mike hass is doomed :(

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40 times are overrated anyway. L drills, 3 cones and shuttles are more indicative of route running ability (cutback ability for RBs) which whites excel in. I mean obviously at some point it does matter; a 6 foot WR who runs a 4.8 40 yard is not going to be effective.

I recall my favourite NY Giants had a player named Brian Alford in the late 90's who ran a legitimate 4.3 40. However the guy ran horrible routes so they could only send him deep and when he proceeded to drop 3 passes right in his hands on the deep pattern over the course of two games the Giants cut him in the middle of the season.
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from Bears message boards, one of the members report on Bears TC:

"He's smooth running and makes almost every catch look completely effortless. There was one pass that he was totally blocked out on and wasn't even looking at the ball,in a split second he spun and had the ball.

Just a true football WR,with the best hands I've seen in many,many yrs."
 
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An excerpt from an article on the Bears:

Wide receiver Mike Hass could probably zip by fans on a golf cart and many would think he was a trainer or ball boy if he wasn't wearing his No. 83 jersey. But the boyish-looking winner of the 2005 Fred Biletnikoff Award out of Oregon has begun to make himself more recognizable early during drills because of his reliable hands. ...


Another race-bashing remark. I honestly don't know how guys like Mike Hass and Brock Forsey can take it. At least we know the good reviews on Hass continue. Unfortunately, I haven't been hearing much about Ball.
 

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An excerpt from an article on the Bears:

Wide receiver Mike Hass could probably zip by fans on a golf cart and many would think he was a trainer or ball boy if he wasn't wearing his No. 83 jersey. But the boyish-looking winner of the 2005 Fred Biletnikoff Award out of Oregon has begun to make himself more recognizable early during drills because of his reliable hands. ...


Another race-bashing remark. I honestly don't know how guys like Mike Hass and Brock Forsey can take it. At least we know the good reviews on Hass continue. Unfortunately, I haven't been hearing much about Ball.

Thats another phrase the media loves to use on white athletes who look like they could be the writer's college aged son. Funny how I've never heard a black player described as boyish looking and blends right in.
 

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It's deja vu all over again. "Hass has made the most catches of any wide receiver on the team throughout the first eight days of training camp. His dropped passes are rare, and his catches usually come in traffic." But it looks like he's going to be cut again.


Note the absurd remark about Hass not having "classic NFL size or speed." He's 6' 1" and 206 pounds, bigger than most receivers in the league:
Hass faces uphill battle to make Bears roster
<DIV =date>August 4, 2007
<DIV =byline>By Gene Chamberlain
BOURBONNAIS, Ill. -- Mike Hass hopes he can continue opening eyes around Bears training camp so something else will open -- a roster spot.


"I just go out here and do what I can every day and hopefully when the cuts come around they're like, 'We can't cut this guy, we like him too much,' " the former Oregon State player said.


Hass has made the most catches of any wide receiver on the team throughout the first eight days of training camp. His dropped passes are rare, and his catches usually come in traffic.


In Friday night's practice, he made four catches, including two of the standout variety. He has been getting more snaps the past three days because Muhsin Muhammad has missed time with an unspecified leg injury, including Friday night's practice.


"There are a lot of guys there, a lot of established guys who have game experience and have made plays so it's tough," Hass said. "Hopefully I can do well enough where they don't want to cut me because they see what type of player I am."


With Bernard Berrian, Muhsin Muhammad, Mark Bradley, Rashied Davis and Devin Hester ahead of him on the roster, the law of averages doesn't favor Hass making the team.


"It does become a numbers game," receivers coach Darryl Drake said. "He's auditioning for a job each and every day -- not only here but if something were to happen (in the NFL), somewhere else. That's the thing that you have to realize, that I think he realizes.


"Hopefully he'll continue to catch our eye here and we can find a way to keep him. You don't ever know what's going to happen during the course of a season, you don't ever know what's going to happen with this game of football."


He doesn't have the classic NFL size or speed, and is more of a possession type receiver.


This is his first Bears training camp, although he spent all of last season on their practice squad. The practice squad experience helped him in terms of practicing against NFL players every day, but he was running the opposition's plays each week.


"I was on the practice squad last season so you really don't get to learn much of the (Bears') offense, so I'm learning it and trying to make as many plays as I can when opportunities arrive."


If Hass can develop a knack for special teams coverage, he might stick.


"I know that's important for a guy who wants to be a fifth or sixth receiver," Hass said. "You have to be able to contribute in that area. I'm working hard to do that and then just doing what they ask me to do in there."


Hass won the Fred Biletnikoff Award at Oregon State and had a school record 220 catches, but the Saints cut him Sept. 3 after drafting him in the sixth round.


"New Orleans didn't play me all that much," he said. "They drafted me and they kind of hid me and wanted me to be on their practice squad, but I didn't want to be on a team that really didn't give me an opportunity to compete; that's all I can ask for, a guy in my position."


So the NFC championship win over New Orleans was sweeter for Hass.


"It was nice," he said. "It was nice to send them home and we go on to Miami."


http://www.post-trib.com/sports/497090,bearsnote.article
 
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you never hear of the best-performing player in training camp getting cut...that is...unless he's white. I don't understand why mark bradley and rashied davis get the automatic nods. What the hell has either of those guys done in the NFL?
 

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No question, and on top of that a Biletnikoff winner and one of the best big program college receivers ever. Hass was as outstanding at WR as Reggie Bush was at RB in the Pac 10 against the same competition. It's comparable to the way Heisman Trophy winner Eric Crouch was not allowed to play QB in the NFL while Michael Vick was the first overall pick and given a decade to succeed. Such blatant, sickening racism -- and we're called "racists" for pointing it out.
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Great post Don! I have been telling a lot of people that lately.
 

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I expect Ball to be signed to the practice squad. Ultimately it is the Bears loss if they cut Haas and Ball and it will come back to haunt them in the season. Berrian is the only legitimate reciever the Bears have. Muhammad is old and worn out and showed surprisingly bad hands over the past couple of years for a supposed possession reciever. Bradley is a chronic underachiever who has no guts and Devin Hester was pretty much forced into playing Wide Reciever even though he prefers defense, because the Bears got all dreamy eyed thinking he can be their Reggie Bush with his speed. Davis is a small guy who is not all that fast and doesn't run routes particularly well and was completely non existant at times last year. Teams were at times able to take Muhammad completely out of games last year, and during several games Berrian was all that Rex Grossman had to throw to. He has Greg Olsen this year, who looks to be a stud at TE, but you can't live by your tight end and one WR alone. Either Ball or Haas would give the Bears a good overlooked weapon for a few plays a game, but their skin color will probably prevent that from happening.
 

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Davis is a former AFL All-star. From the bears games I saw, the guy is pretty clutch. But he is in no way a game-breaker, and got REALLY limited upside.
 
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AFL all-star huh? I remember a certain white wide receiver named Troy Bergeron who was something of the sort. He dominated the AFL, but I don't hear him being referred to as a lock to make an NFL team at receiver. Oh wait, that's probably because he was cut, never given a shot, and is now back in the AFL! SUch bullsh*t I can't even take it.
 
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AFL all-star huh? I remember a certain white wide receiver named Troy Bergeron who was something of the sort. He dominated the AFL, but I don't hear him being referred to as a lock to make an NFL team at receiver. Oh wait, that's probably because he was cut, never given a shot, and is now back in the AFL! Such bullsh*t I can't even take it.
 

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Great post White athlete. I was thinking the same thing when I read that Rashied Davis came from the AFL. And now we have Lumsden dominating the CFL and Roger Robinson dominating NFL Europe last year at RB but I predict the same fate for them in the NFL as Burgeron.
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Just to update, Ball has a couple of really nice catches in the Bears pre-season game over the Texans. One was a really nice catch where he made one of the Texans backup defenders look rather foolish and showed some definite "quickness" and "hip swivelling" that he is not supposed to have as a stodgy slow old white reciever. He definitely looked like a man amongst boys on that play.Edited by: Bear Backer
 

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how you can be the top receiver in college and get cut is beyond me? even if what they say is true that he is too slow which he is really not, 4.6 is not too poor, he could be a decent 3rd receiver on some teams in the nfl.
 

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Don Wassall said:
Here's a Hass update.  His main competitor, Brandon Rideau, was cut yesterday, but we know how it works in the NFL. 


http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=27265

Interesting article. Lovie Smith couldn't even pronounce his name after a year on the practice squad.

This is what whites are going to experience when ethnic nepostism gets to the saturation point whether it be in sports, Academia(e.g. Indian Academics only hire other Indians in my experience). Scraps for whitey and he had better be grateful for that!!

Oh , BTW, if it weren't for whitey they all, and I mean ALL, would be in their rice paddy, squatting next to a hut or sacrificing their young to the Gods...Seems a bit harsh but some take things like electricity for granted(built upon physics, chemistry etc)Edited by: voice
 

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http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=3776

Hass' spot on Bears' 53-man roster well deserved
By Larry Mayer


LAKE FOREST, Ill. - Mike Hass' leaping touchdown catch in last Thursday's preseason finale was tremendous, but it wasn't much better than some of the grabs he made in training camp.

After spending all of last season on the Bears' practice squad, Hass entered camp determined to impress coaches and earn a spot on the 53-man roster. The 6-1, 206-pounder accomplished both objectives, catching virtually every pass thrown in his direction and even a few that weren't.


Mike Hass gets both feet in bounds and hangs onto the ball with a defender draped all over him for a 9-yard TD reception last Thursday night against the Cleveland Browns. (Photo by Bill Smith)
"I never doubted myself," Hass said. "Last year was a tough year just because I didn't get the opportunity to go out in the regular season games and play. But that just kind of added to the fire and I knew this was a big year where I had to make something happen. So every day I just tried to come out and prove myself."

Hass knows a thing or two about rising from obscurity. After walking on at Oregon State, he became the school's all-time leading receiver with 220 catches for 3,924 yards. As a senior in 2005, he won the Fred Biletnikoff Award as the nation's top receiver.

Hass entered the NFL in 2006 as a sixth-round draft pick with the Saints. But he was waived by New Orleans during final cuts and promptly joined the Bears' practice squad the following day.

While practicing with the Bears last season helped him, Hass credits the experience he gained in the offseason program with putting him in position to earn a spot on the final roster.

"The thing that really helped me was going through the OTAs and the minicamps and all those types of things where I could really get a [grasp] of the offense," Hass said. "Coming into training camp, I didn't have to learn as much. I could play more."

That familiarity helped Hass flourish in training camp while working with the No. 2 offense.

"You hear guys now and then say [someone is] a guy who's easy to throw to," said backup quarterback Brian Griese. "What that means is he's in the right place. He gives you an opportunity to throw him the ball in a safe way and you know he's going to be there and make the catch. Those things factor in as a quarterback. There are some guys you like to throw to and other guys who don't give you that comfort, but he does."

The Bears knew that Hass had great hands and was an excellent route runner. They also told him that those two qualities wouldn't be enough for him to earn a spot on the 53-man roster.

"We said, 'Mike, if you're going to make it, you're going to have to know every position. You're going to have to be a guy who can play inside, outside, X, Z; everything. If you can't do that, you're not going to have a shot,'" said offensive coordinator Ron Turner.

"We moved him around in camp and he did a great job. He's got a feel for the game, good toughness and he's very instinctive."

Hass took the challenge to heart and proved that he belongs in the NFL.

"I needed to do things to catch the coach's eye and I went out there every day focused and just did the things they asked me to do and did them to the best of my ability," Hass said. "It was fun, but it was stressful at the same time."

The stress reached its peak on Saturday when the Bears were making their final cuts. With his cell phone in his pocket, Hass did errands to try to keep his mind off the situation. When he hadn't received a call by the 3 p.m. deadline, he knew that he had made the team.

"I was real excited and a little bit relieved," he said. "I'm just excited about the opportunity to go out there and play."

While Hass is ecstatic about surviving final cuts, that doesn't mean he'll rest on his laurels.

"It's one of those things where the work just begins," he said. "You work hard to make the team and you've got to work just as hard if not harder to make an impact and help the team out."
 

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The Bears knew that Hass had great hands and was an excellent route runner. They also told him that those two qualities wouldn't be enough for him to earn a spot on the 53-man roster.

"We said, 'Mike, if you're going to make it, you're going to have to know every position. You're going to have to be a guy who can play inside, outside, X, Z; everything. If you can't do that, you're not going to have a shot,'" said offensive coordinator Ron Turner.

What else needs to be said about the caste system? Right there it is, straight from the horses mouth.
 
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The Bears knew that Hass had great hands and was an excellent route runner. They also told him that those two qualities wouldn't be enough for him to earn a spot on the 53-man roster.

"We said, 'Mike, if you're going to make it, you're going to have to know every position. You're going to have to be a guy who can play inside, outside, X, Z; everything. If you can't do that, you're not going to have a shot,'" said offensive coordinator Ron Turner.

What else needs to be said about the caste system? Right there it is, straight from the horses mouth.
That's just sickening. A black receiver doesn't even need to know 1 position properly...or be able to catch the ball. If he has 4.4 speed he's a Day 1 pick and dubbed the next big thing. But a college legend like Hass has to bend over backwards just to make the roster.

What a joke.
 
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voice said:
Oh , BTW, if it weren't for whitey they all, and I mean ALL, would be in their rice paddy, squatting next to a hut or sacrificing their young to the Gods...Seems a bit harsh but some take things like electricity for granted(built upon physics, chemistry etc)

What a stupid statement. This is why I hardly ever post anymore. This is also why anyone coming to this site will automatically brand it racist while ignoring the legitimate argument that a caste system exists.
 

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Sark6354201 said:
voice said:
Oh , BTW, if it weren't for whitey they all, and I mean ALL, would be in their rice paddy, squatting next to a hut or sacrificing their young to the Gods...Seems a bit harsh but some take things like electricity for granted(built upon physics, chemistry etc)

What a stupid statement. This is why I hardly ever post anymore. This is also why anyone coming to this site will automatically brand it racist while ignoring the legitimate argument that a caste system exists.

Not a stupid statement at all. Absolute truth by any objective measure. It's rude and crude and un-PC which will tend to drive away people that refuse to see the world as it really is.

Sorry you haven't been posting. I didn't notice.
 
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