davidholly
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Or maybe he knows who his audience is.
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Or maybe he knows who his audience is.
Woodhead returned to practice today, which is a relief following a week and a half off due to a mysterious injury that the coaching staff refused to divulge.
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I don't like this silent treatment Danny Woodhead is getting. I'm not so sure at all he's got the team made.
I smell a rat. They may very well wait until the last minute and just cut him. If he doesn't play this week, I'm sure it'll happen.
joegoofinoff...
I smell a rat. They may very well wait until the last minute and just cut him. If he doesn't play this week, I'm sure it'll happen.
joegoofinoff...
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I agree Joe. Woodhead strikes more fear into the hearts of the WWE/NFL puppet masters than any other player. He could not only break records, but he shatters the myth that you have to be either big, or black to be a successful runningback in the WWE/NFL.
too easy to just let him go, some team is bound to pick him up. He is a great receiver out of the backfield and a great blocker. I guess we'll call it the Leonard role, he was the first to start doing the job. All the dirty work a starting rb is supposed to do, and Danny is supposedly so small to handle a "huge" workload but can handle blocking defensive linemen and linebackers.
What they can do is misuse him. If everyone is injured and they simply misuse him, that takes is credibility away, but its been hard to misuse him. Nothing but draws up the gut HE STILL SUCCEEDS, while injured, not one play over 12 yards and still averages 4+ ypc. He had to power his way through. Now he doesn't break any stereotypes like that, but still getting something done. But it is a poorly run franchise and a guy like him could do worse on that team with less talent around him. Look at Sproles jump in ypc and production in general going to the Saints. However, Woodhead is better than Sproles.
This recent article isn't pleasing"
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If Woodhead does not produce as hoped it will not be due to lack of talent. Woodhead is a tough runner and great in the passing game on third downs. He shocks people with his skills because he does not look intimidating when he walks on the field. He is listed at 5’8 and 200 lbs; probably generous on both accounts.
Woodhead could struggle this season because this should be the year former first-round pick, Ryan Matthews steps up. The team has worked to make the offensive line better and for once Matthews appears fully healthy. If he steps his game up to the level the team hopes when they selected him, chances for Woodhead could be few and far between.
Another reason Woodhead may not be a huge factor in the offense is offensive coordinator Ken Wisenhunt. While with the Arizona Cardinals, Wisenhunt had a running back very similar named LaRod Stephens-Howling. In four years with Wisenhunt, Stephens-Howling never amassed more than 17 catches in one season.
Woodhead has the skills to be productive in the NFL, but the NFL is about timing and opportunity"
Larod isn't even half the back as Danny. Not many black in the HISTORY of the NFL have failed due to being in the "Wrong place at the wrong time", eventually most find themselves in a good situation and their talent shows. I cant think of too off the top of my head.
What they can do is misuse him. If everyone is injured and they simply misuse him, that takes is credibility away, but its been hard to misuse him. Nothing but draws up the gut HE STILL SUCCEEDS, while injured, not one play over 12 yards and still averages 4+ ypc. He had to power his way through. Now he doesn't break any stereotypes like that, but still getting something done. But it is a poorly run franchise and a guy like him could do worse on that team with less talent around him. Look at Sproles jump in ypc and production in general going to the Saints. However, Woodhead is better than Sproles.
This recent article isn't pleasing"
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If Woodhead does not produce as hoped it will not be due to lack of talent. Woodhead is a tough runner and great in the passing game on third downs. He shocks people with his skills because he does not look intimidating when he walks on the field. He is listed at 5’8 and 200 lbs; probably generous on both accounts.
Woodhead could struggle this season because this should be the year former first-round pick, Ryan Matthews steps up. The team has worked to make the offensive line better and for once Matthews appears fully healthy. If he steps his game up to the level the team hopes when they selected him, chances for Woodhead could be few and far between.
Another reason Woodhead may not be a huge factor in the offense is offensive coordinator Ken Wisenhunt. While with the Arizona Cardinals, Wisenhunt had a running back very similar named LaRod Stephens-Howling. In four years with Wisenhunt, Stephens-Howling never amassed more than 17 catches in one season.
Woodhead has the skills to be productive in the NFL, but the NFL is about timing and opportunity"
Larod isn't even half the back as Danny. Not many black in the HISTORY of the NFL have failed due to being in the "Wrong place at the wrong time", eventually most find themselves in a good situation and their talent shows. I cant think of too off the top of my head.
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How is it that EVERY SINGLE white RB drafted in the last 6-7 years or so have always fallen victim to this "timing and opportunity" BS? Leonard? Yep. Hester? Yep. Gerhart? Yep. Burkhead? Yep. We all know the Hillis story, who's only been the white RB who's got some luck in the last few years. And now look at him. Struggling to make the Bucs right now, because some rookie black RB has flashed his trademark "upside" in a meaningless preseason game, something that usually doesn't work for white players that well.
Like you said dwid, I don't think blacks have ever failed due to being in the "wrong place at the wrong time." Coaches bend over backwards for these guys, and they get around 5 "changes of scenery" to show their "upside" and "awesome talent" before being reluctantly released by said team, sad that yet again, a black prospect didn't develop his "talent" or "upside."
I'd sure love some clarification of Woodhead's situation. A mysterious, undisclosed injury or personal problem, resulting in his not playing in preseason, and total silence now on the fantasy sites, who earlier had hyped his chances of getting significant playing time.
Meanwhile, bust Ryan Matthews is said to be looking "great." As always, the beat goes on.
Meanwhile, bust Ryan Matthews is said to be looking "great." As always, the beat goes on.
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I respectfully disagree concerning Woodhead’s playing time in San Diego for the upcoming season. Since signing with the Chargers, Danny has received the most praise, excitement, and positivity from media and fans during the off-season than any other white player. During their pre-season game last week, Woodhead was held out due to a minor injury. During the broadcast, the commentators heaped praise upon Woodhead, mentioning his vast accomplishments with the Patriots and suggesting that he could blossom into a star with San Diego. Several reports from camp a few weeks ago mentioned that Danny was Phillip Rivers’ “favorite receiver” whenever he practiced. He’ll certainly make the squad as Matthews’ back-up and assume the role played by Darren Sproles (scat back) a few years ago…
CAPTION: Woodhead Practices in SD
An update on his injury situation from ESPN…
For Danny, shattering the oppression instituted by the Caste System has been a long journey that began in high school, to Chadron State, to his UDFA days with the Jets, to the Patriots, to the Chargers. Overtaking the hapless bust, Ryan Matthews, should be easy by comparison…
CAPTION: The Pre-Season Game That Changed His Life (2009)
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Thrashen, I hope you're right.
joegoofinoff...
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As if Ronnie Brown is some great running back who must be revered as his remarkably undistinguished career slowly comes to an end, or alternatively it means Danny Woodhead is going to be screwed over this season. From Weenieworld:
Danny Woodhead is listed behind Ronnie Brown on the Chargers' official depth chart. It's likely just out of deference to Brown's tenure in San Diego. Brown was on the roster bubble after a rough preseason, and has far less left in the tank than Woodhead. Brown tallied 49 receptions in 2012, but we'd expect Woodhead to out-catch him this season.
Danny Woodhead is listed behind Ronnie Brown on the Chargers' official depth chart. It's likely just out of deference to Brown's tenure in San Diego. Brown was on the roster bubble after a rough preseason, and has far less left in the tank than Woodhead. Brown tallied 49 receptions in 2012, but we'd expect Woodhead to out-catch him this season.
This article list Woodhead amongst the Chargers most important players...would be higher but they list the O-Line players with their uncertainty..
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/sep/04/chargers-ranking-roster-acee/
Can not find the short video where Sports Illustrated dude said "as Danny Woodhead goes...so does the Chargers O" a vital cog...
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/sep/04/chargers-ranking-roster-acee/
Can not find the short video where Sports Illustrated dude said "as Danny Woodhead goes...so does the Chargers O" a vital cog...
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Woodhead is currently the 11th highest scoring RB in PPR fantasy leagues! While he is averaging the lowest YPC of his career ie. 3.7 (career 4.6), he has had a nose for the end-zone. Also, despite his size- he has been used a fair bit in short yardage bringing down his YPC. He leads the league in receptions for RBs- and is on pace for over 1,100 all purpose yards and 9 TDs. He is on pace for 91 catches. He is this high in fantasy points while barely playing week one! He has caught an incredible 40 of 45 balls thrown his way!
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The latest from Rotoworld:
Danny Woodhead played on 28-of-67 snaps in last week's loss to the Bengals.
Woodhead finished with just seven carries and two catches on three targets. The decreased usage has become something of a trend as he's averaged only 29.0 snaps and 9.0 touches across the last four games. In the seven games before that, he was at 36.7 snaps and 14.2 touches a day. Woodhead is still a RB2 candidate in PPR formats, but the floor is getting lower as his volume decreases.
Woodhead's unexpected successs this season has been a very pleasant surprise. His sudden diminished usage shouldn't be as surprising, but somehow it still is. What possible justification is there for this? It would be great to see Philip Rivers step up and make one of those comments of support white QBs are notorious for making about their black teammates. You know, something like, "we need Danny out there. He's been a big part of our offense."
Reading some of the fantasy football forums, the recent threads on Woodhead sound almost like they could have been written by members here. That's the great thing about fantasy football. Once someone has picked up a Woodhead, and had success with him in fantasy, their natural DWF tendencies vanish- they aren't going to just submissively accept that a player who's been getting them lots of points suddenly isn't playing.
I know I cannot trust the Chargers to play Woodhead enough to start him in my fantasy playoffs. I certainly don't expect Woodhead to ask why he's not playing.
Danny Woodhead played on 28-of-67 snaps in last week's loss to the Bengals.
Woodhead finished with just seven carries and two catches on three targets. The decreased usage has become something of a trend as he's averaged only 29.0 snaps and 9.0 touches across the last four games. In the seven games before that, he was at 36.7 snaps and 14.2 touches a day. Woodhead is still a RB2 candidate in PPR formats, but the floor is getting lower as his volume decreases.
Woodhead's unexpected successs this season has been a very pleasant surprise. His sudden diminished usage shouldn't be as surprising, but somehow it still is. What possible justification is there for this? It would be great to see Philip Rivers step up and make one of those comments of support white QBs are notorious for making about their black teammates. You know, something like, "we need Danny out there. He's been a big part of our offense."
Reading some of the fantasy football forums, the recent threads on Woodhead sound almost like they could have been written by members here. That's the great thing about fantasy football. Once someone has picked up a Woodhead, and had success with him in fantasy, their natural DWF tendencies vanish- they aren't going to just submissively accept that a player who's been getting them lots of points suddenly isn't playing.
I know I cannot trust the Chargers to play Woodhead enough to start him in my fantasy playoffs. I certainly don't expect Woodhead to ask why he's not playing.
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Great question, and obviously there is no logical justification at all for it. Its perfectly clear that the Chargers got instructions to make sure Woodheads role was diminished. He wasnt even getting decent playing time in the first place, but his role has inexplicably been reduced.
I laugh out loud every time I hear, or read the statement "winning is whats most important".
Only a fool could believe that!
Equally ridiculous is the idea that making money is what Owners, GMs, and most coaches are concerned with. The NFL exist for the same reason the NBA, Hollywood, Public Schools, super Churches, ESPN, Fox Sports, and all the rest exist. To promote the non White, and belittle the White.
If any team gets too close to the boundaries the puppet masters have set, well, that team suddenly changes their formula to reflect a more politically correct version of diversity.
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Nice post, bigunreal. This should be a real eye-opener for the unwashed DWF masses. Not that it is, but should be. Anyone who pays any attention to the San Diego offense and its efficiency would note the rather pronounced difference when Danny is in the game vs. Brown or Mathews, especially the scrub Brown. In the Kansas City game, Woodhead played quite a bit, and almost every drive that he saw extended time, they scored, with Woodhead either getting a key reception to move the chains, or making a timely block on a blitzing linebacker.
Yet, even after all of the plain-to-see evidence, the coaches insist on using the "real athletes" and end up only scoring 7 points. "Best players play" and "NFL coaches are geniuses", obviously not.
Yet, even after all of the plain-to-see evidence, the coaches insist on using the "real athletes" and end up only scoring 7 points. "Best players play" and "NFL coaches are geniuses", obviously not.
That's why the Chargers have lost 4 out of their last 5 games. And the game they won against the Chiefs, Woodhead was the star of the game despite only being used in the 2 minute offense. I used to believe that coaches had an inherent bias or succumbed to pressure from black players, but it has become apparent that there are league directives against the use of White running backs.
instructions from whom? do you really think someone called Chargers and said: use Woodhead less? come on now...
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Yep, the scary thing is that they don't need explicit instructions, they do it automatically. That's the pervasiveness of this stuff. It's the same reason why there's no memo from Obama to the I.R.S. saying "give the Tea Party groups a hard time." No such memo is necessary.
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You have to wonder how much evidence they need to realize that whites are being discriminated against.
Maybe they're so brainwashed their brains can't formulate the idea that whites can be discriminated against.
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White privilege.
Non-whites and White liberals believe whole-heartedly in this. They don't realize that ship sailed generations ago. In their mind, they probably think there are too many Whites undeservingly in the NFL due to White Privilege. You see J'Marcus and DeShawn could be just as good as Tom Brady and Peyton Manning if they went to quarterback camps, had great HS coaching, had top training facilities, etc. They think all Whites grow up with a silver spoon in their mouth when in reality many are just middle class slobs struggling to get by and the ones that are doing well got there with hard work, smarts and discipline.
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Yes.
There is, of course, no white privilege, only black privilege.
Many of these anti-white, black supremacist white liberals have had few dealings with non-whites, so they can be told that they're "oppressed" without realizing it's nonsense.
The leftists are very good at role reversal. They accuse those they hate of doing what they do and being what they are.
Whites are discriminated against and the leftists accuse white people of discriminating against others. Blacks get special privileges and the leftists lie about non-existent "white privilege."
Role reversal is a very common tactic the anti-white leftists use.
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THats about a million times more logical than thinking that any coach, whos been around football any amount of time, would think that Matthews, and Brown belong on the field instead of Woodhead. We call these coaches "idiots" all the time, but the truth is they are sellouts. They arent stupid men, they are corrupt men.
I think its more of a matter of looking at the first 8 games, and realizing that he was going to get like 1100 to 1300 yards from scrimmage with 8 to 10 tds. They don't want to pay him, a guy with a bigger contract, then you are kind of forced to use him in a bigger role.
At this rate he should reach 1k from scrimmage and maybe 7 tds at the most but the last 4 games would put him at around 950 yards, still 7 or 8 tds. That is still good production, but way less than he is capable, even the role he had before is way less than what he is capable of. 69 yards per game to 46 yards per game.
He rarely, pretty much never gets to run off tackle, sweeps etc. Its always up the gut. Even then his big runs get taken away for holding. He had a nice 30 yard td run that was called back that I pointed out, it was a ridiculous call.
They want him to do mostly grunt work (blocking, keeping defenses honest out of shotgun running draws up the gut) and keep drives alive when absolutely needed (even now they aren't doing that)
At this rate he should reach 1k from scrimmage and maybe 7 tds at the most but the last 4 games would put him at around 950 yards, still 7 or 8 tds. That is still good production, but way less than he is capable, even the role he had before is way less than what he is capable of. 69 yards per game to 46 yards per game.
He rarely, pretty much never gets to run off tackle, sweeps etc. Its always up the gut. Even then his big runs get taken away for holding. He had a nice 30 yard td run that was called back that I pointed out, it was a ridiculous call.
They want him to do mostly grunt work (blocking, keeping defenses honest out of shotgun running draws up the gut) and keep drives alive when absolutely needed (even now they aren't doing that)
i dunno bud, if i believed it is that corrupt i wouldn't spend another minute watching a game. they are sellouts, but to the general culture of believing that blacks are superior athletes. i do not want to believe that they are getting paid for not letting certain white players on the field. racism and discrimination? sure. a conscious corrupted effort to hold someone like Woodhead down? i don't think so. they got a guy who will never complain, who will do his job no matter what, no matter how ungrateful it is and will play his heart out. on top of that, if he plays less, DWF are not likely to kick up a fuss. hence he's a safe option to do with as they please. that's how i see it.
but like I said, i think its in the back of their minds, if he has a 1200 yard year with 8 to 10 tds, thats going to factor into having a bigger pay day whenever his contract is up, they are less likely to do with him as they please. Once you pay a guy a bigger amount then fans expect to see a bigger role, kind of like how Hillis never got paid what he should have. 1200 might not seem like much more than 950 but its over 1k, and 1100 yards seems to be the new standard for a big season. 1k is closer to 60 yards per game, like 62, 1100 is closer to 70 yards per game.
They want a cheap utility back that can do all of the grunt work. They should have picked up another White back like Nate Kmic, or Chase Reynolds who is still on a practice squad because it really is wasting Woodhead's talent. They don't even want him to be closer to a Sproles role, he was on pace for 98 catches, he is going to have around 70 now. He is bigger than Sproles, and can obviously handle a bigger workload. Its kind of like how Jamaal Charles went from a guy in a timeshare to feature back.
and about dwfs not kicking up a fuss, well like someone said with fantasy football, I think they are. He was scoring like a top back in ppr leagues. Had he stayed on pace for 1100 to 1200 yards, more fans would have drafted him earlier and would be questioning why he isn't being used. People are already questioning why he hasn't been used as much with fantasy playoffs on the line, with Brown stealing touches. Its not like they are winning by playing Woodhead less.
You see it over and over, they dont want to pay White players big money other than at qb maybe, especially don't want to pay them at skill positions. People call AJ Hawk a bust and constantly say it was a bad move to give him a big contract, AJ Hawk is simply an above average linebacker. I wouldn't put him the elite category but right below it. In dwfs minds a White guy making that kind of money should be elite, well they get upset if any White skill player is not elite. Above average won't cut it, and average/solid definitely wont cut it which is why players like Scott Shanle and Reed Doughty are hated so much. You can't fill every position with super stars, and there are a ton of average to below average black players who are merely solid role players at best which are never criticized, very few White players who fit this profile, they are usually above average to elite.
If they pay Woodhead what he deserves and he fails to meet expectations (which they probably think, believing in black superiority) then they will get criticized very badly for the move, but of course, I think if they pay him, and use him correctly, he puts up monster stats.
but then again, there may be someone higher up calling the shots, Leonard to the Rams with Steven Jackson in his prime? Hester to the Chargers with LT in his prime? Gerhart to the VIkings with Peterson in his prime? Burkhead gets drafted when they drafted a back with a similar skillset (at least with receiving, I think Burkhead can run tougher and better pass blocker) way earlier. Its too much to be coincidence.
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