Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80!

[mastermulti]

I can't wait to see a breakdown of his 10 metre splits, but I guess you got to be in a big final for that to happen... and not always then!

I guess he's doing .83 to .84 second per fastest 10 m splits but I'd like to see how they vary and which ones (if any) are weaknesses in his 100 run.

Master, being a Frenchman is there any way you could find this information out, or if anything has been gathered scientifically about his splits yet?

 

[Sub10.00]

I highly doubt the .83/.84 I don't think Powell even split .83 in his 9.84 Berlin run. I'l guess .85 the most and likely .86. Unless he had an awful start (Can't really tell from the video)I'llsay .85/.86 max.

 

[Sub10.00]

Any new Info on his next races, anyone?

 

[mastermulti]

that's why I want to see all those splits... even one of around .83-.84 would indicate his pure speed vis-a-vis the best people.

Bolt had 3 x .83s, 2 x .82 and a staggering .81 in his WR run so , yeah, .83 may be a little optimistic at this stage.

He races in Marseille June 5thEdited by: mastermulti

 

[The Master]

that's why I want to see all those splits... even one of around .83-.84 would indicate his pure speed vis-a-vis the best people.



Bolt had 3 x .83s, 2 x .82 and a staggering .81 in his WR run so , yeah, .83 may be a little optimistic at this stage.



He races in Marseille June 5th

Unfortunately I searched this information and found nothing but we can have an idea.

In Liévin, he run 60 m in 6'58, but in this place, we have the 50 m split. It was in 5'71 so he did the last 10m split in 0'87 for that race. It's important to know than the 50m-60m split is the fastest in a 100m race.

But we all know he run faster than 6'58, his best is 6'55, and it was indoor, usually sprinters run faster outside, so I would s</span></font>ay 0,85 should be the best 10m split he could do for the moment.

There si an idea about some of the best sprinters splits ever (before the 9'58):

http://speedendurance.com/2008/08/22/usain-bolt-100m-10-meter-splits-and-speed-endurance/
Edited by: The Master

 

[Observer]

http://speedendurance.com/2008/08/22/usain-bolt-100m-10-meter-splits-and-speed-endurance/

Interesting table. So, Carl Lewis would have run a 40 yard in 4.5, while Bolt (who is a good starter, even though tall) would have been a 4.4 guy. And Lemaitre, with his skin condition and slightly slower speed, would not even get a look from an NFL team!

The uncomprehending football fans would not be impressed!

 

[kre08]

The way I figure it is Bolt ran his first 40 yards in 4.355 seconds. Not including reaction time(since the NFL combine doesn't) he ran his first 40 meters in 4.6525 seconds. 40 meters equals 1574.8 inches. 40 yards equals 1440 inches. The difference of 134.8 inches equals 3.42 meters. Bolt ran his 30-40 meter split in 0.87 seconds. I multiplied 0.87 times .342(the 3.42 meters he ran in addition to 40 yards) and subtracted the the result which was .2975 off of 4.6525 seconds to come up with my 4.355 40 time. Now it's 2am and I'm a tad on the tipsy side so correct me if my math is flawed, but barring any errors something seems a little fishy when Chris Johnson runs an electronic 4.24 40 with a last reported 100 meter pb of 10.50 and Usain Bolt runs a 4.35 on route to a 9.69 100 meter. Hmmmmm......

 

[mastermulti]

this measurement can't be argued against (as distinct from football times?).
But I believe even in Australia with our 22.5 million we have many really fast 40 yard footballers since they are immensely powerful and train to make quick breaks. None are Afro-American, so your guys may be even faster.
As an example, hurdler Sally McLellan, a crack starter, ran in a demonstration event over 40 metres in Brisbane last year and was annihilated by half the Brisbane Broncos team. That's only one team in our national league of 14 or so.

 

[f3dor]

I thought some of you guys might find this interesting, here is a thread of some DWF actually admitting that christphe might be something incredible.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A68883204

Someone put this

"He said he was disappointed that he didn't break Pognon's French record, but I'm kind of bewildered to see him reaching this shape at this time of the season - either we're witnessing one of the most promising European sprinters ever, or maybe just a talented boy under the guidance of a coach who doesn't have a concept of "peaking" for a season!"

Do you agree with him?

 

[whiteathlete33]

What kind of 100m time did Craig Pickering have at the same age as Christoph?

 

[white lightning]

Craig ran a 10.22 very early on. Then in 2007 at the age of 20 he ran his current p.b. of 10.14! He has been stuck in neutral since but hopefully this year he can resume his pursuit of a sub 10! We need to support Craig as well as Christophe.

Lemaitre is just SUPERMAN IN SPIKES! Edited by: white lightning

 

[whiteathlete33]

Thanks Whitelightning. So Christophe is .2 of a second faster at the same age. That's quite a big difference. If he doesn't break 10 seconds then something is terrible wrong.

 

[waterbed]

The way I figure it is Bolt ran his first 40 yards in 4.355 seconds. Not including reaction time(since the NFL combine doesn't) he ran his first 40 meters in 4.6525 seconds. 40 meters equals 1574.8 inches. 40 yards equals 1440 inches. The difference of 134.8 inches equals 3.42 meters. Bolt ran his 30-40 meter split in 0.87 seconds. I multiplied 0.87 times .342(the 3.42 meters he ran in addition to 40 yards) and subtracted the the result which was .2975 off of 4.6525 seconds to come up with my 4.355 40 time. Now it's 2am and I'm a tad on the tipsy side so correct me if my math is flawed, but barring any errors something seems a little fishy when Chris Johnson runs an electronic 4.24 40 with a last reported 100 meter pb of 10.50 and Usain Bolt runs a 4.35 on route to a 9.69 100 meter. Hmmmmm......

nearly correct, you only forget to take off the reaction time, so Bolt would have run a 4.19 40 yard dash.Their are a lot of football or soccer players that can run fast, when Christian Blum trained with a german squat he also get beated over a distance of 30 or 40 meters or so, but some guys in soccer can be competitive with bolt over like 30 meters but can't run 100 meters under 11 seconds.

 

[waterbed]

i also had always very good acceleration, their are alot of whites with very good accelration, in soccer they are often the fastest in short sprints so it's crazy you don't see much white runningsbacks in american football.

 

[kre08]

The way I figure it is Bolt ran his first 40 yards in 4.355 seconds. Not including reaction time(since the NFL combine doesn't) he ran his first 40 meters in 4.6525 seconds. 40 meters equals 1574.8 inches. 40 yards equals 1440 inches. The difference of 134.8 inches equals 3.42 meters. Bolt ran his 30-40 meter split in 0.87 seconds. I multiplied 0.87 times .342(the 3.42 meters he ran in addition to 40 yards) and subtracted the the result which was .2975 off of 4.6525 seconds to come up with my 4.355 40 time. Now it's 2am and I'm a tad on the tipsy side so correct me if my math is flawed, but barring any errors something seems a little fishy when Chris Johnson runs an electronic 4.24 40 with a last reported 100 meter pb of 10.50 and Usain Bolt runs a 4.35 on route to a 9.69 100 meter. Hmmmmm......

nearly correct, you only forget to take off the reaction time, so Bolt would have run a 4.19 40 yard dash.Their are a lot of football or soccer players that can run fast, when Christian Blum trained with a german squat he also get beated over a distance of 30 or 40 meters or so, but some guys in soccer can be competitive with bolt over like 30 meters but can't run 100 meters under 11 seconds.

I took off the reaction time in the very beginning to come up with the 4.6xx 40 meter time.

 

[waterbed]

not important but the 1.85 first 10 meters is including reaction time so 1.695, + 1.02+0.91+0.87 = 4.495 first 40 meters without reaction time.

 

[mastermulti]

that would indicate his 30-40m split is the same as what Bolt ran in his
08 9.69 run. That table earlier on shows that the average top class guy runs each of the next two splits consecutively faster than the 30-40 split.
So Lemaitre would be certainly .85 or better in the 50-60 split.

As W/L would say, "he certainly has some wheels on him" , or as we would hope, he is almost with the top few in terms of sheer ground coverage at his fastest. Of course, he'll still have to develop every phase of the distance. That's why it takes so long as a sprint journeyman.

But I'd venture to say no white man has ever achieved his top speed. Shirvo would have muscled ahead for the first 50m (remember he did a few 60m in 6.52)but Lemaitre would have closed on him after that.

Here's reminder of how powerfully he could start at his best. It was a 10.11 (-0.3) and he was returning from injury, so Christophe would be getting him just before the line, but still the power is impressive.

Matt's startEdited by: mastermulti

 

[white lightning]

Lemaitre already has topped Shirvo in my opinion. This is with no disrespect as Shirvington is one of my favorite sprinters of all time. The power he had was incredible. It seemed like the ground shook when he ran! The reason I already rank Christophe above him is because he hs now run 3 sub 10.10 times legal at the tender age of 19. That is simply unheard of. He also has proved that like Matt, he can run these times with or without the wind. I also agree with mastermulti that his top speed is superior to any white sprinter that I have ever seen!

This being said, he has to break through the barrier. This invisible mental barrier that white sprinters have struggled with for decades. I want to say that he should not talk about it but it's impossible in this mass media age we live in! The one thing Christophe has already though is that he is mentally stronger than Shirvo, Macro, Nagel and even Pickering. Nothing phases this teenager. He is fearless! That is what will be the big difference in him taking it to the next level. He finishes races like no one I have seen since Wells. Only he is far superior to Allan Wells. Simply amazing to watch Christophe run.

I only have one wish. Let him go sub 10 next Saturday. Get this freaking mental barrier out of the way. It should have happened decades ago but I believe it will finally most likely happen next Saturday. JUNE 5th, 2010. The day we will remember forever. At the end of the day, it will only be the start of bigger and better things to come. The kid is a phenom! Long Live King Lemaitre! PepeLeFlew! The Master! The Blonde Bullet! The French Fly! White Lightning!

No superlative can describe how talented he is! Good luck Christophe. I can't wait to finally tip my glass in a champagne toast to you making history!Edited by: white lightning

 

[mastermulti]

well, I'll wait till his results start coming in at age 20 (only 2 weeks away) till I definitely put him over Matt, who did a 10.11, 10.07 and a 10.03 at 19, all in almost still conditions and under pressure of international competition. Two of these times were at the C'wealths and one a month before at the world cup in Sth Africa as the Oceania representative. At 19 he looked for all the world to be able to handle the pressure that they could throw at him but it all changed.

I am convinced Christophe WILL be even better but he did break under pressure last year in the semi-final so I want to see the results on the board where he handles the big guys before I crown him king.

Like I said, I'm sure he can and will, but I'm content to wait till there's no question about it, because I won't have to wait for too long.

You say "even Pickering" but I confess I'm far from thinking Craig can handle the pressure even as well as Matt did. Matt did a 10.07 in London at 20 agfainst Maurice and co.
(BTW, Alan Wells at 48 ran 11.50e in a lead up to the "A" race that day)Edited by: mastermulti

 

[white lightning]

I would have bet alot of money that Shirvo would have done it first. I was a huge fan and still am even though he is retired. He was a stud plan and simple and did run good in alot of meets. To be fair though, what happened to him in Sydney, Australia at the 2000 Olympics in front of his home country. Also in the other Olympics and World Championships he failed to get it done. I highly doubt this will continue to happen to Lemaitre. I don't want to bash Shirvo as he was my idol growing up. I just want to point out that maybe only Wells and Borzov will be able to compare when all is said and done. As far as times go, Lemaitre will destroy all of them. I just don't see anyone pulling off a double gold like Borzov. I can live with that but I want to see Lemaitre run faster than anyone can even dream is possible. I am hoping that somehow, someway he can challenge Bolt someday in around 3-4 years!

 

[kre08]

not important but the 1.85 first 10 meters is including reaction time so 1.695, + 1.02+0.91+0.87 = 4.495 first 40 meters without reaction time.

Oh I see I thought the reaction time and 0-10 meter split were seperate.

 

[GiovaniMarcon]

When CLM (that's what I'm going to call him now, though I don't think it'll catch on) passes the mythical 10.00 barrier I predict one or more of the following from the mainstream media:

1 - complete lack of coverage
2 - self-deprecating scoffs and guffaws from white sportscasters who
will point out endlessly that CLM is a one-off and no other whitey
will do it
3 - accuse CLM of drug abuse, regardless of there's any evidence for it
4 - temper any possible praise for CLM with counterpraise for Bolt,
Gay, et al to remind the world that he is no threat to black sprint
primacy (ie, "XXX hundred black sprinters have done what only CLM
has done")
5 - CLM is actually a light-skinned, mixed black person
6 - "The track CLM broke 10.00 on wasn't really 100meters long"
7 - comparisons only with other white sprinters (the Larry Bird rule or
praising white athletes)
8 - some will want to praise CLM but ultimately will not, because to
give any praise to a white makes the praisegiver a Nazi white
supremecist

-- But having said all that, I hope he just tells the [large] part of
the media that wants to keep him down to F**K OFF and keeps on doing
his thing. Even if just a few white kids from around the world see
CLM run world-class times and think, "hey, maybe it IS possible for
me to take up this sport" and see through all the PC bulls**t and
lies the media tells us, the white race wins.

In the end, whitey always wins.

Truth.

 

[FastEuro]

Unlike Shirvo, Lemaitre ran those time with no one to push him. In each of his races, he destroyed 2nd place by half a second or more. Powell, Bolt, Gay will push him to sub 10 very quickly. Once that is accomplished, he will grow into his frame and you will see a carbon copy of Bolt...just way lighter. 2012 is when he will truly peak.

 

[white lightning]

You know another thing I love about Christophe is that he has gotten people excited about watching track again. Similar to Wariner but at an even higher level in my opinion. When this board started, it seemed like I was posting for myself the majority of the time in the track section. Now there are so many of us posting here. I knew football, baseball, basketball and boxing would be popular but I was worried about finding enough track guys to discuss the meets with. With the lack of white sprinters in general, it's not an easy topic to get people excited about. Well times sure have changed! I look forward to reading all of your guys posts. I know that Lemaitre has something to do with that. Even Craig Pickering is the most popular posting subject ever at Caste. Somehow I feel Lemaitre will go above and beyond that. Lol.

So thanks guys. It's so nice to come here and see multiple postings, on multiple sprinters on many subjects. I really enjoy reading them and I hope you guys enjoy my input as well. Keep up the great posts gentlemen!

As off today, we have t-minus 7 days till lift off.

The Rise Of PepeLeFlew a.k.a. the Master shall launch into orbit! I can't wait!Edited by: white lightning

 

[StarWars]

The term "silent majority" comes to mind when I think of white athletes in general, because most of us do prefer to watch our own. The problem now is the silent majority feels white people don't have what it takes to be professional sprinters anymore. Not for long. Thankfully, a single human can still change the world, and that should give us hope.