obviously, even have very few options. That says an awful lot about the state of Western White women today or just Western women in general, does it not? Am I missing something?
http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/ultimate-cucks.35904/page-2#post-713665
Here he replied to a post about an “ultimate cuck” candidate, stating that “Fertile fembots won’t be available for probably another ten years, so that’s not a possibility for any man right now in his [i.e. the “cuck’s”] situation (which is just about every Western man nowadays)”.
So, according to Heretic, “just about every Western man” is in the same “situation”. Really? Which “situation” is that? Choosing to marry hard-core feminists due to the presumable unavailability of Western women who aren’t hard-core feminists? Or having to endure the lack of “options” for having a child without a wife or girlfriend due to the exorbitant cost of a “decent” surrogate “host” and the unavailability of “fertile fembots”?
He proceeds to observe that “Tim Tebow is still unmarried and Prince Harry was just engaged to an average looking mulatto who’s been previously married. These are all highly-successful, wealthy, heterosexual men who, obviously, even have very few options. That says an awful lot about the state of Western White women today or just Western women in general, does it not? Am I missing something”
I’d say he’s missing quite a lot.
You and all of the other American members obviously know far more about Tebow than I do but - in my opinion - the bloke is a milksop multiculturalist “Christian” do-gooder whose rigid belief in complete abstention from pre-marital sex has without doubt distorted his perception of, and expectations from, a “relationship” and shall continue to do so. The longer he maintains his abstemious “streak”, the more those perceptions and expectations shall be unhealthily warped. He is probably convinced that God shall eventually “provide” him with a breathtakingly beautiful “model” or “cheerleader” virgin who shares his beliefs. Good luck with that. Tebow has also stated that he wants to adopt a child from every continent. Regardless of the man’s money and fame, the articulation of such an absurd desire to adopt multiple children of different races solely for “spiritually” philanthropic reasons is enough to put almost all women off, even the pitifully deluded two-church-services-every-Sunday types whose charity wall calendars feature photos of grinning Negro brats posing beside water pumps. The only females who’d be interested in participating in such madness would be the kind whose fanatical “faith” is necessarily proportional to their physical unattractiveness. You know, the ugly, perennially rejected, psychologically crushed, “involuntary” virgin “Save The Children” missionaries who nobody bar a pervert will touch and who seek solace and self-validation in performing what they believe are “good deeds”. But I’m sure Tebow isn’t interested in such a “soul mate”, is he…
As for Prince Harry, that privileged twat could have had his pick of glamorous aristocratic females or - for that matter - beautiful upper-class girls from the length and breadth of the British Isles and Europe. Anyone who believes that a f#@king prince of the realm has “very few options” must have proverbial rocks in his head.
Prince Harry’s choice of fiance has nothing to do with “the state of Western White women” and has everything to do with his own so-called “progressive” worldview, which is something he inherited from his Paki and Arab loving mother. I’m sure the prick is enjoying sticking his middle finger up at the “establishment” which he doubtlessly blames for the demise the late Princess of Wales. Incidentally, I always told my mother that Harry would end up marrying a non-White woman. My Mum thought I was mad but - when his “relationship” with Markle came to light - she quickly admitted that my seemingly preposterous prediction had been unerringly accurate. Sadly, I was also correct almost three decades ago when I predicted that one of my two best friends would eventually marry an Asian woman…
Despite the need for a lot of cash and the fact that “jobs for foreigners aren’t easy to come by”, perhaps Heretic himself should “go overseas” or move to eastern Europe or Russia. But more on eastern European and Russian women later…
Odds on you won’t remember this - after all, why would you, as the forum contains almost 378,000 posts - but I once amicably attempted to broach the subject of Heretic’s insistence that he hardly ever sees any good looking or “feminine” girls anymore:
http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/we-are-living-in-a-cartoon.15495/page-20#post-694229
Yet no response was forthcoming. Fair enough, he might have missed it. As I said, there are a lot of posts being made on a daily basis so questions can easily become lost, particularly if someone takes a break from the forum for a while.
Several months later, I made another - noticeably less amicable but nevertheless non-aggressive or insulting - attempt to engage him upon the same subject. I even politely pointed out that I had asked a similar question before:
http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/men-these-days.36101/page-2#post-702146
No response...
In the past, certain members have on occasion lambasted me for the length of my posts. I don’t post very often but when I do, I take the time to try to address every point an interlocutor raises or every question which is put to me, no matter how awkward or insulting. It’s too bad that a minute number of posters reply selectively or simply choose to ignore “inconvenient” questions. You have doubtlessly noted my latest fruitless endeavours to elicit responses to that “thorny” and oft-repeated question pertaining to Hitler’s
Generalplan Ost…
Heretic’s declarations about “Western sluts” starting to take the pill “almost mandatorily when they turn 12 years old” and that he would never “be attracted to a contemporary Brit female or the vast majority of Western females today” plus the “crotch grab” comment infuriated me to the point that I felt compelled to dish a serve back.
Heretic never even referred to the main body of my initial post, which pointed out that alcoholism is far more rampant and destructive in eastern Europe and Russia than it is in the UK. In fact, nobody did. I’m sure that had I posted a few videos of drunken English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Australian, American, or Canadian people - particularly young females - certain members would in all probability have gleefully chimed in with derisive comments about the disgusting and degenerate behaviour in the decadent West, especially within the Anglosphere. But as the video footage and photo were of incredibly primitive
Russian drunkards and uncouth young
Russian females the silence was predictably deafening.
Some of our lads appear to be under the impression that Russian and “eastern European” women are made of an almost fabulously superior moral fibre to that of “Western” girls, the “majority” of whom are supposedly no different to the slags initially featured in this thread. Beautiful Russian and eastern European women don’t drink to excess, don’t smoke, don’t have tattoos, and don’t sleep around. They’re “traditional”. They’re not materialistic. They’re pro-White. All of which makes them dream marriage material and a refreshing antidote to feminism-infected “Anglo” women.
At the risk of sounding like a “pretentious, sanctimonious, know-it-all”, that’s simply a load of bollocks, complete with a bonus dose of jock rot. Why? Because I’ve lived in Poland and seen “eastern European” women in action. My opinions aren’t based upon the tendentious blogs of Putin-idealising US alt-right purveyors of wishful thinking nor the propaganda tubes of ultra-jingoistic Russians who imperiously claim that everything Russian is superior to everything in the West simply because it
is Russian. If you think that your “DWF” Americans with their chants of “USA! USA! USA!” are mindlessly chauvinistic, you’d be utterly appalled when directly exposed to Russian “nationalists” - particularly once they’ve loosened up after sinking a bit of booze, which instantly evaporates what little inhibitions they may have. But I digress. You may recall I once wrote that if the Western men who extol the traditional, “feminism-free” virtues of Russian and eastern European women were exposed to a cross section of “above average looking” females in that part of the world they would doubtlessly suffer an erection-softening shock at the attitudes of entitlement and hauteur prevalent among the objects of their desire. Well, that’s an understatement…
I’ve never claimed that feminism is not - or has not been - detrimental to femininity, et cetera so I have absolutely no need to defend such a position. In fact, it can safely be said that I probably abhor feminism far more than most “Western” blokes, perhaps even a small portion of the hard-core men’s rights fanatics. The difference - as I wrote in my last post - is that I don’t hate women. That may sound like an absurd and almost heretical concept to many of the embittered MGTOW types, but my attitudes toward - and experiences with - the fairer sex are maybe just a touch different to theirs. Allow me to elaborate…
Down the years, a significant number of women of certain sensibilities have readily referred to me as an anachronism - a modern-day incarnation of an old-style gentleman. Depending on the romanticised “archetypes” of their individual literary and artistic tastes, they have labelled me a Regency, Victorian or Edwardian “gentleman”, or even an “Arthurian knight”. My lady, for instance, says that upon our first meeting she perceived me as “the perfect English gentleman” - and that’s even before I dropped in my first quotation from Shelley’s Queen Mab…
’Tis all pure whimsical fancy on the part of the females in question, of course, but the point I’m making should be quite transparent. I cannot - and have never been able to - abide vulgar, loud-mouthed, bumptious, and slatternly women, particularly those who try to emulate the crass behaviour of men or who evince masculine attitudes. Furthermore, although I take great pride in primarily judging women upon their virtues and intelligence, I have been cursed by a lifelong obsession with female beauty which mayhap borders on pathological aestheticism. Tattoos, “piercings”, mannish - or even very short - coiffures, and shabby, painfully inelegant “clothing” turn my stomach. The wider social and civilisational implications of so-called “feminist” doctrines are both unambiguously clear and utterly repellent. But - once again - I may hate feminism, but I don’t hate, dismiss, or deride women as some sort of biologically evil parasites or
de facto prostitutes.
We live in the world of today and hence must operate within the parameters of the present, distasteful as those parameters may be. It’s all well and good to constantly complain about how things are now worse than they were thirty, forty, fifty, or sixty years ago and how the decline of Western cultural and social structures and mores coupled with the destructive, ever-expanding progress of feminism has made it increasingly difficult to find a “decent” woman. But we can choose to react to the current environment in a couple of ways. One can curl up into a little thumb-sucking ball and resignedly wallow in the inescapable hopelessness of it all while imagining how things “should” be and fantasising about the bevies of stunningly beautiful, charmingly wholesome women who would have been 100% guaranteed to throw themselves at one’s feet back in the good old pre-feminist days in which everything was perfect and relationship problems never existed. Deucedly productive attitude, that. Jolly good for the health. Or…one can take the more difficult approach and actually try to make something of the potential “relationship” opportunities life presents one with.
Of course, there isn’t exactly a surfeit of women who are either consciously pro-White or who subscribe to - let’s say - the strictly defined gender roles of the 1950s. There are even less who “fulfil” both of those “essential” criteria. What a ******* disaster, eh.
Perhaps it’s time to reach for a handy licensed firearm and end it all. But our big bad world is packed full of White women who can perchance be
dissuaded from adhering to the damaging feminist or quasi-feminist attitudes they have been indoctrinated into or who can be
persuaded to become pro-White. It isn’t always easy - in fact, it’s never easy at all - but it can be done. Who else but White men can initially stem and eventually reverse the seemingly unstoppable tide of feminist / Cultural Marxist / et cetera thought? But it certainly shan’t be achieved by sitting around griping, will it. If “disgruntled”, “racially conscious” White men expect to miraculously encounter plenty of ready-made, highly attractive pro-White women with the mentality of a 1950s housewife on a daily basis, well, it’s no surprise that they are highly disappointed with life.
When White men simply withdraw from the lists and choose to immerse themselves in bitterly negative “men’s rights” and “men going their own way” online support groups (sorry - perhaps I should have referred to them as “communities”) then their fatalistic disaffections, suspicions, and fears become self-fulfilling prophecies and they shall remain single for the rest of their increasingly miserable and crushingly lonely lives.
As you can see, I’m not a great fan of the oh-woe-is-me whining from blokes who seem to blame everything and everyone but themselves for being perennially single. “It’s not my fault - no f#@k’n way. The stuck up, materialistic sluts are to blame. F#@k’n molls, think they’re too good for me. Well they’re f#@k’n not! That’n the feminist bitches, the f#@k’n Hollywood Jews’n their leftist race traitor lackeys. I’d f#@k’n kick the sh!t outta the lot of ‘em. Yeah! There’s no such thing as love. It’s all ******** ‘cause women are all selfish whores who just wanna milk ya dry.” (pause) “Cunts!” (pause) “Right, where are we off to tonight? We’ll start piss’n up at five, place a few bets on the footy, then head off to the strippers. Er, can ya lend me fifty bucks…”.
I’ve related the story of my “courtship” of my lady on a previous occasion but I’ll summarise it again. When we met via work, she was very left-leaning, having been indoctrinated with the usual poison by the usual “professors” while at university. To top things off, she had grown up in a strict Protestant environment, complete with the standard indigestible fare of “tolerance” and love for innocently smiling Negroes and other dark-skinned “children of God” who - apart from the fact that they always “inexplicably” live in squalid poverty and perennially require White food and medical aid to survive - are “just like us”. But she was also extraordinarily warm, kind and intelligent and had appeared to take an instant liking to me so I decided to explore where things may lead. Now, the moment she declared that she didn’t like “racists” I could have simply decided to write her off as another well fit but instantly “unacceptable” girl before slinking off to post about this newest disappointment online. Instead, I inwardly winced before thinking “we’ll see” as I diverted the conversation away from politics and current events back to the safer topics of literature and the beauty of the English natural landscape.
’Twas only after we were “together” for a while that I began to ease into politics, generally through the conduit of my ostensibly innocent discourses about British history and culture. These served to sow the seeds of soon-to-be-used essential reference points of White identity, achievement, and tradition and the vital need to protect such priceless and unique European legacies. Once the necessary subtle discussions had taken place in order to cushion the inevitable, unavoidably heavy blow, I carefully - and nervously - picked my time and tactfully - and nervously - revealed and justified my racial philosophies, complete with an explanation of why I hadn’t mentioned any of this earlier. The poor girl was understandably quite shocked and - also understandably - less than impressed. But she didn’t run off screaming, never to return. Instead, she was open to listening as she knew I was a committed “nice guy” who loved her.
Now, it’s quite self-evident that such a strategy shan’t always work. If a woman happens to be an ultra-hard-core, irredeemably brainwashed leftist / feminist in every sense of the words who is “active in the community” it’s not even remotely worth trying, regardless of the physical charms which may be on offer. Then again, who in their right mind is interested in those types anyway, no matter how loaded with sex appeal and raw intelligence those types may sometimes be. But most women cannot be classified within the aforementioned extreme category. Like most men, they fall prey to whatever propaganda is currently being disseminated by politicians, religious figures, the media and the various organs of “popular culture”, irrespective of its content. Unfortunately, that’s human nature in a nutshell. The majority of people require someone else to form their opinions for them because they either cannot or are too lazy to think for themselves and simply wish to “fit in”. Without even realising it, they need to be told what to wear, how to cut their hair, which music to listen to, which films to watch, which terms are acceptable, which terms should be censored, who or what to like and who or what to hate and fear. The human propensity for fickleness and succumbing to indoctrination may be intellectually contemptible but - conversely - it offers much hope for change and a potentially rapid reversal of prevalent political and cultural trends.
I never said that Heretic’s opinion on the topic is related to his ability to get laid. But I do aver that many of the “men going their own way” bloggers and amateur psychologists are bleakly lonely, toxically bitter, obsessively vengeful, prematurely balding erectile dysfunction wimps and / or closet bisexuals or homos who’ve either never had any success with women or have suffered some sort of emotionally crippling “relationship” trauma or humiliation yet try to pass themselves off as magisterial authorities on male-female dynamics.
In the case of Heretic, I drew a connection between his undeniably low opinion of women and an inability to establish or maintain a profound emotional bond with a woman - i.e. a loving, long-term relationship.
I’ll add one final thought. Many of the men who currently find it either difficult or impossible to initiate contact with women or to maintain a relationship (healthy or otherwise) would experience similar problems in any age, be it today or back in the good old “pre-feminism” days of clear cut gender roles and svelter, well-dressed, tattoo-free ladies. Why? Not because of caustic feminism or any other external cultural factors but as a direct result of their maladjusted attitudes, their multifarious self-esteem issues, and their sheer natural distrust or loathing of women. I am acquainted with “racially aware”, permanently “single” fellows who incessantly carp about modern women being immoral, crass sluts and unfeeling, congenitally evil parasites simply because they couldn’t get anywhere with even the most desperate female if their lives depended on it…
