Coming Financial Crisis Worse Than ’29?

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DixieDestroyer said:
Unemployment rate for Americans 16-24 skyrockets to 52%!!!

The "Dead-End" Kids...

Oh its bad out there, very bad. My brother who's in high school cannot even find a minimum wage job and he's filled out 30+ applications. I mean come on give me a break. Another family member graduated college in May and just found a job three weeks ago...too bad its a temp job for only 4 months. Another friend graduated last year with a bachelors in marketing and still cannot find a job. It's just shame. I am in that age bracket and very thankful to be working full time.

Thanks Federal Reserve.
 

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At the end of 2010 beginning of 2011 a huge amount of ARM loans will escalate to near 7 or 8 percent. Then in 2013 another large group of ARM loans will shoot through the roof. The foreclosures will be astounding!

Many will or already have buyers remorse on this lost socialist amature BARACK. The real estate market willl pummelment. I just hope all Americans black, white, brown or green! Will WTF up and see this fool as well as most of the Demos are poison to us!
 

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White CB me too. Tell your friend to seriously consider the military, especially as an Officer. It is going to get alot worse, before it gets better, trust me. I did back in 1989 and never regretted it!
 

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White CB me too. Tell your friend to seriously consider the military, especially as an Officer. It is going to get alot worse, before it gets better, trust me. I did back in 1989 and never regretted it!

yeah but with all of our involvements in the middle east, a la Iraq and Afghanistan, i don't think the military is a good sell right now. yeah they need bodies like mad but the odds that you come back in a bag are that much higher as well. also please explain how you just become an "officer". that seems like the job to get.
 

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Is it intentional because the PTB in the US want to destroy our economy by destroying the value of the dollar? Seems like a counterproductive way to usher in the NWO, but I'm no expert on these things. I do know that gold is up to $1,063.50 an ounce today, and silver is at $17.82.
 

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Colonel_Reb said:
Is it intentional because the PTB in the US want to destroy our economy by destroying the value of the dollar? Seems like a counterproductive way to usher in the NWO, but I'm no expert on these things. I do know that gold is up to $1,063.50 an ounce today, and silver is at $17.82. 

It's a mechanism to bottom-out the U.S. dollar so a "global currency" (ala - Amero, Euro,etc.) can then be ushered in. The Globalist Elite know full well the greatest threat to their Orwellian, Global dystopia is (our remaining) Republic...so they seek to wipe out the Middle Class (via fiat currency, fractional reserve banking, constant tinkering wth usury rates, NINJA loans, Corporate Welfare, mass insourcing of H-1B visa workers & outsourcing of the American manufacturing base). To remove a large potential threat to the NWO plans, the American middle/working class had to be (economically) put down. The Elite think by financially destabilizing those who could (potentially) stand against their tyranny, they can more easily implement Global governance & currency...thereby "softening" us up (economically).


A 2nd Great Depression Looming

The Real Battle Over America's Banking System
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Well double digit unemployment has hit America, welcome to France. Next up is Portugal..... Here is a wire story...
U.S. unemployment hits 26-year high of 10.2%
Rate increases by 0.4 percentage points
Last Updated: Friday, November 6, 2009 | 12:05 PM ET Comments121Recommend44
CBC News

The U.S. unemployment rate rose to 10.2 per cent in October from 9.8 per cent, as non-farm payroll employment declined by 190,000.
Jobs brochures are seen on display at a state unemployment office in Sunnyvale, California. The U.S. unemployment rate his 10.2 per cent in October.Jobs brochures are seen on display at a state unemployment office in Sunnyvale, California. The U.S. unemployment rate his 10.2 per cent in October. (Paul Sakuma/Associated Press)

The number of unemployed persons increased by 558,000, to 15.7 million, during the month, the U.S. Bureau of Labour Statistics said Friday.

Since December 2007, the number of unemployed persons has risen by 8.2 million, and the unemployment rate has grown by 5.3 percentage points. It's also the 22nd consecutive month that the U.S. economy has lost jobs.

U.S. unemployment is now at its highest level since the rate hit 10.2 per cent in April 1983. The all-time high since the government began keeping records was six months earlier in November 1982.

"History tells us that job growth always lags behind economic growth, which is why we have to continue to pursue measures that will create new jobs," U.S. President Barack Obama said in reaction to the latest jobs numbers.

On Friday, Obama signed a bill to extend unemployment benefits, for up to 20 additional weeks, with the longest extensions for hardest-hit states. Under current laws, most states provide for 26 weeks of benefits.
Jobless recovery

The data adds credence that the United States is in the midst of a "jobless recovery" where certain economic indicators begin on a positive trend, but individuals don't feel any of the positive economic activity.

Last week, official data revealed that the U.S. economy expanded at a 3.5 per cent annualized rate last quarter, built on the back of government spending.

"[But] you need explosive growth to take the unemployment rate down," said Dan Greenhaus, chief economic strategist for New York-based investment firm Miller Tabak&Co.

The last time employment fell so precipitously in the early 1980s, he notes, it took an economy expanding by nearly 8 per cent in 1983 to lower the jobless rate by 2.5 percentage points that year.

The job losses were widespread in October, with construction, manufacturing and retail all posting losses.

Health-care employment was a bright spot, increasing by 29,000 jobs in October. Since the start of the recession, health care has added 597,000 jobs.

The number of those jobless for 27 weeks or more was little changed over the month at 5.6 million. Known as the "long-term unemployed" the figure represents 35.6 per cent of the total number of unemployed persons.
 

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The real unemployment rate is far beyond the (watered down) 10.2% reported by the shills at the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Corsi estimates it at 22.1% (more realistic), but it feels like 25-30%+ (and growing daily).
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Real Unemployment Rate 22%+....and Climbing!

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More sobering financial news...
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The worst is yet to come: Unemployed Americans should hunker down for more job losses

BY Nouriel Roubini

Sunday, November 15th 2009, 4:00 AM

Think the worst is over? Wrong. Conditions in the U.S. labor markets are awful and worsening. While the official unemployment rate is already 10.2% and another 200,000 jobs were lost in October, when you include discouraged workers and partially employed workers the figure is a whopping 17.5%.

While losing 200,000 jobs per month is better than the 700,000 jobs lost in January, current job losses still average more than the per month rate of 150,000 during the last recession.

Also, remember: The last recession ended in November 2001, but job losses continued for more than a year and half until June of 2003; ditto for the 1990-91 recession.

So we can expect that job losses will continue until the end of 2010 at the earliest. In other words, if you are unemployed and looking for work and just waiting for the economy to turn the corner, you had better hunker down. All the economic numbers suggest this will take a while. The jobs just are not coming back.

There's really just one hope for our leaders to turn things around: a bold prescription that increases the fiscal stimulus with another round of labor-intensive, shovel-ready infrastructure projects, helps fiscally strapped state and local governments and provides a temporary tax credit to the private sector to hire more workers. Helping the unemployed just by extending unemployment benefits is necessary not sufficient; it leads to persistent unemployment rather than job creation.

The long-term picture for workers and families is even worse than current job loss numbers alone would suggest. Now as a way of sharing the pain, many firms are telling their workers to cut hours, take furloughs and accept lower wages. Specifically, that fall in hours worked is equivalent to another 3 million full time jobs lost on top of the 7.5 million jobs formally lost.

This is very bad news but we must face facts. Many of the lost jobs are gone forever, including construction jobs, finance jobs and manufacturing jobs. Recent studies suggest that a quarter of U.S. jobs are fully out-sourceable over time to other countries.

Other measures tell the same ugly story: The average length of unemployment is at an all time high; the ratio of job applicants to vacancies is 6 to 1; initial claims are down but continued claims are very high and now millions of unemployed are resorting to the exceptional extended unemployment benefits programs and are staying in them longer.

Based on my best judgment, it is most likely that the unemployment rate will peak close to 11% and will remain at a very high level for two years or more.

The weakness in labor markets and the sharp fall in labor income ensure a weak recovery of private consumption and an anemic recovery of the economy, and increases the risk of a double dip recession.

As a result of these terribly weak labor markets, we can expect weak recovery of consumption and economic growth; larger budget deficits; greater delinquencies in residential and commercial real estate and greater fall in home and commercial real estate prices; greater losses for banks and financial institutions on residential and commercial real estate mortgages, and in credit cards, auto loans and student loans and thus a greater rate of failures of banks; and greater protectionist pressures.

The damage will be extensive and severe unless bold policy action is undertaken now.

Roubini is professor of Economics at the Stern School of Business at New York University and Chairman of Roubini Global Economics.

Top economic prognosticator says job seekers must face grim economic facts.

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More "warnings" from the JewFed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/29/business/economy/29fed.html



WASHINGTON â€" The chairman of the Federal Reserve Board
warned bluntly on Saturday that provisions in financial legislation
before the House and Senate would "seriously impair"Â￾ the Fed as it
struggled to maintain financial and economic stability.
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In a column published on The Washington Post's Web site and scheduled to appear on the op-ed page on Sunday, the chairman, Ben S. Bernanke,
sharply criticized a Senate provision that he said "would strip the Fed
of all its bank regulatory powers"Â￾ and a House provision to repeal a
30-year-old law "to protect monetary policy from short-term political
influence."Â￾

The Federal Reserve's jurisdiction to regulate banks
has come under increasing attack in Congress in recent months,
reflecting the anger of voters at the huge taxpayer costs of the
bailout of Wall Street.

Mr. Bernanke repeated, as he has many times before, that while some of the measures in response to the financial crisis were "distasteful and unfair,"Â￾ they were necessary.

The
White House and senior Democratic lawmakers in both the House and the
Senate have proposed eliminating the Fed's current role of setting the
rules for products like mortgages and credit cards. Instead, officials
have proposed a new federal consumer financial protection agency to
both set and enforce rules over such products.

The op-ed article was part of Mr. Bernanke's running campaign to preserve the Fed's powers and independence as the system of financial regulation
is overhauled. In the past, it would have been unusual for a Fed
chairman to make such pointed remarks in a public forum, but Mr.
Bernanke has been more outspoken than most.

"Now more than ever,
America needs a strong, nonpolitical and independent central bank with
the tools to promote financial stability and to help steer our economy
to recovery without inflation,"Â￾ he said.

And when it comes to
monetary policy, he said, "independent does not mean unaccountable."Â￾ He
said the actions of the Fed were already thoroughly reviewed and needed
to be protected from Congressional influence, "which would undermine
the confidence the public and the markets have in the Fed."Â￾

A
House committee has already completed its first draft of the
legislation, while a companion measure has been introduced in the
Senate but not approved by a committee.
 

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this is a long read, but i think it's well worth the time. it's an excellent summary of the mess we're in andsome potential futures that we're likely facing.

Source: Market Oracle - Craig Harris

The Future of the United States, Sysemic Fraud, Corruption, and Financial Instability
Published 01-03-2010

Craig Harris writes: As we close out 2009 and look forward into 2010 and beyond, this has been a year of near financial catastrophe and monumental change, none of which benefited America or ordinary Americans. Late in 2008 and throughout 2009, events have happened in the US which would have been labeled unfathomable just a few short years ago, and yet already these monumental changes are expected to be filed into the memory hole and Americans are expected to believe nothing has changed.

As we exit the year, we are told the US is a laissez-faire free market economy and yet the US government is now the largest owner of housing in the US as well as the owner of last resort for some of the largest and completely insolvent US corporations. The Federal Reserve, a privately and anonymously owned and controlled corporation chartered with issuing the nations currency, were given the green light by themselves to transfer to themselves and their shareholders the people's wealth in the form of their future labor. The FED balance sheet has ballooned to become a junk bond warehouse as they overtly and covertly buy their own debt, immune from any sort of oversight, regulation or auditing and operating above the law. Along with that, increasingly coercive brute force measures are now routinely necessary to manage and manipulate so called "free market" asset prices which are cheerled by so called "financial news media" whose board members and management are all the same people who transferred the people's wealth to themselves. The corporate media party line idea of a "free market US economy" now seems like a distant memory and it all feels like systemic fraud, corruption, malfeasance and organized crime at the very highest levels.

During 2009 we have seen the continued collapse of American industry amid wave after wave of layoffs. The corrupt corporate media cartel likes to trot out a group of FED sponsored shills who call themselves "professors" to call this a "jobless recovery" although it's difficult to imagine a recovery where American industry has collapsed and is now owned by the government. US cities both large and small have been decimated by the loss of the US manufacturing base. Detroit now resembles a third world country with a 50% unemployment rate. Ransacked, foreclosed houses go for a dollar apparently because no one who has a choice is willing to own property or live there. The US has an officially stated unemployment rate of ten percent and a real unemployment rate of over 20 percent. Wall Street may have recovered due to a direct injection of capital from the future labor of the people, but there has been no action taken whatsoever to improve the situation of the average citizen as the disconnect between the ruling Oligarchs and Wall Street, the real economy and the lives of ordinary Americans continues to widen. The people's bailout money, which represents the future labor of Americans, went directly into the pockets of the people who created the crisis in the first place because they are in the enviable position of being "too big to fail". Interestingly, or sadly, the same people and institutions responsible for and who profited from the catastrophe are still in charge and have handed even more power and control to themselves. Although there has been talk in Washington of "too big to fail" being undesirable, the result of the post collapse policies have resulted in ever fewer, ever larger players with more power and control and instead of being "too big to fail" now wield so much money and power that they demonstrate wholesale ownership of the entire US political body.

Due to the post collapse monetary and fiscal policies, the people have now been saddled up with an unpayable level of debt. The cause of the near total collapse of the financial system was too much debt and the "solution" has has been even more debt piled on to the original debt. During the year, the Dallas FED estimated the financial obligations of the US government at 99 trillion dollars. The head of the TARP program estimated the bailout cost at 24 trillion dollars. Totaled together the US has in the neighborhood of 120 trillion dollars of current and future obligations on an annual revenue of around 2 trillion dollars which is falling due to high unemployment, higher state and local taxes and fees and lower wages. Cutting that down to size, imagine earning 200,000 a year and having a debt of 12 million dollars. In short, the US dollar has become a token of an unpayable debt and thus the anchor of the entire global financial system is a ponzi fraud. It becomes impossible to compute the value of anything as measured in a fraudulent currency that represents an unpayable debt.

The banking system is not lending money because it's still insolvent. The people, having lost over 5 trillion dollars in the real estate bust are also collectively insolvent. Many US states and cities are bankrupt or near bankrupt. One in nine Americans subsist on food stamps. Even as a college education has become unaffordable to most Americans, college graduates now find themselves jobless. One in seven households now have their adult children living back at home due to the inability to find a job. The homeless population is growing and tent cities sprouted up across America during 2009. The estimated homeless population in LA alone is 40,000 people a night. People in the US if they have a job are working longer and harder to make the same income. Wages have remained stagnant and the real cost of living continues to spiral ever higher for ordinary Americans. The new man in charge, elected on a platform of "change", has delivered his change in the form of change=no change, or how do you like your change now?

By any metric you choose, whether it's the median home costing half the median income even at artificially low interest rates, to the ballooning cost of insurance, healthcare, education or anything else people spend their money on, the US is experiencing a rapid decline in the standard of living for ordinary Americans and an emerging ultra rich ultra powerful shadow oligarch rule amid a generalized and widespread financial and social decay. The US population is becoming a nation of voiceless serfs with fewer and fewer remaining civil and property rights and a rapidly decaying standard of living, the antitheses of everything America is said to represent and strive for.

The hypocrisy and fraud of the oligarch rule corporate media story line is now nearly impossible for an educated, informed adult to digest. As Jim Grant pointed out recently, according to Section 19 of the Coinage Act of 1792, the penalty prescribed for any official who fraudulently debased the people's money is death, yet in 2009 debasing the people's money resulted in a "man of the year" award from the self serving corporate media who will be next in line for a bailout from the people for their good service to the new oligarch rule. This organized crime, this theft, occurring right out in the open, may explain why employees of the largest US financial institution are now not allowed to gather in groups larger than 12 outside and their executives are carrying firearms. In an affront to the intelligence and sensibility of any citizen of this planet, the new US president expanded a war he was elected to end and started a new frontier in Pakistan, for that he was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize. The people who were awarded hundreds of billions of dollars of the people's money because they lost all their money are skimming millions and billions off the top for themselves and their associates in what they call "bonuses". 2009 has been a year of egregious assault on the American public by the people in charge.

The "people's representatives" as they like to be called, no longer represent the people at all but instead solely represent and pledge allegiance to the special interests and corporate lobbyists who have bought and paid for their votes, along with the media oligarchs who control who sits in the seats. Regardless of whether they call themselves Democrats or Republicans, they are a group of self important, self serving, morally bankrupt, corrupt, clueless buffoons and criminals running unchecked by a complicit corporate media.

Every American should be ashamed, embarrassed and sad that their country has been bought and sold to an organized criminal enterprise which includes the entire political body and the media. The only thing the "people's representatives" have in common is contempt for the people they are ostensibly representing. It is revolting for any American to watch these cretins heaping praise Ben Bernanke at the congressional theater of the absurd. His institution has already debased the dollar by 95% and failed miserably in every mandate they had since they took over in 1913. If any American has managed to retain or save any money, he can now put it on deposit in their banking system and earn a negative real return (a loss of his purchasing power) while at the same time the banks will take his deposit and loan it to his brother at 30% interest. So Mr Bernanke the money printer has control over the largest legal loan sharking operation ever concocted and it is funded by the America people, against the America people.

During 2009, the leadership has taken actions which benefit the corporations and special interests who own them, while showing nothing but wanton disregard for the millions of citizens whose lives their sponsors have destroyed. What we are headed towards in the US if we are not there already, is a Straussian society of ultra rich, ultra powerful oligarchs and a serfish powerless population with no middle class to speak of. The US president De Jour is, and from here on out will be a yes man, subservient to the ultra powerful too big to fail oligarchs who control the money and power and are responsible for putting him in the drivers seat. This is not compatible whatsoever with prosperity, democracy or anything else the US still holds itself out as. Here at the end of 2009, the United States has morphed into a bankrupt fascist oligarchy which owns the military machine as a policy enforcement tool, the entire political body and the media. It isn't going to fix itself because the fraud, corruption and malfeasance is systemic. It meets every definition of organized crime and it's all happening right out in the open.

In my way of thinking, this is not at all unlike the breakdown of the Soviet Union where for a period of time a sort of mafia of oligarchs weilded the wealth and power, carved up the remaining wealth of the country among themselves and had their way with the country amid a climate of manufactured fear, chaos and decay. The key point being that the people in control are out to make money and increase their power at the expense of the citizens. Mr Orwell said "the purpose of power is power" and that statement needs to be well understood. These megalomaniac, sociopathic aspirations of ever more power and control by an elitist group of criminals come at the expense of America and future Americans. It doesn't matter whatsoever to the oligarchs because they have property waiting in Croatia. When the remaining wealth has been extracted from America, they will all pull out and the citizens will be left with a rusted out bankrupt hull. I believe the circumstances for this eventuality have already been created, just not yet realized due to the enormous size of the economy and the momentum it has. In other words, I believe it's collapsing as fast as it can although living through it seems like slow motion. When viewed from the future in a historical context however, I think it will have seemed fairly rapid.

The financial markets have deteriorated into a Las Vegas casino atmosphere where the the only consistent winners are the house and the too big to fail entities trading on foreknowledge and inside information shared freely between the treasury and the few remaining large trading houses. The entire system is bankrupt, fraudulent, corrupt and irretrievably broken. The anchor of the global financial system, the US dollar, has become the worlds largest ponzi scheme and the remaining 95% of the worlds population would like a new, viable standard. At this point however, despite any action the FED may or may not take, the US debt is far too large to ever be repaid. It is questionable if the interest payments will even be serviceable if interest rates were to rise, and the only reason interest rates are low is because the FED is using brute force. At this time the only way out without a complete collapse is to inflate away the debt, thus turning a deflationary collapse into a long period of inflationary decay and declining standard of living.

I have been of the opinion that what we saw in October 2008 was a collapse of the global fiat financial system which was more or less expected due to the collapse of the real estate bubble. I have reminded my subscribers that when I was forecasting a drop in real estate prices of as much as 50% during the heyday of the mania, that sounded unfathomable. What I believe is in store for our future sounds nearly as unfathomable now as that idea did back then. I believe the reason it sounds unfathomable is due to the constant barrage of lies, misinformation and propaganda from the tight knit corporate media oligarchy which has essentially merged with the new power structure of the US in a corrupt, overt form of fascism that would make Mussolini blush or Goebbels the propagandist nod in approval.

Over a period of decades and with one FED induced serial bubble after another, the financial system finally reached an unsustainable level of debt and leverage in 2008. When the FED started raising interest rates, when the real estate bubble burst, it involved so much debt and leverage that the whole system failed, pricing models and risk models failed, and the banking system quickly became insolvent.

I believe we have already had a systemic collapse, and the only thing the FED can do now is alter the look and feel of the collapse and to manage the allocation of the remaining wealth. In the end, whether by deflationary collapse or inflationary decay, the result of the collapse will feel the same to the US general population regardless of the interim path taken.

If the FED had done nothing, the whole system would have quickly degenerated into a deflationary collapse and failure of the financial system due to insolvency. The course the FED chose however is the one myself and many others predicted beforehand...the FED chose to solve the problem of too much debt by creating even more debt by taking the unprecedented action of buying it's own debt under euphemisms like "quantitative easing" and "debt monetization" and also covert buying to artificially force negative real return rates of interest. Through this course of action, the FED so far has been able to turn what would have been a rapid deflationary collapse into a decaying inflationary depression which is euphemistically called "a recession that is now over" by the six people who control 96% of the global media and attempt to pass off propaganda as "news" to a woefully mis informed, dumbed down and apathetic general public.

Going forward, If the FED doesn't buy enough of their own debt, then interest rates on the long end would rise and the risk becomes a deflationary collapse into insolvency for the FED and it's banking system. If interest rates remain effectively at zero on the short end and artificially suppressed by quantitative easing on the long end, then the real estate market can recover and the banks can regain solvency. If interest rates rise as the free markets would argue for however, then the real estate market sinks even further, the US dollar rises, and greater insolvency of the banks follows. The higher interest rates go, the thinner the knife edge gets and the FED would quickly find itself staring into another October 2008 collapse kind of situation. On the other hand, if by buying enough of their own debt they can keep short and long term interest rates down, then the free money percolates through the banking system, puts pressure on the dollar, lifts commodity and real estate prices and pulls out of the collapse via inflating away the debt so long as they can avoid run away hyperinflation in the process. This is the path we have traveled throughout 2009.

The key point is that the FED has had the option of doing two things...creating even more debt in order to save itself and the banking system, or do nothing and watch themselves collapse into a mass of failure, loss of power and control, insolvency and domino style bankruptcy and default. They have chosen the expected course, which is to increase the debt and print money, which is the way they save themselves and their banking system. In short, given a choice between saving the people and saving themselves after a collapse, they have taken the expected course which is to attempt to save themselves. What else would you expect? If they had wanted to save the people they would have taken the peoples bailout money and handed it to them in the form of a check. Instead they handed it to the banks.

Although they have been somewhat successful in reducing the insolvency of the banking system, they have effectively created a giant wealth transfer mechanism whereby all the money that disappeared in the collapse was re created out of thin air and given to the banks and wall street. I think of it as a sort of shell game. The money disappeared from Mom and Pop's 401k and re appeared on the balance sheets of the banks via freshly created new money (debt). As a result, we have something still called "free market capitalism" which is not free market capitalism at all. We have emerged from this crisis with a sort of financial oligarchy where a few entities who control all the wealth and power also control politics and media. Understanding this will help to understand issues like "healthcare reform" which will involve you paying more and getting less, with the primary beneficiaries being the oligarchies who control health care and insurance.

The one major point I have to make at this time is throughout 2009, there was no action taken that put the average citizen in a better position, but instead during the course of the year there was a gigantic wealth transfer from the citizens to the banking system, effectively orchestrated by the so called "people's representatives" who are in fact, all owned by the banking system and Wall Street with half a dozen or so oligarchies and lobbyists in a public display of fraud, malfeasance and corruption that sets a new historical precedent.

I have been and remain of the opinion that the ultimate "solution" to this crisis will be for the entities who now control the wealth and power to accumulate even more wealth and power via a global central bank and global currency which now for the first time in public has been discussed on and off throughout 2009 and described as the New World Order by such luminaries as Henry Kissinger. So looking out beyond 2010, I see a new global reserve currency emerging and a global central bank which will effectively also be a global governing authority where the heads of state effectively report to the group of central bankers and their anonymous shareholders who effectively control the money, power and politicians on a global scale. When the global currency is introduced, only then do I expect a sort of collapse of the US dollar versus this global currency. In this way, the world can carry on while the former global reserve currency called the US dollar will be free to depreciate to a level where solvency is regained and the now unpayable US debt is inflated away to the point where it can be repaid in depreciated dollars. US citizens will experience a continued decay as the US becomes to resemble more and more, a third world country. Detroit is already there. The corporate media won't show it to you but if you do a youtube search on Detroit what you see will shock you.

My view of the world tends to be the long view. Throughout 2009 I have been positioned and trading invarious hard assets including but not limited to gold silver, back month crude oil, Soybeans, raw land and Americana. I own and trade some Chinese shares but no US equities or bonds. I have lost confidence in the US leadership. I have lost confidence in the fairness of the "system" where some elite entities are free to keep the profits and nationalize their losses. I have opted to opt out by embarking on a long term effort to transfer more and more capital "off wall street" and their organized crime ring they call the banking system, and instead investing in things without fraudulent or impaired balance sheets. At some point in the future, I want to be short US 10 and 30 year bonds because it is nonsensical to me that anyone would be willing to loan a bankrupt country money for 30 years at an interest rate of 4% or so. The only reason this situation exists today is due to the FED monetizing debt and attempting to manipulate the long end using brute force.

So as we head off into 2010, I see a lot of uncertainty in the short term. If interest rates rise and the US dollar gets stronger, by mid year I would expect a repeat of October 2008. What I expect to happen over the longer term however is that the FED will ultimately print enough money to attempt to slowly inflate the debt away to a manageable amount amid a generalized and severe decay in terms of the standard of living for Average Americans. At some point along the line, I expect the world reserve currency role to be moved into a global currency and for the US dollar to be allowed to float against it without the benefits associated with the world currency role, and for the US standard of living to continue to decline and eventually decay into a societal collapse followed by something different. I expect China to emerge as the dominant economic power in the world and to purchase a large amount of US assets. Somewhere along the line I also expect the Nobel Peace Prize recipient to bomb Iran because he will be ordered to do so by the people who control the money.

Personally, based on what I see coming over the long term I have elected to forego city life and have embarked on a long term project in the picturesque Appalachian foothills in an effort to increase my degree of self sufficiency and insulate myself from the continued decay and declining standard of living sweeping the country. My long view for the US is high inflation which will not show up in the government's fraudulent statistics, along with a declining standard of living, increasing decay and ultimately leading to chaos, societal and government collapse in the US within a decade or two, maybe sooner.

I would like to end by quoting Marc Faber with one of the most compelling quotes of 2009. I find this quote compelling because the price of anything as measured by a fraudulent standard is meaningless. To me, it is a gift to be able to still exchange US dollars for anything with real value.

"I would buy every three months some gold and not worry so much about the price because the weight stays the same"
 

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was linked to a couple of short youtube clips of an interview with Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster. i don't know anything about him, so if any of you do please share.
that being said, the two short clips had a very erie feeling ...

A NEW Dollar: Fed insider says our current dollars are about to devalued and replaced.

War with Dubai? An insider says the game is on.

again, i don't know the reliability of the source, but i thought i'd pass it on for you more knowledgable economics guys to discuss.
 

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also, in case no one else has noticed (and who can blame you if you didn't, since it's not being reported by the MSM), "our" representatives in D.C. recently voted to raise the debt ceiling, and are about to do it again ...this is supposedly "good news" i'm sure, because "technically" the US gov't isn't in default.
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The mass downfall continues...


America slides deeper into depression as Wall $treet revels

December was the worst month for US unemployment since the Great Recession began.


By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Published: 6:35PM GMT 10 Jan 2010


The labour force contracted by 661,000. This did not show up in the headline jobless rate because so many Americans dropped out of the system. The broad U6 category of unemployment rose to 17.3pc. That is the one that matters.

Wall Street rallied. Bulls hope that weak jobs data will postpone monetary tightening: a silver lining in every catastrophe, or perhaps a further exhibit of market infantilism.

The home foreclosure guillotine usually drops a year or so after people lose their job, and exhaust their savings. The local sheriff will escort them out of the door, often with some sympathy â€"â€" just like the police in 1932, mostly Irish Catholics who tithed 1pc of their pay for soup kitchens.

Realtytrac says defaults and repossessions have been running at over 300,000 a month since February. One million American families lost their homes in the fourth quarter. Moody's Economy.com expects another 2.4m homes to go this year. Taken together, this looks awfully like Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath.

Judges are finding ways to block evictions. One magistrate in Minnesota halted a case calling the creditor "harsh, repugnant, shocking and repulsive". We are not far from a de facto moratorium in some areas.

This is how it ended between 1932 and 1934, when half the US states declared moratoria or "Farm Holidays". Such flexibility innoculated America's democracy against the appeal of Red Unions and Coughlin Fascists. The home siezures are occurring despite frantic efforts by the Obama administration to delay the process.

This policy is entirely justified given the scale of the social crisis. But it also masks the continued rot in the housing market, allows lenders to hide losses, and stores up an ever larger overhang of unsold properties. It takes heroic naivety to think the US housing market has turned the corner (apologies to Goldman Sachs, as always). The fuse has yet to detonate on the next mortgage bomb, $134bn (£83bn) of "option ARM" contracts due to reset violently upwards this year and next.

US house prices have eked out five months of gains on the Case-Shiller index, but momentum stalled in October in half the cities even before the latest surge of 40 basis points in mortgage rates. Karl Case (of the index) says prices may sink another 15pc. "If the 2008 and 2009 loans go bad, then we're back where we were before â€" in a nightmare."

David Rosenberg from Gluskin Sheff said it is remarkable how little traction has been achieved by zero rates and the greatest fiscal blitz of all time. The US economy grew at a 2.2pc rate in the third quarter (entirely due to Obama stimulus). This compares to an average of 7.3pc in the first quarter of every recovery since the Second World War.

Fed hawks are playing with fire by talking up about exit strategies, not for the first time. This is what they did in June 2008. We know what happened three months later. For the record, manufacturing capacity use at 67.2pc, and "auto-buying intentions" are the lowest ever.

The Fed's own Monetary Multiplier crashed to an all-time low of 0.809 in mid-December. Commercial paper has shrunk by $280bn ($175bn) in since October. Bank credit has been racing down a hair-raising black run since June. It has dropped from $10.844 trillion to $9.013 trillion since November 25. The MZM money supply is contracting at a 3pc annual rate. Broad M3 money is contracting at over 5pc.

Professor Tim Congdon from International Monetary Research said the Fed is baking deflation into the pie later this year, and perhaps a double-dip recession. Europe is even worse.

This has not stopped an army of commentators is trying to bounce the Fed into early rate rises. They accuse Ben Bernanke of repeating the error of 2004 when the Fed waited too long. Sometimes you just want to scream. In 2004 there was no housing collapse, unemployment was 5.5pc, banks were in rude good health, and the Fed Multiplier was 1.73.

How anybody can see imminent inflation in the dying embers of core PCE, just 0.1pc in November, is beyond me.

Mr Rosenberg is asked by clients why Wall Street does not seem to agree with his grim analysis.

His answer is that this is the same Mr Market that bought stocks in October 1987 when they were 25pc overvalued on Shiller "10-year normalized earnings basis" â€" exactly as they are today â€" and bought them at even more overvalued prices in 2007, long after the property crash had begun, Bear Stearns funds had imploded, and credit had its August heart attack. The stock market has become a lagging indicator. Tear up the textbooks.

***Reference article

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Well we have an update on the"Chinese Warren Buffett". He's broke and needs Welfare err Financial Aid to defend himself against stock fraud....Accused Ponzi schemer is broke, lawyer says

Updated: Thu Jan. 14 2010 1:32:39 PM

The Canadian Press

TORONTO â€" The lawyer for a Toronto-based financial adviser who returned from China to face fraud charges says his client is broke and will need legal aid.

Weizhen Tang is in court today after returning to Canada to face allegations he defrauded investors of tens of millions of dollars.

But his lawyer, Loftus Cuddy, says he won't be representing Tang for long since he "doesn't have any money" and will have to apply for legal aid.

Tang, 51, was taken into custody when his Air Canada flight arrived at Pearson International Airport on Wednesday evening.

Today, Tang made a brief appearance in court before the case was put over until later in the afternoon, when a decision will be made on whether his bail hearing will begin today or at a later date.

Loftus says it will take a substantial sum to get Tang released -- likely around six figures.

Toronto police had issued a Canada-wide arrest warrant for Tang, who has been charged with fraud over $5,000.

The fraud warrant is in addition to 12 counts of breaching the Securities Act laid against Tang last June by the Ontario Securities Commission in connection with the hedge fund Tang administers, the Oversea Chinese Fund Limited Partnership.

The lawyer says Tang is "happy to be back in Canada" and described him as "cheerful" today.

It's alleged that between January 2006 and March 2009, more than 100 victims were defrauded of approximately $30 million through an online trading Ponzi scheme.

Toronto police allege there were victims in the United States, China and Canada, including one Toronto-area resident who allegedly lost $2.4 million.
 

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Yes this could be a double dip recession. Already real estate markets in major Canadian cities are back above 2008 peaks and the lemming buyers are diving in head first. Some forecasters are saying their could be a bad correction if it's a true double dip recession. Edited by: white is right
 

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Curious how just about every time the stock market has a serious downturn, precious metals decline in price right along with it, which is completely counter-intuitive. The price of silver is down more than 6% the past two days. Those who have studied it, Ted Butler being the best known, have maintained for many years that the silver market is rigged by the big banks manipulating the shorts. It certainly seems that way. Butlerkeeps maintaining that the manipulation can't continue much longer, especially because a serious silver shortage is developing as silver, unlike gold, has many industrial uses and the demand for it in countries like China and India is growing, with the result thatthe supply is disappearing and thus the price can't be artificially suppressed much longer.
 

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Don, I have noticed this manipulation of silver a lot over the past year as well. One thing to keep in mind is that there is a lot of dealing in precious metal stocks, not just bullion. Even so, it is still counter-intuitive. Silver will spike upwards once the truth gets out about how rare it really has become. The bankers won't be able to control that. Last year, I read that the average U.S. household owns less than 3 ounces of silver, so most people will be in for a rude awakening when our fiat currency finally hits the floor.
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Don, I'm no expert on the silver manipulation thing, but I just read something that seemed to explain it pretty well. I'll have reread it with questions in mind such as why do they manipulate the silver price? What is the intent?

The how I think I've got:

ETF's or paper silver. ETF's are large bank created instruments created to sell paper silver with the promise of future delivery. Except no one really gets the delivery of actual silver. Think Bernie Madoff. People put their money in for something that only exists on paper. To deal with the obvious rise in silver demand all our the banks have to do is create accounts and sell silver on more paper. It's like selling short. Just create more paper silver and sell it to meet demand. Anyways, JP Morgan is behind the SLV (the main silver ETF) and Goldman Sachs also seems to be heavily involved. Red flags everywhere. Since most of the market and bubble economy appears to be based on Ponzi scheme formula (think icesave), this explanation certainly seems plausible.

Buy physical silver. Buying the ETF is only being a tool of the banks. They have tricked the world into buying ETF's instead of the actual metal. Can't wait to see the first of these to go insolvent and exposed as fraud.
 
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