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Black QBs in the NFL
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That Jaden Daniels piece was so over the top.
Not quite up there with the Tiki Barber skull structure worship but in that category.
Maybe the guy needs a night out in the cold autumn woods to gain some perspective.
"Why is that Mountie staring at me?" Hardy har har.
Not quite up there with the Tiki Barber skull structure worship but in that category.
Maybe the guy needs a night out in the cold autumn woods to gain some perspective.
"Why is that Mountie staring at me?" Hardy har har.
For good reason
lol(((Matthew Berry))) and NBC/Weenieworld, such losers, the "mainstream" media is toast if Trump wins.
Leonardfan
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I know I catch alot of grief here for my relentless push back against black QBs. But this is what I was fighting against. Arch Manning the only White QB in that picture. If the election taught us anything it is that social media can be used to fight back against false narratives. The caste system is a false narrative so if you are on twitter we should all "friend" each other and act as attack dogs on this stuff.
I don't give you grief for pushing back against Black QBs. I and others have been writing about that topic for many years. I give you grief for the way you go about it, as I've explained on numerous occasions. Big difference, one you don't seem to comprehend or don't want to comprehend. But whatever, you have lots of leeway to push back the way you want and you provide lots of good information about college QBs that's important to know.
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As of right now, most of the political right either believes that the best players play or that "sportsball" is a waste of time. There is a growing segment online that calls out the lunchpail type comments and the white-to-white WR comparisons, but that does not translate into them questioning why 47 of the top 50 recruits in 2025 are black, including 9 of the top 10 QBs. There is a willingness to call out anti-white stereotypes but not push back on pro-black bias. You look at this year's rankings and while I don't have hard numbers, I've been following recruiting for years and this easily feels like the blackest class of all time. Even though the numbers have been bad for a while, there have always been a handful of white 5-stars and that is not the case this cycle. However, this is merely viewed as "progress" and the "natural evolution" of the sport.
I just want to say that I support your pushback against the Agenda and I appreciate the work you do. So many great White QBs are being snubbed (and Arch Manning might have been snubbed too if his last name wasn't Manning). The NFL has gone from White QBs being the default and black ones being the exception (something that made the league watchable even at 70% blackness overall), to the current status of around 50/50. It seems clear that (((they))) aren't satisfied and are going to keep pushing as long as they can get away with it. Like I said earlier in this thread, imagine how bad the NFL will be if White QBs become as uncommon as White defensive linemen. But that seems to be what the powers that be want.
Probably the only way I could cheer for a team with a black QB would be if they had a star White running back and they played a smashmouth offense that heavily emphasized the run game.
YES...Year of the Black QB (2018?) ESPiN did a show..Roundtable discussion with the Play Book for ALL to see "Make the NFL more like the College game"" Basketball on Grass i call it. ...and the goal was to get it to 50/50....and the older Black man said "Why Not 20"??. They (he) will keep trying but it's not as easy as they think. Stay tuned!
SOLID Post!
It is an attention getter for sure with the HS Recruiting Rankings i have been following most of my life,.! One to monitor....
Yeah ....24 7 QB Rankings 1 White out of 10 ...w a Hawaiian + a few Mahomes...
The Next 40 (TOP 50)....White QB's do come on rather strongly @ 27 out of 50 ....thier an outcast? But don't count them out!
Currently
FBS 9 of the Top 11 Passers are White
FCS Top 9 Leading Passer's all White
NFL Top Passing Yards
8 of Top 11 ....Mahomes is @12
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At least they even acknowledge even if unknowingly that blacks cannot process information or play in high IQ offenses that dominated the leagues up until the past 15 years. The rules had to be changed to accommodate more black qbs. Hence why we see so much of the same offensive playcalling across the league.
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47/50 is clear engineering! Maybe like how woke leftists went too insane with the tranny nonsense and lost emphatically in the election this insane level of bigotry against whites will wake up younger generations who seem more likely to question “the narrative”. Regarding the fact that Manning is the only white qb, I’ve pointed out before how patronage in football is one thing helping whites get on the radar and as more retired white players have sons that pipeline will be key to keeping any whites on the field
Obviously not disputing the caste system but in general they are proportionally less whites among the younger generations. Whites are a majority minority for Generation Alpha (see graph)
Future generations of Americans in general not just affletes will be darker and darker unless something is done to reverse these trends. Less high motor talent to choose from unfortunately
I also believe the concussion/CTE hysteria is influencing suburban whites to choose other sports to football due to parents being concerned over brain injury for their children
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Not to disagree entirely but out of that 26% “Hispanic”, how many are Whites like Ted Cruz, Tony Romo or Keith Hernandez? A good chunk. Then out of the 7.6% of mixed race you have White and Hispanic. Statistically, that is the most common mixed race relationship in America. So while we still need to reverse immigration trends desperately, I don’t think its minority for White kids just yet.
Then regarding who plays football, Asians (Orientals and Hindus) and mestizo “Hispanics” don’t really play the sport in any sizable number. At the end of the day, the biggest talent pool demographically is still Whites, blacks and mulattos in that order. When I have more time, I’ll document the high school champions in my area again this year. Spoiler it’s overwhelming super majority White schools.
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Solid post and a lot of merit to it. Posters over the years also point to Whites shifting away from sports like football for baseball/lacrosse because more or less they know it's a better shot at getting a scholarship. The black population is stagnant in this country and historically floats around 12%. Blacks still make up the same amount of the population yet continue to be overrepresented by corrupt recruiting practices that allow for the open discrimination of White athletes.
Exactly. The minority populations that are increasing in the U.S. due to mass immigration (mestizos and Asians) don't really play football. Because the black population is remaining more or less the same percentage-wise, it just means that the relentless increase in the blackness of the QB position is purely artificial and directed, and not a consequence of natural demographic trends at all.
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I will politely play devil's advocate here to these points re: decline in white football prospects.
Regarding population replacement: the white demographic percentage is decreasing primarily because of the flood of Ameroids/Amerinds, Indians, Muslims, Chinese, and a variety of mysterious rat-people. This doesn't directly lower the pool of white athletes, they don't lose their scholarships to those people, and it doesn't account for 47/50.
Regarding concussion/CTE: while it's not a non-zero factor in steering parents away from youth football, I imagine liberal whites being way more concerned that conservative whites. This is a crude and imperfect distinction, but it's also spiritually true. Boys raised by helicopter parents, single moms, worry-warts, and beta cucks aren't really part of the football feeder system already. My perception is that a very large majority of white NFL players are at least "silently" conservative to a degree. American whites as a bloc are still 40% "liberal," but I would posit that this has already filtered out elite athletes from football before CTE is considered.
Regarding elite white prospects choosing baseball over football: the very best baseball players could get cash up front from an MLB team by being drafted out of high school. Now with NIL madness, the playing field will be different between the sports, and perhaps more even. Take for example Michigan running back Cole Cabana, who I just recently looked up. He might be sixth on the depth chart, completely passed over by the staff after the fact, and in need of a transfer. Still, in addition to his scholarship, he is driving a brand new baby blue Chevy Camaro with a racing stripe, and he gets paid to shoot commercials for the local autobody shop that did the detailing work. This is as a 19yr old college sophomore. While this is just one anecdote, it suggests that it's more lucrative to play football than say, join the track team. There will be new up-front money available to white football players, even if they are fringe (or screwed over).
Circling back to the 47/50 thing, I'd mostly chalk that up to our overlords, who I'll call here the Canaanite Sorcerors. Their spells have infected a lot of people with biases, and for that, I like the term 'Mass Formation Psychosis.'
As a mitigating factor, we have to mention Human Biodiversity, or to be clear that blacks mature earlier on average. If you accept that this is true, it still indicts the scouts who fail to account for this, which brings us back to overlords and attitudes and biases.
Regarding population replacement: the white demographic percentage is decreasing primarily because of the flood of Ameroids/Amerinds, Indians, Muslims, Chinese, and a variety of mysterious rat-people. This doesn't directly lower the pool of white athletes, they don't lose their scholarships to those people, and it doesn't account for 47/50.
Regarding concussion/CTE: while it's not a non-zero factor in steering parents away from youth football, I imagine liberal whites being way more concerned that conservative whites. This is a crude and imperfect distinction, but it's also spiritually true. Boys raised by helicopter parents, single moms, worry-warts, and beta cucks aren't really part of the football feeder system already. My perception is that a very large majority of white NFL players are at least "silently" conservative to a degree. American whites as a bloc are still 40% "liberal," but I would posit that this has already filtered out elite athletes from football before CTE is considered.
Regarding elite white prospects choosing baseball over football: the very best baseball players could get cash up front from an MLB team by being drafted out of high school. Now with NIL madness, the playing field will be different between the sports, and perhaps more even. Take for example Michigan running back Cole Cabana, who I just recently looked up. He might be sixth on the depth chart, completely passed over by the staff after the fact, and in need of a transfer. Still, in addition to his scholarship, he is driving a brand new baby blue Chevy Camaro with a racing stripe, and he gets paid to shoot commercials for the local autobody shop that did the detailing work. This is as a 19yr old college sophomore. While this is just one anecdote, it suggests that it's more lucrative to play football than say, join the track team. There will be new up-front money available to white football players, even if they are fringe (or screwed over).
Circling back to the 47/50 thing, I'd mostly chalk that up to our overlords, who I'll call here the Canaanite Sorcerors. Their spells have infected a lot of people with biases, and for that, I like the term 'Mass Formation Psychosis.'
As a mitigating factor, we have to mention Human Biodiversity, or to be clear that blacks mature earlier on average. If you accept that this is true, it still indicts the scouts who fail to account for this, which brings us back to overlords and attitudes and biases.
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As I've stated here for years, this is a huge factor as to why the pool is smaller and shrinking. Was at many a baseball fields with my son coming through and it was like 99% white. When he switched to track it was 99% black. Sometimes he was the only white athlete in the 100/200M in ALL age groups. With speed being emphasized, blacks have the advantage as they are on the track right out of the womb.
If you want to play football, you need to forget about baseball and run track against the fastest competition. It's a tremendous help in courage, the willingness to compete against blacks. Forget basketball as well unless you're 6'5 or taller. Get them in wrestling. Again it teaches courage among other things like how to tackle.
There's nowhere to hide on the wrestling mat and the track!! We need more COURAGEOUS white athletes!
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Agreed. I have ultimate respect for wrestlers. They’re the nondescript guys you never want to mess with.
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This is a great post I over looked at the time. I think it is an astute observation that the White talent pool is coming from conservative families and conservative areas. Most likely a super majority. Nick Bosa is no outlier.
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All this talk about BQDS made me want to scratch my itch. Figured I’d check in again with the dregs of NFL QBs to see if the worst performers (at least by QB rating) were still the magical ones. Yep, still are.
In fact, it looks like the bottom tier has gotten even blacker since last check. 8 of the bottom 10 and 9 of the bottom 15. Some of the blacks are big names too like Richardson, Penix, Young and Watson. Rattler and Ridder also got alot of draft buzz and positive press coming into the league. Conversely, the only Whites that are big disappointments on here are Daniel Jones, Levis and maybe Mac Jones. Tim Boyle is not an NFL QB and is just as guilty of taking a spot away from a more deserving White QB.
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I thought I would put this here rather than cluttering up the Wild Card Round thread which should be focused more on actual game comments and player tracking. In the late game today, I would normally like for Coach Tomlin to continue his playoff win drought, this year is an exception. Lamar Jackson is my least favorite of all of the black QB's since he is the modern day template and exception. Many raw (as in bad) inexperienced black QB's have been and will be drafted high and given every benefit of the doubt because of what he has accomplished.
Give him credit, he was terrible coming out of college and his first couple of years in the league. He was able to learn and overcome to be what he is. I would say he's a one-to-five percenter in this regards but largely because of him the onslaught is accelerated. Prime example of course is a player like Anthony Richardson, but others like Dorian Thompson-Robinson (who has no business even putting on a uniform) and countless others are here because they might be the "next Lamar Jackson!"
He may get the MVP this year. Deserved? Maybe, maybe not. Last year I was particularly pleased with his playoff implosion after receiving the award, hopefully that trend will continue! It would be funny to read the post-game commentary about how the "old master" Russell Wilson, schools the young buck MVP.......
Give him credit, he was terrible coming out of college and his first couple of years in the league. He was able to learn and overcome to be what he is. I would say he's a one-to-five percenter in this regards but largely because of him the onslaught is accelerated. Prime example of course is a player like Anthony Richardson, but others like Dorian Thompson-Robinson (who has no business even putting on a uniform) and countless others are here because they might be the "next Lamar Jackson!"
He may get the MVP this year. Deserved? Maybe, maybe not. Last year I was particularly pleased with his playoff implosion after receiving the award, hopefully that trend will continue! It would be funny to read the post-game commentary about how the "old master" Russell Wilson, schools the young buck MVP.......
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The openly biased and racist black media talking heads, DWFs, militant black fan push for Lamar Jackson to get a 3rd MVP is enough for me. The goal posts seem to keep moving for MVP in order for the narrative to fit Lamar Jackson's season. This year he is better statistically so that is what the award is about. Last year he was not the best QB statistically yet still got the MVP because he was somehow the "best player". Obvious engineering and manipulation around the award to push an agenda. Another reason I will never acknowledge the supposed greatness of black QBs.
Lamar Jackson 2023 stats: 3,678 passing yards, 24 touchdowns, 7 INTs, 821 rushing yards, 5 TDs - Team record 13-4
Josh Allen 2023 stats: 4,306 passing yards, 29 touchdowns, 18 INTs, 524 rushing yards, 15 TDs - Team record 11-6
Lamar Jackson 2024 stats: 4,172 passing yards, 41 touchdowns, 4 INTs, sacked 23 times, 915 rushing yards 4 TDs - Team record 12-5
Josh Allen 2024 stats: 3,731 passing yards, 28 touchdowns, 6 INTs, sacked 14 times, 531 rushing yards, 12 TDs - Team record 13-4
This goes without mentioning Jackson has one of the three best RBs in the league along with McCaffery and Barkley. Henry is having an MVP type season himself. The Bills on the other hand traded away their best WR and Allen led the team to a better record. As an aside it is worth mentioning that only Purdy gets knocked for having weapons around him that are the reason for his success while in the case of Jackson and Hurts it is never brought up.
Lamar Jackson 2023 stats: 3,678 passing yards, 24 touchdowns, 7 INTs, 821 rushing yards, 5 TDs - Team record 13-4
Josh Allen 2023 stats: 4,306 passing yards, 29 touchdowns, 18 INTs, 524 rushing yards, 15 TDs - Team record 11-6
Lamar Jackson 2024 stats: 4,172 passing yards, 41 touchdowns, 4 INTs, sacked 23 times, 915 rushing yards 4 TDs - Team record 12-5
Josh Allen 2024 stats: 3,731 passing yards, 28 touchdowns, 6 INTs, sacked 14 times, 531 rushing yards, 12 TDs - Team record 13-4
This goes without mentioning Jackson has one of the three best RBs in the league along with McCaffery and Barkley. Henry is having an MVP type season himself. The Bills on the other hand traded away their best WR and Allen led the team to a better record. As an aside it is worth mentioning that only Purdy gets knocked for having weapons around him that are the reason for his success while in the case of Jackson and Hurts it is never brought up.