Early Look at the "deep" 2013 Draft

[Freethinker]

File this one under the absurd category. From rotoworld:

Scouts Inc.'s Todd McShay lists Rutgers' Jawan Jamison as his fifth overall RB.

Jamison hasn't received much attention through the pre-draft process after leaving school following his redshirt sophomore season. He is a compact runner with some nice cuts at the second level, but we question his overall athleticism to match up with his running style.

For those who've never heard of this "talent" or forgot him from his playing days, he's one of the supa-affletes that forced Jersey Joe Martinek from RB to FB for his senior year. Of course the maniacal Greg "The Gap-toothed Wigger" Schiano didn't need much motivation or reason to render his most talented runner an afterthought. Jamison rewarded his coach's faith in him but running for 897 yards but at a paltry 3.9 yards a carry. Last year he "broke out" by averaging 4.2 yards per carry which is clearly good enough to be the 5th best RB on Mc(G)ay's board. Also, this "physical specimen" is 5'-8" and 200 pounds. With skills and size like this, no wonder that honkey Martinek couldn't compete.

Seriously, how is this turd a highly regarded prospect while Joe Martinek is unemployed from football and Rex Burkhead is a late round / UDFA talent?

 

[celticdb15]

Jamison's a midget with average speed, so in that case the NFL will love him!!

 

[PHillisFan]

Prayers have been answered. There's no way kc selects smiff at 1 after having signed Alex Smith and Chase Daniel to back up. I have to say i'm a little dissapointed that Ricky Stanzi didn't get a chance to compete for the backup position or at least it doesn't appear that way with the contract daniel was given. In any case, Kc made the right move passing up on Smiff. It's just a shame some team out there is going to waste the next 3 years on geno smiff. The black quarterback hype machine will strike and spit out another failure.

 

[dwid]

Prayers have been answered. There's no way kc selects smiff at 1 after having signed Alex Smith and Chase Daniel to back up. I have to say i'm a little dissapointed that Ricky Stanzi didn't get a chance to compete for the backup position or at least it doesn't appear that way with the contract daniel was given. In any case, Kc made the right move passing up on Smiff. It's just a shame some team out there is going to waste the next 3 years on geno smiff. The black quarterback hype machine will strike and spit out another failure.

I think he had to sign Chase Daniel on top of giving up high picks for Alex Smith in order not to being forced into picking up Geno Smith. Now they are trying to get rid of sumo Brandon Albert so it looks like they might get a left tackle. I have been wanting Chase to get a shot though, he has looked good at times, and has developed in a similar system of what Reid has run in the past.

 

[Leonardfan]

It's hard to be really optimistic about the black quarterback situation but their does seem to be quite a bit of depth at the position in terms of white QBs.

Barkley should get a nice bump after his proday this upcoming week. Guys like Nassib and Glennon are also top notch QBs. Landry Jones, Tyler Wilson and Tyler Bray are also wild cards and should go pretty early as well.

EJ Manuel will bust for sure but all the experts and dwfs cite his "upside"....hmmm i wonder why??

 

[Quiet Speed]

There's maybe one or two points in this article that one could find fault with, but at the least the guy is trying.



Ryan Swope Would Give Patriots Versatile Receiver With Wes Welker-Like Skills, Toughness

by Luke Hughes on Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:04PM

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Wes Welker has been one of the most productive receivers in the NFL over the past few seasons, but the Patriots won’t be benefiting from his production anymore.


The addition of Danny Amendola helps recoup some that production, but thePatriots will still need to do some work in the draft to make up for the loss.


Amendola has a similar skill set to Welker, which made him such an intriguing add at the start of free agency, but his versatility on the outside means the Patriots could use another slot option. If that’s so, Texas A&M’s Ryan Swope is an interesting player.


Swope, who was often compared to Welker during his college career, is actually a much bigger and faster receiver than the former Patriots star. His production over the past three seasons with the Aggies also makes him stand out, as he became Texas A&M’s all-time receptions leader after his third 70-plus catch season in 2012.
It is unlikely that Swope would ever have five 100-catch seasons during his entire NFL career, never mind in a six-year span, but Swope does possess the same sort of toughness and durability that made Welker such a quality asset during the past half decade.


He isn’t a Welker clone by any standard, but Swope definitely has the potential to step in and help replace the All-Pro receiver
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Editor’s Note: NESN.com will evaluate and analyze one potential Patriots draft prospect every day from March 27 up until the start of the NFL Draft on April 25. Swope is the 12th player in that series.


Combine Measures:


Height/Weight: 6-foot, 205 pounds

40 Time: 4.34 seconds
Vertical Jump: 37 inches


Key Stats:
Swope was productive throughout his entire career with the Aggies, setting a school record with 252 receptions over the course of his four seasons. He also set Texas A&M records as a junior with 89 catches and 1,207 yards in 2011. His receptions totals are impressive, but Swope also was a great red zone target during his career in College Station, hauling in 24 scores and 19 over the past two seasons.


Potential Impact:
Swope appreciates the comparisons to Welker, but knows that he brings different skills than the now jettisoned Patriots great. The 22-year-old is three inches taller than the 5-foot-9 Welker and he runs a heckuva lot faster, too. His versatility to play both in the slot and on the outside also adds intrigue.


Likelihood He’s Around at No. 29:
Swope is not a first-round prospect, although his workout at the combine did boost his draft stock significantly. He will be there at the end of the first round and maybe even at No. 59 in the second round, if no one reaches too high for him.


Game Tape breakdown:


Strengths: Swope can play as both a possession receiver in the slot and a speedster on the outside. He’s a very reliable receiver and has a wide catch radius that allows him to make plays others wouldn’t. He’s also a great route runner and very shifty, which often creates space and passing lanes. He exerts a lot of effort as a blocker and sticks with his man until the whistle. He plays with a lot of passion and energy, which his teammates feed off of.


Weaknesses: He doesn’t possess elite athleticism and fails to elude speedy defenders at times. He struggles to break press coverage at the line of scrimmage due to a lack of strength. He also lets his passion for the game get the best of him on occasion.

 

[Shadowlight]

Zach Rogers

Looks like the Tenn speedster will get drafted in the middle rounds (3-4). Because of his size he will be a slot receiver but he has deep speed so he may turn out to be really exciting. Tenn had a lot of good receivers so he often got lost in the mix but he ran right by heralded Arkansas corners last year. One of the fastest receivers in the draft.

 

[Shadowlight]

Josh Lenz

Iowa State receiver as reported ran a blistering 4.36 40 on pro day. Along with Swope and Rogers we have three legitimate wide receiver speedsters in the upcoming draft. Lenz always looked smooth to me and I haven't heard about his draft status but I hope he gets drafted in the middle rounds like Rogers.Of course Sam McGuffie is another burner but I figure he will be used primarily as a return man if and we hope he gets drafted.

 

[Don Wassall]

The National Football Post site certainly doesn't shy away from being different. Number one on its "top 200" list is Ryan Nassib. Bjoern Werner is 4th. Joeckel is 12th, and Lane Johnson is all the way down at 26th. Curious, I scrolled down to see where they placed Ryan Swope. Found him -- at 147th (5th round draft pick), and listed with a 4.55 40 time!?! uke:

I guess White football players shouldn't even bother with running the 40, as the "experts" arbitrarily assign whatever time they want to them anyway.

And it should hardly be a surprise that Rex Burkhead didn't even crack the top 200.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-TOP-200-Version-100.html

 

[qj]

Watched him live last year on the Red Field against my beloved Griz. The Griz secondary simply could not cover him. He had them turned around, fumbling all over themselves. But alas, the E. Washington QB was not really that accurate or a good passer. In any case, the WR was simply awesome and really fun to watch. Hope he gets a shot at the next level. BTW, if you're ever in the area, Cheney is a great little town and a fun place to watch a football game. Fans are great and the red field is not so bad in person as opposed to watching on the boob tube.

WR Brandon Kaufman(redshirt junior) is a big time talent....would expect him to be selected by(at least) Round 4 in the 13' Draft...at his height can stretch the field vertically... Ex-college team-mate DB-Matt Johnson was taken in the 4th Round 2012 NFL Draft by the Cowboys...Kaufman had 9 receptions for 215 yards & 3 TD's in the FCS Semi-Final loss to Sam Houston St.

Eastern Washington's Kaufman to enter NFL draft

Eastern Washington's record-setting wide receiver Brandon Kaufman will forego his senior season and enter the 2013 NFL Draft.

Kaufman is a junior-eligible prospect after receiving a medical redshirt in 2011 because of a broken left hand. The FCS All-America signed with an agent on Sunday, the Big Sky Conference university announced Wednesday.

The 6-foot-5, 215-pound Kaufman came back this season to catch 1,850 receiving yards, a single-season record for the Football Championship Subdivision. He caught 93 passes and 16 touchdowns as the Eagles posted an 11-3 record and reached the national semifinals.

As a sophomore in 2010, he caught two touchdown passes in the second half when Eastern Washington rallied to beat Delaware in he FCS national championship game.

Kaufman caught 221 passes for 3,731 yards and 33 touchdowns in 42 career games.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/...ton-kaufman-to-enter-nfl-draft/#ixzz2HbGDqS5p

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[whiteathlete33]

This is amazing. Walterfootball admits that Ryan Swope destroyed the super affletic SEC teams and the best corner in the draft (Dee Millner) couldn't contain him. They say he surprised white his 40 time. We all know why that is. Yet, he's still considered only a "second day steal" and a slot receiver with potential on the outside.

Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M
The 6-foot-1, 206-pounder is a gamer. The past two seasons he was the best receiver at Texas A&M and a play-maker for Ryan Tannehill and Johnny Manziel. Swope replaced Jeff Fuller in 2011 as the Aggies No. 1 receiver and made a big impact. The junior produced some long touchdown receptions while totaling 89 receptions for 1,207 yards and 11 touchdowns.

The Aggies' offense changed in 2012 as Manziel ran with the ball more and spread it around to a variety of players. Still, Swope had massive games against Auburn (6-140), Mississippi State (9-121) and Alabama (11-111). The Crimson Tide defense, including the 2013 NFL Draft's top cornerback Dee Milliner, really struggled to defend him downfield. Swope finished his career with a good outing against Oklahoma (8-104). The senior totaled 72 receptions for 913 yards and eight touchdowns in 2012.

Swope shocked many when he blazed a 4.34-second time in the 40-yard dash at the Combine, but for the NFL, he looks like he could be a play-maker as a slot receiver as well as lining up on the outside. I think there is a serious chance that Swope could be a second-day steal.

 

[FootballDad]

Yet, he's still considered only a "second day steal" and a slot receiver with potential on the outside

Considering that the second day is for the 2nd and 3rd round of the draft (the first day is for the first round only), this is actually one of the more optimistic evaluations that I've seen. Better than those joke sites that have him going in the 5th round.

 

[Don Wassall]

Here's a positive appraisal of Rex Burkhead by Jeff Legwold of The Denver Post. Let's hope he's right:


Rex Burkhead Sure to Catch NFL's Eye as Both Runner and Receiver


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/c...-burkhead-sure-catch-nfls-eye-both?source=rss

 

[Riddlewire]

McGuffie ran a 4.28 40 at the Super Regional Combine last weekend.
Also jumped 41.5" vert and 11'2" broad jump.

Any negro with those numbers would be considered a top ten lock, since there are teams supposedly desperate for WR help.

 

[Don Wassall]

McGuffie ran a 4.28 40 at the Super Regional Combine last weekend.
Also jumped 41.5" vert and 11'2" broad jump.

Any negro with those numbers would be considered a top ten lock, since there are teams supposedly desperate for WR help.

Exactly right. I have yet to see a mock draft that has McGuffie anywhere in it.

 

[whiteathlete33]

McGuffie ran a 4.28 40 at the Super Regional Combine last weekend.
Also jumped 41.5" vert and 11'2" broad jump.

Any negro with those numbers would be considered a top ten lock, since there are teams supposedly desperate for WR help.

Those numbers would put him in second place for 40 yard dash time, second place for vertical jump, and third place for broad jump off participants at the Combine at all positions. The ugly creep from BYU had freak numbers for his position but very little on the field production yet he's a first round lock while McGuffie probably doesn't get drafted. Hmm dat upside!

 

[Freethinker]

Exactly right. I have yet to see a mock draft that has McGuffie anywhere in it.

I don't care what the losers who sit around mock drafting say. I think a smart, winning, White-friendly team will draft him on day 3. Perhaps New England. He certainly has more "upside" than any other prospect in the late rounds.

 

[Leonardfan]

John Boyett S Oregon had a private workout and ran 4.57 months after having surgery on both knees. If he had remained healthy I bet he would of been no less then a 2nd round pick. I think he had 25 or so reps of 225 at the combine.

http://napavalleyregister.com/sport...cle_845305b2-a22b-11e2-be80-0019bb2963f4.html

 

[Don Wassall]

Black skin privilege strikes again. Blacks don't even need to bother to get in good shape once they've been pegged as an early draft pick:


With Eddie Lacy, this performance may mean more than anything he does in shorts. But there was a lot of anticipation for the Alabama running back's pre-draft workout on Thursday. A hamstring injury sidelined him during the NFL scouting combine and Alabama's pro day. So this was essentially the first time teams have seen Lacy run and cut and move since he steamrolled through Notre Dame's defense.

The reviews from those in attendance aren't too inspiring.

Lacy ran the 40-yard dash in 4.57 and 4.60 seconds, according to NFL.com's Bucky Brooks. Check out Brooks' timeline on Twitter for more. Among other notes, he wrote that Lacy is "Very talented. Natural hands; great feet; balance and body control. Fluid changing directions and making hard cuts," but that he also struggled with stamina through the workout. Brooks added that "Scout and coaches left with questions about Lacy's work ethic and preparation habits. Some wondered why he wasn't ready for his big day."

That's not very flattering for someone who has been considered the No. 1 running back in this year's draft. Brooks still believes that Lacy will be drafted at the end of the first round.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/202556731.html

 

[dwid]

"struggled during the workout"
thats a nice spin on it, I read somewhere places that he couldn't finish the complete workout

Another Mark Ingram, maybe he can get fed the ball a ton and lead rookies in rushing like Richardson, with like 2 runs over 20 yards, only to average 3.6, which is what Hillis averaged when he ran on a nagging hamstring injury and dwfs said it was unacceptable. Knowshon Moreno also led rookies in rushing coming out, averaging under 4 ypc.

 

[Quiet Speed]

Conner Vernon gets to rub elbows with Wes Welker, Eric Decker, and the Mannings.


MANNINGS & CO.

Apr. 11, 2013 @ 10:30 PM
BY STEVE WISEMAN AND HAROLD GUTMANN sports@heraldsun.com;
DURHAM —

Two weeks remain until the NFL Draft, when decorated former Duke receiver Conner Vernon will learn where his professional football career will begin. On Thursday, Vernon completed a four-day crash course on what the practice experience will be like.

NFL quarterbacking brothers Peyton and Eli Manning came to Duke this week to get some extra off-season work in with a few of their receivers. That gave Vernon, who completed his Duke career as the ACC’s all-time leader in receptions and yardage, a chance to some work in with the Mannings as well as Denver receiver Wes Welker and Victor Cruz of the New York Giants.

He did his best to learn while not getting in their way. “I didn’t want to ask them too many questions because they were here to work,†Vernon said Thursday. “I didn’t want to be that guy who is asking too many questions, getting them off their game and being that nagging guy. I asked a few things here and there. But I really just watched them work.â€

The Mannings organized the workouts at Duke because, under the Collective Bargaining Agreement the NFL and its players signed last year, players aren’t allowed to work at team facilities with their coaches until April 15.

Peyton and Eli Manning both played for Duke coach David Cutcliffe in college. Cutcliffe was Tennessee’s offensive coordinator during Peyton Manning’s time with the Volunteers while Cutcliffe was the head coach at Mississippi for Eli Mannings’ career with the Rebels.

Peyton Manning, preparing for his second season with the Denver Broncos, was the first to arrive at Duke, coming in on Monday. That gave Vernon the chance to work solely with Peyton Manning and Cutcliffe for about 75 minutes. “It was definitely a lot of work,†Vernon said. “Peyton is that guy who is fun and games. But when it’s time to work, it’s time to work. That’s what we took to heart. It was great. I ran a couple of routes for him.â€

Last year, Manning came to Duke while recovering from a career-threatening neck injury that caused him to sit out the 2011 season with Indianapolis. He worked with Cutcliffe to regain his throwing form and get into playing shape.

At that time, Vernon was recovering from an ankle injury that nagged him in the final games of his 2011 junior season. Still, he was able to get some work in with Manning.

With the draft approaching, Manning is confident that Vernon can play in the NFL and help make some team’s offense better. “What an unbelievable career he’s had here,†Peyton Manning said. “It can be an anxious time for a player getting ready for pro football and the draft. You don’t know when it’s going to happen. Different people say different things. But the hay is in the barn for him. He’s done everything that you can possibly do. NFL teams are funny. You could have 30 teams not really like you, but one team likes you, and that’s all you need to know.â€

The 6-foot, 196-pound Vernon has been compared to Welker, who stands 5-9. Vernon only hopes he can produce in the NFL like Welker. Playing with the New England Patriots from 2007-12, Welker made five AFC Pro Bowl teams and led the NFL in receptions three times.

Last season, Welker had 118 catches for 1,354 yards and six touchdowns. He signed a two-year, $12 million contract with Denver as a free agent last month.
Vernon studied Welker closely over the last three days. “He’s a great receiver. You know why he’s been the most productive player in the NFL the last four years. He’s a great receiver. It was one of those things where I took mental notes from him and went from there.â€

The NFL Draft begins on April 25 and runs through April 27. Vernon is projected as anywhere from a fifth- to seventh-round selection.

His work this week at Duke only stands to help him with whatever team claims him.

source

 

[dwid]

What Vernon should learn the most from Welker is his attitude. Welker is a great athlete, but there are many Whites with the same skillset, and still plenty with a better talent level. What I really think separates Welker from the rest, is that when he plays, he thinks he is the best receiver in the NFL. After the great seasons he certainly has a case for that but he was like this from day one. He knows he is open on every single play and not afraid to tell his qb whether it be Brady or Cassel to throw the ball to him and hopefully that doesn't change with Manning, although I don't see why it would.

I think that is the problem with most of the talented White athletes we have now, lack of confidence, as we can see in the case of Jordan Kovaks. Thats what separates him from someone like Harrison Smith who went early in the draft and has been a great player. Its good to be humble to a certain degree, but you can tell by his demeanor that he knows he can play at a high level with the best of them when he is on the field.

Its happened to all of the positions, like runningback where Jacob Hester said he would play waterboy. Is that what you want from a powerback? He should have stated that he thinks he could be a feature back and produce at a high level, which is why I still have hope for Gerhart, he seems to be confident in his ability. It makes me worry for Hillis because it seems like he kind of lost that confidence after the whole second year with Cleveland and never gained it back, before that he seemed really confident in his abilities.

 

[white is right]

What Vernon should learn the most from Welker is his attitude. Welker is a great athlete, but there are many Whites with the same skillset, and still plenty with a better talent level. What I really think separates Welker from the rest, is that when he plays, he thinks he is the best receiver in the NFL. After the great seasons he certainly has a case for that but he was like this from day one. He knows he is open on every single play and not afraid to tell his qb whether it be Brady or Cassel to throw the ball to him and hopefully that doesn't change with Manning, although I don't see why it would.

I think that is the problem with most of the talented White athletes we have now, lack of confidence, as we can see in the case of Jordan Kovaks. Thats what separates him from someone like Harrison Smith who went early in the draft and has been a great player. Its good to be humble to a certain degree, but you can tell by his demeanor that he knows he can play at a high level with the best of them when he is on the field.

Its happened to all of the positions, like runningback where Jacob Hester said he would play waterboy. Is that what you want from a powerback? He should have stated that he thinks he could be a feature back and produce at a high level, which is why I still have hope for Gerhart, he seems to be confident in his ability. It makes me worry for Hillis because it seems like he kind of lost that confidence after the whole second year with Cleveland and never gained it back, before that he seemed really confident in his abilities.

I think the NFL should have a mentoring program similar to what they have (or had) for Black quaterbacks and front office personell. If there are virtually no White cornerbacks and marginally more tailbacks and wide receivers why not acknowledge it ? Of course we know it won't happen for obvious PC reasons.....

 

[Don Wassall]

Here's a nice little fairly aware discussion thread on Swope among some Lions fans. Read it and it's clear yet again that: 1. Caste Football has in some cases dramatically busted open the awareness of football fans when it comes to stereotyping White players, particularly receivers; and 2. the DWFs are well ahead of media reporters, analysts, and "gurus" on this, as the latter still routinely use the same time-honored racist and idiotic cliches such as comparing all White receivers to Wes Welker (after spending 15 years before that comparing all White receivers to Ricky Proehl).

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=93&f=1801&t=11463868

 

[sport historian]

Here's a nice little fairly aware discussion thread on Swope among some Lions fans. Read it and it's clear yet again that: 1. Caste Football has in some cases dramatically busted open the awareness of football fans when it comes to stereotyping White players, particularly receivers; and 2. the DWFs are well ahead of media reporters, analysts, and "gurus" on this, as the latter still routinely use the same time-honored racist and idiotic cliches such as comparing all White receivers to Wes Welker (after spending 15 years before that comparing all White receivers to Ricky Proehl).

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=93&f=1801&t=11463868

Yep, and for a long time they compared any white WR with any speed to Lance Alworth. When Kirk Gibson played football (1978) at Michigan State, draft guru Joel Buschbaum called Gibson a "big Lance Alworth."

In his rookie year (1981), Chris Collinsworth was compared to Alworth. Chris even complained that this was only because he was white and Alworth was the only white WR reporters could think of.

Welker has indeed become the paradigm for white WRs, even those of the past. Today's DWFs think Lance Alworth was the Welker of his time. I found a youtube on Crazy Legs Hirsch and a DWF commented, "Wes Welker."