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I nearly died when I saw Duhmarcuses body fat percentage at 20 percent when he hit fat camp he had a noticeable paunch and looked like a typical sedentary fast food eater. He was probably about 25 percent as I look leaner and I'm not below 20 percent from the body building photos of various fat percentages that I have seen. Anyway there is always this show if his comeback fails....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krWSBDg1c9cThe comments are hysterical. "Russell is the definition of upside".
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Saw this on SC earlier this evening, the anchor was reading Nawrocki's comments in a mocking tone, and then they immediately went to their own man, none other than Todd McShay who went on to defend Smiff and repudiate most of Nawrocki's claims.
This Todd McShay seems to have a dual role on BSPN. His primary job is draft analyst along with Kiper, and their focus is always on building and hyping up as many affletes as possible, while ignoring White players or downplaying their status. He is also the chief apologist and defender of non-white players who fail to perform well at the combine or their pro days.
In this capacity, McShay does a really good job of coming up with a long list of excuses as to why things like the 40-yard dash or vertical leap really don't mean all that much, whereas in the case of a White player, even elite combine scores don't guarantee anything. And if a White player should have a less than stellar metric in one or 2 of these combine events, then he's pretty much done and undraftable.
I still haven't figured out how a scrub like McShay who hasn't played football beyond HS (he was a backup for a year at some crap college, so that doesn't count) has somehow become this authoritative guru with the ability to heavily influence the NFL draft.
the guy said the same things about Jimmy Clausen and another White qb in this very draft
"A comparison to Jimmy Clausen was made during the call. Nawrocki indicated that Clausen and Newton are similar in that they’re both “egotistical and disingenuous … scripted players with a sense of entitlement.”
Narwoki on Tyler Bray...
"Very immature and aloof. Has a short attention span and is not detail-oriented. Not a respected leader and often finds trouble because of a sense of entitlement. Uninspiring on-field body language and demeanor - not a commanding field general. Was pressed to become more of a leader and did not progress with too much of a relaxed, California cool personality."
They say he can't possibly know this about Smith because he hasn't met him in person, and the same thing about Cam last year, well there are other ways to get info.
Nawrocki says he’s heard the terms “fraud”, “narcissist”, and “con artist” mentioned when discussing Newton with scouts.
Instead of one-on-one time, Nawrocki attributed his scathing assessment of Newton’s character to “an enormous amount of research” in dealing with people in the league.
Said Nawrocki at one point on the call, “Three of the five decision makers I’ve spoken to in the last 24 hours expressed that Newton was disillusioned about his past.
“(And) anybody that does their homework and really digs hard will come away with a lot of the same conclusions.”
Just ridiculous that its racist because he had some glowing comments to say about Barkley around the same time and the fact that he criticized a black qb last year. "But Geno is such a hard worker always in the film room", yeah he was in there so often that he failed to go through his progressions and when teams like Kansas St disguised coverages he fell apart. Maybe he was watching movies.
"I still haven't figured out how a scrub like McShay who hasn't played football beyond HS"
at least its more than Kiper, I mean I don't think that guy EVER played football despite what anything says, and from the way McShay looks I would say he either played for a very small high school or was a backup and his background is exaggerated.
"A comparison to Jimmy Clausen was made during the call. Nawrocki indicated that Clausen and Newton are similar in that they’re both “egotistical and disingenuous … scripted players with a sense of entitlement.”
Narwoki on Tyler Bray...
"Very immature and aloof. Has a short attention span and is not detail-oriented. Not a respected leader and often finds trouble because of a sense of entitlement. Uninspiring on-field body language and demeanor - not a commanding field general. Was pressed to become more of a leader and did not progress with too much of a relaxed, California cool personality."
They say he can't possibly know this about Smith because he hasn't met him in person, and the same thing about Cam last year, well there are other ways to get info.
Nawrocki says he’s heard the terms “fraud”, “narcissist”, and “con artist” mentioned when discussing Newton with scouts.
Instead of one-on-one time, Nawrocki attributed his scathing assessment of Newton’s character to “an enormous amount of research” in dealing with people in the league.
Said Nawrocki at one point on the call, “Three of the five decision makers I’ve spoken to in the last 24 hours expressed that Newton was disillusioned about his past.
“(And) anybody that does their homework and really digs hard will come away with a lot of the same conclusions.”
Just ridiculous that its racist because he had some glowing comments to say about Barkley around the same time and the fact that he criticized a black qb last year. "But Geno is such a hard worker always in the film room", yeah he was in there so often that he failed to go through his progressions and when teams like Kansas St disguised coverages he fell apart. Maybe he was watching movies.
"I still haven't figured out how a scrub like McShay who hasn't played football beyond HS"
at least its more than Kiper, I mean I don't think that guy EVER played football despite what anything says, and from the way McShay looks I would say he either played for a very small high school or was a backup and his background is exaggerated.
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Mayock has his spurts of fairness. i don't get this guy, to be honest. he seems to be sitting on the fence.
as for JaMarcus on a biggest loser, well he might be BUT he would never make it on this show, it takes some strength of will!
as for JaMarcus on a biggest loser, well he might be BUT he would never make it on this show, it takes some strength of will!
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Its not very surprising that the comments are a great example of how brainwashed most people are. I wonder what the percentage is of people who are totally brainwashed by pc propaganda. I bet its pretty high. I even see comments here on CF from time to time that show a little of the brainwash even sticks to us at times. Its just so relentless, and non stop that you literally cant escape it. THe puppet masters must be pleased with how well their evil propaganda has worked.
Keep in mind that there is a very loudmouth minority when it comes to writing comments (and also articles on sites like Bleacher Report and Weenieworld and others). When you look at the results of polls found on some articles, it's usually favorable to the White player, or whatever perspective might be called the CF view on a given issue or player. Same with comments; ones that read like they are written by a CF poster (and some undoubtedly are) usually get lots of likes and thumbs up. The DWFs are a majority, probably a very large majority, but it's not as overwhelming as it appears at times. What the hard-core CMs and anti-White racists share in common is tremendous tenacity and commitment, which unfortunately many racially aware Whites don't.
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What's really ****ing ridiculous is people on twitter saying **** like "Where was Nawrocki when Tebow was being draft?", without even trying to see if Nawrocki made a draft report on Tebow. His draft report of Matt Barkley isn't even that positive, it basically says he has the potential to be good with a great supporting cast but that he doesn't improve the skills of those around him.
In fairness there is plenty of comments calling Russell a bust and a loser. There's also plenty of stupid ones. Hey did you know he could throw a football lefty 200 yards while standing on one foot and blah blah blah.....
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What's really ****ing ridiculous is people on twitter saying **** like "Where was Nawrocki when Tebow was being draft?", without even trying to see if Nawrocki made a draft report on Tebow. His draft report of Matt Barkley isn't even that positive, it basically says he has the potential to be good with a great supporting cast but that he doesn't improve the skills of those around him.
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Yep, that's the Redskins for you... they have about as many black players named White as actual white players.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/m...ms-taking-jamarcus-russell-comeback-seriously
This joke will probably get another chance now it seems. While Tebow will never get a legitimate chance...what a joke.
This joke will probably get another chance now it seems. While Tebow will never get a legitimate chance...what a joke.
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Just when I think that the corrupt, illegitimate NFL couldnt do anything else to further embarrass, and discredit itself they go that extra mile, and remind me that there is no low they wont stoop to. We could literally make a list of at least 200 white QBs that deserve another shot, but nope. Fat Russell is the guy.
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The most ridiculous part of that article is the author thinks Russell is better than Fitzpatrick
[video=youtube;c4InyQVm-xw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4InyQVm-xw[/video]
why Geno Smith's completion percentage is overrated. Look at this play, its called by the announcers as a run, but he flicked a few inches forward (I know its a little blurry but he flicks it) as Tavon came around, this is what it comes up as in the play by play
Geno Smith pass complete to Tavon Austin for 38 yards to the LSU 42 for a 1ST down
I guess this shows off his "rocket arm" "throwing" close to 40 yards on one play.
I noticed it when watching Geno on Gruden's qb camp, he was asking what the hell this play was and if it went towards his passing stats and Geno said yes, the footage was of a td "throw", watching a little bit of WVU, they run this play quite a bit, so not all of his short throws are the typical screens where the ball has to travel at least some distance like we are used to seeing in the NFL, they are this play and a few others where the ball barely moves forward.
The only instance I can think of this in the NFL with something similar is when Danny Woodhead had the 50 yard run, it was a toss out of shotgun and it mustve have traveled like a centimeter forward as it went towards Woodhead, so it counted as a pass, it should have been counted as Woodhead's longest running play that year, at least they were using him more creatively instead of the constant draws up the gut we have seen the past 2 years. Wouldn't mind seeing him used on the play that WVU uses.
also notice Tavon Austin getting caught, a guy that is supposed to have "WAY MORE" homerun speed than Swope. People see Swope get caught by a db who has an angle in the SEC and all of a sudden he isn't that fast.
I was going to post this one Voodoo thread but couldn't find it in the search.
as far as Rusell, Id like to see the team dumb enough to pick him up. Its obvious he is trying to get a paycheck, he never cared about the game, why would it change now? Just that he is broke. Imagine if Ryan Leaf tried to come back when he was still young, I doubt there would be any positive comments like there are for Russel. The difference between Leaf is that he had the smarts to make money other ways. To a lesser extent with Matt Jones, he could have taken the Redskins offer only to be used as a training camp body for some extra money, basically given a Mike Hass role except no practice squad eligibility (which is what happened with the Bengals) but he decided to "retire" and go on with other stuff in life. It sucks but I don't think football was that important to Jones as great as he was (maybe being stuck in Jacksonville used as a possession receiver not getting to use his speed made him jaded), and if he didn't have a chance to compete for a real role it wasn't worth it, he was supposedly competing for the 4th or 5th wr spot with the Bengals when he just led his team in receiving the year before on pace for 1k with a qb that can't throw deep and utilize his talent. He might have been able to "redeem" himself by bouncing around teams for a few years and carving out some special teams role as a 4th or 5th wideout. There was no competition because he definitely had the talent to stay on with them. In a fair world, even after his talent used at wr I think he could have carved out a role with some time at qb, they ran one "read option" play with him at Jacksonville, they were on the left side of the field with less space and they ran it towards that side, the rb didn't even bother to try and grab the ball (which is what makes the zone read successful, reading the defender and both the qb and rb have it for just a small period), he still got 10 yards on the play running, with no space, it looked like he was going to get a loss with so many defenders and he didn't look like he was going fast, but he just covered so much ground so quickly he turned a loss into a first down before being pushed out of bounds (he was running on the very edge of the line). If they had him running stuff RG3 was running he would put up 1k easily rushing.
why Geno Smith's completion percentage is overrated. Look at this play, its called by the announcers as a run, but he flicked a few inches forward (I know its a little blurry but he flicks it) as Tavon came around, this is what it comes up as in the play by play
Geno Smith pass complete to Tavon Austin for 38 yards to the LSU 42 for a 1ST down
I guess this shows off his "rocket arm" "throwing" close to 40 yards on one play.
I noticed it when watching Geno on Gruden's qb camp, he was asking what the hell this play was and if it went towards his passing stats and Geno said yes, the footage was of a td "throw", watching a little bit of WVU, they run this play quite a bit, so not all of his short throws are the typical screens where the ball has to travel at least some distance like we are used to seeing in the NFL, they are this play and a few others where the ball barely moves forward.
The only instance I can think of this in the NFL with something similar is when Danny Woodhead had the 50 yard run, it was a toss out of shotgun and it mustve have traveled like a centimeter forward as it went towards Woodhead, so it counted as a pass, it should have been counted as Woodhead's longest running play that year, at least they were using him more creatively instead of the constant draws up the gut we have seen the past 2 years. Wouldn't mind seeing him used on the play that WVU uses.
also notice Tavon Austin getting caught, a guy that is supposed to have "WAY MORE" homerun speed than Swope. People see Swope get caught by a db who has an angle in the SEC and all of a sudden he isn't that fast.
I was going to post this one Voodoo thread but couldn't find it in the search.
as far as Rusell, Id like to see the team dumb enough to pick him up. Its obvious he is trying to get a paycheck, he never cared about the game, why would it change now? Just that he is broke. Imagine if Ryan Leaf tried to come back when he was still young, I doubt there would be any positive comments like there are for Russel. The difference between Leaf is that he had the smarts to make money other ways. To a lesser extent with Matt Jones, he could have taken the Redskins offer only to be used as a training camp body for some extra money, basically given a Mike Hass role except no practice squad eligibility (which is what happened with the Bengals) but he decided to "retire" and go on with other stuff in life. It sucks but I don't think football was that important to Jones as great as he was (maybe being stuck in Jacksonville used as a possession receiver not getting to use his speed made him jaded), and if he didn't have a chance to compete for a real role it wasn't worth it, he was supposedly competing for the 4th or 5th wr spot with the Bengals when he just led his team in receiving the year before on pace for 1k with a qb that can't throw deep and utilize his talent. He might have been able to "redeem" himself by bouncing around teams for a few years and carving out some special teams role as a 4th or 5th wideout. There was no competition because he definitely had the talent to stay on with them. In a fair world, even after his talent used at wr I think he could have carved out a role with some time at qb, they ran one "read option" play with him at Jacksonville, they were on the left side of the field with less space and they ran it towards that side, the rb didn't even bother to try and grab the ball (which is what makes the zone read successful, reading the defender and both the qb and rb have it for just a small period), he still got 10 yards on the play running, with no space, it looked like he was going to get a loss with so many defenders and he didn't look like he was going fast, but he just covered so much ground so quickly he turned a loss into a first down before being pushed out of bounds (he was running on the very edge of the line). If they had him running stuff RG3 was running he would put up 1k easily rushing.
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Sounds like there's trouble in paradise between Josh Freeman and my "favorite head coach in the NFL", Greg "TGTW" Schiano. The Tampa Bay Times are reporting that Schiano is "not on board" with the commitment to Freeman at quarterback.
Per beat writer Stephen Holder, "everything you’ve read and heard" about the Bucs pursuing free-agent quarterbacks has been driven by Schiano. They checked in on Matt Cassel, Carson Palmer, and Chase Daniel and are now expected to drafted a middle-round QB. Schiano joined the Bucs last season, three years after the organization used the No. 17 overall pick on Freeman. However, the only "competition" the Bucs have actually signed is incumbent backup Dan Orlovsky. Even if they draft a quarterback, Schiano appears content to let this be a make-or-break season for Freeman.
I can't stand Schiano, but this time I commiserate with him. He's in a bind. He inherited a "franchise" quarterback, whom he probably knows isn't very good, and like most coaches would like a chance to draft "his guy" to build the team around. Well that's not a problem for most head coaches but it is when your franchise invests in a black. Even worse, the kosher Glazer ownership is in the negro's corner. If Freeman were White, his make or break season would have come already and Schiano would be free to draft "his guy" and move on from this bum. Instead they'll trudge through another mediocre season with Freeman. I can't say I won't enjoy seeing Schiano suffer though.
Per beat writer Stephen Holder, "everything you’ve read and heard" about the Bucs pursuing free-agent quarterbacks has been driven by Schiano. They checked in on Matt Cassel, Carson Palmer, and Chase Daniel and are now expected to drafted a middle-round QB. Schiano joined the Bucs last season, three years after the organization used the No. 17 overall pick on Freeman. However, the only "competition" the Bucs have actually signed is incumbent backup Dan Orlovsky. Even if they draft a quarterback, Schiano appears content to let this be a make-or-break season for Freeman.
I can't stand Schiano, but this time I commiserate with him. He's in a bind. He inherited a "franchise" quarterback, whom he probably knows isn't very good, and like most coaches would like a chance to draft "his guy" to build the team around. Well that's not a problem for most head coaches but it is when your franchise invests in a black. Even worse, the kosher Glazer ownership is in the negro's corner. If Freeman were White, his make or break season would have come already and Schiano would be free to draft "his guy" and move on from this bum. Instead they'll trudge through another mediocre season with Freeman. I can't say I won't enjoy seeing Schiano suffer though.
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Nice find Freethinker. I agree with everything you just posted regarding Schiano and the whole situation with Freeman.
Just wanted to add this: Anyone else here notice how Tampa's seemingly gone out their way to add some players this off-season? None are "big names", but "goys" like Derek Landri, Tom Crabtree and Brian Leonard are all expected to see significant time, even if it's only as backups. Team has also signed/re-signed a bunch of young whites that have a chance to stick, including Sean Baker (safety) and Jacob Cutera (linebacker) at caste-taboo positions. These "goys" would've had almost no chance when militant Panther Raheem Morris was coaching.
It's a small increase in whites, but why is it happening?
Is it due to the pi$$ poor attendance in recent years, knowing it's hard to sell tickets to white southerners fielding a team that resembles the Grambling Tigers? Have the Bucs Jewish owners finally decided they hate losing money more than they hate gentile athletes?
Or has the gap-toothed whigger come to the realization that it's hard to coach a team almost entirely comprised of blacks?
Just wanted to add this: Anyone else here notice how Tampa's seemingly gone out their way to add some players this off-season? None are "big names", but "goys" like Derek Landri, Tom Crabtree and Brian Leonard are all expected to see significant time, even if it's only as backups. Team has also signed/re-signed a bunch of young whites that have a chance to stick, including Sean Baker (safety) and Jacob Cutera (linebacker) at caste-taboo positions. These "goys" would've had almost no chance when militant Panther Raheem Morris was coaching.
It's a small increase in whites, but why is it happening?
Is it due to the pi$$ poor attendance in recent years, knowing it's hard to sell tickets to white southerners fielding a team that resembles the Grambling Tigers? Have the Bucs Jewish owners finally decided they hate losing money more than they hate gentile athletes?
Or has the gap-toothed whigger come to the realization that it's hard to coach a team almost entirely comprised of blacks?
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Schiano should have some moral decency and invite Joe Martinek in to camp and give him a shot at competing for the 3rd or if the team keeps 4 tailbacks the 4th back spot. Considering the 5'7" 200 pound back he recruited to replace Jersey Joe at tailback is probably getting drafted with stats that aren't better than Joe's stats, he owes him big time.
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There were some good comments in the comments section directed against the DWF's about how Tebows statistics dwarf Russells and how Tebow is a winner where as Russell is a proven loser.
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Here we go again.. If you can stomach this garbage leave Mr. Bell a comment telling him to STFU.
Jarrett Bell, USA Today: Geno Smith the latest to pay the black tax.
Jarrett Bell, USA Today: Geno Smith the latest to pay the black tax.
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I didn't see a place to leave a comment or I would of asked him about the white tax at RB, WR, DT, DE, S, CB.
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I'm sure he did that intentionally. I've noted a lot of these jock sniffing journalists have been doing that lately. Making it harder to leave a comment to call them out on some of their "facts".
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USA Today's comment section requires you to click on the bubble at the top left part of the article. It uses Facebook.
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This writer is also a hall of fame voter. A few posters have wondered out loud how marginal Black candidates have made the ballot as an oldtimer and eventually got elected, while similar White candidates have been forgotten or dismissed. This doesn't help with writers like this holding the keys to the vault......