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Regardless if this event was a completely staged event (ala Sandy Hoax) or not, one factual aspect of the case is that Omar Mateen does seem to have been a real person. The great website "PoliticalStrategies.com" provides voter registration information citizens of various states (FL being one of them) and Mateen is listed. The media stated that Mateen was 29 years old, lived about 100 miles from Orlando, was Arabic, and was a registered Democrat. Here is his information, which confirms all of these facts...

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Unlike Columbine, where the two perpetrators were seen on film firing guns and setting explosives in the lunch room, all of these new incidents seem to omit these critical pieces of evidence to keep skeptics at bay. Is it so hard to show us a photo of Adam Lanza or Omar Mateen dead at the scene like they did with the two Columbine kids?

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Right on que, the Orwellian, totalitarian DHS said they should be in charge of "gun control" & expressed 'concern' over "right wing extremists" (i.e. - Constitutionalists, Veterans, Bible believing (true) Christians & any straight, White (real) men). Like any major "tragedy", we must always ask...WHO stands to gain??

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The Psssst! Lord.
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His Master, the ZOG Emperor
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Seriously though, didn't the movie "Bad Santa" predict this. In fact the Middle Eastern actor in this clip I provide as evidence looks suspiciously like Omar. Ok, a little darker, but that's called artistic license.
 
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Regardless if this event was a completely staged event (ala Sandy Hoax) or not, one factual aspect of the case is that Omar Mateen does seem to have been a real person. The great website "PoliticalStrategies.com" provides voter registration information citizens of various states (FL being one of them) and Mateen is listed. The media stated that Mateen was 29 years old, lived about 100 miles from Orlando, was Arabic, and was a registered Democrat. Here is his information, which confirms all of these facts...

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Unlike Columbine, where the two perpetrators were seen on film firing guns and setting explosives in the lunch room, all of these new incidents seem to omit these critical pieces of evidence to keep skeptics at bay. Is it so hard to show us a photo of Adam Lanza or Omar Mateen dead at the scene like they did with the two Columbine kids?

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To state the obvious, in case we forgot in our haste:
If this event took place as described; surveillance footage, cell phone evidence etc., is not going to be released of people being killed, and photos of dead bodies, including Omar, likewise will not be "GIVEN" to the media and hence to us SKEPTICS. The families are given consideration. The media will then use the "freedom of Information Act" to acquire it. That doesn't happen immediately, as it is a judicial process. Eventually it occurs, or someone in law enforcement leaks it out and it finds it's way onto the Internet. So yes it is hard to show us photos of the dead, it's just that we forget the process.
But then we all knew that, but want our information to be as fast as the drive thru lane at....
 
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We should always be extremely skeptical of everything reported by the mainstream media. The media, just as in sports, has its agenda and biases which can distort or even fabricate events.

However, my initial feeling is this was not staged. It may be used to drum up anti-Islamic rhetoric. Muslims, Eastern Euros are often portrayed as some sort of "foreign enemy" in American media.
 

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BS 2, listen I have Muslim friends. But the major Muslim Mosques do not condemn this sh*t. What is worse, the vile Democrat party refuses to put the blame on the war like Muslim Religion, rather, they tell America to be on the look out for American born extremist terrorist (read pro White groups)! Further they say the 2nd Amend is the cause for this Jihadist for killing of 49 ppl, not the Jihadi ****! Really? There are too many f**king stupid Americans that swallow this sh*t. God help US.
 

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According to the official report, Mateen died after police smashed a hole through the wall with a "Bearcat" armored vehicle (following a failed attempt to create a hole with explosive devices) and he emerged from the hole, guns blazing. The holes from the bullets that allegedly killed the gay Muslim can be seen around the perimeter of the large hole (which supposedly leads into the bathroom at Pulse where the hostages were allegedly held and phone calls made during the "standoff") near the man in red...

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I understand that photos of dead bodies, even the purported perpetrator, are sensitive and that we "could see them eventually" (which was never the case with Adam Lanza after Sandy Hoax). Why can't they at least release the recordings of the alleged phone calls that Mateen made to 911 or perhaps show a call log showing that his cell phone number actually made those calls at the times reported?
 

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why take the risk to stage these events while they can interpret them so differently

for example trump is going to see this attack and ask for the end of muslim immigration, which is against their agenda, sosetting up this "false flag" would be useless and even counterproductive for them
but they interpret this as a hate crime against LGBT people, and they see this as another proof that weapons must be taken away from the people

for the same event, you have 2 opposed interpretations and 2 very different consequences depending on who is in control of the country
so what is the point of faking these killings when you can twist every event to fit your agenda?


Good post. Also, why would they target a gay Latino night with a Muslim? It's the political equivalent of a "blue on blue" event that can only benefit the Trump candidacy in particular and those who oppose more immigration in general. If the ruling class wanted to stage an attack they would make sure it was one that fit their narrative such as a white male killing non-whites or some other members of the minority coalition. Something the media could really sinks its teeth into that would shame just enough whites into ensuring some kind of victory for them, not only in the short term, but one they could hold over the heads of white (male) America for years to come.
 

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The result has been the strongest push yet for gun control. It has also created even more hatred for Muslims and makes it that much easier to increase police/surveillance state measures as the people beg for the government to make them safe. It pushes the narrative that "we" should embrace and defend homosexuals (and transgenders) because the Muslims hate them so much. If there are any pluses for freedom that have come out of this, staged or not, I don't see any.
 

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The result has been the strongest push yet for gun control. It has also created even more hatred for Muslims and makes it that much easier to increase police/surveillance state measures as the people beg for the government to make them safe. It pushes the narrative that "we" should embrace and defend homosexuals (and transgenders) because the Muslims hate them so much. If there are any pluses for freedom that have come out of this, staged or not, I don't see any.
I was going to mention this as well. This event has now also caused extreme sympathy for the homosexual "community" as well as the complete normalization of that lifestyle. At this point, anyone with even tepid opposition to that lifestyle or any agenda associated with it will be labeled as an "extremist", pushing the Overton Window even further to the left. I'm sure this aspect of the event wasn't overlooked by the PTB.

This will also be used as justification to rescind the 2018 World Cup Soccer event to be hosted in Russia. It will also be used to demonize Putin and Russia as well as other more traditional countries like Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, etc. that refuse to acquiesce to the "Gay" agenda. Of course, the hard-line Islamist countries will be exempt from this and continue to be used as "refugee" invaders into Western lands as a tool to nullify our Constitutional rights.
 

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i have seen a video of a black girl who said that in the bathroom of the club, the djihadist asked if there were black people in there, and a guy said yes, and the terrorist answered "i don't have a problem with black people, this is about my country, you guys have suffered enough" (a reference to slavery)
muslims sympathise a lot with black americans
islam is the religion of the 3rd world, of the non whites
 
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the thing you wouldn't be able to predict is that these attacks will actually be used to give more importance to islam in your country, build more mosques, give them a status similar to blacks, affirmative action, more muslim celebrities etc
they will say that there is the need for a local and western-compatible islam, and to do this they will give much more importance to muslims in the next years
 

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the left actually need inadaptable people to come in your country, otherwise there would be no need for social workers, obamacare etc
there are blacks,ok, but they aren't growing and they need more inadaptable people
muslims are perfect
even better are the romani but they don't have a big enough population
 

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A queer story to be sure. I heard in passing that the local SWAT gestapo admitted that some of the deaths might have been from them returning fire, I bet we don't get to see any evidence of that. In fact I think they should bulldoze the place down, truck away and bury the evidence, I mean the rubble, and erect a shrine to butt sex on the site.

Also lost in the Muslim-faggotry of the story is that this guy was trained to shoot by the DHS! He was basically a govt. contract worker. Michael Savage has been the only one I know to have made the point but the head of the DHS should be forced to resign.
 
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The problem is that there is no "middle ground". It has to be either right (Islam in many ways is the most traditional viewpoint out there) or left.

Collectively, White people living in the West (North America, Western Europe) have refused to put their foot down and enforce morality and as a consequence, the left has gradually won on every single issue theyve pushed. Women were given the vote, then they were given equality, now they are actually given superiority. Homosexuality was legalized, normalized, and is now encouraged. Transsexuals were once viewed as abnormal and mentally ill, today they are celebrated and viewed as "heroes". Having sex with animals has recently been brought into the Supreme Court of Canada and is now partially legal (this is not a joke). Blacks were given their freedom, given equal footing, and now have an advantage over many Whites in terms of affirmative action. Marijuana is being legalized, crack may be next.

I have no doubt that if things continue, pedophilia, cocaine, sex with animals, expanded animal rights to the level of a human, trans racialism, revoking the 2nd ammendment, revoking freedom of speech will all come to pass at some point. Probably sooner than later. The thing with the left is they are always demanding more and they get it because no one in the West is willing to uphold any sort of morals.

The point I am making is that collectively, Whites in the West have refused to enforce moral standards and once you concede on one issue, you concede on all issues gradually. Give someone an inch and they will take a yard plus. It all started with giving women the vote.

As Don Wassall and others have stated, there is no real opposition to the left in the West. It doesnt exist in an organized fashion currently. There are sites like this one but we are outnumbered and our ideas are probably shared by less than 1% of the population. The best resistance to the left may in fact come from immigration, Muslims specifically but not completely.

Mosques refuse to condemn these attacks because Islam teaches that homosexuality is wrong, and unlike passive Christianity, Islam also teaches to protect Islamic law and honour through force or "Jihad". Many Muslims refuse to concede on issues of morality as Westerners have.

Once you concede on one issue you gradually concede to the left on all issues and this is exactly what has happened in the West.

I do not believe there is a middle ground. You either have moral standards or you dont and the left is constantly lowering the morals of society. Im not saying all Muslims are perfect but collectively they will push things to the right and are much more traditional minded than Westerners. Muslims still view women as ultimately the property of men, and while it is true that Muslims have enslaved all races, Arabs still do enslave Negroes to this day in Mauritania.

What it really comes down to though is enforcing morals. Westerners have conceeded on every issue and it is a total loss of morality. There is no middle ground and the West has conceeded everything to the left. Negroes on American money, half Negro Presidents, and the Canadian national anthem has been altered so as to become gender neutral. The only thing that could be next is a vegeterian transsexual transracial president.

Trump has some good ideas, think he misses the bigger picture though. Cant overlook his daughter's religious affiliation. I dont think he is a real opposition candidate so either way I expect this slide to the left to continue. Just like it is a conflict of left vs right it is East (Russia China Iran) vs West (USA England etc.).

Probably going to take a war, or a demographic shift from within through immigration to really change things.
 
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We have a media that is so empowered and so shameless in their bias that even after a blatant example of a Muslim terrorist joyously murdering the media's most beloved group (homos) while simultaneously talking, texting, and sending it out instantly on FB, they are talking 24/7 about "gun control". Think about that for a minute. We've had guns in this country since the 1700's and we didn't have these problems. What we have had was the change in immigration and naturalization back in 1965 and it's been a slam dunk for Democrats changing the demographics, Leftists/jews changing the culture slowly through media/tv and Marxist professors in academia since the 60's with an evil agenda. The student sponges have never recovered. What a macabre plan worked almost to perfection.
BS2 you correct on several points in your evaluation of the situation we find ourselves in. I have said on this site that the USA was put in the grave with the re-election of the Communist in Chief in 2012. I've said all voting can do since then is slow down how fast the remnants of America go down the drain. The Leftists have taken over almost every facet of society and people don't even realize they're living under false guilt and mind-control. People here have loved comfort instead of confronting sin and upholding Christian standards. I am unapologetically a Bible-believing Christian. I'm not a legalistic Christian by any means, but Christians for the most part have chunked holiness and scriptural New Testament standards out of the window. They've done a holy flop and become spiritual couch potatoes. They know their own lives are not holy so they let society's standards fall around them, with tragic and terrible results...
 

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boxing specialist, the problem is muslims in european countries or america don't push for the right at all, they are the most leftist people in those countries, in france they vote for the left at 90 percent + and every city with many muslims and blacks is ruled by communists as a result
in this orlando shooting , this terrorist was a registered democrat who worshipped blacks
 

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I was going to mention this as well. This event has now also caused extreme sympathy for the homosexual "community" as well as the complete normalization of that lifestyle. At this point, anyone with even tepid opposition to that lifestyle or any agenda associated with it will be labeled as an "extremist", pushing the Overton Window even further to the left. I'm sure this aspect of the event wasn't overlooked by the PTB.

I think this meme fits the subject of how the right is confused by what happened in Orlando.

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The agitating activists in the LGBTxyz community, like all other cultural Marxist causes, thrive on creating division and doubt. In Orlando people have been waiting in long lines to donate blood and coming in on their days off to cook food donated by local businesses. We see millions donated to the victims and almost universal support for them, though that doesn’t seem to make those more committed members(the activists) of the LGBT community happy. They want to use this as an opportunity to label ANYONE who has ever criticized them in the past (gay marriage-transgender bathrooms-wedding cakes & photographers) as being as guilty as the shooter.
This was an ATTACK on the UNITED STATES first. Though the LGBT community was specifically targeted by this terrorist, he scouted out Disney as well. He was motivated by the same thing as the 9/11 hijackers. Do people think that the 9/11 hijackers only real target was the businesses in the twin towers, the military in the pentagon and Government at the White House? Weren’t the 9/11 hijackers targeting the UNITED STATES? When it comes to this terrorist, the left wants to force the argument that the only people targeted were the LGBT community. That is a deliberate attempt to deflect and divert attention away from the underlying motive with a lie that focuses on a secondary motive that they can bash the opposition with--homophobia, which it seems is the greater "crime." In the disingenuous minds of these sociopaths; "homophobic" bakers are the moral equivalent of mass-murdering jihadists. One can only imagine how they would have spun the attack if it had been on Disney World. I guess it's that old maxim the POTUS ex-Chief-of-Staff made famous, can’t let a crisis go to waste.
 

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From Paul Craig Roberts' latest:

A few readers are still trying to help me to prove the official Orlando shooting story line. Unable to find videos of the massive presence of ambulances and Emergency Medical Technicians (EMT) that 50 dead people and 53 wounded people would require, readers are reduced to supplying me with telephone numbers of someone who might know something.

Amid conflicting reports of one shooter vs. several shooters, the proven presence of crisis actors on the scene, the substitution, as in Sandy Hook, of photos and names as proxies for bodies, the interviews by media of only one hospitalized shooting victim as proxy for the 52 others, internet reports that many of the alleged victims have no social media presence, etc. and so on, we are reduced to what strangers tell us on the telephone! This constitutes powerfu evidence that we cannot substantiate the story we are told.

As I said in the beginning, I do not know what happened or why. What I see in Orlando is the same pattern as in the other events: no bodies, questionable shootings, crisis actors, an official story set at the moment of the event’s announcement, no EMTs, conflicting testimony, no investigation by media, just endless repetition of a set story.

We know that governments lie in order to serve their agendas. To mention only a few recent proven government lies: the Gulf of Tonkin North Vietnamese attack on a US Navy ship, Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, Assad’s use of chemical weapons, Iranian nukes, Russian invasion of Ukraine. These lies are monstrous. They resulted in wars that killed thousands of US soldiers and killed, maimed, and displaced millions of Vietnamese and Muslims, some of whom are now overrunning Europe as refugees from Washington’s wars. Other of the government’s lies brought risk of war with more powerful militaries such as Russia’s and Iran’s.

It seems to me that a government that will lie on this scale will lie on smaller scales as well, such as Orlando, Boston, San Bernandino.

If I had to bet on what Orlando is about, I would place my bet on gun control. Sandy Hook also led to a big push for gun control. The victims being children was a plus for gun control, but apparently 20 was not a large enough number. The absence of wounded children did not raise any questions. Lanza’s kill ratio was 100 percent. The Orlando shooter’s ratio was just under 50 percent.

The Orlando shooting produced a reported 103 casualties. Moreover, the victims are not children in a school, but people having fun in a night club. In other words, everyone is threatened by guns in the hands of lone nuts, but not by guns in the hands of authorities—despite the fact that US police killed more Americans during 8 years of the Iraq war than the US lost soldiers in combat.

Some time ago I wrote that the Second Amendment was the only remaining provision in the Bill of Rights, which became part of the US Constitution in order to protect citizens from government. I made the point that the Second Amendment is inconsistent with a police state and that as
Americans, Congress, and the legal community have accepted the police state, the Second Amendment would have to go, along with habeas corpus, due process, privacy, and all the rest.

I also noted how strange it is that progressives and the left-wing are on the side of the police state and want to disarm American citizens. The way the issue is now positioned, the “moral” element in the population demand gun control and only the immoral “gun nut” portion want to allow crazy people to continue mass slaughter.

Some time ago I concluded that the American people are too gullible to be capable of preserving liberty. Nevertheless, I have continued to try to help people break out of the Matrix that controls their consciousness.

One of the most frustrating aspects of many Americans is their naive disbelief in conspiracy because “someone would talk.” It boggles the mind that anyone would think that people involved in a successful conspiracy to achieve their agenda would blow the whistle on their success.

Uninvolved people who might stumble upon the conspiracy know that it is their voice against the government’s and that credibility, career, job, and perhaps life itself is at stake. Just look at the fate of whistleblowers who disclose government crimes. Despite their legal protection under US federal law, they are mercilessly prosecuted. Just look at the invective thrown at people such as myself who try to raise the public’s consciousness.

Moreover, there are people who talk, such as 118 firemen, policemen, first responders, and WTC maintanence personnel who were in the towers and report hearing and experiencing massive explosions one after the other. We even have an organization, Firemen for 9/11 Truth:

The chairman, vice chairman, and legal counsel of the 9/11 Commission talked. They said that the government lied to the committee, withheld information from the committee, and set the committee up to fail.

We even have the owner of the World Trade Center stating on TV that the decison was made to pull WTC Building 7. That means the building was wired for controlled demolition.

None of this talk had any impact. Media ignored it or explained it away. My favorite example is the media explanation of Silverstein’s statement on TV that the decision was made to pull the building. Media said that what Silverstein said or meant to say was that “the decision was made to pull the firemen out of the building.” There was no fire of any significance in the building, and there were no firemen in the building to be called out. Watching the building come down in a controlled demolition you do not see a building in flames.

full article: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/20/orlando-wrap-up-paul-craig-roberts/
 

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Although I think what happened on September 11, 2001 was very likely a Mossad false flag, I believe the Orlando massacre was just a crazy Muslim who wanted to kill homosexuals.

That being said, we should keep an open mind about Orlando, because the Cultural Marxist agenda (gun control) is definitely there.
 
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It will be amusing to see how Obama, Clinton and the left try to spin this. Obama would never in a million years call it Mooslim terrorism, because he refuses to acknowledge it exists. Clinton is not likely to call it that either. She will probably call it anti-gay hate crime. Trump you would think will call it Muslim terrorism. It's hard to see how this doesn't help Trump. He is the one who wants to stop Muslim immigration to the US. This incident shows that's the only sane approach. Obama, Clinton and the Democrat s want to bring in as many Mooslims as humanly possible.

The attacks on Trump in the media seem to be intensifying after this event. It seems the media is pulling out all the stops now in an attempt to attack Trump and blame him for everything happening. Some articles are saying that his polls are dropping in relation to The Witch (which I don't believe) http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/21/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-monmouth-poll.html?_r=0 Of course I wouldn't trust the NY Times as far as I could throw it, but nonetheless, these constant media attacks are done to influence the mind of the average clueless voter NOT to vote for Trump. One way or another, I think we're in for a hell of summer. I just hope some White lemmings cease to continue to be lemmings.
 

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The problem with PCR is he's correct on 911, but an idiot on the Orlando terrorism and who knows how much else. Does he need me, yes me to "telephone him" and give him the names of people I know of working at ORMC (Orlando) hospital who quite frankly are polically incorrect enough to the extent that I know they were actually PISSED OFF that there were so many HOMO VICTIMS BROUGHT IN TO ER to where it was described as "like a bloodbath" …
Hey PCR, WHY WERE THEY SO PISSED?? BECAUSE OF THE LIKELIHOOD THAT MANY OF THE VICTIMS COULD HAVE HAD AIDS, HIV, HEP B, HEP C, ETC ETC ETC.
He should stop being an idiot and truly investigate instead of going off the deep end.
Hey PCR, stop making your conspiracy theories invade every moment of any event that happens anywhere anytime. You ruin your credibility in the areas you are right on, i.e. 911.
 
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