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BeyondFedUp

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L.A. County just extended the Lockdown three more months. Great but short commentary by Dave Hodges and how this parallels Bolshevism to the core. L.A. is toast and all the surrounding cities.

 
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And for those of you who haven't seen this viral video. Truth sarcasm on steroids:

 
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Telling the truth about live open markets in an unregulated third world country will land a singer in the PC penalty box it seems.......
 

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I just wish for ONCE a White person wouldn't CUCK!
AND THEN SAY, "YEAH, I SAID IT, AND I'M NOT SORRY...AND .... OFF!"
 
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If this becomes the "new normal" for flying, the tourism industry will be permanently destroyed, especially international travel. The only people who will go through this insanity will be those who have to for business reasons, and masochists.

Future Air Travel: Four-Hour Process, Self Check-In, Disinfection, Immunity Passes

by Cecilia Rodriguez

Once airports and borders open again and people are able to fly freely — a process already in play as airports of all sizes around the world ready strategies to ensure healthy air travel — how much are you ready to change your flying habits?

As much as was required after 9/11? Less? More?

Considering some of the changes already happening and the many more recommended before airports can reopen safely to commercial routes, experts are referring to the coronavirus pandemic as ‘the new terrorism,’ triggering the biggest crisis the airline industry has ever faced.

Let’s start with the entire process of checking in for flights, which some calculate that it could take up to four hours and involving social distancing, sanitation of passengers and luggage, wider spaces for various lines and waiting to board.

Nine out of 10 experts expect slower turnarounds between flights due to the need of thorough cleaning of cabins and following of sanitary measures at airports.

What You Can Expect
Among the steps under consideration: no cabin bags, no lounges, no automatic upgrades, face masks, surgical gloves, self-check-in, self-bag-drop-off, immunity passports, on-the-spot blood tests and sanitation disinfection tunnels.

Digital technologies and automation will play a critical role in the future of air travel. The need to reduce “touchpoints” at airports implies mandatory use of biometric boarding that allows passengers to board planes with only their face as a passport.

A number of airlines including British Airways, Qantas and EasyJet already are using the technology.

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According to the World Travel and Tourism Council (WTTC), “the ‘new normal’ at major airports, such as Heathrow, JFK and Singapore Changi will include almost exclusive use of online check-ins, and contactless payments.

Then there are the radical changes the airports will have to make starting most probably with stopping non-fliers from entering at all except for unaccompanied minors or others who need assistance.

They will need more extensive all-biometric check-in systems and efficient DYI for dropping off bags, ‘travel bubbles,’ or tunnels for disinfection. (After being checked in, luggage may also be put through a disinfection fogging tunnel). They also must install demarcation of the spaces for social distancing in corridors and concourses, larger spaces for queues and waiting, plexiglass or other protective barriers at customer service counters, hand sanitation stations and thermal scanning to check crowds for fever-grade body temperatures, which already are in use in some major airports.

“Only those ‘fit to fly’ will be allowed to enter,” predicts the airline strategy firm SimpliFlying, in a recent report, where it identifies more than 70 different areas in the passenger journey that “are expected to either change or to be introduced from scratch, including having bags ‘sanitagged’ after going through fogging, electrostatic or UV-disinfection to restore confidence in flying after COVID-19.”

The Telegraph explains that “it may sound futuristic, but UV sanitation is likely to become commonplace at the world’s airports. London Heathrow says it is to begin trialling the process for its security trays.”

And then comes boarding
The boarding process is expected also to become ‘touchless,’ with options including facial recognition, already used in some U.S. airports for international flights. On the planes, there will be blocked seats, electrostatic spraying, personnel in protective gear and, of course, masks. Major European carriers such as Air France and KLM already have made them compulsory and it’s expected that all other airlines will do the same.

As for food, the tendency is to stop serving altogether on short-haul flights, while the airlines consider ‘light refreshments’ for long-haul flights. Hong Kong Airlines has decided to stop offering food altogether.

On Arrival
At the arrival point, SimpliFlying forecasts, international passengers will need to show some type of immunity document/passport, also advocated by the International Air Transport Association, IATA, to border control agents. Once a vaccine has been found, that could shift to a proof of vaccination.

“Arriving passengers will also undergo another temperature screening at their final destination and potentially even blood tests for COVID-19,” Conde Nast predicts. “Some airports like Hong Kong and Vienna are testing passengers for the coronavirus with a blood test before they are allowed to enter the country. Those types of tests, however, might be short-lived.”

Thermal testing is also recommended by IATA, “while Airlines UK, which represents British Airways, EasyJet and Virgin Atlantic, has said ‘pre-screening’ of travelers should be introduced ideally as early in the passenger journey as possible,” reports The Telegraph.

Although there are no standard decisions about making such tests and screening mandatory, airports and airlines are pushing for uniform regulations. It’s not clear who will be responsible for checking travelers’ temperatures and other Covid-19 symptoms, for example.

SimpliFlying predicts that a new federal health agency likely will be created to coordinate health screenings inside airports.

As immediately following 9/11, a process of trial-and-error is likely, with many airports and airlines following what some ‘pioneers’ establish.

“There will be new protocols for check-in involving digital technology; hand sanitizer stations at frequent points including where luggage is stored; contactless payment instead of cash; using stairs more often than lifts where the two-meter-rule can be harder to maintain; and fitness equipment being moved for greater separation, among other examples,” the WTTC wrote in a recent report.

The international institution says that the sector will face a gradual return to travel over the coming months as a “new normal” emerges before a vaccine becomes available on a mass scale, large enough to inoculate billions of people.

Travel is likely to return first to domestic markets with “staycations,” then to a country’s nearest neighbors before expanding across regions, and then finally across continents to welcome the return of journeys to long-haul international destinations. WTTC believes that younger travelers in the 18-35 age group, who appear to be less vulnerable to COVID-19, also may be among the first to begin traveling again.

According to Gloria Guevara, WTTC President & CEO, traveling in the ‘new normal’ age requires coordinated actions, including new standards and protocols, “for a safe and responsible road to recovery for the global Travel & Tourism sector as consumers start planning trips again.”

The new protocols and standards are being defined following feedback from associations representing the different travel sectors including International Air Transport Association (IATA), the Airport Council International (ACI), Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA), United States Travel Association (USTA), Pacific Asia Travel Association (PATA), International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO), the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), the European Travel Commission (ETC) and the World Tourism Organisation (UNWTO).

But with protocols and standards, biometric systems, immunity passports and the best intentions for a safe road to recovery, the future of traveling, as New York Times’s Niraj Chokshi explains, is still bleak: “With much of the world closed for business, and no widely available vaccine in sight, it may be months, if not years, before airlines operate as many flights as they did before the crisis. Even when people start flying again, the industry could be transformed, much as it was after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.”

And in the process, as it is already the case, some airlines, especially smaller ones, will be push into bankruptcy or become takeover targets. “Consumer fears about catching the virus on crowded planes could lead to reconfigured seating. Carriers may initially entice wary travelers with discounts, but if they can’t fill up flights, they may resort to raising ticket prices.”

For Dave CalhounIn, CEO of Boeing, not only are the smaller airlines in danger. He thinks that at least a major U.S carrier will “most likely” go out of business due to the coronavirus pandemic. In an interview with NBC News’ TODAY, on Tuesday he told Savannah Guthrie: “…something will happen when September comes around. Traffic levels will not be back to 100%. They won’t even be back to 25%. Maybe by the end of the year we approach 50%. So there will definitely be adjustments that have to be made on the part of the airlines.”

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You can't be serious. Border control can be done in lots of ways besides Orwellian insanity that destroys tourism and the airline industry in addition to making the concept of freedom a quaint part of the past.
 

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If this becomes the "new normal" for flying, the tourism industry will be permanently destroyed, especially international travel. The only people who will go through this insanity will be those who have to for business reasons, and masochists.

Future Air Travel: Four-Hour Process, Self Check-In, Disinfection, Immunity Passes

by Cecilia Rodriguez

Once airports and borders open again and people are able to fly freely — a process already in play as airports of all sizes around the world ready strategies to ensure healthy air travel — how much are you ready to change your flying habits?

As much as was required after 9/11? Less? More?

Considering some of the changes already happening and the many more recommended before airports can reopen safely to commercial routes, experts are referring to the coronavirus pandemic as ‘the new terrorism,’ triggering the biggest crisis the airline industry has ever faced.

Let’s start with the entire process of checking in for flights, which some calculate that it could take up to four hours and involving social distancing, sanitation of passengers and luggage, wider spaces for various lines and waiting to board.

Nine out of 10 experts expect slower turnarounds between flights due to the need of thorough cleaning of cabins and following of sanitary measures at airports.

What You Can Expect
Among the steps under consideration: no cabin bags, no lounges, no automatic upgrades, face masks, surgical gloves, self-check-in, self-bag-drop-off, immunity passports, on-the-spot blood tests and sanitation disinfection tunnels.

Digital technologies and automation will play a critical role in the future of air travel. The need to reduce “touchpoints” at airports implies mandatory use of biometric boarding that allows passengers to board planes with only their face as a passport.

A number of airlines including British Airways, Qantas and EasyJet already are using the technology.

1-flying-post-virus-new-normal-insanity.jpg


According to the World Travel and Tourism Council (WTTC), “the ‘new normal’ at major airports, such as Heathrow, JFK and Singapore Changi will include almost exclusive use of online check-ins, and contactless payments.

Then there are the radical changes the airports will have to make starting most probably with stopping non-fliers from entering at all except for unaccompanied minors or others who need assistance.

They will need more extensive all-biometric check-in systems and efficient DYI for dropping off bags, ‘travel bubbles,’ or tunnels for disinfection. (After being checked in, luggage may also be put through a disinfection fogging tunnel). They also must install demarcation of the spaces for social distancing in corridors and concourses, larger spaces for queues and waiting, plexiglass or other protective barriers at customer service counters, hand sanitation stations and thermal scanning to check crowds for fever-grade body temperatures, which already are in use in some major airports.

“Only those ‘fit to fly’ will be allowed to enter,” predicts the airline strategy firm SimpliFlying, in a recent report, where it identifies more than 70 different areas in the passenger journey that “are expected to either change or to be introduced from scratch, including having bags ‘sanitagged’ after going through fogging, electrostatic or UV-disinfection to restore confidence in flying after COVID-19.”

The Telegraph explains that “it may sound futuristic, but UV sanitation is likely to become commonplace at the world’s airports. London Heathrow says it is to begin trialling the process for its security trays.”

And then comes boarding
The boarding process is expected also to become ‘touchless,’ with options including facial recognition, already used in some U.S. airports for international flights. On the planes, there will be blocked seats, electrostatic spraying, personnel in protective gear and, of course, masks. Major European carriers such as Air France and KLM already have made them compulsory and it’s expected that all other airlines will do the same.

As for food, the tendency is to stop serving altogether on short-haul flights, while the airlines consider ‘light refreshments’ for long-haul flights. Hong Kong Airlines has decided to stop offering food altogether.

On Arrival
At the arrival point, SimpliFlying forecasts, international passengers will need to show some type of immunity document/passport, also advocated by the International Air Transport Association, IATA, to border control agents. Once a vaccine has been found, that could shift to a proof of vaccination.

“Arriving passengers will also undergo another temperature screening at their final destination and potentially even blood tests for COVID-19,” Conde Nast predicts. “Some airports like Hong Kong and Vienna are testing passengers for the coronavirus with a blood test before they are allowed to enter the country. Those types of tests, however, might be short-lived.”

Thermal testing is also recommended by IATA, “while Airlines UK, which represents British Airways, EasyJet and Virgin Atlantic, has said ‘pre-screening’ of travelers should be introduced ideally as early in the passenger journey as possible,” reports The Telegraph.

Although there are no standard decisions about making such tests and screening mandatory, airports and airlines are pushing for uniform regulations. It’s not clear who will be responsible for checking travelers’ temperatures and other Covid-19 symptoms, for example.

SimpliFlying predicts that a new federal health agency likely will be created to coordinate health screenings inside airports.

As immediately following 9/11, a process of trial-and-error is likely, with many airports and airlines following what some ‘pioneers’ establish.

“There will be new protocols for check-in involving digital technology; hand sanitizer stations at frequent points including where luggage is stored; contactless payment instead of cash; using stairs more often than lifts where the two-meter-rule can be harder to maintain; and fitness equipment being moved for greater separation, among other examples,” the WTTC wrote in a recent report.

The international institution says that the sector will face a gradual return to travel over the coming months as a “new normal” emerges before a vaccine becomes available on a mass scale, large enough to inoculate billions of people.

Travel is likely to return first to domestic markets with “staycations,” then to a country’s nearest neighbors before expanding across regions, and then finally across continents to welcome the return of journeys to long-haul international destinations. WTTC believes that younger travelers in the 18-35 age group, who appear to be less vulnerable to COVID-19, also may be among the first to begin traveling again.

According to Gloria Guevara, WTTC President & CEO, traveling in the ‘new normal’ age requires coordinated actions, including new standards and protocols, “for a safe and responsible road to recovery for the global Travel & Tourism sector as consumers start planning trips again.”

The new protocols and standards are being defined following feedback from associations representing the different travel sectors including International Air Transport Association (IATA), the Airport Council International (ACI), Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA), United States Travel Association (USTA), Pacific Asia Travel Association (PATA), International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO), the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), the European Travel Commission (ETC) and the World Tourism Organisation (UNWTO).

But with protocols and standards, biometric systems, immunity passports and the best intentions for a safe road to recovery, the future of traveling, as New York Times’s Niraj Chokshi explains, is still bleak: “With much of the world closed for business, and no widely available vaccine in sight, it may be months, if not years, before airlines operate as many flights as they did before the crisis. Even when people start flying again, the industry could be transformed, much as it was after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.”

And in the process, as it is already the case, some airlines, especially smaller ones, will be push into bankruptcy or become takeover targets. “Consumer fears about catching the virus on crowded planes could lead to reconfigured seating. Carriers may initially entice wary travelers with discounts, but if they can’t fill up flights, they may resort to raising ticket prices.”

For Dave CalhounIn, CEO of Boeing, not only are the smaller airlines in danger. He thinks that at least a major U.S carrier will “most likely” go out of business due to the coronavirus pandemic. In an interview with NBC News’ TODAY, on Tuesday he told Savannah Guthrie: “…something will happen when September comes around. Traffic levels will not be back to 100%. They won’t even be back to 25%. Maybe by the end of the year we approach 50%. So there will definitely be adjustments that have to be made on the part of the airlines.”

http://www.americanfreedomunion.com...s-self-check-in-disinfection-immunity-passes/
As if flying hadn't already become a loathsome experience already.

Leftists ruin everything that exists and always will as long as they exist. I have my druthers on which I prefer to continue.

I cannot fathom how any sane, rational person with any foresight would be or stay within the realm of their cronies or even think it's good for the whole of societies in the long run. And btw, the Neocons on the other side just butter the bread there too. It's bizarre how screwed we all are.

This life is temporary, folks. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ now, not later. At least your future will be set and secure. Enjoy what you can but this current life on this ball of antichrist created chaos is over and done however slowly for those of us alive right now. Our enemies won't have it any other way. We are constantly reminded of their plans daily. I see a worldwide revival but likely it's not soon. I hope and pray I'm wrong and I'd be glad of course if I am.
 

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That political prostitute Whitmer is in need of a real comeuppance and like, yesterday. There is nothing worse than a shamelessly evil female, especially in a position of power. The only thing a narcissist like her deserves is very painful consequences. I am glad I don't live in Michigan.
 

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Totalitarian Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer has extralegally imposed a fine of $1,000 on people for violating her extralegal social distancing order. Can you imagine if this tyrant had full control of the state at all times? Think Soviet Union.
 

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Totalitarian Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer has extralegally imposed a fine of $1,000 on people for violating her extralegal social distancing order. Can you imagine if this tyrant had full control of the state at all times? Think Soviet Union.
Exactly. And you can tell she is a piece of work by the way she doubles down when she gets any pushback on these draconian measures. She LOVES this virus because of the orgasm she gets from the power she wields in this whole thing. She should be cleaning horse stalls and slopping pigs.
 

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If it stops the flow of 3rd worlders into our countries then i say shut the entire airline industry down. Open borders and international globalism is what has gotten us into this mess.

Third World invaders come in over the fence, across the Rio Grande, and in trucks, vans, and cars. Few if any travel by air.

Air travel is an essential part of civilized White nations. Shutting the airline industry down will only hurt us, not (((them))).
 
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The ultimate purpose of these extremist restrictions on the airline industry is to turn flying into a thing for the elite only, and pricing out, regulating out, and bullying out the middle class from airplanes. All part of the larger plan to destroy the middle class and impose a new feudalism on the world, in which there are only lords and peasants. Before COVID-19, climate change hysteria was the most popular hammer used to discourage regular people from commercial air travel (meanwhile, of course, the elite are traveling on private jets), but now this virus has given the powers that be an even better weapon, and they're trying to make damn sure that they can keep using it even after the virus goes away. If these insane restrictions are permanently implemented as "the new normal," international vacations for middle-class families will become a thing of the past, and our lords and masters, with child-like playground-style taunting but cold-blooded and diabolical planning, will get the smug self-satisfaction of saying "ha ha, only we get to have this" to us peons.

These evil plans go far beyond anything that was implemented post-9/11. Airport security, long lines, hassles, and heavy restrictions existed before; they simply became worse after 9/11. (I remember when I was a little girl, my mom would take us kids to the airport to meet my dad when he came home from business trips. Most of the time we could go right up to the gate, but during certain periods of "elevated security" we had to wait outside the security checkpoint; those times were temporary until 9/11 made them permanent). But the measures we are being threatened with now are not so much to control the airline industry, but to actually destroy it, and turn commercial air travel into something as inaccessible for average Joes as private jets are now. I truly hope there will be pushback from travelers as well as from the airlines, with unions and management standing together as they both will have a lot to lose.

I know that a lot of white nationalists/alt-righters have the attitude of "I refuse to fly anyway because of the TSA, or whatever," which is fine if that's the way you feel, but I'm not like that. I've always enjoyed traveling, and when my children are old enough, I want to take them to Europe so they can get a look at their heritage firsthand. We should be the ones who get to decide whether or not we want to fly. Not (((them))).
 

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Third World invaders come in over the fence, across the Rio Grande, and in trucks, vans, and cars. Few if any travel by air.

Air travel is an essential part of civilized White nations. Shutting the airline industry down will only hurt us, not (((them))).



They bring them in by air too, same as they do in Australia and New Zealand and all the white western countries. Settling them in previously peaceful All-White parts of the country, like the did with the Somalis in Minneapolis. Here they bring them in from the Congo into previously all-White Maine. Don't worry, the TSA won't bother them at all, like they would you or me.

Portland, Maine, turns ‘crisis’ to ‘opportunity’ for African migrants

https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-06-17/portland-maine-turns-crisis-opportunity-african-migrants
 
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Some politicians, like the governors of California, Michigan, Illinois, and New York, along with those in charge of L.A. County and their insane three-month quarantine extension, are absolutely drunk with power right now. They're pushing further and further, trying to see just how much they can get away with. They'd keep their populations locked down forever if they could. A group of little Stalins is what describes them best.

On the positive side, the eight states that never issued statewide mandatory quarantines should be recognized and praised: Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming (although some local jurisdictions enacted stay-at-home orders, such as Jackson, the liberal armpit of otherwise conservative Wyoming; many rich Californians have vacation homes there). Curiously, none of those states have a particularly high number of COVID-19 cases. A glance at the CDC map of the U.S. shows that Arkansas and Oklahoma have lower numbers than all the states surrounding them. Meanwhile, the Bolshevik-style restrictions in states like Michigan and Illinois certainly don't have a lot to show for themselves, considering their high case rates and death counts.

One rather interesting thing of note - some states are placing special restrictions and quarantine requirements on travelers arriving from the NYC area (New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut). Given that these restrictions will overwhelmingly affect those of the liberal persuasion, it's a little amusing to see them be treated as pariahs and get a taste of their own medicine.
 
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They bring them in by air too, same as they do in Australia and New Zealand and all the white western countries. Settling them in previously peaceful All-White parts of the country, like the did with the Somalis in Minneapolis. Here they bring them in from the Congo into previously all-White Maine. Don't worry, the TSA won't bother them at all, like they would you or me.

Portland, Maine, turns ‘crisis’ to ‘opportunity’ for African migrants

https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-06-17/portland-maine-turns-crisis-opportunity-african-migrants

Then the solution is to ban Turd World migration to First World countries, not ban First Worlders from taking vacations and living their lives. ;)
 

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Elon Musk was the Man of the Hour today in California. Great commentary about it here:
 

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77 year old Michigan barber standing tough:
 
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