Bin Laden Dead!

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Parody said:
Cindy Sheehan- "If You Believe The Newest Death Of Osama Bin Laden YOU'RE STUPID!"Â￾





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Cindy was very cogent and calmly indignant in this "interview". Notice how the heads at CNN were trying to make sure "DrDrew" kept her in line? I liked her response to BO's ridiculous and false statement as to why they won't release the photos of the dead bogeyman, Osama, when BO says "that's not what we are". No? Really? Yet he has no problem ordering the firing of drone missiles into wedding parties and other civilian gatherings in Pakistan, killing hundreds, with the goal of trying to incite violence and hate for us amongst the Pakistan people.

CNN is an absolute freakin' joke and the people that actually watch that channel are zombies. "DrDrew" has certainly come a long way since giving explicit sexual advice to young teenagers and treating junkies...or has he?...now that he's become a prostitute for CNN.
 

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Right now the BO adminstration is actively attempting to kill an American citizen who was born in Arizona with predator drones without due process. He is thought to be living in Yeman. Where are the war protestors, ACLU, Code Pink, Amnesty International and all of the other peaceniks and socially aware / pacifics out there?

Oh yeah, I forgot its their guy in office, never mind.
 

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Westside said:
Right now the BO adminstration is actively attempting to kill an American citizen who was born in Arizona with predator drones without due process. He is thought to be living in Yeman. Where are the war protestors, ACLU, Code Pink, Amnesty International and all of the other peaceniks and socially aware / pacifics out there?



Oh yeah, I forgot its their guy in office, never mind.
Very true. Nothing but silence. If this were Bu$h (whom I despised as well), they'd justifiably be up-in-arms, but now that their boy-wonder-turned-King is in there, everything is just fine-and-dandy. Hypocrisy. They are probably afraid of not being able to continue to receive donations from the stupefied masses, hypnotized by the BS of BO.
 

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Interesting interview from 2001 with Bin Laden. Here's the introduction and the full interview can be read in the link:

Ummat's introduction

Kabul: Prominent Arab mojahed holy warrior Usamah Bin-Ladin has said that he or his al-Qa'idah group has nothing to do with the 11 September suicidal attacks in Washington and New York. He said the US government should find the attackers within the country. In an exclusive interview with daily "Ummat", he said these attacks could be the act of those who are part of the American system and are rebelling against it and working for some other system. Or, Usamah said, this could be the act of those who want to make the current century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. Or, the American Jews, who are opposed to President Bush ever since the Florida elections, might be the masterminds of this act. There is also a great possibility of the involvement of US intelligence agencies, which need billions of dollars worth of funds every year. He said there is a government within the government in the United States.


Bin Laden denies involvement in 9/11 in interview
 

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Thanks, that's an interesting read. Here a quote from the interview:

Osama: I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom. This system is totally in control of the American Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is simply that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the US is not uttering a single word.
 

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I'm really tired of hearing about Osama bin Laden. This country has tons of more pressing problems to deal with, but I guess the bin Laden killing is the easy thing to obsess about by the Obama administration and the MSM.
 

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here's a well-researched article that points out much of the inuendo, double talking, and outright lies involved in the "official" fiction regarding Bin Laden's death. i'll quote it below, complete with links as well, in case the original article gets "mysteriously" removed.
Media Scrambles as Bin Laden Story Crumbles

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While the establishment media was busy parroting President Obama's announcement of Osama bin Laden's supposed assassination, reporting the unsubstantiated claims as if they were unquestionable facts, much of the so-called "alternative" press was far more cautiousâ€" and accurate, it turns out. But more importantly, with the new official storyline indicating that bin Laden was in fact unarmed, bigger and much more important questions are beginning to emerge.


In terms of coverage, it turns out that the skeptical approach proved far superior in terms of getting it right. Countless mainstream sources were so confident in Obama's word that they reported many of the claims as fact without even attributing them to the President.

But the official White House narrative has been changed so many times in recent days that now it's almost unrecognizable. There wasn‘t even a fire fight; yet this was one of the crucial elements of the original story that justified the assassination of a person the government painted as the most valuable source of information on the planet â€" the leader of al-Qaeda. And in reporting the statements as fact, the establishment press has officially been left with egg all over its face again.

"[Bin Laden] was engaged in a firefight with those that entered the area of the house he was in," said terror czar John Brennan. Similarly, Obama said that "after a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body."Â The next day, however, the White House spokesman admitted bin Laden "was not armed." Trying to save face and justify the killing of an unarmed man, the spokesman added, without elaborating, that "resistance does not require a firearm."

More than a few other important parts of the storyline have been altered, contradicted, or simply exposed as false, too. Everything from which ofbin Laden's sons was supposedly killed to the claim that his wife was killed after being used as a "human shield" Ã¢â‚¬" all of it has changed for some reason or another. The transcript after Brennan's speech was altered to change the name of the dead son. The new and improved narrative now says that not only was bin Laden's wife not killed, but that she was not used as a human shield.

Originally the White House also suggested top officials watched the raid live through a video feed. Terror czar Brennan, for example, claimed that they "had real-time visibility into the progress of the operation."Â CIA boss Leon Panetta later exposed that claim as false in an interview with PBS, saying: "There was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes that we really didn't know just exactly what was going on."

That means the "photo op"Â of Obama and other officials intently "watching"Â the operation in the "Situation Room"Â was almost certainly staged for the press. And almost every media outlet that ran the picture used inaccurate captions parroting the White House claims.

And there's more. The night of the raid, one administration official told reporters that a helicopter was lost due to mechanical failure. During that same briefing, another administration official said, "We didn't say it was mechanical." Now they claim the crash had something to do with the temperature at bin Laden's supposed compound.

A poorly photo-shopped image of a dead bin Laden embarrassed a large swath of the world press and several Senators, too. Shortly after newspapers and television stations around the globe ran the image, it was exposed as a shoddy forgery that had been circulating for years. Now Obama said he "decided" not to release any picturesâ€" or any other evidence that any element of the story is true, for that matter.

And then there's the burial issue. The Obama administration originally claimed no country would accept the body; so, it was dumped at sea â€" Mafia style â€" in accordance with what Obama alleged were Islamic traditions and customs. When prominent Muslim theological leaders repudiated that lie and noted that it was actually a violation of Islamic tenets to bury Osama bin Laden in the ocean, the new line was that the decision was to avoid the creation of a "shrine." That lie fell apart, too, when it was widely reported that bin Laden's brand of Islam calls for unmarked graves â€" building any sort of shrine would have been blasphemous. So far, no new excuses have been concocted for allegedly feeding the body to the fish.

After the numerous discrepancies and falsehoods in the storyline became painfully obvious, the Associated Press, USA Today, Fox News and other outlets slowly and begrudgingly started to report it. "From the first moments, a good number of the details about bin Laden's killing, on points large and small, have been wrong,"Â admitted a Fox reporter in one of the more candid acknowledgements to appear in the mainstream press.

But of course, most of the media were also dutifully offering and parroting all manner of excuses. "Fog of war"Â was to blame for the confusion, claimed the White House spokesman after that excuse was suggested to him by a member of the "press"Â corps asking a question. Virtually every major news outlet reporting the changes in the official story promptly blamed "fog of war,"Â too.

An apologist reporter at USA Today wrote that "the administration did its best to get the story quickly,"Â adding "it's common situation with military action."Â The paper quoted a Pentagon spokesperson under the Bush administration to bolster its case.

The AP offered a similar excuse along with the "fog of combat"Â line offered by the White House. "The contradictions and misstatements reflect the fact that even in the case of a highly successful and popular mission, the confusion inherent in a fast-paced, unpredictable military raid conducted under intense pressure in a foreign country does not lend itself immediately to a tidy story line,"Â the reporter claimed, citing "some experts."Â

Several excuses for the ever-changing story were offered by other publications, too. The possibility that they were deliberate lies or worse was virtually never addressed. But the U.K. Independent noted: "The impression persists that the administration sought to cast the operation in the most heroic light possible, at the expense of the facts."Â

Now, the President and his spokespeople and subordinates are refusing to offer more details or explanations. The government has also announced that it will not be releasing pictures or any other evidence to support its claims even as suspicions continue to mount.

But as analysts pointed out, the newly revealed fact that there was no fire fight begs the question about where the "fog"Â may have come from. And even more importantly: Why, in the absence of a fire fight, would U.S. forces put a bullet through the brain supposedly containing the most valuable intelligence on the planet? What if bin Laden knew where that alleged nuclear bomb in Europe was located that was set to detonate after his capture or death? None of those questions have been addressed so far.

But prominent critics are sounding the alarm. "When such a foundational story as the demise of bin Laden cannot last 48 hours without acknowledged ‘discrepancies' that require fundamental alternations to the story, there are grounds for suspicion in addition to the suspicions arising from the absence of a dead body, from the absence of any evidence that bin Laden was killed in the raid or that a raid even took place," noted Paul Craig Roberts, a senior official in the former Reagan administration in a piece entitled "The Agendas Behind the bin Laden News Event."Â

Roberts raised several important questions, too, as well as some comparisons. "The entire episode could just be another event like the August 4, 1964, Gulf of Tonkin event that never happened but succeeded in launching open warfare against North Vietnam at a huge cost to Americans and Vietnamese and enormous profits to the military/security complex,"Â he suggested, citing a series of government deceptions that have led to war based on lies and other atrocities.

Roberts suspects there are more lies about the bin Laden narrative than those exposed so far. And he's certainly not alone. It emerged recently that the man who owned the house next to bin Laden's supposed compound doesn't even believe the story either. "To be honest, it's not true,"Â he told Al Jazeera.

As the official story continues to be re-written by the administration and those in the media who simply re-package government press releases, critics and skeptics would seem to be justified in wondering what other lies and "fog of war" changes may emerge in the coming weeks and months. And perhaps even more importantly, we might also wonder if there are lies that may never be exposed in their entirety?
 

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Ludicrous Bin Laden "Porno"Â Claim Harks Back To CIA Fakery

Paul Joseph Watson
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The US government must be quite disappointed with the fact that Islamic extremists have yet to attack the United States in "retaliation" for allegedly killing Bin Laden, because they seem to be doing everything in their power to rile up terrorists â€" this time with the claim that a significant stash of pornography was found in Bin Laden's compound.

"A stash of pornography was found in the hideout of Osama bin Laden by the U.S. commandos who killed him, current and former U.S. officials said on Friday,"Â reports Reuters.

"The pornography recovered in bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, consists of modern, electronically recorded video and is fairly extensive, according to the officials, who discussed the discovery with Reuters on condition of anonymity."Â

These "officials"Â were unable to explain how there came to be an "extensive"Â stash of electronic porn in a house that had no Internet connection.

But the real story behind yet another ludicrous turn in the manufactured Osama fable is the fact that CIA spooks admitted to creating fake videotapes which featured an actor dressed up as Bin Laden bragging about how he liked to have sex with boys.

On May 25 last year, the Washington Post reported on how the Agency had dreamed up ideas of discrediting both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.

In Bin Laden's case, the spooks, "Actually did make a video purporting to show Osama bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquests with boys,"Â a former CIA officer told the Post's Jeff Stein.

The actors were drawn from "some of us darker-skinned employees,"Â he added.

We also learn that the CIA's fake Bin Laden tape operation, not a conspiracy theory but an admitted fact, was subsequently taken over by crack psychological warfare personnel at Fort Bragg, the army's special warfare center, which was presumably responsible for the dubious Bin Laden tapes released by the White House last weekend.

So having admitted to the fact that they produced fake videotapes of "Bin Laden"Â bragging about having sex with boys, the same intelligence complex, that has been caught over and over again lying about the alleged Bin Laden raid, now tells us that they found a huge stash of downloaded porn in a house that had no Internet connection.

This is P2OG in full force â€" the Bush-era black-ops program designed to "stimulate reactions" amongst terrorists â€" it's like repeatedly hitting a wasp nest with a stick. They won't need to pull a false flag because by deliberately enflaming anger throughout the Muslim world with continual taunts about how Bin Laden was gunned down in cold blood in his pajamas, about how he cowered and threw his wife in front of the gun, about his perverted porn stash, the Obama administration is virtually guaranteeing the backlash from which they will then reap the political capital.

Calls from top Democratic political operatives for Obama to exploit a new terror attack in order to re-establish his image as a strong leader will come to fruition if the White House continues to use the fabled raid to try and goad terrorists into striking back.

We were told that Obama and his White House staff had agreed to put a lock down on any information about the raid as soon as it was announced, in order to harness the presumed intelligence value of the material in the compound and keep "Al-Qaeda"Â second guessing.

Instead, the American people have been bombarded with endless lurid tails about terrorists planning to attack trains, the intricate details of Bin Laden's fearsome personal diary, and a myriad of other PR stunts that prove there's no effort to harness the intelligence at all â€" most likely because it's as phony as the ludicrous notion that Bin Laden's house was full of porn.

Whatever next will they claim in an effort to ensure that the Bin Laden fairytale continues to dominate the news cycle? Perhaps next we'll be told it was gay porn, or bestiality? Maybe they'll discover Bin Laden's sex doll. The fable has already scaled such heights of absurdity â€" don't be surprised by anything.

http://www.infowars.com/ludicrous-bin-laden-porno-claim-harks-back-to-cia-fakery/Edited by: DixieDestroyer
 
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Keep in mind the porn that they are talking about could be pictures of unveiled women driving cars.
 

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When they start losing credibility over an event (like this), they turn to "Character Assassination" of the antagonist (the bogeyman Osama) to help justify their actions ("the ends justifies the means") and prevent the asking of the very important questions that should be asked.

The antagonist is publicly "demonized" to an incredulous level (posthumously, of course, with no chance to defend oneself) so as to paint as negative of a portrayal as possible and keep the stupefied masses on their side..."What? bin Laden was boasting of having sex with young boys? I'm sure glad we got rid of that sum'bitch."

It's subterfuge on the part of the PTB and part-and-parcel of their disinformation/misinformation/propaganda or "Information War" campaign as Hillary recently called it when in front of Congress a few months back requesting additional funds because she claimed "they" (her, and the PTB) were "losing the Information War".
 

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Osama Bin Laden was supposedly, allegedly, purportedly “killed” exactly two years ago (May 2011). Back then, the “evidence” provided by our “elected” “officials” was little more than the bizarre account of a handful of chief Fed-Pigs and their Footsoldiers O’ Ziony. You know, how “Operation Neptune Spear” located Bin Laden’s shoddy apartment in Pakistan, managed to crash a helicopter in his front lawn, then “Seal Team 6” sprung into action, allegedly breaking into the apartment and murdering him. Instead of confirming his death in any way, shape, or form, they allegedly transported his body to Afghanistan, then decided to float his remains into the sea (presumably the Gulf of Oman or North Arabian Sea, several hundred miles south of Afghanistan). Oh, right, and the whole charade (sorry, “operation”) was under the guiding, watchful eye of Madam President, First Lady Josephine Biden, Hillary Harpy, and other assorted U.S. figureheads…

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Anyway, the professional buffoons announced recently that they won’t ever be releasing the “grisly” photos of Bin Laden’s “death.” From the Washington Post…

The conservative-leaning group Judicial Watch had been pressing the Department of Defense and the Central Intelligence Agency to release at least a subset of 59 photos of bin Laden after he was killed in a May 2011 raid on his compound in Pakistan.

In a 14-page opinion, the three-judge panel wrote that it was persuaded by testimony submitted by national security officials who reviewed the photos and said in court papers that they were ‘“quite graphic” and “gruesome” pictures displaying the bullet wound that killed bin Laden.

Attorneys for Judicial Watch had argued that other seemingly innocuous images that depict a dignified burial at sea were unlikely to cause any damage to U.S. national security. But the court said these weren’t just any photos, but “an extraordinary set of images” of U.S. military personnel burying the mastermind behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

“It is undisputed that the government is withholding the images not to shield wrongdoing or avoid embarrassment, but rather to prevent the killing of Americans and violence against American interests,”
according to the opinion of Judges Merrick B. Garland, Judith W. Rogers and Harry T. Edwards.
The court made specific reference to other instances in which national security officials said similar disclosures had incited anti-American violence. The officials pointed to uproars over an erroneous report that American soldiers had desecrated the Koran and the publication of a Danish cartoon of the prophet Muhammad.

Under the Freedom of Information Act, government agencies are exempt from disclosing records in the interest of national defense or foreign policy
. Judicial Watch argued that such exemptions are too vague, but courts have generally deferred to the executive branch when it comes to classified information.

Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said the group’s lawyers are considering whether to appeal.

“Photos of American military personnel burying Osama bin Laden will remain classified, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday.


The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit sided with the government in finding that the release of postmortem images of the founder and leader of al-Qaeda could cause “exceptionally grave harm” to Americans.

The courts need to stop rubberstamping this administration’s improper secrecy,” Fitton said in a statement. “There is no provision of the Freedom of Information Act that allows documents to be kept secret because their release might offend our terrorist enemies.”

The group had also challenged the process the government used to mark the photos as classified. While the court acknowledged that it did not have enough information from the CIA to determine whether the agency had followed its own guidelines, it deferred to testimony from the head of the CIA’s National Clandestine Service who said he personally reviewed the images and approved the top-secret label.

Hey, if they really wanted to avoid “exceptionally grave harm” to Americans…then perhaps they shouldn’t have killed Bin Laden (and millions of other Muslims) in the first place? Perhaps they shouldn’t have stolen the land of Muslim Palestinians and given it to vile Israelis nearly 70 years ago? Perhaps they shouldn’t have allowed Jews to infiltrate every single media, government, religious, entertainment, and educational institution in America and subsequently poison them with anti-Muslim rhetoric (among an infinite death-bouquet of undesirable qualities)? Perhaps they shouldn’t have gotten involved in providing weaponry and unlimited funds to Israel so that they could murder Muslims more efficiently? Perhaps they shouldn’t have sent thousands of white soldiers to their deaths in some faraway sandbox over the past 25 years in order to slaughter Muslims so that the Satanic Star of David could be unfurled with impunity?

Israel and its Western-based citizenry are the greatest outbreak of human-pestilence to ever inflict this planet. “Exceptionally grave harm” is exactly what this ignoble clan so thoroughly deserves. But, in standard fashion, our feloniously-ugly, war-mongering, notoriously-Marxist, hyper-violent, militantly-liberal, porn-peddling, media-owning, stock-trading, Apartheid-smashing, Hollywood-tainting, economy-razing, sideburn-braiding, dreidel-twirling, phallic-challenged “ancient allies” will deflect this carnage upon white Americans. Such is the existance of an ethno-religious group that has been “oppressed” (more like “oppressive”) for thousands of years.
 

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Osama bin Boogyman actually died in Dec. 2001.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

I saw this thread and I thought they brought him back to life yet again.

Bin Boogy lived in gigantic ultramodern super-caverns in the Himalayan foothills - not one but many of them! - from which he commanded his evil minions who hated the USA and Israel because they are evil and hate freedom, and they flew planes into Larry Silverstein's heavily insured skyscrapers on 911 even though they didn't know how to fly and weren't even on board.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGhGHxw0mSo

Here's Rumsfeld instructing us how bin Boogy had not just one of those super-caves, but many of them. We are not expected to remember any of this.
 
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Disappointing decision by the courts as always. But how could they release pictures that would show something the govt does not want known? The courts cannot do that anymore, they are no longer independent.

I think the courts were the last bastion of semi-freedom in this country to fall. For a while they maintained some independence in some areas of the country. It's all over now. They are just another arm of the whole complex and really nothing can be expected from them.

Once in a while an occasional judge does something crazy and off the reservation. I think that's why the courts remained independent for so long, the individual nature of the job meant that once in a while you would get someone that didn't follow the program. The system is much more careful now, those types of people don't end up on courts anymore.
 

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One of Bin Ladin's super-caverns as depicted in the mass media in the USA and UK. Sec. of State Rumsfeld (link above) said that Bin Ladin had many of them, not just one. We are not supposed to remember any of this bull****!

Then they tell us they threw the evidence, the body, into the ocean. Give me a f'ing break!

They told us they buried the remains of OK City under tons of rubble and then fenced in the debris with barbed wire and armed guards - because they wanted "to start the healing process". That is what they said!

They shipped off the remains of the WTC towers to Asia to be melted down before any forensic examination could be conducted (see Fire Engineering magazine's outraged editorial on this!). They even declared it a felony to take photos at ground zero.

The real Bin Ladin made a speech after 911 stating that he had nothing to do with it and said it violated the precepts of Islam. This speech was censored in the US mass media. But they told us that they just accidentally happened upon a vcr tape lying around the sprawling city of Jalalabad the day after they invaded it (was it marked in giant day glo letters "Bin Ladin confession tape" with huge flashing lights pointing to it?), and they tell us this miraculously discovered tape showed Bin Ladin confessing to 911 - never mind that the "Bin Ladin" on the tape was a fat right handed Negro with gold rings (BL was left handed and gold is forbidden to Islamic men and he wasn't a fat negro either!), and the speech wasn't even translated correctly either (as revealed on prime time German tv)

And how many Americans and Brits are so fattened up and dumbed down that they actually believe this bull****!?
 
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I remember there was a huge ****storm on trying to find a place to bury the Boston bomber recently, no cemetery would take him. That shouldn't be an issue though because according to the government Muslims prefer to be buried at sea. :twitch:

That or the government is full of ****.
 

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If I committed a crime I too would like to bury the evidence under tons of rubble, or ship it off to the far ends of the earth to be melted down asap, or thrown in the ocean "to start the healing process".
 

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The Sandy Hook thread was locked, but this thread has similar elements, so I'll post this here.

It looks like the skeptics were 100% correct. I certainly believe them now. The whole thing is being scoured clean by the fire of the law. They're already demolishing the school. Now they have to erase the existence of anyone supposedly involved in this event.

The staffs of the state's top prosecutor and the governor's office have been working in secret with General Assembly leaders on legislation to withhold records related to the police investigation into the Dec. 14 Newtown elementary school massacre — including victims' photos, tapes of 911 calls, and possibly more.
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He said as he sees the legislation, it would apply to "basically crime scene photographs depicting injuries to victims and recordings, 911 recordings displaying the mental anguish of victims. Things like that, of that category. And it seems to me that the intrusion of the privacy of the individuals outweighs any public interest in seeing these."
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As originally discussed behind the scenes, the proposed legislation would have amended the state's freedom of information law by adding a blanket exemption to disclosure of any "criminal investigation photograph, film, videotape, other image or recording or report depicting or describing the victim or victims."

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-newtown-foi-0522-20130521,0,2316671.story
 
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