This needs to be remembered today as the Zionists have been relentlessly pushing for war between Russia and NATO since the fall of the Soviet Union.
"Darkest Hour" - Hollywood's latest Winston Churchill propaganda
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This needs to be remembered today as the Zionists have been relentlessly pushing for war between Russia and NATO since the fall of the Soviet Union.
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Great post.Yeah, kind of like the way that all of you "Allied Apologists" haven't explained the following...
Dwight Eisenhower's Post-WWII Death Camps for German POW's:
This lovely vacation destination featured mass-torture, mass-starvation, brutal cold with no shelter whatsoever, drinking one's own urine to remain hydrated, daily savage beatings at the hands of the Americas guards, and, of course, millions of deaths and murders...
"For years we have blamed the 1.7 million missing German POW's on the Russians. Until now, no one dug too deeply ... Witnesses and survivors have been interviewed by the author; one Allied officer compared the American camps to Buchenwald."
"When they caught me throwing C- Rations over the fence, they threatened me with imprisonment. One Captain told me that he would shoot me if he saw me again tossing food to the Germans ... Some of the men were really only boys 13 years of age...Some of the prisoners were old men drafted by Hitler in his last ditch stand ... I understand that average weight of the prisoners at Andernach was 90 pounds...I have received threats ... Nevertheless, this...has liberated me, for I may now be heard when I relate the horrible atrocity I witnessed as a prison guard for one of 'Ike's death camps' along the Rhine."
"It’s incomprehensible to me how we could stand for many, many days without sitting, without lying down, just standing there, totally soaked. During the day we marched around, huddled together to try to warm each other a bit. The latrines were just logs flung over ditches next to the barbed wire fences. To sleep, all we could do was to dig out a hole in the ground with our hands, then cling together in the hole. . . . Because of illness, the men had to defecate on the ground. Soon, many of us were too weak to take off our trousers first. So our clothing was infected, and so was the mud where we had to walk and sit and lie down. There was no water at all at first, except the rain. . . . More than half the days we had no food at all. On the rest, we got a little K ration. I could see from the package that they were giving us one tenth of the rations that they issued to their own men. . . . I complained to the American camp commander that he was breaking the Geneva Convention, but he just said, “Forget the Convention. You haven’t any rights.” Within a few days, some of the men who had gone healthy into the camps were dead. I saw our men dragging many dead bodies to the gate of the camp, where they were thrown loose on top of each other onto trucks, which took them away."
Sounds nice, huh?
Mass Rape:
The brutal and depraved mass-rape committed against German women by U.S. soldiers (including black soldiers). These disgusting atrocities were even mentioned by the highly-respected W.L. Pierce in his novel "Hunter," where he heavily chastises white U.S. soldiers for allowing this to occur. Many German women were raped to death, others were raped so often that they became pregnant. Some quotes from those who lived through Allied horror for everyone to consider...
"The Russians were coming and going the whole time and they kept eyeing us greedily. The nights were dreadful because we were never safe for a moment. The women were raped, not once or twice but ten, twenty, thirty and a hundred times, and it was all the same to the Russians whether they raped mere children or old women. The youngest victim in the row houses where we lived was ten years of age and the oldest one was over seventy."
"These atrocities were not committed secretly or in hidden corners but in public, in churches, on the streets, and on the squares. . . . Mothers were raped in the presence of their children, girls were raped in front of their brothers."
"We had never seen anything like it—utterly, unbelievably monstrous! Naked, dead women lay in many of the rooms. Swastikas had been cut into their abdomens, in some the intestines bulged out, breasts were cut up, faces beaten to a pulp and swollen puffy. Others had been tied to the furniture by their hands and feet, and massacred. A broomstick protruded from the vagina of one, a besom from that of another. . . . The mothers had had to witness how their ten and twelve-year-old daughters were raped by some 20 men; the daughters in turn saw their mothers being raped, even their grandmothers. Women who tried to resist were brutally tortured to death. There was no mercy."
Of course, much of the most ghastly incidents of mass-rape came courtesy of the Soviet Union's Red Army, an ally of the U.S. and Britain. Slander Hitler and the Nazis all you want...but they didn't align themselves with these ultra-sadistic Bolshevik vermin. No, that was the Allies.
Mass Torture:
The Medieval-style mass-torture (including the all-too-common "testicle crushing") of German officers, POW's, and citizens by the U.S. and British...
According to Van Roden's book American Atrocities in Germany, out of 139 cases of treatment of alleged German “war criminals” that were investigated by the commission (who were put on trial by the American Military Tribunal in Dachau after World War II), 137 were tortured by having their testicles crushed. Other methods used by the American interrogators included brutal beatings, placing a hood over the prisoner and punching them in the face with brass knuckles, breaking jaws, knocking out teeth, starvation rations, and solitary confinement. The prisoners were then presented with prepared statements to sign, "confessing" to various crimes.
The respected Associated Press Photographer, Henry Griffin who had taken the pictures of corpses in Buchenwald and Dachau when visiting Allied POW camps agreed: “The only difference I can see between these men and those corpses is that here they are still breathing. According to revelations by members of the House of Commons, about 130,000 former German officers and men were held during the winter of 1945-46 in British camps in Belgium under conditions which British officers have described as ‘not much better than Belsen.”
Adding to international outrage, Cyril Connolly, one of England’s most acclaimed writers reported: “British guards imprisoned German troops and tortured them.” He described how “they were so possessed by propaganda about German ‘Huns’ that they obviously enjoyed demonstrating their atrocities to visiting journalists. A British reporter named Moorehead who was present at these ‘torture fests’ observed that ‘a young British medical officer and a captain of engineers managed the Bergen-Belsen camp. “The captain was in the best of moods,” he said. “When we approached the cells of gaoled guards, the sergeant lost his temper.” The captain explained. ‘This morning we had an interrogation. I’m afraid the prisoners don’t look exactly nice.’ The cells were opened for the visiting journalists. “The German prisoners lay there, crumpled, moaning, covered with gore. The man next to me made vain attempts to get to his feet and finally managed to stand up. He stood there trembling, and tried to stretch out his arms as if fending off blows. “Up!” yelled the sergeant. “Come off the wall.” “They pushed themselves off from the wall and stood there, swaying. In another cell the medical officer had just finished an interrogation. “Up.” yelled the officer. “Get up.” The man lay in his blood on the floor. He propped two arms on a chair and tried to pull himself up. A second demand and he succeeded in getting to his feet. He stretched his arms towards us. “Why don’t you kill me off?” he moaned. “The dirty bastard is jabbering this all morning.” the sergeant stated.
The respected Associated Press Photographer, Henry Griffin who had taken the pictures of corpses in Buchenwald and Dachau when visiting Allied POW camps agreed: “The only difference I can see between these men and those corpses is that here they are still breathing.”
It has been admitted and revealed (in the memoirs of the top British official, Colonel Alexander Scotland, who ran the program) that thousands of Germans were tortured by British Military Intelligence, under the direction of the Prisoner of War Interrogation Section (PWIS). This torture of German POWs occurred during the war to obtain military intelligence, and after the war was over, in order to obtain confessions for convictions of "war crimes". German POWs reported that the torture techniques included deprivation of sleep, starvation, systematic beatings, ripping hair from the scalp, menacing with red-hot pokers, and threatened use of electrical devices.
Don't get me started on the thousands of Germans who "confessed" to crimes they didn't commit as a result of ghastly torture at the Allied-run "Nuremberg Trials."
Mass Firebombing:
The mass napalm-firebombing of numerous German cities that flash-incinerated (or maimed and displaced) millions of German civilians courtesy of the British Royal Air Force. These bombings, which destroyed so many of the railways and roadways throughout Germany, are believed to be the primary reason that those held in concentration camps were starving to death...
I could go on and on (Allied sinking of rescue ships filled with fleeing German refugees, Allied mass-executions of German battalions that had fully surrendered, etc.), but why bother? I'm fully willing to admit that Germans committed great atrocities against the peoples of Europe, but the other side is never told, let alone held accountable for their war crimes.
For the German victims, there are no apologies, no shedding of tears, no mourning the millions of innocent dead, no museums, no memorials...no nothing. Just a shallow grave and decades of being infinitely cast as "evil incarnate" in hundreds of films, books, TV shows, documentaries, history books, and in popular culture in general. Even if Germany had emerged victorious, I would still wish that WWII had never happened at all and that European nations lived in peace with their own beautiful people and unique cultures. I've never heard a "Nazi-hater" say the same. Cradle-to-grave propaganda is a difficult master from which to free oneself.
Thanks for sharing...that's a "laugh," indeed. Since the glorious Allied victory, the resulting Western world is one that was rapidly transformed into a society that worships negro males (their supposed athletic ability, their forms of "music," even creating a lie about the size of their genitalia). A society that permits the abortions of millions of white children annually. A collection of nations that have allowed its military, its finances, its banking, its media, and its entertainment to be almost universally controlled by Jews. It permits the endless promotion of miscegenation and race-mixing at every turn. It welcomes the flooding of every white-majority nation with black and brown "immigrants” and “refugees.” It embraces the vehemently anti-white zeitgeist that permeates the culture in every way. Without those odious Nazis, the West is now openly pro-feminist, pro-black, pro-Muslim, pro-Jewish, pro-choice, pro-LGBT, pro-Zionist, pro-BLM, pro-anything that will aid in the extinction of heterosexual white men. The West is socially communist, but controlled by a handful of capitalistic mega-corporations. I'd say that the West's "turn would come," but it came so long ago that the resulting chaos may never be reversed. An ironic comeuppance that I also wish had never occurred.
Sorry for the rant, as I'm sure I haven't changed anyone's mind anyway. I've come to realize that the old saying: "there are two sides to every story" rings true in the majority of human interactions. Even Karl Marx's "Communist Manifesto" was written as a direct result of the dreadful treatment of workers and the lower classes during the Industrial Revolution.
The lies of omission are just as much a part of all of the endless (Rothschild) propaganda. Where are all of the mainstream newspaper/magazine articles, TV/Cable programs, movies/films/documentaries etc. on Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, etc. and their atrocities over the past 50 years? Anyone? More lies of omission. Why? How?
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I recently came across an interview on Youtube with a British historian - David Irving. I knew nothing about him until a few days ago but he wrote a definitive history of the Dresden Fire Bombings and has done extensive research and wrote many books on the Third Reich - mainly the leadership. He has been attacked as a holocaust denier and went to court in 2000 over this in England.
Pretty good video of Irving discussing his book Churchill's War and giving his perspective of how Churchill operated. Eye opening stuff for a History buff like me.
Pretty good video of Irving discussing his book Churchill's War and giving his perspective of how Churchill operated. Eye opening stuff for a History buff like me.
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I read that book and also Alexander McKee's Dresden 1945 The Devil's Tinderbox. I thought the latter much more powerful. He made it more personal, telling the story of the people on the ground, like the Dresden famous animal trainer who also ran - or worked at - I forgot which - the world famous Dresden Zoo. He was a broken man afterwards, after the Americans not only used their Mustangs to strafe the burned survivors who had fled to the river, but even strafed the animals in the zoo.
Irving didn't just go to court. In 2006 they sentenced him to three years in prison in Austria for "holocaust denial", a Thought Crime, and he was locked up there for 13 months.
If you want to search for info on any of this don't use Google. It has been "politically corrected". DuckDuckGo search engine is better.
https://www.amazon.com/Dresden-1945...736613498/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
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I completely agree.
How true. Communism/socialism has killed many more people than Nazism. Yet nazism gets so much more bad exposure in Hollywood and in popular culture. Because Hollywood and popular culture is run by Jews who hate Nazis and hate White goyim in general, and the Jews invented communism.
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More truth. That 1 sentence explains so much of the misery in our world right now.
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The same person who is so wrong on one issue can be so right on another. Example - another Conservative British Prime Minister - Margaret Thatcher.
She hated Germans. (So wrong).
She wanted White people in South Africa to have their own all-White nation. (So right).
She hated Germans. (So wrong).
She wanted White people in South Africa to have their own all-White nation. (So right).
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Irving elaborates on Churchill's connections to the Zionists.
This is about WWI not the second world war, but didn't want to start a new thread. Interesting how easily Americans have always been whipped up by war propaganda. Given how conservatives today have fallen for the perpetual "war on terror" malarkey, the question is, will Americans ever stop falling for rally round the flag rhetoric? War is a racket, one clearly rotting this country internally, yet still most conservatives can't put two and two together. This article is from an establishment British newspaper:
Tarred and Feathered, Lynched in the Street and Locked Up in Internment Camps: The Tragic Plight of Germans in America During the First World War
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4992032/Germans-AMERICA-World-War.html
Tarred and Feathered, Lynched in the Street and Locked Up in Internment Camps: The Tragic Plight of Germans in America During the First World War
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4992032/Germans-AMERICA-World-War.html
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“The names of German food were removed from restaurant menus; sauerkraut became 'liberty cabbage', hamburger became 'liberty steak'.
Even German Daschund dogs became known as 'liberty dogs' and German measles became 'liberty measles'.”
When I was in elementary school in the 1990’s, I actually learned about some of the non-violent forms (such as the quotes above concerning the “re-naming” German dogs, towns, and foods) of anti-German hysteria occurring in the U.S. during WW1. It always stuck with me, especially since my family spoke German and we had a Daschund.
The worst story of persecution that I’ve read occurred to Robert Prager in Illinois. Sickening stuff.
This time of extreme distrust for all things German is the reason “The Espionage Act” was passed by Congress.
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Would the West have fallen to Cultural Marxism if Hitler’s Germany won the “Great War”? An interesting take.
https://dailystormer.name/good-thing-hitler-lost-really-dodged-a-bullet-there/
https://dailystormer.name/good-thing-hitler-lost-really-dodged-a-bullet-there/
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"The Great War:" was what they called their first world war, Part one of the great fratricidal wars of the 20th century to destroy the white race and western civilization and make the world safe for Israel, or "the war to end all wars" or "the war to destroy the barbarian huns" or "the wor to save motherhood and apple pie and the american way of life", as they billed it to their american cannon fodders. Anyway, it's a good and true article, the same thing I've been saying and getting attacked for saying it, right on here, by allegedly racially aware people.
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Yeah, kind of like the way that all of you "Allied Apologists" haven't explained the following...
Dwight Eisenhower's Post-WWII Death Camps for German POW's:
This lovely vacation destination featured mass-torture, mass-starvation, brutal cold with no shelter whatsoever, drinking one's own urine to remain hydrated, daily savage beatings at the hands of the Americas guards, and, of course, millions of deaths and murders...
"For years we have blamed the 1.7 million missing German POW's on the Russians. Until now, no one dug too deeply ... Witnesses and survivors have been interviewed by the author; one Allied officer compared the American camps to Buchenwald."
"When they caught me throwing C- Rations over the fence, they threatened me with imprisonment. One Captain told me that he would shoot me if he saw me again tossing food to the Germans ... Some of the men were really only boys 13 years of age...Some of the prisoners were old men drafted by Hitler in his last ditch stand ... I understand that average weight of the prisoners at Andernach was 90 pounds...I have received threats ... Nevertheless, this...has liberated me, for I may now be heard when I relate the horrible atrocity I witnessed as a prison guard for one of 'Ike's death camps' along the Rhine."
"It’s incomprehensible to me how we could stand for many, many days without sitting, without lying down, just standing there, totally soaked. During the day we marched around, huddled together to try to warm each other a bit. The latrines were just logs flung over ditches next to the barbed wire fences. To sleep, all we could do was to dig out a hole in the ground with our hands, then cling together in the hole. . . . Because of illness, the men had to defecate on the ground. Soon, many of us were too weak to take off our trousers first. So our clothing was infected, and so was the mud where we had to walk and sit and lie down. There was no water at all at first, except the rain. . . . More than half the days we had no food at all. On the rest, we got a little K ration. I could see from the package that they were giving us one tenth of the rations that they issued to their own men. . . . I complained to the American camp commander that he was breaking the Geneva Convention, but he just said, “Forget the Convention. You haven’t any rights.” Within a few days, some of the men who had gone healthy into the camps were dead. I saw our men dragging many dead bodies to the gate of the camp, where they were thrown loose on top of each other onto trucks, which took them away."
Sounds nice, huh?
Mass Rape:
The brutal and depraved mass-rape committed against German women by U.S. soldiers (including black soldiers). These disgusting atrocities were even mentioned by the highly-respected W.L. Pierce in his novel "Hunter," where he heavily chastises white U.S. soldiers for allowing this to occur. Many German women were raped to death, others were raped so often that they became pregnant. Some quotes from those who lived through Allied horror for everyone to consider...
"The Russians were coming and going the whole time and they kept eyeing us greedily. The nights were dreadful because we were never safe for a moment. The women were raped, not once or twice but ten, twenty, thirty and a hundred times, and it was all the same to the Russians whether they raped mere children or old women. The youngest victim in the row houses where we lived was ten years of age and the oldest one was over seventy."
"These atrocities were not committed secretly or in hidden corners but in public, in churches, on the streets, and on the squares. . . . Mothers were raped in the presence of their children, girls were raped in front of their brothers."
"We had never seen anything like it—utterly, unbelievably monstrous! Naked, dead women lay in many of the rooms. Swastikas had been cut into their abdomens, in some the intestines bulged out, breasts were cut up, faces beaten to a pulp and swollen puffy. Others had been tied to the furniture by their hands and feet, and massacred. A broomstick protruded from the vagina of one, a besom from that of another. . . . The mothers had had to witness how their ten and twelve-year-old daughters were raped by some 20 men; the daughters in turn saw their mothers being raped, even their grandmothers. Women who tried to resist were brutally tortured to death. There was no mercy."
Of course, much of the most ghastly incidents of mass-rape came courtesy of the Soviet Union's Red Army, an ally of the U.S. and Britain. Slander Hitler and the Nazis all you want...but they didn't align themselves with these ultra-sadistic Bolshevik vermin. No, that was the Allies.
Mass Torture:
The Medieval-style mass-torture (including the all-too-common "testicle crushing") of German officers, POW's, and citizens by the U.S. and British...
According to Van Roden's book American Atrocities in Germany, out of 139 cases of treatment of alleged German “war criminals” that were investigated by the commission (who were put on trial by the American Military Tribunal in Dachau after World War II), 137 were tortured by having their testicles crushed. Other methods used by the American interrogators included brutal beatings, placing a hood over the prisoner and punching them in the face with brass knuckles, breaking jaws, knocking out teeth, starvation rations, and solitary confinement. The prisoners were then presented with prepared statements to sign, "confessing" to various crimes.
The respected Associated Press Photographer, Henry Griffin who had taken the pictures of corpses in Buchenwald and Dachau when visiting Allied POW camps agreed: “The only difference I can see between these men and those corpses is that here they are still breathing. According to revelations by members of the House of Commons, about 130,000 former German officers and men were held during the winter of 1945-46 in British camps in Belgium under conditions which British officers have described as ‘not much better than Belsen.”
Adding to international outrage, Cyril Connolly, one of England’s most acclaimed writers reported: “British guards imprisoned German troops and tortured them.” He described how “they were so possessed by propaganda about German ‘Huns’ that they obviously enjoyed demonstrating their atrocities to visiting journalists. A British reporter named Moorehead who was present at these ‘torture fests’ observed that ‘a young British medical officer and a captain of engineers managed the Bergen-Belsen camp. “The captain was in the best of moods,” he said. “When we approached the cells of gaoled guards, the sergeant lost his temper.” The captain explained. ‘This morning we had an interrogation. I’m afraid the prisoners don’t look exactly nice.’ The cells were opened for the visiting journalists. “The German prisoners lay there, crumpled, moaning, covered with gore. The man next to me made vain attempts to get to his feet and finally managed to stand up. He stood there trembling, and tried to stretch out his arms as if fending off blows. “Up!” yelled the sergeant. “Come off the wall.” “They pushed themselves off from the wall and stood there, swaying. In another cell the medical officer had just finished an interrogation. “Up.” yelled the officer. “Get up.” The man lay in his blood on the floor. He propped two arms on a chair and tried to pull himself up. A second demand and he succeeded in getting to his feet. He stretched his arms towards us. “Why don’t you kill me off?” he moaned. “The dirty bastard is jabbering this all morning.” the sergeant stated.
The respected Associated Press Photographer, Henry Griffin who had taken the pictures of corpses in Buchenwald and Dachau when visiting Allied POW camps agreed: “The only difference I can see between these men and those corpses is that here they are still breathing.”
It has been admitted and revealed (in the memoirs of the top British official, Colonel Alexander Scotland, who ran the program) that thousands of Germans were tortured by British Military Intelligence, under the direction of the Prisoner of War Interrogation Section (PWIS). This torture of German POWs occurred during the war to obtain military intelligence, and after the war was over, in order to obtain confessions for convictions of "war crimes". German POWs reported that the torture techniques included deprivation of sleep, starvation, systematic beatings, ripping hair from the scalp, menacing with red-hot pokers, and threatened use of electrical devices.
Don't get me started on the thousands of Germans who "confessed" to crimes they didn't commit as a result of ghastly torture at the Allied-run "Nuremberg Trials."
Mass Firebombing:
The mass napalm-firebombing of numerous German cities that flash-incinerated (or maimed and displaced) millions of German civilians courtesy of the British Royal Air Force. These bombings, which destroyed so many of the railways and roadways throughout Germany, are believed to be the primary reason that those held in concentration camps were starving to death...
I could go on and on (Allied sinking of rescue ships filled with fleeing German refugees, Allied mass-executions of German battalions that had fully surrendered, etc.), but why bother? I'm fully willing to admit that Germans committed great atrocities against the peoples of Europe, but the other side is never told, let alone held accountable for their war crimes.
For the German victims, there are no apologies, no shedding of tears, no mourning the millions of innocent dead, no museums, no memorials...no nothing. Just a shallow grave and decades of being infinitely cast as "evil incarnate" in hundreds of films, books, TV shows, documentaries, history books, and in popular culture in general. Even if Germany had emerged victorious, I would still wish that WWII had never happened at all and that European nations lived in peace with their own beautiful people and unique cultures. I've never heard a "Nazi-hater" say the same. Cradle-to-grave propaganda is a difficult master from which to free oneself.
Thanks for sharing...that's a "laugh," indeed. Since the glorious Allied victory, the resulting Western world is one that was rapidly transformed into a society that worships negro males (their supposed athletic ability, their forms of "music," even creating a lie about the size of their genitalia). A society that permits the abortions of millions of white children annually. A collection of nations that have allowed its military, its finances, its banking, its media, and its entertainment to be almost universally controlled by Jews. It permits the endless promotion of miscegenation and race-mixing at every turn. It welcomes the flooding of every white-majority nation with black and brown "immigrants” and “refugees.” It embraces the vehemently anti-white zeitgeist that permeates the culture in every way. Without those odious Nazis, the West is now openly pro-feminist, pro-black, pro-Muslim, pro-Jewish, pro-choice, pro-LGBT, pro-Zionist, pro-BLM, pro-anything that will aid in the extinction of heterosexual white men. The West is socially communist, but controlled by a handful of capitalistic mega-corporations. I'd say that the West's "turn would come," but it came so long ago that the resulting chaos may never be reversed. An ironic comeuppance that I also wish had never occurred.
Sorry for the rant, as I'm sure I haven't changed anyone's mind anyway. I've come to realize that the old saying: "there are two sides to every story" rings true in the majority of human interactions. Even Karl Marx's "Communist Manifesto" was written as a direct result of the dreadful treatment of workers and the lower classes during the Industrial Revolution.
I'd heard about the German POW death camps before but I never got into the details. It's horrifying what happened to those poor men and boys. What about all of these sadistic "American" officers and prison guards who took such joy in murdering and torturing these German prisoners, do you think they had last names like Johnson, Williams, and Taylor? I highly doubt it.
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After the war was over more surrendered young German soldiers (most common age 17) were deliberately starved and frozen to death in Eisenhower's death camps then perished on the Western Front throughout the entire War. The American occupation ordered the death penalty for any German civilians who tried to feed the starving prisoners through the fence or by throwing food over the fence.
I once read an account by an American Veteran who was in occupied Germany after the war. He was sickened by what he saw. He said that some of his comrades came back to the barracks and they were laughing because they found a group of German soldiers who had been hiding overnight at the bottom of a crater that was dug out by an explosion. They stood on the top of the crater and shot them down. They called it a turkey shoot. The Germans were just teenagers and they were crying. The American soldiers were laughing when they related the story.
I used to work with a guy, an old-timer named Irv, who's actually still living. I found out he's still living because a bunch of the guys told me that they just visited him in his house and even took pictures of him. He's in his 90s now. Irv was a Jewish guy who was on American bombers over Germany in World War II. His bomber was shot down and he parachuted to the ground. He was captured by German farmers who wanted to kill him. He was happy when the military showed up. They locked him up in one of their prison camps, now dubbed "death camps", and treated him very well. He even shared an office with me at one point. He took the phone apart looking for bugs. He was nuts. So here was not only one of the terror bombers who was destroying Germany but a Jewish man as well, and he was treated very well and he was locked up in a "death camp" and he lived to break my telephone. In fact American pow's had an extremely low death rate in German "death camps" throughout the war. So did all Jews, not just Irv. Both the Vatican and the International Red Cross had access to the German camps throughout the war (but not the Allies' death camps in the USSR!!!). Both estimated that approximately 200,000 Jews died in the war years from all causes, that is Allied terror bombing, old age, disease, etc.
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You do realize that POW camps were not what was referred to as "death camps", right? I know you like to play fast and loose with the facts but that's a big error even for you.
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Too many neo cons or kosher conservatives, like this one, in this place. They get upset when confronted by facts that contradict what they've been taught on tv, except they dimly perceive that they don't like negroes as much as they're supposed to. They ignore everything and just scan for a word they think they can spin. The German POW camps were as much "death camps" as any other prison camp in Germany. The real death camps were run by the All Lies, in the USSR and then by the Bolsheviks and their American comrades in post war Germany.
And then there was the American "Operation Keelhaul".
And then there is what's going on now in still enemy occupied Germany. Look up US military bases in Germany. The Final Solution to the German/Goyim problem.
In 'Eisenhower's Death Camps':
A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p161_Brech.html
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Operating the American torture chambers and death camps in post war Germany were many Jews dressed up in US Army uniforms. The (Jewish) author of *Other Losses* talks about that. Solzhenitzyn said that the rulers of the seven largest gulags (real death camps) in the Soviet Union were all Jewish.
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There is no question that the treatment of prisoners of war is horrible. I'm sure many atrocities were committed against German soldiers after the war. It always happens that way. There are a lot of reasons for it. Resources are limited during and after a war and the last ones anyone cares about is the guys that were formerly trying to kill you. Add in that there is a lot of resentment and fear and it's no wonder POW's are treated so poorly. That does not make it any less tragic.
However the way to avoid such unpleasantness is to avoid war altogether. It was unfortunate that German soldiers were treated like that but it was also unfortunate when they brought death and destruction to so many people before that. Which is why I go back to the fact that it was Hitlers war mongering which ultimately led to German soldiers being POW's. Invasion of Poland, invasion of Czechoslovakia, invasion of France, invasion of Russia, etc. At some point the idea that these are all defensive actions becomes silly.
White people shouldn't be killing white people and Hitler was the worst in this category. He should be hated by all pro-white people.
However the way to avoid such unpleasantness is to avoid war altogether. It was unfortunate that German soldiers were treated like that but it was also unfortunate when they brought death and destruction to so many people before that. Which is why I go back to the fact that it was Hitlers war mongering which ultimately led to German soldiers being POW's. Invasion of Poland, invasion of Czechoslovakia, invasion of France, invasion of Russia, etc. At some point the idea that these are all defensive actions becomes silly.
White people shouldn't be killing white people and Hitler was the worst in this category. He should be hated by all pro-white people.
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Baloney. The Americans had a surplus of food and resources. They deliberately starved and froze and tortured to death the surrendered Germans and tricked the anti communist Russians into surrendering and then sent them to Stalin so he could kill them too. Russian emigrees who had been living in Germany and other countries since the red takeover of Russia too. They called it Operation Keelhaul.
Some rare photos of Eisenhower's death camps are online. Real death camps, like the gulags in the USSR. The Red Cross and Vatican never had access to them, but they did to the German camps throughout the war. Funny how you don't see millions of "survivors" - - over 4 million jewish "death camp survivors" have applied for Reperations. Thats more than all the Jews Hitler ever had in his Third Reich, including the tens of thousands of Jews who fought FOR HIM! Some death camps, huh? - - from these real death camps sitting on their fat tukhases in Miami Beach and West Hollywood collecting Reperations. Huh? And that's because they're dead.
Some rare photos of Eisenhower's death camps are online. Real death camps, like the gulags in the USSR. The Red Cross and Vatican never had access to them, but they did to the German camps throughout the war. Funny how you don't see millions of "survivors" - - over 4 million jewish "death camp survivors" have applied for Reperations. Thats more than all the Jews Hitler ever had in his Third Reich, including the tens of thousands of Jews who fought FOR HIM! Some death camps, huh? - - from these real death camps sitting on their fat tukhases in Miami Beach and West Hollywood collecting Reperations. Huh? And that's because they're dead.
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Yes.
The bravest and best died in WW II - it was a terrible waste of millions of lives. Germany was destroyed by the end of the war, Britain and France were bankrupt, Hungary and Romania were enslaved. European nations were greatly weakened, not long afterwards Britain and France would begin to lose their colonies.
I find watching movies about the European part of WW II depresses me. I do enjoy movies about the Pacific War, like Hacksaw Ridge and The Great Raid.
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The issue of Eisenhower and the German POWs was thoroughly discussed in the early 1990's in books, articles, and panels of historians. There WAS mistreatment by Americans of German prisoners. Some Americans (with names like Johnson, Williams, and Taylor, also Schmidt and Mueller) acted brutally. The "missing million" were Volksturm old men and young boys and some from regular units who were quickly released without being recorded. The highest possible figure for German POW deaths in American hands was 56,000, not a small number in itself, but out of over five million, it amounted to one percent. This is close to the percentage of American POWS who died in German captivity. Since then the subject has been mentioned in histories of WW II.
Due to the war Hitler started, there was a horrendous food shortage in Europe in 1945.
Yes, Hitler should be hated by all pro-white people.
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Sigh. Ongoing thread of evil Hitler vs evil Allies. Getting old . In some sense glad it's getting recognition, but sad at the divide it's creating here, Bickering about long gone white vs white wars is pointless. The loss of life is established, fact that we can't agree is a ((job)) well done .
((Bigger fish to fry.))
((Bigger fish to fry.))
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"Bigger fish to fry". I don't know about that. You see what they are doing to our ancestral homeland, Europe, right now? Destroying it FOR ALL TIME TO COME! And the epicenter of the destruction is Germany. Enemy occupied Germany. Look up US military bases in Germany. Like Shamir said, once the Americans come they never leave, unless they are thrown out, like the Vietnamese did. And how many young Americans - and many many more Vietnamese - died in that bs war for the lying politicians and their handlers behind the screen - "domino theory" and Gulf of Tonkin and whatever other bs their speechwriters could invent? Domino theory my ass. Now they are itching to start ww3 in the middle east. Endless war and death and destruction they love it.
Nearly every debate today comes down to 2 words - "Nazis" and the "Holocaust." There really is no bigger fish to fry than the truth of the events leading up to WW2 and the Holocaust. In the eyes of the mainstream rest of the world, we are all vial Nazis for supporting white athletes or white rights in anyway. I guess it comes down to what choose to believe. For me it's logical.
I believe almost in its entirety the German or Hitler version of the events. Don't call me names now like Nazi apologists - it might hurt my feels. I have not come to my beliefs by joining some hate group or reading radical literature. I've kind of always had this view since elementary school because I guess it was natural. First of all, I could care less of the "woe is me, what about the Jews and Gypsies." There are not my people and I am not conditioned to believe they acted more morally than my people. If they got a sacking in WW2, I figured they deserved it. My Grandmother was actually kidnapped by Gypsies when she was about 3 years old. Her father caught up to the gypsies horse and buggy a few miles down the road and that is why I am here today and I don't feel sorry for what he did to them. My dad, who was rather neutral on the topic of WW2, worked with an old German man who fought in the war. They often chided him about the war and being German in a friendly way of course. His line about how the Germans treated the Jews, was - and I paraphrase "If you only knew how the Jews treated us Germans before the war, you would have no sympathy for them." This stuck in my mind. Anyways, enough about my 2 minutes of hate.
On to the logic of WW2. Let me ask what anyone thinks would happen to any white nation today that became a non-Jewish white ethnic state. Wouldn't they "literally be Hitler" as a SJW would say? Wouldn't a war suddenly happen to "liberate" those happy white people from their very popular leader. I think if Iceland today decided to do something as timid as barring non-white (including Jews) immigrants the hellhounds of the world would descend on them and justify a war anyway they could. Their leader would be "literally Hitler." There is no doubt of this. Are you so sure this didn't happen in WW2? Was Hitler really after world domination? Was he always in the wrong? Was he hyper-aggressive? Was he nuts? Did he chew-carpet?
Running out of time so I'll try to sum up on memory alone - don't nit-pick. The war started because we were told Hitler was being aggressive yet Germany was still smaller than Germany of pre-WW1. Austria was annexed peacefully and with the overwhelming support of the Austrian people. The Sudetenland was annexed per a peaceful international treaty- it was nearly all German anyway. A Part of the rest of Czechoslovakia was put under a German Protectorate at the request of the Chech President. Poland sent troops in and took part for themselves without any opposition (yet no war overtures towards Poland). Other parts like Slovakia were declared independent states. So far, seems pretty peaceful. But the drumbeats of war were loud in the Western World and have been since 1933 really - well before any supposed actions of aggression. I guess the morality of the was all comes down to Poland which I will have to address later as I am out of time.
I believe almost in its entirety the German or Hitler version of the events. Don't call me names now like Nazi apologists - it might hurt my feels. I have not come to my beliefs by joining some hate group or reading radical literature. I've kind of always had this view since elementary school because I guess it was natural. First of all, I could care less of the "woe is me, what about the Jews and Gypsies." There are not my people and I am not conditioned to believe they acted more morally than my people. If they got a sacking in WW2, I figured they deserved it. My Grandmother was actually kidnapped by Gypsies when she was about 3 years old. Her father caught up to the gypsies horse and buggy a few miles down the road and that is why I am here today and I don't feel sorry for what he did to them. My dad, who was rather neutral on the topic of WW2, worked with an old German man who fought in the war. They often chided him about the war and being German in a friendly way of course. His line about how the Germans treated the Jews, was - and I paraphrase "If you only knew how the Jews treated us Germans before the war, you would have no sympathy for them." This stuck in my mind. Anyways, enough about my 2 minutes of hate.
On to the logic of WW2. Let me ask what anyone thinks would happen to any white nation today that became a non-Jewish white ethnic state. Wouldn't they "literally be Hitler" as a SJW would say? Wouldn't a war suddenly happen to "liberate" those happy white people from their very popular leader. I think if Iceland today decided to do something as timid as barring non-white (including Jews) immigrants the hellhounds of the world would descend on them and justify a war anyway they could. Their leader would be "literally Hitler." There is no doubt of this. Are you so sure this didn't happen in WW2? Was Hitler really after world domination? Was he always in the wrong? Was he hyper-aggressive? Was he nuts? Did he chew-carpet?
Running out of time so I'll try to sum up on memory alone - don't nit-pick. The war started because we were told Hitler was being aggressive yet Germany was still smaller than Germany of pre-WW1. Austria was annexed peacefully and with the overwhelming support of the Austrian people. The Sudetenland was annexed per a peaceful international treaty- it was nearly all German anyway. A Part of the rest of Czechoslovakia was put under a German Protectorate at the request of the Chech President. Poland sent troops in and took part for themselves without any opposition (yet no war overtures towards Poland). Other parts like Slovakia were declared independent states. So far, seems pretty peaceful. But the drumbeats of war were loud in the Western World and have been since 1933 really - well before any supposed actions of aggression. I guess the morality of the was all comes down to Poland which I will have to address later as I am out of time.
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