Early look at 2011 NFL draft
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Thrashen
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Here is a collection (obtained from various draft websites) of archetypal "for whites only" CasteSpeak utilized in describing Oregon's electrifying WR, Jeff Maehl"¦
SportingNews.com - "Maehl's thin frame raises durability concerns, but he showed he has what it takes to play in the NFL. He is a deceptively good athlete and was consistently able to run sharp, precise routes."Â
DraftAce.com â€" "Oregon's Jeff Maehl and Ohio State's Dane Sanzenbacher aren't the biggest, fastest or strongest receivers in this year's class, but they both have excellent hands and are perfectly suited to play a slot receiver role. The NFL is a copycat league and more and more teams are searching for their version of Wes Welker."Â
Weei.com Draft Blog - "What he brings: He is also deceptively athletic and has a tremendous work ethic. There are some questions of his speed, which will have scouts watching closely at the combine."Â
SBNation.com â€" "Not a burner and will likely run in the high 4.6 range in the 40. Tremendous hands and is a prototypical move the chain WR."Â
DraftInsider.net â€" "Really more of a one speed receiver who lacks a second gear or burst, Maehl projects as a fifth receiver/special teams player at the next level.
NFLSoup.com â€" "He has the field speed and hands of an NFL slot receiver, with the ability to make big plays. He definitely has a place at the next level, but still doesn't quiet match up with many of the more explosive receivers ahead of him. Look for Maehl to be plucked by a team looking for a well-rounded receiver somewhere in the third or fourth round. NFL Player Comparison: Jordan Shipley."Â
*OK, I got it now. Maehl is a deceptively good athlete (and also "deceptively athletic"Â), a future slot receiver, a future move-the-chains receiver, has a tremendous work ethic, is well-rounded, he's just like Wes Welker, he's just like Jordan Shipley, etc. Any questions?Edited by: Thrashen
SportingNews.com - "Maehl's thin frame raises durability concerns, but he showed he has what it takes to play in the NFL. He is a deceptively good athlete and was consistently able to run sharp, precise routes."Â
DraftAce.com â€" "Oregon's Jeff Maehl and Ohio State's Dane Sanzenbacher aren't the biggest, fastest or strongest receivers in this year's class, but they both have excellent hands and are perfectly suited to play a slot receiver role. The NFL is a copycat league and more and more teams are searching for their version of Wes Welker."Â
Weei.com Draft Blog - "What he brings: He is also deceptively athletic and has a tremendous work ethic. There are some questions of his speed, which will have scouts watching closely at the combine."Â
SBNation.com â€" "Not a burner and will likely run in the high 4.6 range in the 40. Tremendous hands and is a prototypical move the chain WR."Â
DraftInsider.net â€" "Really more of a one speed receiver who lacks a second gear or burst, Maehl projects as a fifth receiver/special teams player at the next level.
NFLSoup.com â€" "He has the field speed and hands of an NFL slot receiver, with the ability to make big plays. He definitely has a place at the next level, but still doesn't quiet match up with many of the more explosive receivers ahead of him. Look for Maehl to be plucked by a team looking for a well-rounded receiver somewhere in the third or fourth round. NFL Player Comparison: Jordan Shipley."Â
*OK, I got it now. Maehl is a deceptively good athlete (and also "deceptively athletic"Â), a future slot receiver, a future move-the-chains receiver, has a tremendous work ethic, is well-rounded, he's just like Wes Welker, he's just like Jordan Shipley, etc. Any questions?Edited by: Thrashen
devans
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Wow - We Europeans must be the most deceptive race of people in the whole world!
At first glance there is something about us that looks slow and unathletic. Can't think what it is. Just wish I could put my finger on it. Then when we start playing or competing it turns out we are are lot faster, stronger, quicker, agile than we,
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At first glance there is something about us that looks slow and unathletic. Can't think what it is. Just wish I could put my finger on it. Then when we start playing or competing it turns out we are are lot faster, stronger, quicker, agile than we,
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chris371 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoM5_P-Pa0c&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32KAqii4lrk
Looks like an elite athlete to me! I've watched alot of Brooks Reed, he looks like an elite 3-4 passrushing OLB with the athletic ability to switch in as a run stuffing 3-4 ILB as well as put his hand down and get it done at DE in a 4-3 formation. I think the word for it is versatility although I don't know for sure, I don't usually hear white players referred to as such.
He was the fastest DE in terms of 10 and 20 yard split, which is more of an accurate measure for a pass rusher. He was 3rd among all linebackers in the 10.
Reed was faster at the ten yard mark than 16 of
the 34 running backs at the combine, and faster to the 20Yd mark than 14
of them. Reed was faster in the 40 than 7 of the RBs.
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Reed was faster at the ten yard mark than 16 of
the 34 running backs at the combine, and faster to the 20Yd mark than 14
of them. Reed was faster in the 40 than 7 of the RBs.
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Yeah and Brent Mushberger said Jeff Maehl had "sneaky speed"...and Urban Cryer said "he wasn't the best looking athlete; but good football player"...it's refreshing to come to a site where many others are aware of the sickening caste-speak; a few of my friends are aware too...but the general public seems clueless!
Brooks Reed came out shining IMO after the Combine; my question WHERE was college team-mateDE-Rickey Elmore?? Why was he NOT invited??He only led the PAC 10 in Sacks his Jr. & Sr. seasons??
What about DB's like Brian Lainhart? He could have been invited to Indy! Guess he will have to show them at Pro Day in a couple weeks...6'-0 211 (4.54) 17 career INT's
Some of these players should be in camps in July if there is a NFL season...
Chris Prosinski 6'-1 205 (4.54); Brett Greenwood; Andrew Preston 6'-1 215(4.58)/if healthy he lands a roster spot! Dom DiCicco(tweener LB?) 6'-3" 232(4.64); Andrew Rich(shoulder injury); Joel Schwenzfeier; Tommy Connors *sleeper;
Mike McElroy-Southern Illiniosgot a medical hardship; so he will be playing college ballin 2011
I'm guessing Tyler Sash goes in the 3rd round & Chris Conte 4th or 5th...Lainhart 6th or 7th??; DiCicco & Preston should also go in the late rounds.....
Brooks Reed came out shining IMO after the Combine; my question WHERE was college team-mateDE-Rickey Elmore?? Why was he NOT invited??He only led the PAC 10 in Sacks his Jr. & Sr. seasons??
What about DB's like Brian Lainhart? He could have been invited to Indy! Guess he will have to show them at Pro Day in a couple weeks...6'-0 211 (4.54) 17 career INT's
Some of these players should be in camps in July if there is a NFL season...
Chris Prosinski 6'-1 205 (4.54); Brett Greenwood; Andrew Preston 6'-1 215(4.58)/if healthy he lands a roster spot! Dom DiCicco(tweener LB?) 6'-3" 232(4.64); Andrew Rich(shoulder injury); Joel Schwenzfeier; Tommy Connors *sleeper;
Mike McElroy-Southern Illiniosgot a medical hardship; so he will be playing college ballin 2011
I'm guessing Tyler Sash goes in the 3rd round & Chris Conte 4th or 5th...Lainhart 6th or 7th??; DiCicco & Preston should also go in the late rounds.....
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I note that Greg McElroy scored 48 out of 50 on the Wonderlic test, and some "experts" say he might be too smart for the position!
I guess that sCam Newton must have bombed it, so they have to "dumb down" the criteria for the position so that blacks can play.
I hope the next casteclown who utters the phrase "nonstop motor" gets a raging case of projectile and uncontrollable diearrea, at the most critical times of their careers. Like broadcasting on live TV or on radio. The looks on their faces when the mud river rages would priceless.
More and more people I talk to when I show them the actual verbiage used in describing white players who actually test as more athletic than the majority of their black counterparts are shocked. They literally have had blinders on before, figuring the "experts" knew what they were talking about.<div>
</div><div>Sites like this help raise awareness but if we, as a collective, keep voicing these hilarious double-standards and literally open peoples' eyes to the racial caste system the table will eventually turn. The only thing the media hates worse than putting whites down is losing ratings.</div>
</div><div>Sites like this help raise awareness but if we, as a collective, keep voicing these hilarious double-standards and literally open peoples' eyes to the racial caste system the table will eventually turn. The only thing the media hates worse than putting whites down is losing ratings.</div>
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WR Greg Ellingson ran a 4.45 on his pro day,not bad for a 6 foot 4 200 pound reciever.Walter Football now have him ranked 38th at the position.Half the recievers ahead of him probably have stone hands.
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FootballDad said:I note that Greg McElroy scored 48 out of 50 on the Wonderlic test, and some "experts" say he might be too smart for the position! I guess that sCam Newton must have bombed it, so they have to "dumb down" the criteria for the position so that blacks can play.
Very impressive accomplishment from the Bama QB. I too saw the Yahoo article where they were saying he may be "too smart" for the NFL. If they mean his IQ is double that of the average afrolete...then that might well be the case.
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In the past functional illiterate players have made the NFL. I have recalled Negroidphiles like Billick dismiss the scores of running backs and corner backs. I have never heard of qb being too smart.
Wyoming ProDay Results
S Chris Prosinski had an excellent showing:
4.39
11.2 Broad
39.5Vertical
He has excellent size as well. It's very sad that these talented athletes from the Mountain West don't have an opportunity to show their capabilities at the combine. There have been some really good players coming out of this league. As typical they are forced to smaller conferences due to obvious biases in D1 College recruiting.
S Chris Prosinski had an excellent showing:
4.39
11.2 Broad
39.5Vertical
He has excellent size as well. It's very sad that these talented athletes from the Mountain West don't have an opportunity to show their capabilities at the combine. There have been some really good players coming out of this league. As typical they are forced to smaller conferences due to obvious biases in D1 College recruiting.
whiteathlete33
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His other 40 time was a 4.44. Still those numbers are insane especially the broad and vertical jump. Some team has to take notice of those times since they are elite.
Jimmy Chitwood
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coming out of high school, Prosinski was touted as the "next John Wendling." high praise indeed, as Wendling should have been a first-team All American for Wyoming. the free safety Prosinski (6-1, 210-pounds, 4.39 top 40 time, 39.5-inch vertical) has erily similar numbers to strong safetyWendling (6-1, 222-pounds, 4.38 top 40 time, 40.9-inch vertical), which should have the so-called "talent scouts" in the NFL absolutely drooling in the hopes of drafting such a physically impressive, incredibly productive playmaker ... however, i suspect that Prosinski will receive much the same treatment as his White Cowboy predecessor. by that, i mean if Prosinski gets a chance to actually see the field, it will be as a White Special Teams Demon ... just like Wendling, who was named as an alternate to the 2010 Pro Bowl as a Special Teamer. but "somehow"neither is viewed asactually having enoughtalent to be full-time contributors in the NFL.
of course, i could be simply off base. i mean, after all, any "gym rat hustle player" can do this.
of course, i could be simply off base. i mean, after all, any "gym rat hustle player" can do this.
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Prosinski should have gotten an invite. Woffords Tommy Irvin should have also. Both have the size and speed to play in the NFL. Brett Greenwood and Erik Stoll are two other guys I feel have the ability to play safety in the league. But whether they willeven make a team is another thing. If they are actuallyallowed some growing pains along the way would be a miracle. It seems white safeties are on an incredibly short leash..
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Tulane Offensive tackle Pete Hendrickson impressed at his pro day
Hendrickson (6-foot-7 3/8, 304 pounds) â€" He ran the 40-yard dash in 5.04 seconds with the wind and 5.14 against it, 4.62 in the short shuttle and 7.28 in the 3-cone drill. He alsohad a 32-inch vertical jump, a 9-4 broad jump and did 25 bench-press repetitions at 225 pounds.
*FIU's Greg Ellingson who has the guys at draftdaddy very high on him ran exceptionally well at his pro day. (They compared him to Kevin Walter)
http://news.fiu.edu/2011/03/football-players-impress-nfl-scouts-during-fiu-pro-day/Edited by: celticdb15
Hendrickson (6-foot-7 3/8, 304 pounds) â€" He ran the 40-yard dash in 5.04 seconds with the wind and 5.14 against it, 4.62 in the short shuttle and 7.28 in the 3-cone drill. He alsohad a 32-inch vertical jump, a 9-4 broad jump and did 25 bench-press repetitions at 225 pounds.
*FIU's Greg Ellingson who has the guys at draftdaddy very high on him ran exceptionally well at his pro day. (They compared him to Kevin Walter)
http://news.fiu.edu/2011/03/football-players-impress-nfl-scouts-during-fiu-pro-day/Edited by: celticdb15
This year's draft is stilla lotmore unsettled at this point than usual. Most years, the "draft experts," media "beat writers" and NFL personnel men have communicated (colluded?) sufficiently thatthe makeup of the first roundof mock drafts has become generally agreed upon within several spots. But the mocks I've seen so far to this point vary a lot.
If Newton goes very high, one or two White QBs go later than expected, and DT "projects" and sumo o-linemen again dominate the first three rounds, then we'll know it's business as usual. If not, it may be a slow recognition that rigid Caste principles may have to yield a bit to the formula that's working year in and year out for the Packers, Patriots and Colts. The character below is now saying Newton will go first overall, but I've seen otherspredict that he won'tgo until the second or even third round.
From Weenieworld: The Charlotte Observer's Darin Gantt predicts that Auburn QB Cam Newton will be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft. "I think they were so set on Andrew Luck coming out, they're not going to wait," explains Gantt. "They need a quarterback." Gantt is the most clued-in Panthers beat writer in the country, so it would be difficult to not trust him. He also believes coach Ron Rivera "is going (to Auburn's Pro Day) for a reason," and that's to meet with the Panthers' next franchise quarterback.
If Newton goes very high, one or two White QBs go later than expected, and DT "projects" and sumo o-linemen again dominate the first three rounds, then we'll know it's business as usual. If not, it may be a slow recognition that rigid Caste principles may have to yield a bit to the formula that's working year in and year out for the Packers, Patriots and Colts. The character below is now saying Newton will go first overall, but I've seen otherspredict that he won'tgo until the second or even third round.
From Weenieworld: The Charlotte Observer's Darin Gantt predicts that Auburn QB Cam Newton will be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft. "I think they were so set on Andrew Luck coming out, they're not going to wait," explains Gantt. "They need a quarterback." Gantt is the most clued-in Panthers beat writer in the country, so it would be difficult to not trust him. He also believes coach Ron Rivera "is going (to Auburn's Pro Day) for a reason," and that's to meet with the Panthers' next franchise quarterback.
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It's going to be business as usual (hard to avoid when so many blacks are invited to the combine), but likely with a few differences.
--Right now, it looks like black OL and DTs will largely be avoided by teams picking in the 1st Round.. but a run on them in the 2nd round can't be avoided IMO.
--In this Draft, there are several good White linemen and LBs, but what hurts us, I think, is that this isn't a "deep TE class".. frankly, for any race this year.
--Right now, it looks like black OL and DTs will largely be avoided by teams picking in the 1st Round.. but a run on them in the 2nd round can't be avoided IMO.
--In this Draft, there are several good White linemen and LBs, but what hurts us, I think, is that this isn't a "deep TE class".. frankly, for any race this year.
Another sign that at least a few scouts will speak their mind about potential black busts. And Razzano mentions Vernon Golston and not Mike Mamula or Brian Bosworth. The large number of black busts the pastdecade at every positionis hard to miss by anyone not completely blinded by Caste propaganda, which is why I'm hoping there may be at least a few surprises in this year's draft (but I won't get my hopes up much after 30 years of watching the Caste System at work). From Weenieworld:
Former NFL scout Dave Razzano believes Texas A&M OLB Von Miller has "got some Vernon Gholston in him." "In looking at Big-12 tape, he does not have a motor," said Razzano. "He doesn't chase hard. They run at him, and he doesn't fight off blockers. When he gets sacks, a lot of times he's not getting blocked. He's a one-move guy." Razzano is on his own here. Miller is widely hailed as the most explosive edge rusher in the draft, and he was the unanimous best player on the field at the Senior Bowl.
Former NFL scout Dave Razzano believes Texas A&M OLB Von Miller has "got some Vernon Gholston in him." "In looking at Big-12 tape, he does not have a motor," said Razzano. "He doesn't chase hard. They run at him, and he doesn't fight off blockers. When he gets sacks, a lot of times he's not getting blocked. He's a one-move guy." Razzano is on his own here. Miller is widely hailed as the most explosive edge rusher in the draft, and he was the unanimous best player on the field at the Senior Bowl.
whiteathlete33
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If the Panthers draft Scam Newton what happens to Clausen? It looks like he'll be forced to be a backup while the project gets 5 years to try and make something happen. Why give up on Clausen after only one season with a mediocre receiving corp?
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Absolutely whiteathlete33, if the Panthers draft Newton, I may consider moving. Yes , why give up on Clausen and they also drafted TonyPike form Cincinnatti. Carolina has alot more issues, than at QB. They could use about any position other than RB or LB.If Clausen doesn't work out, possibly draft another QB next year, possibly Luck. I think Clausen could work out though, if given enough time.
Just got through watching Jim Rome carve up Bomani Jones about Scam. Jones saying Newton is the only QB worth risking on No. 1, while JR says too many off field issues and can't hit wide open targets in passing drills. Thanks Jim!
Just got through watching Jim Rome carve up Bomani Jones about Scam. Jones saying Newton is the only QB worth risking on No. 1, while JR says too many off field issues and can't hit wide open targets in passing drills. Thanks Jim!
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Lol doesn't surprise me at all bout Bomani Jones supporting his dream athlete. ANd I too think Carolina would be making a colossal mistake if they take Newton number one overall. Carolina's whole team was garbage last year. Give Clausen a chance.
Here's a great link courtesy of draftdaddy!
Despite being labeled a high-motor overachiever by some guru's, Brook Reed's Combine numbers tell a vastly different story?
Here's a great link courtesy of draftdaddy!
Despite being labeled a high-motor overachiever by some guru's, Brook Reed's Combine numbers tell a vastly different story?
Nice to see DraftDaddy back withthose kinds ofarticles againalong with their understated but effectiveway of pointing out how"certain" college football players are falselystereotyped over and over.