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Here is a picture of Jordy's wife, Emily, and his infant son, Royal. After the Superbowl, Nelson was seen holding his son with his wife smiling by his side. Apparently, Nelson has known his wife since elementary school, they've been together since high school, they attended K-State together, etc.

Nelson's life story should be a nightmare for those members of the elite who dream in dysfunctional, sociopathic diversity"¦

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The "revered" Donald Driver plans to leave kicking and screaming:

Donald Driver still wants to play til age 40

Donald Driver confirmed Thursday that he has no intention of retiring any time soon.

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"I don't know why people have said I was going to retire," Driver said. "My goal has always been that I was going to play until I'm 40 ... I feel good. I feel like I haven't lost anything." Driver does keep himself in tip-top physical condition, but a string of leg injuries leave us highly skeptical that he hasn't lost a few steps. Driver turned 36 two weeks ago. It's time for Jordy Nelson's role to increase at his expense.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41650565/ns/sports-player_news/
 

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Yeah, what one feels and what is reality are two different concepts. Right now I feel great, but can I still run a sub 6 minute mile! I know I can't. Driver is a typical affelet who thinks he is as good as he once was. In other words delusional.

And why is Jordy increased playing time at his expense? Oh I know the reason why....something to do with affeletism.
 

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Will the revered one outlast Hines Ward and Derrick Mason?

Packers coach Mike McCarthy believes that Donald Driver "has got plenty left in his tank. Driver saved his roster spot with a productive postseason after a thoroughly unimpressive regular season. The 36-year-old slot receiver is due $5 million in 2011 salary and bonuses, and the Packers apparently plan to pay it.
 

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Not too worried bout Driver. He's had some good days as a Packer but I truly believe he will have trouble with injuries again next year and it will be time for him to step aside and make room for the young buck Jordy Nelson. Jordy and Jennings should be the starting wideouts with James Jones third and Donald Driver at the 4 WR spot.
 

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This looks promising. Jordy's racial apprenticeship may end in his fourth NFL season depending on how Driver is used:

The Packers did not tender WR James Jones, FB Korey Hall, and RB Brandon Jackson, making them unrestricted free agents. Jones was heavily criticized for two postseason drops, but he was the Super Bowl champs' third biggest threat for a big play on offense throughout last season, behind Aaron Rodgers and Greg Jennings. It's a big vote of confidence in Jordy Nelson, who previously did not have the pleasure of playing in all three-receiver sets. Per Pro Football Focus, Jones was still a top-ten NFL wideout in terms of both broken tackles and yards after catch per reception. Even if the publicized drops keep his market value down, we'd bet on Jones winning a starting job in another training camp, regardless of where he lands.
 

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James Jones is now saying that Packers did tender him.

EDIT: from rotoworld:

Coach Mike McCarthy said that the left knee injury Jordy Nelson suffered during the Super Bowl was worse than most people thought.
Nelson damaged the bursa sac in his knee and was affected during the Packers' final scoring drive. McCarthy says that Nelson couldn't push off and would have caught a second touchdown if healthy. The injury will heal on its own without surgery, so there are no concerns going forward. It simply makes Nelson's nine catches for 140 yards in the Super Bowl even more impressive. Edited by: backrow
 

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A couple promising blurbs currently on Weenieworld:

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel suggests James Jones lost the confidence of the Packers' coaching staff last season. Jones received his much anticipated chance for a major role when Donald Driver went down with an injury. He responded with a string of drops and a couple of disappearing acts while falling behind a more explosive Jordy Nelson in the pecking order. Jones wants an opportunity to start this offseason, and it doesn't sound like the Packers will stop him.


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The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel believes it will be an "upset" if Jordy Nelson doesn't see more targets than Donald Driver next season. Nelson's "arrow pointed upward" over the second-half of last season, and he averaged an impressive 75 yards per game from Week 15 through the Super Bowl. Nelson is entering a contract year, has already bypassed James Jones in the team's plans, and is carrying plenty of momentum with the confidence gained from his breakout performance in the Super Bowl. Chris Wesseling's favorite Dynasty "buy" at wide receiver last month, Nelson is emerging as a legit WR3 candidate for 2011.
 

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Don Wassall said:
ANelson is emerging as a legit WR3 candidate for 2011.
WR3. The only acceptable position for a white WR.
 

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FootballDad said:
Don Wassall said:
ANelson is emerging as a legit WR3 candidate for 2011.
WR3. The only acceptable position for a white WR.



That particular writer'sreferring toNelson being a WR3 in fantasy football if he becomes the Packers' second receiver in '11.
 

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I get it. But when camp comes around, I expect the pigeon-holing to begin, regardless of past performance. Now, if Nelson can manage to secure a "2" receiver slot, and you know he will perform in an elite fashion, it will be another big blow to the caste system. Oh, by the way Don, thanks for the quote from Israel Cohen in the Gerhart/Ingram thread, it's been a great weapon for me in the anti-DWF fight.
 

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FootballDad said:
I get it. But when camp comes around, I expect the pigeon-holing to begin, regardless of past performance. Now, if Nelson can manage to secure a "2" receiver slot, and you know he will perform in an elite fashion, it will be another big blow to the caste system. Oh, by the way Don, thanks for the quote from Israel Cohen in the Gerhart/Ingram thread, it's been a great weapon for me in the anti-DWF fight.


No question about that. This thread documents quite well how the media has stereotyped Jordy and promoted James Jones overNelson in the pecking orderand also incorrectly annointedJones the successor to Donald Driver.
 

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i must be dreaming, rotoworld called Jordy, hold on a sec, MORE EXPLOSIVE than JONES!

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel suggests James Jones lost the confidence of the Packers' coaching staff last season.
Jones received his much anticipated chance for a major role when Donald Driver went down with an injury. He responded with a string of drops and a couple of disappearing acts while falling behind a more explosive Jordy Nelson in the pecking order. Jones wants an opportunity to start this offseason, and it doesn't sound like the Packers will stop him from leaving.
 

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This would be nice. Maybe, just maybe, his racial apprenticeship is over. From Weenieworld:

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The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel believes Jordy Nelson "needs to be on the field on running and passing downs" in 2011.
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position in his sights" after a strong postseason run. Silverstein
further believes that Donald Driver "will have to give way" to Nelson --
and perhaps James Jones -- in playing time next season.
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The fact that there is any question whatsoever about Jordy starting at this point is indicative of just how absurd the caste system is.
 

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I believe Jordy Nelson could be on the brink of joining the Ranks of the Elite WR's...Andre Johnson; Fitzgerald...let the dwf's put that in their pipe and smoke it! The 9 reception-140 yard performance in the Super Bowl will not be an anomaly if given the opportunity! He &amp; Aaron Rodgers are developing a big-time chemistry!





The world will just have to accept the fact a big, fast, explosive whiteWR will not be pigeon-holed into some slot...If the Packers do not want to start him...there are plenty of other teams in the NFLhe could start for....but I'd personally like to see him stay with Rodgers who is emerging as the Games Top QB!
 

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TwentyTwo said:
I believe Jordy Nelson could be on the brink of joining the Ranks of the Elite WR's...Andre Johnson; Fitzgerald...let the dwf's put that in their pipe and smoke it! The 9 reception-140 yard performance in the Super Bowl will not be an anomaly if given the opportunity! He &amp; Aaron Rodgers are developing a big-time chemistry!
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I sure hope you are right. Every time a white receiver gets an opportunity and he shines. Jordy has good short area quickness and is a vertical threat as well. Same goes for Austin Collie.
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from rotoworld:

Randall Cobb is a potential successor in the starting lineup to Donald Driver, according to the Press-Gazette.
Driver is 36 and looked slower than ever during last year's regular season. While Cobb will focus more on returns as a rookie, he shouldn't have to wait too long to get his chance as a receiver. Note that James Jones is an impending free agent. Cobb won't beat out Greg Jennings or Jordy Nelson, but has the upside to be a third receiver.
Source: Green Bay Press-Gazette
 

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I have seen Cobb play, there is no way he is going to win out anything but the last receiver spot, at least in his first year. I think he will be like Robert Meachem, just the mental aspect of the game. It took Meachem 4 years to learn the playbook. Cobb is at a disadvantage because of the lockout and the fact he has limited experience at wide receiver. At this point he is just a return man. I think Brett Swain would be a better option at receiver over him.

I am reading that he will eventually be Driver's replacement in a few years. Yeah Driver wasn't the biggest guy but that doesn't mean that Cobb at 5'11 188 is going to be his replacement. Hes not even close to being on that level. I hate these comparisons. Just like the Emmit Smith comparison for Ingram, just because you have a player with similar/size doesn't make them the same. Smith had much better lateral agility than Ingram. Why not Swain? hes close to Driver's size and good route runner, also from a lesser known school. My guess is Driver won't have a specific replacement, its going to be Jennings and Nelson, kind of like the Wayne/Harrison duo they had going on in Indy.


I liked THIS ending to rotoworld's quote
It implies that Nelson will at least be the number 2 receiver. Should be number 1 but it doesn't matter, as long as hes on the field for the majority of the snaps, on the outside. Rodgers is going to throw to the open man. I am predicting 1,056 yards for Nelson next year.

"Cobb won't beat out Greg Jennings or Jordy Nelson, but has the upside to be a third receiver."


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A great post by one of CFs best talent scouts snow! I'm predicting around the same yardage total for Jordy snow. Don't be surprised if Jennings totals go down a bit because Rodgers is great at going through his progressions and finding the OPEN man, which could be Jordy as often as Jennings!
 

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Green Bay Packers: Is It Time to Start Jordy Nelson over Donald Driver?



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On the field and through his community work, Donald Driver speaks volumes as a leader. The respect he has earned among his teammates and the love he has won from fans speak to Driver's positive and infectious personality. And his career statistics (No. 2 in Green Bay Packers history in receiving yards; No. 4 in TD receptions) speak for themselves.


But, on the cusp of his thirteenth NFL season, it's time to suggest the unspeakable: this is the year to take Donald Driver out of the starting lineup.


There's no doubt his numbers took a nosedive during the 2010 campaign. After a streak of six seasons in which he caught at least 70 balls for over 1,000 yards, Driver only snagged 51 passes for 565 yards last year.


Although this precipitous slide is cause for concern, one school of thought contends that Driverâ€"still a workout warrior who remains highly motivated by his pursuit of Green Bay's all-time receiving recordsâ€"can indeed bounce back with another sterling season. Driver, after all, has never been short on drive.


Unfortunately, the sobering fact is that once an elite wide receiver's numbers start to fall, they rarely perk back up. With a few superhuman exceptions (Jerry Rice chief among them), wide receivers' productivity levels show little "bounce back" once they fall off the 1,000-yard plateau.


With the help of Pro-Football-Reference.com, let's look at a few recent examples of receivers who had long careers in the NFL that came to rather abrupt ends.


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Marvin Harrison (Colts) Another slightly built receiver, Harrison had a string of eight consecutive 1,000-yard seasons from 1999 to 2006. In his injury-shortened 2007 season, he had 247 yards receiving. And then, after one more year in the NFL, Harrison retired.


Rod Smith (Broncos) From 1997-2005, Smith notched 1,000-yard campaigns in eight of those nine seasons. In 2006, his receiving yards fell to 512 yards. He retired after that season.


Tim Brown (Raiders) From 1993-2001, this famous iron man gained 1,000 yards receiving for nine consecutive seasons. He slipped below that mark in the 2002 campaign, and then, after two subsequent years of decline, retired.


Cris Carter (Vikings) From 1993-2000, Carter enjoyed a streak of eight consecutive 1,000-yard seasons. In 2001, his numbers dipped below that line to 871 yards. One year beyond that, Carter retired.


What's particularly telling is the age of these receivers when they fell below the 1,000-yard mark. In 2007, Harrison was 35. In 2006, Smith was 36. In 2002, Brown was 36. In 2001, Carter was 36.


Donald Driver turned 36 in February of this yearâ€"four days before the Super Bowl, a game he could not finish because of a high ankle sprain.


Aside from the fact that Driver is on the sharp downside of his career, his relegation to a supporting role is also needed to further develop younger players. Given the uncertainty of James Jones' future in Green Bay, the heir apparent is Jordy Nelson.


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It was Nelson, of course, who famously came on in relief after Driver's injury during Super Bowl XLV. In a coming-out party of sorts, Nelson racked up 9 catches for 140 yards and a touchdownâ€"numbers that would have been even higher without a handful of drops.


But even before the Big Game, Nelson was beginning to steal catches from Driver. Looking at the last two games of the regular season and the three postseason games leading up to the Super Bowl, Nelson amassed 18 receptions for 309 yards (17 yards/rec). In those same games, Driver nabbed 15 catches for 170 yards (11 yards/rec).


With the majority of the starts, Driver had more opportunities but Nelson made the most of his time on the field and produced at an impressive and efficient clip. In 2010, Nelson averaged almost 13 yards per reception, while Driver was a shade above 11 yards per catch.


According to Football Outsiders, Driver was targeted 84 times but snared only 51 passes, for a "catch percentage" of 61%. Nelson, meanwhile, was thrown to 64 times and turned 45 of those attempts into catches, good for 70 percent. (Please note that this does not distinguish between legitimate drops by the receiver and poor throws by the quarterback.)


The disparity between the players in 2010 is even more glaring under the light of Football Outsiders' homegrown "DVOA" (Defense-adjusted Value over Average) formulaâ€"a "smart" statistic to calculate a player's success in a given situation as compared to the league's average player in that same situation. It's a way of showing a player's "value" per play. Nelson scored a +9.8%, ranking an impressive 22nd in the league. Driver, meanwhile, was -8.7% and 68th in the NFL.


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Finally, the most revelatory numbers from 2010 are "yards after catch," a statistic in which Driver once was among the NFL's elite. According to Elias Sports Bureau, the elusive Driver placed 6th in the league in YAC in 2006, and 10th in 2007.


Last season, however, Driver compiled only 180 YAC on his 51 receptions (3.5 YAC on average)â€"a marked decline. In contrast, Jordy Nelson piled up 257 YAC on 45 receptions (5.7 YAC average) in 2010. These numbers seem to confirm what the eye tells the viewer: Nelson is ready to become a big-time player in the NFL.


The upshot? Based on historical career trajectory of comparable top-flight receivers and the emergence of Nelson as a more impactful player, the odds say that 2011 is the year Donald Driver takes a greatly diminished role in the Packers offense.


The odds say that time has caught up to Driver and that he would serve the Packers best as a revered mentor and a fourth/fifth receiving option (behind Greg Jennings, Jermichael Finley, Nelson, or even rookie Randall Cobb).


The odds say that explosive playsâ€"like last year's signature 61-yard TD romp against the 49ersâ€"will now be far and few between.


Then again, Driver beat the odds when he survived homelessness on the mean streets of Houston to become a decorated prep athlete. Driver beat the odds when he went from being an after-thought 213th pick in the 1999 Draft to a roster spot on the Green Bay Packers.


Driver beat the odds when he went from being a "track guy" with springs in his shoes to landing a sure place in the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame as one of the most productiveâ€"and most popularâ€"players in the franchise's 92-year history.


Maybe Driver will beat the odds again in 2011.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/738890-green-bay-packers-is-it-time-to-start-jordy-nelson-over-donald-driver
 

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Judging by the incredibly large font, it looks as though you would support such a move, Don.

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It is time to make the change and I'm glad writers are finally asking the question.
 

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Donald Driver is one of the most over-rated players in the NFL the past two seasons. I follow the Packers closely because they're my favorite team along with the Colts and Patriots, and while Driver has had an excellent career, he's slowed considerably and his once good hands have inexplicably turned to stone as well. He's "revered" in that way that older, successful black athletes are pandered to, but as this article states, Jordy Nelson is in his prime. A second round draft pick with Jordy's proven ability still not starting in his fourth season behind a clearly decrepit and injury prone 36 year old is unthinkable in a non-Caste situation.

Donald Driver Says Donald Driver Will Be Starting This Year
Green Bay Packers receiver Donald Driver has made a career out of proving people wrong, but you have to wonder how much longer that can go on.

Driver is coming off, statistically, his worst season since 2003 and his worst since he became a starter.

The 35-year-old caught 51 passes for 565 yards in 2010 and even though he pulled off “the old man’s still got it” play, very much looked like an afterthought in the Packers offense.

Both Jordy Nelson and James Jones recorded more yards (582 and 679, respectively) than Driver and Nelson had a break-out game in the Super Bowl, catching nine balls for 140 yards and a touchdown.

Although Jones is likely to depart in free agency, it seems time for Nelson, who’s entering his fourth NFL season, to push for the starting spot opposite Greg Jennings, if not take it from Driver outright.

That isn’t happening in the next two years if you ask Donald Driver, though.
“I know I can play at a high level,” said Driver. “I’m going back to have fun. I have two years left on my contract; I want to play those two years out – as a starter.”

“I think I’ve earned that respect to be the starter,” said Driver. “I earned my spot as a starter.”
Driver did earn his spot, but just because he holds most of the Packers receiving records and is close to breaking the yardage record, doesn’t mean he gets to keep his starting spot as long as he wants.

There’s no doubt the guy can still play football, but he’s at the tail end of his career and very few receivers have put up big numbers after 35 — something we’ve detailed before.
Meanwhile, Nelson is entering his prime.

No one expects the Packers to hand Nelson a starting role, but the team would be foolish not to make a change if the youngster outplays the vet. That could happen this season.
Even if Nelson doesn’t become a starter, he will be on the field just as much and take away opportunities from Driver.

We’re not ready to count the old man out, but Driver will have to be on top of his game and employ his me-against-the-world attitude to keep his starting spot in 2011.

http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/07/21/donald-driver-says-donald-driver-will-be-starting-this-year/
 

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Lots of positive news concerning Jordy Nelson’s 2011 camp thus far. It seems his bursa-sac infection from the Superbowl is completely healed…

WR Jordy Nelson has been excellent all camp. In the red-zone one-on-one's, he destroyed Sam Shields on a pivot route for a TD and then ran a crisp route to leave CB Brandian Ross in the dust.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/127288158.html
 

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i'm liking what rotoworld has to say for once:

Jordy Nelson totaled 77 yards and a touchdown on six catches against the Saints in Thursday's season opener.

Nelson picked up where he left off in the Super Bowl, tying for the team lead with eight targets. He seemed to get open at will, burning Jabari Greer on a would-be touchdown only to miss out on a Aaron Rodgers over-throw. It could have been a three-score night, as Nelson was also tackled at the one-foot line on another play. Nelson is clearly ahead of James Jones -- and likely Donald Driver as well -- in the pecking order. There's breakout potential here.
 
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