English Premier League 2012-13

[Europe]

Sam Allardyce was asked if he was a foreigner where would he be managing and he said maybe a top 4 team in England or a team in Spain or Italy, which is probably true.

He said it is fashionable to hire foreigners now.

I would like to hear what he says about foreign players and if it it fashionable to bring in all the Africans and South Americans.

 

[TBProdigy]

Sam Allardyce was asked if he was a foreigner where would he be managing and he said maybe a top 4 team in England or a team in Spain or Italy, which is probably true.

He said it is fashionable to hire foreigners now.

I would like to hear what he says about foreign players and if it it fashionable to bring in all the Africans and South Americans.

The same Sam Allardyce that ran the slave ship at Bolton a few years ago?

 

[ThePhilosopher]

The same Sam Allardyce that ran the slave ship at Bolton a few years ago?

:rofl:

Not to mention his obsession with Big,Tall,Physical,Unskilled players.We know what that means-African Imports.

 

[Rebajlo]

Matches played on the 3rd, 4th, and 5th of November.

Manchester United 2 Arsenal 1

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 mestizo
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 mestizo

ARSENAL:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 black, 1 mestizo
Finished: 7 Whites* (No Englishmen*), 2 blacks, 1 mestizo *Jack Wilshire sent off after 69'

Fulham 2 Everton 2

FULHAM:

Started: 10 Whites (No Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 10 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 Iranian

EVERTON:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian
Finished: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian

Norwich City 1 Stoke City 0

NORWICH:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

STOKE:

Started: 10 Whites (5 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks

Sunderland 0 Aston Villa 1

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Swansea City 1 Chelsea 1

SWANSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 3 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 3 blacks, 1 Asian, 1 Israeli

CHELSEA:

Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks

Tottenham Hotspur 0 Wigan Athletic 1

SPURS:

Started: 4 Whites (No Englishmen), 7 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab
Finished: Unchanged ratio

West Ham United 0 Manchester City 0

WEST HAM:

Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Maori, 1 Israeli
Finished: 7 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Maori, 1 Israeli

MAN. CITY:

Started: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 mestizo, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks

Queens Park Rangers 1 Reading 1

QPR:

Started: 4 Whites (No Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 3 Whites (No Englishmen), 7 blacks, 1 Arab

READING:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

Liverpool 1 Newcastle United 1

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 Turk
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
Finished: 5 Whites* (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab *Fabio Coloccini sent off after 84'

West Bromwich Albion 2 Southampton 0

WEST BROM:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew

SOUTHAMPTON:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Asian
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Asian

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 145 (65.909 %) - Englishmen: 43 (19.545 %)

Blacks: 57 (25.909 %)

Other non-Whites: 18 (8.181 %)

18 goals (Whites: 6; blacks: 8; Arabs: 2; quarter-Vietnamese: 1; 1 own goal scored by a black)

 

[Matra2]

WEST BROM:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew

Funny to see West Brom up near the top of the Premier League, level with mostly black (and Jewish supported) Tottenham, despite what must be a major difference in the amount of money at each team's disposal.

 

[ThePhilosopher]

Funny to see West Brom up near the top of the Premier League, level with mostly black (and Jewish supported) Tottenham, despite what must be a major difference in the amount of money at each team's disposal.

They're slowly making the hallowed transition from black to mixed race:

1)Aaron Lennon.

2)Kyle Walker.

3)Steven Caulker.

4)Tom Huddlestone.

5)Andros Townsend.

6)Kyle Naughton.

7)Jake Livermore.

And I'm sure that I'm still missing someone.Where exactly do all these mongrels come from?

 

[frederic38]

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 145 (65.909 %) - Englishmen: 43 (19.545 %)

Blacks: 57 (25.909 %)

Other non-Whites: 18 (8.181 %)

here they mention the number of english starters in that round: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...drop-in-the-premier-league-ocean-8301469.html

they say 62 "english" players started, so from rebajlo's stats, close to 70% of the english players are whites
that's not bad
in france white french players in ligue 1 are probably less than 10% of the "french" players

 

[Matra2]

When John Terry scored for Chelsea in the first half against Liverpool in his first game back after his racism suspension I thought it would be funny if Luis Suarez, formerly suspended for racism himself, also scored for Liverpool. Sure enough two goals scored - one for Terry one for Suarez. The anti-racists most be fuming. LOL

 

[frederic38]

i have been very disapointed at how manchester united took the lead in premiere league
chelsea drop points against liverpool, it's not a surprise because liverpool always does well against the big teams
but chelsea didn't get a liverpool player sent off in the beginning of the first half for no reason, like manchester united did when they faced liverpool
there has been so much controversy surrounding manchester united's matches
they lost to tottenham, they looked inferior to liverpool, and they benefited from the refereeing against chelsea
and they also use rooney as a defensive middlefielder, which is dumb and disapointing

 

[Europe]

i have been very disapointed at how manchester united took the lead in premiere league
chelsea drop points against liverpool, it's not a surprise because liverpool always does well against the big teams
but chelsea didn't get a liverpool player sent off in the beginning of the first half for no reason, like manchester united did when they faced liverpool
there has been so much controversy surrounding manchester united's matches
they lost to tottenham, they looked inferior to liverpool, and they benefited from the refereeing against chelsea
and they also use rooney as a defensive middlefielder, which is dumb and disapointing

I didn't notice them playing Rooney as a def mf. I think the would make a good mf, but not a def mf. It's a waste to have him a def mf.

 

[ThePhilosopher]

Rooney isn't exactly playing as Defensive Midfielder,but is surely playing deeper.

United have used two formations this season.In one formation,United utilize a "Diamond".In others they're using the more tried and tested 4-4-1-1,with Rooney playing off Van Persie.

But this was expected,since Van Persie is better in the box,while Rooney is more complete.And remember,Rooney played second fiddle to Ronaldo with some success.

 

[frederic38]

he was a defensive midlefielder against arsenal, and maybe against chelsea
the commentators said that ferguson was using him as a defensive midlefielder now, and that it was a waste of talent
they also said that he missed his penalty against arsenal because he was spending too much energy on defensive duty
the commentator was the former black defender marcel desailly

 

[Rebajlo]

Arsenal 3 Fulham 3

ARSENAL:

Started: 8 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (No Englishmen), 2 blacks

FULHAM:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 1 black, 1 Iranian
Finished: 11 Whites (1 Englishman)

Everton 2 Sunderland 1

EVERTON:

Started: 6 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks

Reading 0 Norwich City 0

READING:

Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

NORWICH:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks

Southampton 1 Swansea City 1

SOUTHAMPTON:

Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian

SWANSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 3 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman, 1 Welshman), 3 blacks, 1 Asian, 1 Israeli

Stoke City 1 Queens Park Rangers 0

STOKE:

Started: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 9 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks

QPR:

Started: 4 Whites (No Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 3 Whites (No Englishmen), 7 blacks, 1 Arab

Wigan Athletic 1 West Bromwich Albion 2

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab
Finished: 6 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab

WEST BROM:

Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Aston Villa 2 Manchester United 3

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 5 Whites (3 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 mestizo
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 mestizo

Manchester City 2 Tottenham Hotspur 1

MAN. CITY:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 mestizo, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 half-Asian

SPURS:

Started: 4 Whites (No Englishmen), 7 blacks
Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks

Newcastle United 0 West Ham United 1

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 quarter-Vietnamese

WEST HAM:

Started: 8 Whites (5 Englishmen), 1 black, 1 Maori, 1 Israeli
Finished: 7 Whites (5 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori

Chelsea 1 Liverpool 1

CHELSEA:

Started: 8 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 5 blacks

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Turk
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 142 (64.545 %) - Englishmen: 42 (19.09 %)

Blacks: 60 (27.272 %)

Other non-Whites:18 (8.181 %)

26 goals (Whites: 19; blacks: 4; Arabs: 1; 2 own goals scored by Whites)

 

[Rebajlo]

here they mention the number of english starters in that round: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...drop-in-the-premier-league-ocean-8301469.html

they say 62 "english" players started, so from rebajlo's stats, close to 70% of the english players are whites
that's not bad
in france white french players in ligue 1 are probably less than 10% of the "french" players

Frederic -

The number of "English" black starters varies. For example, during the last round (see my post immediately above) there were 22, or exactly 10% of all 220 starters.

I've listed them below (with used substitutes in italics). Mind You, this only includes Negroes currently eligible to represent England, which therefore excludes the likes of Reading's London-born Grenadian international Jason Roberts, Wigan's Buckinghamshire-born Barbadian international Emmerson Boyce, et cetera. I've also omitted Newcastle United's Shola Ameobi (who came on for the second half against the Hammers) as he has finally opted for Nigeria: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/10043556.Ameobi_s_Nigeria_delight/

ARSENAL: Theo Walcott, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

FULHAM: Kieran Richardson

SUNDERLAND: Danny Rose

READING: Garath McCleary

NORWICH: Bradley Johnson, Elliott Bennett

SOUTHAMPTON: Nathaniel Clyne, Jason Puncheon

SWANSEA: Wayne Routledge

QPR: Anton Ferdinand, Bobby Zamora

ASTON VILLA: Gabriel Agbonlahor, Fabian Delph

MAN. UNITED: Rio Ferdinand, Chris Smalling, Ashley Young

TOTTENHAM: Kyle Walker, Steven Caulker, Tom Huddlestone, Aaron Lennon, Jermaine Defoe, Kyle Naughton

NEWCASTLE: Danny Simpson

CHELSEA: Ryan Bertrand, Daniel Sturridge

LIVERPOOL: Andre Wisdom, Glen Johnson, Raheem Sterling

 

[ThePhilosopher]

he was a defensive midlefielder against arsenal, and maybe against chelsea
the commentators said that ferguson was using him as a defensive midlefielder now, and that it was a waste of talent
they also said that he missed his penalty against arsenal because he was spending too much energy on defensive duty
the commentator was the former black defender marcel desailly

I get what you mean.True Rooney is playing a more 'box-to-box' kind of role.The freekick from which Mata scored against United was given away by Rooney,on the edge of his own penalty box.That alone indicates his position on the pitch.

And do not even get me started about the Black commentators,Desailly,Efin Ekoku(Whatever!).....
Blacks suck at commentary too!

 

[ThePhilosopher]

Well,here's the your typical anti-white "journalist" at work,getting us to worship a great black warrior.
The first comment tells it all though.:eyebrows:

 

[Matra2]

Interesting article testing Michael Owen's theory that Latin players dive more than English players:

http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpr...america-italy-and-spain-testing-michael-owen/

Doesn't real prove anything though as attacking players (lots of Latins) are more likely to be fouled than defenders (more English I presume) and, of course, sometimes the free kicks given for tackles on Latin players are for genuine fouls, not just dives.

BTW I find it ironic that Michael Owen of all English players is talking about other nationalities being prone to diving. Owen, whom I consider to have been a great player, was, nevertheless, a well known diver throughout his career.

 

[frederic38]

Interesting article testing Michael Owen's theory that Latin players dive more than English players:

http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpr...america-italy-and-spain-testing-michael-owen/

Doesn't real prove anything though as attacking players (lots of Latins) are more likely to be fouled than defenders (more English I presume) and, of course, sometimes the free kicks given for tackles on Latin players are for genuine fouls, not just dives.

BTW I find it ironic that Michael Owen of all English players is talking about other nationalities being prone to diving. Owen, whom I consider to have been a great player, was, nevertheless, a well known diver throughout his career.

france is a latin country in soccer
i admit that i don't get the difference between a legit foul and a "dive" (diving when the defender commits a foul, even if he doesn't touch you)
for example torres' dive against manchester, when he got a second yellow card

 

[TBProdigy]

france is a latin country in soccer
i admit that i don't get the difference between a legit foul and a "dive" (diving when the defender commits a foul, even if he doesn't touch you)
for example torres' dive against manchester, when he got a second yellow card

Not clear on what you are saying but from what I gather.

You are saying that if there is contact the player has the right to go down unaided? I disagree, It's embarassing for the sport and would encourage simulation actually becoming a fundamental skill in the game of football


[video=youtube;l3tagTCJi38]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3tagTCJi38[/video]

If that was true videos like this would actually be for real

 

[frederic38]

Not clear on what you are saying but from what I gather.

You are saying that if there is contact the player has the right to go down unaided? I disagree, It's embarassing for the sport and would encourage simulation actually becoming a fundamental skill in the game of football


[video=youtube;l3tagTCJi38]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3tagTCJi38[/video]

If that was true videos like this would actually be for real

acyually i'm saying that for me a player can anticipate the contact with the other player and dive even when the defender didn't touch him (but whithout the dive the defender would have touched the striker)
it's hard to explain, sorry if it's unclear

but i hate when a player acts like he's injuried to lose time, this for me is different, i hate it

 

[Rebajlo]

Arsenal 5 Tottenham Hotspur 2

ARSENAL:

Started: 9 Whites (1 Englishman), 2 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (No Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 mestizo

SPURS:

Started: 3 Whites (No Englishmen), 8 blacks
Finished: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks* *Emmanuel Adebayor sent off after 17'

Liverpool 3 Wigan Athletic 0

LIVERPOOL:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks
Finished: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 3 blacks

WIGAN:

Started: 6 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab
Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 3 blacks, 1 black-Amerindian, 1 Arab, 1 Asian

Manchester City 5 Aston Villa 0

MAN. CITY:

Started: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo, 1 half-Asian
Finished: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo

VILLA:

Started: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks

Newcastle United 1 Swansea City 2

NEWCASTLE:

Started: 5 Whites (2 Englishmen), 5 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab

SWANSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 3 blacks, 1 Israeli
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen, 1 Welshman), 4 blacks

Queens Park Rangers 1 Southampton 3

QPR:

Started: 4 Whites (No Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 Arab
Finished: 5 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 mestizo

SOUTHAMPTON:

Started: 8 Whites (4 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Asian

Reading 2 Everton 1

READING:

Started: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (2 Englishmen), 4 blacks

EVERTON:

Started: 6 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Arab, 1 half-Turk, 1 small-part Indonesian
Finished: Unchanged ratio

West Bromwich Albion 2 Chelsea 1

WEST BROM:

Started: 8 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Argentine Jew
Finished: Unchanged ratio

CHELSEA:

Started: 7 Whites (1 Englishman), 4 blacks
Finished: Unchanged ratio

Norwich City 1 Manchester United 0

NORWICH:

Started: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks
Finished: 7 Whites (3 Englishmen), 4 blacks

MAN. UNITED:

Started: 4 Whites (1 Englishman), 6 blacks, 1 mestizo
Finished: 4 Whites (2 Englishmen), 6 blacks, 1 mestizo

Fulham 1 Sunderland 3

FULHAM:

Started: 11 Whites (1 Englishman)
Finished: 9 Whites* (1 Englishman), 1 black *Brede Hangeland sent off after 30'

SUNDERLAND:

Started: 9 Whites (3 Englishmen), 2 blacks
Finished: 9 Whites (2 Englishmen), 2 blacks

The round shall be completed tonight with West Ham United vs Stoke City.

 

[devans]

I am so happy to see Queens Park Rangers languishing at the bottom of the English Premier league without a win all season.
The manager Mark Hughes (sacked from Manchester City for wasting millions on mediocre players) has brought in an influx of black "talent" that has taken them to the bottom of the league.
In his squad ...

Samba Diakite ....Mali
Armand Traore ...Black French
Anton Ferdinand ...Black English
Djibril Cisse ...BlackFrenchman
Adel Taarabt ...Algerian
Shaun Wright Phillips Black English
Nedum Onuoha ...Black English
Keiran Dyer ...Black English
Jose Bosingwa ...Black Portuguese
Fabio Da Silva ...Mixed race Brazillian
Hogan Ephrahim ...Black English
David Hoillett ...Black English
Bobby Zamora ...Black English
Stephane Mbia ...Camaroon

Most of these are regularly playing. I am not listing backups here.
They also have Korean Ji Sung Park (ex Manchester Utd)
He does regularly play a white goalkeeper however - who is usually a busy man!
The only White englishmen who play occasionally are Shaun Derry and Clint Hill. Neither are regulars and have only appeared 8 times between them all season!
Hughes was brought in last year when previous manager Neil Warnock was sacked for droppping to 4th from bottom after a poor run playing the top four teams in three weeks. He had brough QPR up from the lower divisions with a team packed with white talent, including an icelandic stricker (Helgusson) most of whom have been let go to make room for the real players. Great to see them at rock bottom.

 

[Rebajlo]

West Ham United 1 Stoke City 1

WEST HAM:

Started: 8 Whites (5 Englishmen), 2 blacks, 1 Maori
Finished: 7 Whites (5 Englishmen), 3 blacks, 1 Maori

STOKE:

Started: 10 Whites (4 Englishmen), 1 black
Finished: 8 Whites (3 Englishmen), 3 blacks

SUMMARY OF ROUND:

220 starters

Whites: 140 (63.636 %) - Englishmen: 40 (18.181 %)

Blacks: 65 (29.545 %) - "English" blacks: 22 (10 %)

Other non-Whites: 15 (6.818 %)

35 goals (Whites: 21; blacks: 10; mestizos: 2; half-Asians: 1; 1 own goal scored by a black)

 

[frederic38]

I am so happy to see Queens Park Rangers languishing at the bottom of the English Premier league without a win all season.
The manager Mark Hughes (sacked from Manchester City for wasting millions on mediocre players) has brought in an influx of black "talent" that has taken them to the bottom of the league.
In his squad ...

Samba Diakite ....Mali
Armand Traore ...Black French
Anton Ferdinand ...Black English
Djibril Cisse ...BlackFrenchman
Adel Taarabt ...Algerian
Shaun Wright Phillips Black English
Nedum Onuoha ...Black English
Keiran Dyer ...Black English
Jose Bosingwa ...Black Portuguese
Fabio Da Silva ...Mixed race Brazillian
Hogan Ephrahim ...Black English
David Hoillett ...Black English
Bobby Zamora ...Black English
Stephane Mbia ...Camaroon

Most of these are regularly playing. I am not listing backups here.
They also have Korean Ji Sung Park (ex Manchester Utd)
He does regularly play a white goalkeeper however - who is usually a busy man!
The only White englishmen who play occasionally are Shaun Derry and Clint Hill. Neither are regulars and have only appeared 8 times between them all season!
Hughes was brought in last year when previous manager Neil Warnock was sacked for droppping to 4th from bottom after a poor run playing the top four teams in three weeks. He had brough QPR up from the lower divisions with a team packed with white talent, including an icelandic stricker (Helgusson) most of whom have been let go to make room for the real players. Great to see them at rock bottom.

yes, it's one of the good things of the season
i was disapointed to see them survive last year (they managed to avoid relegation in the last match)
this year hopefully they won't escape relegation

regarding the players you listed, hoilett is canadian, not english i think
which is funny because there are no good canadian players (the latest one i can remember was radzinsky, who played in belgium)

and taarabit is moroccan, not algerian, but actually he's french, like most of the non-english players you listed (diakité, traoré, cissé, taarabit, and mbia)

you can also add the brazilian twin brother who played for manchester united, he was titular on the only occasion where i watched QPR

everybody say that this squad is full of very talented players, for example:

Looking at QPR’s squad list, they are brimming with talent, especially in an attacking sense, and it is atrocious that they are where they are in the league.

http://www.footballtransfertavern.c...e-man-to-save-qprs-season#bEFSzXGIyPhKImOr.99

but looking at their squad, all i see is overrated black clowns, overrated asian and arab token players (to make the club popular in the arab world and in asia)
except, like you said, the goalkeepers, a white defender i think, andrew johnson, and granero

 

[Europe]

"which is funny because there are no good canadian players (the latest one i can remember was radzinsky, who played in belgium)"

Owen Hargreaves has to be the best Canadian player. He played fro England, but was born in Canada. He has to be at least one of the all time best Canadians.