Black QBs in the NFL

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This is pretty hilarious: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...ate-seminoles-told-nfl-teams-ej-manuel-backup


Yet racist black GM Whaley picked him early in the first round and he is on the bench. Meanwhile Glennon is playing really well, Nassib looked good in preseason and Barkley looks like he is developing as well.

In fairness to Whaley, its come out now that Manuel wasn't his pick. He was the choice of that caste clown Buddy Nix who always had a hard-on for affletes, especially ones from SEC (Systematically Eliminating Caucasians) schools.
 

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Russell Wilson has 978 passing yards through 5 games. Less than 200 yards per game. That's a problem.
All of the black quarterbacks fail in comparison when looking at yards per game. Wilson's 195.6 yards per game is behind Charlie Whitehurst for goodness sake!

If you go off of the NFL.com stats page, which includes guys with less attempts like Kyle Orton and Carson Palmer, you have to go all the way down to #15 til you get to a brutha. Newton has a respectable 253 yards per game. After him, it's Crapernick all the way at #24.

#26 Bridgewater
#29 Manuel
#32 Wilson
#34 Smith :lol: as there are only 32 teams in the league

They can change the rules and dumb things down to try to "help" the black QBs but all it'll do is make the Whites even better. Cousins is averaging 314 ypg and Orton 303 ypg. Orton is considered a journeyman. The blacks were failing in the exact same offenses with the exact same supporting cast. What does this say about them?

In my fairest evaluation possible, I'd say Newton is having a good year, especially with no running game and a weak receiving core. Wilson is an extremely good game manager who has elite scrambling and improvisation skills. So 2 good quarterbacks out of 32 starters. Hardly revolutionizing the position.
 

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Both San Diego and Dallas showed that when the Seattle defense is vulnerable then so is their offense. From looking unbeatable in the pre-season to now being 3-2 in the regular season, the Seahawks aren't exactly easing on down the road to the Super Bowl repeat that so many (including some here) thought would happen.

I like Wilson as a quarterback and think he is unfairly criticized at times on the board, but he is never going to be a top five elite QB and probably not even a top ten or fifteen one. His success is predicated on a dominating defense and a strong offensive line; same with San Francisco, whose D has not been very good so far this season. Will be interesting to see if Austin Davis can pick the 49ers apart tonight. His start has been reminiscent of that of Kurt Warner in 1999 when he took over for an injured Trent Green and went from an unknown to an instant superstar.
 

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Tonights Game is another case study between overrated black quarterback vs an undrafted/overlooked white qb Austin Davis.

I am looking forward to seeing what he can do tonight against the glorified game manager kapernick.
 

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I am looking forward to seeing what he can do tonight against the glorified game manager kapernick.
I forget if I heard it here or on sports talk radio but Kaepernick was compared to a pitcher who can throw 98 mph but doesn't know how to pitch and gets hit hard. I thought this was an accurate comparison. He does have an undeniably strong arm, and just like those pitchers, will make some impressive throws. However, his accuracy and "touch" (let's say off speed pitches in baseball) leave alot to be desired. I think, he'll have an up and down career in which some games he looks great and others he plain stinks.

Don, your take on Wilson is a fair one. He reminds me of Rich Gannon with his scrambling and ability to extend plays. He actually uses his legs like a quarterback should, to buy time to allow a receiver to get open. He's also got seemingly good leadership and better intelligence (as a mixed guy) compared to a coal black negro like Geno Smith. He is overly hated on this board but that could be because of Seattle DWFs, Wigger Pete and the thuggish, loudmouthed defense. If the Caste System did not exist, Wilson would be a guy I'd root for.
 

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I forget if I heard it here or on sports talk radio but Kaepernick was compared to a pitcher who can throw 98 mph but doesn't know how to pitch and gets hit hard. I thought this was an accurate comparison. He does have an undeniably strong arm, and just like those pitchers, will make some impressive throws. However, his accuracy and "touch" (let's say off speed pitches in baseball) leave alot to be desired. I think, he'll have an up and down career in which some games he looks great and others he plain stinks.

Don, your take on Wilson is a fair one. He reminds me of Rich Gannon with his scrambling and ability to extend plays. He actually uses his legs like a quarterback should, to buy time to allow a receiver to get open. He's also got seemingly good leadership and better intelligence (as a mixed guy) compared to a coal black negro like Geno Smith. He is overly hated on this board but that could be because of Seattle DWFs, Wigger Pete and the thuggish, loudmouthed defense. If the Caste System did not exist, Wilson would be a guy I'd root for.

No, he is overly hated because he is an arrogant turd. The media tries to make him out to be a humble good guy clean black quarterback, but this piece of crap eats up the media praise like he is something special. He never shot down the whole 8-0 vs Brady etc. No he thinks he is elite because he has the record against them. I hope he fails terribly. I cannot believe he is even getting any praise here to begin with.
 

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I wouldn't go so far as to call Wilson a turd, but I'm also surprised at the level of praise he's getting here. As a quarterback, he's decent - a game manager, certainly not elite. He's capable of succeeding, but I don't think we should be rooting for him to succeed, because the media and the DWFs will instantly pounce on that and use his success to call for more black quarterbacks and the eventual darkening of the QB position to the point where white QBs are a rarity. Just look at all the propaganda that came pouring out after the Super Bowl. At any rate, rooting for Wilson means rooting against the (usually white) quarterback on the other team.

The fact that Wilson feels the need to go for the white trophy girl and go down the road of typical black male objectification of white femininity (muh dik) also bothers me. I would respect him if he had married a black woman.
 

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I wouldn't go so far as to call Wilson a turd, but I'm also surprised at the level of praise he's getting here. As a quarterback, he's decent - a game manager, certainly not elite. He's capable of succeeding, but I don't think we should be rooting for him to succeed, because the media and the DWFs will instantly pounce on that and use his success to call for more black quarterbacks and the eventual darkening of the QB position to the point where white QBs are a rarity. Just look at all the propaganda that came pouring out after the Super Bowl. At any rate, rooting for Wilson means rooting against the (usually white) quarterback on the other team.

The fact that Wilson feels the need to go for the white trophy girl and go down the road of typical black male objectification of white femininity (muh dik) also bothers me. I would respect him if he had married a black woman.

Well in private conversation I'd go as far as calling him a n*****, but i'm just being modest when I use turd. Btw, last I heard, the blonde mudshark divorced him. I guess she's set for life with alimony. Maybe that's all she really wanted once she got it.
 

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No, he is overly hated because he is an arrogant turd. The media tries to make him out to be a humble good guy clean black quarterback, but this piece of crap eats up the media praise like he is something special. He never shot down the whole 8-0 vs Brady etc. No he thinks he is elite because he has the record against them. I hope he fails terribly. I cannot believe he is even getting any praise here to begin with.

LOL! Tell us what'cha really think PF. ;-)
 

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I wouldn't go so far as to call Wilson a turd, but I'm also surprised at the level of praise he's getting here. As a quarterback, he's decent - a game manager, certainly not elite. He's capable of succeeding, but I don't think we should be rooting for him to succeed, because the media and the DWFs will instantly pounce on that and use his success to call for more black quarterbacks and the eventual darkening of the QB position to the point where white QBs are a rarity. Just look at all the propaganda that came pouring out after the Super Bowl. At any rate, rooting for Wilson means rooting against the (usually white) quarterback on the other team.

The fact that Wilson feels the need to go for the white trophy girl and go down the road of typical black male objectification of white femininity (muh dik) also bothers me. I would respect him if he had married a black woman.

Taking the time to carefully read the posts you are commenting on is generally helpful. I specifically wrote that Wilson is not elite and never will be, and Freethinker agreed.

Wilson's in the mold of Alex Smith -- a very good game manager. I mean he was the quarterback for a Super Bowl winning team. Does Trent Dilfer deserve absolutely no credit for being the starting quarterback of the 2000 Ravens that won the Super Bowl? There's nothing wrong with being a game manager; Wilson's living up to his potential and doing what the team wants him to do, but that doesn't mean anyone is now "rooting" for him.

What credibility is brought to a site that is supposed to support White athletes by never acknowledging that any black athletes are good at what they do? Are they all just "turds" -- and God forbid if they have a "mudshark" for their wife or girlfriend.

It seems some are more interested in rooting against black athletes than they are rooting for White ones.
 

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It seems some are more interested in rooting against black athletes than they are rooting for White ones.
This is not surprising. It is borne out of frustration. I recall a comment from jaxvid back a few years when some on the board were virtually cheering for injuries to black players. He said, in effect, that "this is what we've be reduced to". With the latest both-barrells assault on the QB position, ANY success by a black QB is being ratcheted up to mythical status by the media, worse than the Warren Moon-Duante Culpepper-Donovan McNabb days. At least back then, starting black QBs in D1 college football were relatively scarce, while now it is 50%.
 

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Is it really at 50%? I figured it was at 35-40%. The good news is that they really do not project well to the nfl.
 

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Is it really at 50%? I figured it was at 35-40%. The good news is that they really do not project well to the nfl.
Your figures are probably more accurate overall, but of the "high profile" schools that get on the tube and get the publicity, it's much closer to 50%.
 

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Your figures are probably more accurate overall, but of the "high profile" schools that get on the tube and get the publicity, it's much closer to 50%.

Yea that is very true regarding the big schools having black quarterbacks. The media doesn't label black qbs game managers though which is part of the problem. Game manager is a caste term describing white qbs.
 

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Is it really at 50%? I figured it was at 35-40%. The good news is that they really do not project well to the nfl.

Blacks make up 13% of the population. White men can definitely play the quarterback position well.

The fact that the percentage of black quarterbacks is as high as it is, is proof that there is a program to ethnically cleanse white men from football. Otherwise the percentage of black quarterbacks would, at best, reflect the percentage of blacks in the general population.

It's another example of the white genocide that's taking place in our society.
 

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The phenomenon going on with black QBs at the college and HS levels has everything to do with athletic perception. The adoption of the spread offense has created a desire for more "athletic" QBs. Now, when a scout or a coach thinks "athletic", as in running with the ball, what do they think? Right you are, black.

As we have documented on numerous occasions, even at this requirement, white athletic QBs are markedly superior, yet the black players are recruited for the exact same reason they are at RB, WR, DB, and LB.
 

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Blacks make up 13% of the population. White men can definitely play the quarterback position well.

The fact that the percentage of black quarterbacks is as high as it is, is proof that there is a program to ethnically cleanse white men from football. Otherwise the percentage of black quarterbacks would, at best, reflect the percentage of blacks in the general population.

It's another example of the white genocide that's taking place in our society.

The black population is totally over represented in all sports. Blacks at the qb position are just another notch in the belt of the caste system.

Vanilla_sky does some great research in the high school football section of the forum tracking recruits. I have also begun to take more interest in the recruiting process. I think more and more this is where we need to focus as this is where the weeding out of white players begins.
 

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The phenomenon going on with black QBs at the college and HS levels has everything to do with athletic perception. The adoption of the spread offense has created a desire for more "athletic" QBs. Now, when a scout or a coach thinks "athletic", as in running with the ball, what do they think? Right you are, black.

As we have documented on numerous occasions, even at this requirement, white athletic QBs are markedly superior, yet the black players are recruited for the exact same reason they are at RB, WR, DB, and LB.

Totally true footballdad. Many of the blacks who play the qb postion are often undersized and cannot hack it as qbs at the college level. The 5'10 190lb black qb who can only make one read and has mediocre arm strength is the basic template for most of these black qbs. Look at LSU and their terrible qb play this season. Hence the rule changes which led to the dumbed down offensive schemes over the past 5 or so years - single reads to an intermediate route if not opened then the qb takes off running or the qb makes a read on a defensive player and decides to keep the ball and run with it or give it to a running back.

The qb position in recruiting is the only position to be broken down by style of play - pocket passer (aka pro style until a few years ago) and dual threat. If you scan the recruiting services the pocket passers are overwhelmingly white and dual threat white qbs are in pretty significant numbers as well (much more so than black pocket passers). The black qb is targeted specifically by certain coaches - urban Meyer, Brian Kelly, dabbo swinney, jimbo Fischer, rich Rodriquez, malzahn have all displayed bias in recruiting the quarterback position. If they recruit a white qb there is almost no chance he will play. None of those coaches has churned out a top tier nfl qb - scam is decent (tebow was the exception but was screwed over for many reasons).
 

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Taking the time to carefully read the posts you are commenting on is generally helpful. I specifically wrote that Wilson is not elite and never will be, and Freethinker agreed.

Wilson's in the mold of Alex Smith -- a very good game manager. I mean he was the quarterback for a Super Bowl winning team. Does Trent Dilfer deserve absolutely no credit for being the starting quarterback of the 2000 Ravens that won the Super Bowl? There's nothing wrong with being a game manager; Wilson's living up to his potential and doing what the team wants him to do, but that doesn't mean anyone is now "rooting" for him.

What credibility is brought to a site that is supposed to support White athletes by never acknowledging that any black athletes are good at what they do? Are they all just "turds" -- and God forbid if they have a "mudshark" for their wife or girlfriend.

It seems some are more interested in rooting against black athletes than they are rooting for White ones.
Thank you Don.

Let me clarify my position. I do not root for Wilson and I never have. I said IF there was no Caste System, he'd be a guy I could support. Obviously this isn't the case and I fully understand the ramifications of his success. They will use it to pump more black quarterbacks into the league but let's be real. They'll do the same if every single blacks quarterback fails. They are Cultural Marxists. They are in power. They will not stop until they are forced to stop.

Admitting Wilson is a good quarterback, one who's job is too manage the game, is an admission of nothing. So there's one good (maybe 2) starting black quarterbacks in a league of 32. That's nothing to be ashamed of for our site and it's nothing for blacks and the corporate media to boast about. McNabb was good (and overrated by the media) for some years but he was the best they had. Now Wilson has this role.

We should root against the success of Seattle (or San Fran or Carolina) as a team but we don't need to worry about Wilson ever becoming elite individually. All the best quarterbacks are White. The statistics show this overwhelmingly.
 

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crazy that Urban Meyer still prefers black qbs, Tebow was his best qb, a heisman winner and they won a national title, once while he started and the other while he was a crucial part of the offense (Chris Leak didnt do that much) also had Alex Smith at Utah, who was 4th in the Heisman race and took him to win the Fiesta Bowl. And yeah Alex Smith could run well enough.

not only does he recruit black qbs heavily , he said Braxton Miller was the most talented qb hes ever had (although Tressel recruited him, he recruited the replacement)

it seems like when White dual qbs get a shot in college, big things happen. Tons of "athletic" blacks playing qbs and not much happening. I mean they have some that win, but could be easily replaced.
 

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Tough week for NFL black quarterbacks. Cam, Russell, Colin, Geno and Teddy all lost. Geno and Teddy don't run, so they're just bad pocket passers. Cam, Russell, Colin (and RG3) are all great runners who must run a lot to be successful. For whatever reason, Kaepernick wasn't running against the Broncos last night, and he just looked like a bad quarterback. Last year was an anomaly, and we will probably only see one of these guys in the playoffs this year.
 

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Tough week for NFL black quarterbacks. Cam, Russell, Colin, Geno and Teddy all lost. Geno and Teddy don't run, so they're just bad pocket passers. Cam, Russell, Colin (and RG3) are all great runners who must run a lot to be successful. For whatever reason, Kaepernick wasn't running against the Broncos last night, and he just looked like a bad quarterback. Last year was an anomaly, and we will probably only see one of these guys in the playoffs this year.
Yes, if the playoffs were to start now, only Cam would be in. The Panthers play in a joke division and went from having the best defense to one of the worst. They would be an easy early exit.

It's pretty amazing to see that there is only one starting black quarterback in the entire AFC. Geno on the laughable Jets. They'd be smart to draft a White QB next year. With all the smart, athletic and talented White men leading their rivals, they are severely handicapped (pun intended).
 

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Yes, if the playoffs were to start now, only Cam would be in. The Panthers play in a joke division and went from having the best defense to one of the worst.

Scam looked like a total joke yesterday. Every other ball was overthrown and he panicked at the first sign of trouble. His mostly sumo O-line (Kalil's the only cracker) is pathetic and HE IS the Panthers run game so I can't completey fault him. He should just thank his lucky stars he's got one of, if not the best TE in the league to catch his overthrown passes.
 

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Interesting news out of Seattle, the Tom Iron principle at work perhaps?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/shutd...n-and-some-seahawks-teammates--204134070.html

Most notable part:

"Freeman also said, based on several interviews with Seahawks players, “that some of the black players think Wilson isn't black enough," a strange claim that nonetheless paints the Seahawks situation as a little less close than we remember from last season's playoff run."
 

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Taking the time to carefully read the posts you are commenting on is generally helpful. I specifically wrote that Wilson is not elite and never will be, and Freethinker agreed.

Wilson's in the mold of Alex Smith -- a very good game manager. I mean he was the quarterback for a Super Bowl winning team. Does Trent Dilfer deserve absolutely no credit for being the starting quarterback of the 2000 Ravens that won the Super Bowl? There's nothing wrong with being a game manager; Wilson's living up to his potential and doing what the team wants him to do, but that doesn't mean anyone is now "rooting" for him.

What credibility is brought to a site that is supposed to support White athletes by never acknowledging that any black athletes are good at what they do? Are they all just "turds" -- and God forbid if they have a "mudshark" for their wife or girlfriend.

It seems some are more interested in rooting against black athletes than they are rooting for White ones.

Admittedly, I began to have some feelings for rooting against black athletes when I became a member and started posting on CF and sometimes I still do, however I can honestly say I have never wanted a black player to sustain an injury.

I almost posted a comment tonight on the MLB forum about the KC Royals, but after hearing KC's Lorenzo Cain's post game comments about an incident that occurred between a teammate and SF pitcher Hunter Strickland, I decided not to, because Cain, who is a good black player and spoke eloquently and was humble about the incident, I gained a little respect for him. There was no need for me to comment on what I was thinking.

I now just try and post accomplishments of white athletes. It's their responsibility to prepare to perform and show they have what it takes to become a college or pro athlete.

I understand the frustration from a personal standpoint, however, we shouldn't have to depend on, or want another race to fail or be injured for white players to become successful athletes!
 
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