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whiteathlete33 said:
Here is something I find shocking even for NFL standards.  Bucky Brooks has only two whites going in the first round of his mock draft.  Is this guy really this racist?  I know the first round won't be this bad.  http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d8166b4a7&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
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That looks like every dwf's fantasy draft. Its not with just the first round. Every "underrated sleeper" pick that dwfs have for the later rounds , are ALL THE SAME AFFLETES. There is never any mention of the underrated White players that are great but are going to go late because of being White. Its always the same list of affletes, I dont see how they are so underrated because every dwf seems to know about them and thinks they will do great in the NFL.
 
dwid said:
whiteathlete33 said:
Here is something I find shocking even for NFL standards. Bucky Brooks has only two whites going in the first round of his mock draft. Is this guy really this racist? I know the first round won't be this bad. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=0...ate=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
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That looks like every dwf's fantasy draft. Its not with just the first round. Every "underrated sleeper" pick that dwfs have for the later rounds , are ALL THE SAME AFFLETES. There is never any mention of the underrated White players that are great but are going to go late because of being White. Its always the same list of affletes, I dont see how they are so underrated because every dwf seems to know about them and thinks they will do great in the NFL.
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DWID, I think it shows, at the very least, how racist most blacks are in finding white talent.
 
I think he may be bitter and twisted due to him, being drafted in 2nd round by Buffalo as the new deep threat speedster to replace Don Beebe, and then being a complete flop. Never coming close to filling the void left by Beebe must haunt him to this day.
 
Database updated with pro days so far.
Was also thinking it'd be interesting to hear who you guys would take in a 7 round mock (obviously for whatever team you follow/like (don't everyone take he Packers!))
Was thinking for the Pats (yes i'm a Pats fan...):

1.22 : Brandon Graham/Sergio Kindle/Jared Odrick (meh)
2.12 (from JAX) : Sean Lee
2.15 (from TEN): Toby Gerhart
2.21 : CB (none stand out)
4.21 : Blair White
6.21 : Nate Byham
7.22 : Erik Lorig
7.24 (from PHI): Auston English


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Obviously this is a fairly caste feasible draft with Gerhart making it deep into the 2nd round along with Sean Lee and Blair White dropping to the 4th because obviously he can't play WR in the NFL. I'd like to see Belichick trade out of the 1st round again as there isn't the pass rushing talent worthy of a 1st round pick, at least at 22. If they dropped it for another 2nd and maybe a 3rd/4th I'd love them to take Tebow and A.J Edds.

I guess this is also kind of a best case mock, but lets see what you guys come up with!
 
I sure hope Toby goes late second round at the latest. We've seen talented white players like Luke Staley drop all the way to the 7th round. Staley was the best back that draft by far. That's not going to happen to Toby because he's healthy but in the caste NFL a drop to the third or fourth round is possible.
 
do we have to pick guys you didn't already pick? because after a few teams the list to choose from would get small. If all of your players were taken this is who I would get.

Saints
1st round 32 - Bryan Bulaga LT (Bushrod needed help all year and they refuse to play Zach Strief) It would free up a tight end like David Thomas from having to block constantly
2nd round 32- AJ Edds (To fill in Scott Fujita's role
3rd round 31- Riley Cooper (to replace Devery Henderon's inconsistency
4th round 32- Eric Olsen C (could also play guard, Nesbitt was released who backed up both spots is gone)
6th round 32- John Flecther( could play DE and DT)
7th round 32- Drew Berube (could also play LDE and DT (d coordinator likes smaller defensive tackles)

UDFA priority H-back William Rose (to fill in Heath Evans role when if he goes down)
UDFA Jake Sharp (to fill in Reggie Bush's role)
UDFA Matt O'Hanlon FS (Sharper won't be around for much longer)

Did want Gerhart for the Saints but they are looking for a hybrid FB/HB like Heath Evans and I wouldn't want them to try and put him in that role. Plus they use runningback by committee and are a passing team, so not sure how many touches Gerhart would get.

Heath Evans did get the ball quite a bit for a White fullback , but he did get injured last season and is 30+ years old. Willie Rose is the guy perfect for that job if Evans goes down again, he has the athleticism to play halfback, but has stated in interviews he likes blocking just as much as he likes having the ball in his hand.


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I had to do some research on Drew Berube. Way to dig deep to find talent DWID.
 
Hey dwid, no way Bulaga is going to be around when the Saints pick at number 32, he's one of the top 2 or 3 tackles in the draft, even according to the DWFs, so time to modify already!
 
There is talk about John Fletcher possibly moving to linebacker. I would like to see him stay at tackle because of the lack of whites at that position.
 
John Fletcher (like every other white player) is very underrated. He is a large reason why Wyoming won a bowl game this year. He played a major role on the defensive line that held Ryan Mathews out of the end zone at a critical juncture in the game.
 
"University of Kansas RB Jake Sharp boosted his draft stock during the school's pro day workout Wednesday. The diminutive (5-9 1/4, 194) runner, who wasn't at the NFL Scouting Combine, posted a 4.43 in the 40-yard dash and his 10-4 broad jump matched the best leap recorded by a running back in Indianapolis."

He also posted a 4.06 short shuttle, 6.84 three-cone drill, and 19 bench press reps.
Sharp Excites Scouts at Pro Day!


I also saw a report from KU Sports that said Sharp ran a 4.34! We'll have to wait and see his official time, but right now it looks like he boosted himself in my eyes to a 3rd/4th round guy from 4th/5th round guy!
 
Thanks for the update! Not seeing Jake at the NFL Combine was very disapointing...was really looking forward to seeing him in action; glad he impressed at Pro Day...really no suprise! This dude is fast...beat all of starting Cowboys CB Terence Newman's HS Track timesin Kansas...

He had better be selected at least by Round 5...he needs a fair chance...can only hope he stays healthy.. should land on the 53-man roster come opening day...

The caste puppets are scratching their heads with Sharp...no converting him to Fullback...they had better not put him in the slot like the Jets tried with Woodhead...
 
Great news about Jake Sharp. The only suprising thing I read was a 25 inch vertical. That seems almost impossible for an athlete that is as explosive as Jake is. It's probably more like 35 inch hops. What a couple of blazing 40 runs! Good luck Jake.
 
I'm going a bit far into the future with this question but does anyone know anything about Jared Crick. He's a white defensive tackle from Nebraska and is ranked very high(top DT if he comes out next year). He's a bright spot in the extremely black position as of late.
 
Good amount of pro day info to keep on top of. The nfl's site is updating pretty well:
NFL Pro Day Coverage
Actually has some info on Sharp! Who knew some of these guys could actually be allowed to get national exposure!
 
white lightning said:
Great news about Jake Sharp. The only suprising thing I read was a 25 inch vertical. That seems almost impossible for an athlete that is as explosive as Jake is. It's probably more like 35 inch hops. What a couple of blazing 40 runs! Good luck Jake.
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Wow! I'd (also) figure Jake to have a 35-40" vertical leap. At 6'8, I had a 33-34" vertical (circa HS, college). He still has great quicks, so hopefully he doesn't have to wait until the 6-7th rounds to be drafted.
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Sharp had a 35 inch vertical. Gil Brandt's blog had a typo. The Kansas papers are reporting Jake to have had the best vertical amongst Kansas players at his Pro Day. dwid read it was 35 inches on another source. Slowshon Moreno also didn't have a 25.5 inch vertical, he had a 35.5 inch vertical and has jumped over tacklers before. Jake Sharp blew Moreno away in every other speed drill though except his 3-cone- Moreno had the exact same 3-cone. Moreno had 6 more bench reps.
 
Nice find, celticdb15. I was watching NFL Network's "Paff to the Draff" a little bit ago and all they focused on were black guys, and every single one was described, without fail, as "athletic." The mantra just gets more and moreoverused over time. (Oh, and there was also the obligatory five minute puff piece on Myron Rolle and his older brother, who is his agent and is already fielding numerous interview requests and corporate endorsement prospects). Konz, languishing unknown at Kent State, looks to be more athletic than any of them.
 
Simply insane! A 46 inch VJ would tie the NFL combine record according to NFLdraftscout's records that go back to 1999. And a 4.38 40 and a 10'8" Broad Jump for someone his size is also absolutely ridiculous explosiveness. As I said, this guy and Cody Slate could be potential great H-Backs/ tailbacks (or TEs) in the NFL. Konz has played LB too. This guy is a truly versatile FREAK of nature! He's a Matt Jones type freak!
 
Absolutely incredible numbers for Konz!! It seems every year we see a white or two crack through the system with unbelievable numbers. If not for the caste system there would be many, many more.
 
whiteathlete33 said:
Absolutely incredible numbers for Konz!!  It seems every year we see a white or two crack through the system with unbelievable numbers.  If not for the caste system there would be many, many more.
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His bio says he played defense then switched to offense. I'd like to know more about him. He sounds like another sleeper steal like former Kent State players Edelman and Antonio Gates (who played basketball their instead of football and was actually my friends suite-mate freshman year of college). Those examples will hopefully help his draft stock. I also wonder if players with similar measurables were invited to the combine. Imagine if he and Sharp were invited; the "complexion" of the combine would have looked a lot different with them near the top of the speed, quickness and jumping drills.
 
Some idiots are projecting him to play linebacker in the NFL. He has the athletic ability to play running back but we all know how it goes.
 
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