Muslim kills 50 homosexuals in Florida

[Charles Martel]

Christians are also supposed to take tremendous issue with homosexuals, but they don't because over the years their morals have been eroded, lack the conviction, and lack the discipline.

Christians do disapprove of homosexuality, Paul spoke against it (although Jesus didn't).

But the Christian Bible teaches people to OBEY THE LAW, so killing gays would not be a Christian thing to do.

The New Testament OVERRULES the Hebrew Torah (which includes Leviticus). Jesus taught people to forgive.

I don't like gays, but I think what the terrorist did was horribly wrong.

 

[Charles Martel]

Killing Homosexuals Is Not ISIS Law, It Is Muslim Law

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...g-florida-anti-gay-violence-rooted-muslim-law

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...g-florida-anti-gay-violence-rooted-muslim-law

Various reports indicate that the death toll from the jihadist attack overnight at a popular gay club in Orlando may exceed 50 people, with more than 50 others wounded. The terrorist’s identity has been reported: He is Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old American citizen and devout Muslim from Fort Pierce, Fla., the son of immigrants from Afghanistan.

The FBI has indicated that Mateen, who was killed in a shootout with police at about 5 a.m., was an Islamic extremist. Representative Peter King (R., N.Y.), who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, says the shooter was “trained in the use of weapons.” As we have noted here many times, military training is generally the key that separates competent terrorists from wannabes. But whether actual or would-be jihadists, these Muslims are motivated by Islamic supremacism, the belief that sharia, Islam’s ancient, totalitarian law, must be imposed on society.

Based on all this, there is abundant Washington and media speculation that the attack is “ISIS-inspired.” This is consistent with the bipartisan, government-approved inanity we have been following for a quarter-century, what I often call the political class’s concoction of “An Islam of Their Very Own.” It goes something like this: Islam is a religion of peace, period. End of discussion.

“Violent extremist” outfits such as ISIS and al-Qaeda kill wantonly, with no real ideological motivation. ISIS and al-Qaeda are thus not Islamic, but actually anti-Islamic — and if they cite Islamic scripture to justify their atrocities, they are “hijacking” and “perverting” Islam. Because we must see these groups as “anti-Islam” rather than Islam, it is acceptable to call a mass-murder attack “terrorism” only if law-enforcement develops some plausible tie to these groups. Otherwise, if a Muslim is involved, stick with “workplace violence” and the like.

Finally when an attack committed by a Muslim is too obviously terrorism to deny, call it “ISIS-inspired,” or “al-Qaeda-inspired,” or “Hamas political resistance,” etc. — but by all means do not, absolutely do not, ascribe it to Islam in any way shape or form. This is idiocy. Will today’s event, the worst mass shooting in American history, help us see that? We need to consider separately Islam and its sharia law.

RELATED: Dispelling the ‘Few Extremists’ Myth — the Muslim World Is Overcome with Hate

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...g-florida-anti-gay-violence-rooted-muslim-law

 

[Thrashen]

A list of victims who died during the shooting. Overwhelmingly Hispanic males, probably a high percentage of whom were Cubans...

Edward Sotomayor Jr., 34 years old

Stanley Almodovar III, 23 years old

Luis Omar Ocasio-Capo, 20 years old

Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22 years old

Eric Ivan Ortiz-Rivera, 36 years old

Peter O. Gonzalez-Cruz, 22 years old

Luis S. Vielma, 22 years old

Kimberly Morris, 37 years old

Eddie Jamoldroy Justice, 30 years old

Darryl Roman Burt II, 29 years old

Deonka Deidra Drayton, 32 years old

Alejandro Barrios Martinez, 21 years old

Anthony Luis Laureanodisla, 25 years old

Jean Carlos Mendez Perez, 35 years old

Franky Jimmy Dejesus Velazquez, 50 years old

Amanda Alvear, 25 years old

Martin Benitez Torres, 33 years old

Luis Daniel Wilson-Leon, 37 years old

Mercedez Marisol Flores, 26 years old

Xavier Emmanuel Serrano Rosado, 35 years old

Gilberto Ramon Silva Menendez, 25 years old

Simon Adrian Carrillo Fernandez, 31 years old

Oscar A Aracena-Montero, 26 years old

Enrique L. Rios, Jr., 25 years old

Miguel Angel Honorato, 30 years old

Javier Jorge-Reyes, 40 years old

Joel Rayon Paniagua, 32 years old

Jason Benjamin Josaphat, 19 years old

Cory James Connell, 21 years old

Juan P. Rivera Velazquez, 37 years old

Luis Daniel Conde, 39 years old

Shane Evan Tomlinson, 33 years old

Juan Chevez-Martinez, 25 years old

Jerald Arthur Wright, 31 years old

Leroy Valentin Fernandez, 25 years old

Tevin Eugene Crosby, 25 years old

Jonathan Antonio Camuy Vega, 24 years old

Jean C. Nives Rodriguez, 27 years old

Rodolfo Ayala-Ayala, 33 years old

Brenda Lee Marquez McCool, 49 years old

Yilmary Rodriguez Sulivan, 24 years old

Christopher Andrew Leinonen, 32 years old

Angel L. Candelario-Padro, 28 years old

Frank Hernandez, 27 years old

Paul Terrell Henry, 41 years old

Antonio Davon Brown, 29 years old

Christopher Joseph Sanfeliz 24 years old

http://www.cityoforlando.net/blog/victims/

An Arab, Muslim gunman with gay, Hispanic victims. For once, straight, white males can't be blamed.

 

[Charles Martel]

 

[fernchris55]

^BS says if you're a Christian or not who's disgusted with Cultural Marxism, homosexuality, and feminism then Islam could be the ticket. No thanks BS, you may "not mind this kind of immigration" of your co-religionists, but for the rest of us infidels, substituting one form of totalitarianism for another is not a choice. That's like the "choice" Eastern Europe had after being "liberated" by the Soviets from the Nazi's. Thanks a lot BS, but I'll pass.
PS. BS. "...at least he had the conviction and discipline to follow through on his beliefs..." In the service of an evil Satanic cause like Islam there's nothing to admire in such "courage," but plenty to fear. No evil is 2-dimensional, and because some dictator (for example) had autobahns built and provided Volkswagens for the folks and made the trains run on time, doesn't excuse looking at the BIG PICTURE. I have far more admiration and awe for those 19 Kurdish women who were recently burned to death in cages by ISIS for not submitting willfully to serial rape. Your mention of Eastern Europe is the proper example.
O.T...what will the Sharia courts think of your little hobby, sheik-ur-booty pornographer?

 

[fernchris55]

Killing Homosexuals Is Not ISIS Law, It Is Muslim Law

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...g-florida-anti-gay-violence-rooted-muslim-law

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...g-florida-anti-gay-violence-rooted-muslim-law

Various reports indicate that the death toll from the jihadist attack overnight at a popular gay club in Orlando may exceed 50 people, with more than 50 others wounded. The terrorist’s identity has been reported: He is Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old American citizen and devout Muslim from Fort Pierce, Fla., the son of immigrants from Afghanistan.

The FBI has indicated that Mateen, who was killed in a shootout with police at about 5 a.m., was an Islamic extremist. Representative Peter King (R., N.Y.), who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, says the shooter was “trained in the use of weapons.” As we have noted here many times, military training is generally the key that separates competent terrorists from wannabes. But whether actual or would-be jihadists, these Muslims are motivated by Islamic supremacism, the belief that sharia, Islam’s ancient, totalitarian law, must be imposed on society.

Based on all this, there is abundant Washington and media speculation that the attack is “ISIS-inspired.” This is consistent with the bipartisan, government-approved inanity we have been following for a quarter-century, what I often call the political class’s concoction of “An Islam of Their Very Own.” It goes something like this: Islam is a religion of peace, period. End of discussion.

“Violent extremist” outfits such as ISIS and al-Qaeda kill wantonly, with no real ideological motivation. ISIS and al-Qaeda are thus not Islamic, but actually anti-Islamic — and if they cite Islamic scripture to justify their atrocities, they are “hijacking” and “perverting” Islam. Because we must see these groups as “anti-Islam” rather than Islam, it is acceptable to call a mass-murder attack “terrorism” only if law-enforcement develops some plausible tie to these groups. Otherwise, if a Muslim is involved, stick with “workplace violence” and the like.

Finally when an attack committed by a Muslim is too obviously terrorism to deny, call it “ISIS-inspired,” or “al-Qaeda-inspired,” or “Hamas political resistance,” etc. — but by all means do not, absolutely do not, ascribe it to Islam in any way shape or form. This is idiocy. Will today’s event, the worst mass shooting in American history, help us see that? We need to consider separately Islam and its sharia law.

RELATED: Dispelling the ‘Few Extremists’ Myth — the Muslim World Is Overcome with Hate

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...g-florida-anti-gay-violence-rooted-muslim-law

Tks. Charles.
The cucks at National Review are Neo-Cons, but are still useful idiots (our useful idiots) in their scholarship. This article and it's links are very useful in establishing "approved" English-written interpretations of Islamic/Sharia law by Sunni Islams highest authorities both in the Middle East, and over in the West.
The so far successful attempts by the Lefts mouthpieces to convince general public opinion that radical groups are not legitimately inspired by the Koran is exploded by pieces such as this. I only wish The Donald was capable of expressing these detailed points coherently, or at least hire a speech writer like Buchanan to put the words in a TelePrompTer mouth for him.
P.S....Stand up comedian Norton must be banned from most venues and campuses with such refreshing P-in-C.

 

[Flint]

It's a horrible tragedy to be sure. While I'm generally not too concerned about the fate of a bar full of gays the fact is that one should frown on crazy muslim bastards going into places full of people and shooting them up. I find it hard to believe that one guy could kill 50 people at once like that. Sure they were unarmed but they must have panicked, run, hit the ground, freaked out. How do you deliver 49 kill shots in that situation? Amazing really. I don't believe that it was faked, it goes against the agenda too much to be something someone at a high level would plan. It just seems very odd how it happened.

Trump made a speech about it today and it was full of good stuff. Worth checking out. Stuff no other politician would ever say. Love him or hate him he is certainly one of a kind. And if he is faking it at least he is faking it the right way. Buchanan's latest column is great too, but everything he writes is gold. I wish Trump would add him to his campaign.

 

[icsept]

Icsept, can you provide some evidence or explain why you believe this is a hoax.

I do believe that Sandy Hook was in fact a hoax. There was a tremendous number of inconsistencies and lack of evidence presented in favor of the mass shooting. There was also a massive coverup afterward which included demolishing the school posthaste. All of the details were maticulously documented here and throughout the web. I'll also say that the Boston Bombing could have been a hoax, though I'm not as certain out that one.

However, I do believe that terrorist events and mass shootings really do just happen sometimes. When the US government bombs Muslim homelands, while at the same time taking in massive numbers of radicals from these same countries, it's an obvious recipe for disaster.

I haven't studied the details of this particular event. I have extensively researched many similar events and can recognize hoaxes just reading the headlines. Motiveless mass shootings are fictional. Everyone immediately emotionally reacts and starts debating, taking sides, placing blame, etc., without asking the fundamental question: Is this a real event? This story checks all the ******** boxes: Islam, gays, guns, heroes...it's a major media event. These are money makers, law changers, political footballs. The only way to overcome these psyops is to disengage and don't take the bait. I'm not trolling or trying to be provocative, I just feel compelled to remind everyone to consider whether an event is real before they start emotionally reacting to the story.

 

[Westside]

Calling Werewolf, calling werewolf. crazed closet homosexual Afghan goes bezerk and murders a club full out of the closet homosexuals. No doubt a "false flag" and the creative work of the Mossad, Jew Intelligence service. LOL

 

[Westside]

It's a horrible tragedy to be sure. While I'm generally not too concerned about the fate of a bar full of gays the fact is that one should frown on crazy muslim bastards going into places full of people and shooting them up. I find it hard to believe that one guy could kill 50 people at once like that. Sure they were unarmed but they must have panicked, run, hit the ground, freaked out. How do you deliver 49 kill shots in that situation? Amazing really. I don't believe that it was faked, it goes against the agenda too much to be something someone at a high level would plan. It just seems very odd how it happened.

Trump made a speech about it today and it was full of good stuff. Worth checking out. Stuff no other politician would ever say. Love him or hate him he is certainly one of a kind. And if he is faking it at least he is faking it the right way. Buchanan's latest column is great too, but everything he writes is gold. I wish Trump would add him to his campaign.

Jaxvid, I am going to treat you like Cassius Clay and never refer to you as Flint, your Anglo Saxon cool wannabe name. You will always be Jaxvid to me. LOL. But seriously, it would be relatively easily to massacre 50 people by converting his AR-15 to a full automatic weapon. He could spray 30 or 50 rounds in seconds , drop the mag, then install another magazine of 30 or 50 and spray rounds in seconds. They say they found 3 expended mags at the crime scene with another mag yet to be expended.

 

[fernchris55]

I haven't studied the details of this particular event. I have extensively researched many similar events and can recognize hoaxes just reading the headlines. Motiveless mass shootings are fictional. Everyone immediately emotionally reacts and starts debating, taking sides, placing blame, etc., without asking the fundamental question: Is this a real event? This story checks all the ******** boxes: Islam, gays, guns, heroes...it's a major media event. These are money makers, law changers, political footballs. The only way to overcome these psyops is to disengage and don't take the bait. I'm not trolling or trying to be provocative, I just feel compelled to remind everyone to consider whether an event is real before they start emotionally reacting to the story.

"All the Worlds' a stage" in Icsept's Globe theater. Even this comment might be part of a script being recited by an actor whose strings are being pulled. Are you pulling our legs Icsept? If you are, I like your sense of humor.
The thing with de facto Conspiracy-Theorists, not an actual conspiracy, is that they love to point out that everyone is a rube and only a select few (Illuminati?) can see reality while the rest are reading Braille. It's easy to point out gaps in knowledge because that's the very nature of perception.
The Hells Angels theory of conspiracies: "3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead." Of course if that one suffers multiple-personality disorder.......

 

[CrazyFinn]

This story has turned into quite a clusterf*ck. What we appear to have is a closeted homosexual Muslim terrorist. Now I've seen it all. The victims are almost entirely Hispanic gays and lesbians.

In the complete absence of a blond haired, blue eyed, Christian heterosexual male anywhere in this matter, how the heck are they going to spin this one? Is this even a hate crime since a homosexual has basically murdered members of his own community.

It will be next to impossible to pin this one on the white patriarchy and privilege, but they'll try.

 

[Thrashen]

This story has turned into quite a clusterf*ck. What we appear to have is a closeted homosexual Muslim terrorist. Now I've seen it all. The victims are almost entirely Hispanic gays and lesbians.

In the complete absence of a blond haired, blue eyed, Christian heterosexual male anywhere in this matter, how the heck are they going to spin this one? Is this even a hate crime since a homosexual has basically murdered members of his own community.

It will be next to impossible to pin this one on the white patriarchy and privilege, but they'll try.

Yeah, this sand negro seemed like a prize-winning fruitcake and sociopath. Countless people from his past are now coming forward about his bizarre brand of faggotry. Apparently, he's been frequenting gay bars for his entire adult life, used gay hookup apps, asked out various gay men for dates, befriended drag-queens, danced with other gays, and exhibited other gay tendencies according to his wife and ex-wife...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lked-wife-kid-massacring-49-people-there.html

In addition to being a closet queer, this freak was also on the FBI's "terror watch list" for his connections to hardcore Muslim terrorist groups in the Middle East, pledged his soul to ISIL/ISIS, he was registered Democrat, repeatedly beat his wife, and even threatened to shoot-up his elementary school in the 5th grade. How disconcerting to think that sand parasites like this now infest every Western nation...

 

[McCaffrey Dude]

Yeah, this sand negro seemed like a prize-winning fruitcake and sociopath. Countless people from his past are now coming forward about his bizarre brand of faggotry. Apparently, he's been frequenting gay bars for his entire adult life, used gay hookup apps, asked out various gay men for dates, befriended drag-queens, danced with other gays, and exhibited other gay tendencies according to his wife and ex-wife...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lked-wife-kid-massacring-49-people-there.html

In addition to being a closet queer, this freak was also on the FBI's "terror watch list" for his connections to hardcore Muslim terrorist groups in the Middle East, pledged his soul to ISIL/ISIS, he was registered Democrat, repeatedly beat his wife, and even threatened to shoot-up his elementary school in the 5th grade. How disconcerting to think that sand parasites like this now infest every Western nation...

 

[McCaffrey Dude]

When you wear a watch on both arms you know this guy is a loony-toon.

 

[Leonardfan]

interestingly enough this terrorist was a closeted gay man pretty much negating boxing specialists whole diatribe about how Muslims are the only solution to cultural Marxism and how this Muslim was just adhering to his beliefs. If anything their is rampant pedophilia and homosexuality in Muslim majority countries. Islam does not have any sort
Of moral superiority to the judeo-Christian beliefs this country was founded on.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Nothing good can ever come from Muslims. They are extremely anti-white and anti-West.

 

[Westside]

Jaxvid, I am going to treat you like Cassius Clay and never refer to you as Flint, your Anglo Saxon cool wannabe name. You will always be Jaxvid to me. LOL. But seriously, it would be relatively easily to massacre 50 people by converting his AR-15 to a full automatic weapon. He could spray 30 or 50 rounds in seconds , drop the mag, then install another magazine of 30 or 50 and spray rounds in seconds. They say they found 3 expended mags at the crime scene with another mag yet to be expended.

Update: He did not use an AR-15. Something called a Sig Sauer MCX Carbine type piece of junk according to reports. However the vile MSM will not put it out.

 

[Don Wassall]

I think it's wise to maintain a healthy skepticism when it comes to anything the "mainstream" media feeds us. When the "evil Muslim" or Muslims is trotted out as the bad guy everyone instantly accepts the media narrative.

Looking at Orlando from a distance, I see similarities to other controversial mass shooting events. Where is the video of dead and injured bodies, of ambulances taking them away? All I've seen is the same two or three people being carried and put in a pickup truck. Where is the surveillance footage of the perp entering the establishment and then footage of him inside? Why with hundreds of people in the building and around it, is there no footage of mass panic, injured and dead patrons, dozens of screaming ambulances arriving?

I have seen the obligatory hero, a former soldier who is said to have saved dozens of lives. I've seen people crying, or trying to cry, but as always there are no tears or other signs of real grief as happens to eyes and faces that have been weeping.

I'm still waiting to see footage of Adam Lanza in and around the (obviously no longer in use) Sandy Hook elementary school. I'm still waiting to see footage of the airplane hitting the Pentagon (there were only 100 or so surveillance cameras in the vicinity that should have caught it), and for a credible explanation of how WTC Building 7 fell, demolition style, into its footprint without even being hit by a plane. The terrorists supposedly struck in Paris, but all I've seen is a picture of overturned tables at a restaurant and a fuzzy shot of what is alleged to be blood on the floor of a nightclub. Amazing that with thousands of Parisians walking around with smart phones that no one filmed anything.

Maybe the object is to have most people beg for a total surveillance/police state for protection, because that's what we're getting whether we like it or not. Look up Operation Gladio.

Here's a couple links to Paul Craig Roberts' take on Orlando: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/13/orlando-shooting-paul-craig-roberts/
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/14/orlando-shooting-still-no-evidence/

 

[BeyondFedUp]

The Imposter gave a news conference today and apparently had a hissy about people wanting him to use the term radical islamic terrorism, or terms to that effect. His panties were surely in wad. I, of course didn't hear the presser, as I have avoided even hearing that Communist in Chief purposely for these 7 1/2 years that he's been nothing more than a squatter at 1600 Penn Ave. I just read some of his quotes from today. He's really wound up apparently and speaking from his dark and depraved heart. Hittin' too close to home for him I guess.

Also, does anyone else notice how as he gets older, he looks more and more like Frank Marshall Davis, his real father? Seems more and more obvious from here...

 

[The Hock]

Never heard of Frank Davis but I googled him and I'd say Obama should take a DNA test if he hasn't already.

 

[Charles Martel]

Looks like another Jihadist took hostages at a Wal-Mart in Texas (letters in Arabic found in his car) but was killed by Police

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/us/amarillo-walmart-armed-person/

 

[Charles Martel]

I think it's wise to maintain a healthy skepticism when it comes to anything the "mainstream" media feeds us. When the "evil Muslim" or Muslims is trotted out as the bad guy everyone instantly accepts the media narrative.

I agree.

Although I think it PROBABLY happened pretty much as it was described in the media, we should always keep an open mind.

Why no tears? Actor?

 

[fernchris55]

Grieving actors performing their roles as best supporting actors for the next Oscars???!!!
Please, has this forum gone nuts or is it already nuts!!! Sure, all the nightclub, ambulance, hospital, police, paramedics, firefighters, news outlets, city government, families of acting victims, neighbors, staff-personnel-representatives-civilians are all in on this because ((("THEY"))) have staged this???

 

[Freethinker]

I think the reason why many are skeptical of these mass shootings and terror events is because government and mass media lie with regularity. Governments have also been known to commit false flag terror attacks going back to the days of the Roman Empire and I'm sure before then too. Their credibility is almost zero in my book.

The Deep State has been running all kind of black ops since the inception of their alphabet agencies. Dealing drugs. Selling weapons and guns to drug lords, war lords, "freedom fighters" and other opposition armies. Assassinations. Providing bomb making materials to guilible patsies. Over throwing governments. Radicalizing Muslim fundamentalists. Running terror drills that seem to "go live" sometimes. Plenty more I'm surely forgetting.

With a government as corrupt as any to have existed, with modern technology and a complicit media on its side, we'd be fools to believe anything without credible evidence being presented.