Alexander Povetkin

[Ambrose]

Povetkin's promoter wins the purse bid.

Will the pampered, very protected Wilder be brave enough to fight the smaller Povetkin in Russia?

Andrey Ryabinsky wins purse bid for Deontay Wilder-Alexander Povetkin fight

For 4.5 million, maybe Wilder will go to Russia?

 

[Charles Martel]

For 4.5 million, maybe Wilder will go to Russia?

I think his handlers will want him too. They will receive a cut of the money.

But at the moment, I imagine Deontay "The Great Black Hope" Wilder is trembling in fear.

 

[Ambrose]

I think his handlers will want him too. They will receive a cut of the money.

But at the moment, I imagine Deontay "The Great Black Hope" Wilder is trembling in fear.

Realistically, I think there is some fear in getting hit by Povetkin who steps in and fights with hard hitting combos that he will have to find a answer to. I think, also, he won't like going there because it will be a hostile environment because he won't get the adoration the DWFs give him on U.S. ground, he won't understand what is being said about him in Russian and he'll feel foreign, he'll have to face foreign drug testing that may reveal PEDs, and, he'll have to pay taxes, tariffs, fees, etc. in both Russia and United States which will really diminish his takings. So, yeah, I'd say he really doesn't want to go to Russia.

 

[Ambrose]

Wilder now says he has no problem going to Russia.

http://www.boxingscene.com/wilders-manager-there-no-issue-going-russia-povetkin--101860

There's no venue, card, or contract yet but it seems like its a go. I have not analysed this enough yet but it seems a 51/49 fight with Wilder having a slight advantage with his reach combined with a will to win. Povetkin has a great chin, an equal will to win, good power, better defense and better know-how but the old rules of evaluation still suggest he's a slight underdog no matter where they fight.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

I am still highly doubtful the fight actually happens. Wilder does deserve credit if the fight happens, but I'll believe that when I see it and think him vacating is more realistic. The criticism of Wilder is not personal just that he took a very easy route to the title and since he won the title has fought 2 non-contenders and 1 borderline top20 heavyweight (Szpilka), who I thought should have been ahead on the cards at the time of the KO. Szpilka is really the only credible win against a top-20 opponent on his record, and he now has over 35 fights.

Povetkin has beaten much better opposition in the pro and amateur ranks than has Wilder. Povetkin is vastly more experienced than Wilder when you compare their amateur careers, in fact the fight may look like an experienced pro (Povetkin) VS an overwhelmed amateur (Wilder).

I have a pretty good record when it comes to predicting fights. Of course, no one is right all of the time, but I'm generally in the right area and would say I am correct more than 75% of the time. I think the most likely result in this fight is Povetkin to win. I think he is a much, much, much, better fighter than Wilder. The only thing I could see posing a problem for Alex is the height and reach of Wilder. But there are many examples of fights where the smaller man wins (Frampton beating Quigg yesterday), and in my opinion there is too much of a skill gap between the 2, that even with his size advantage Wilder will still lose. The truth is, Wilder has looked awful in his last fight VS Szpilka, and Szpilka is nowhere near as good as Alex. If Szpilka can do that good, Alex will do much better. I thought Szpilka was ahead in the fight at the time of KO. Wilder's power saved him, but Alex is too smart and too technical to get caught like Artur did.

I like Alex to win the fight. I feel pretty confident he beats Wilder. There is a good chance its on a KO as well. Alex has knocked a lot of guys out and Wilder is there to be hit...

Would love to see the casino odds on this one. I bet Alex is a reasonable (-150 or greater) favourite. The fight would probably be even money or Alex a very small favourite if it was in USA, but since it looks like it will be in Russia, I'm thinking Alex is a clear favourite (-150 or more).

 

[Ambrose]

I am still highly doubtful the fight actually happens. Wilder does deserve credit if the fight happens, but I'll believe that when I see it and think him vacating is more realistic. The criticism of Wilder is not personal just that he took a very easy route to the title and since he won the title has fought 2 non-contenders and 1 borderline top20 heavyweight (Szpilka), who I thought should have been ahead on the cards at the time of the KO. Szpilka is really the only credible win against a top-20 opponent on his record, and he now has over 35 fights.

Povetkin has beaten much better opposition in the pro and amateur ranks than has Wilder. Povetkin is vastly more experienced than Wilder when you compare their amateur careers, in fact the fight may look like an experienced pro (Povetkin) VS an overwhelmed amateur (Wilder).

I have a pretty good record when it comes to predicting fights. Of course, no one is right all of the time, but I'm generally in the right area and would say I am correct more than 75% of the time. I think the most likely result in this fight is Povetkin to win. I think he is a much, much, much, better fighter than Wilder. The only thing I could see posing a problem for Alex is the height and reach of Wilder. But there are many examples of fights where the smaller man wins (Frampton beating Quigg yesterday), and in my opinion there is too much of a skill gap between the 2, that even with his size advantage Wilder will still lose. The truth is, Wilder has looked awful in his last fight VS Szpilka, and Szpilka is nowhere near as good as Alex. If Szpilka can do that good, Alex will do much better. I thought Szpilka was ahead in the fight at the time of KO. Wilder's power saved him, but Alex is too smart and too technical to get caught like Artur did.

I like Alex to win the fight. I feel pretty confident he beats Wilder. There is a good chance its on a KO as well. Alex has knocked a lot of guys out and Wilder is there to be hit...

Would love to see the casino odds on this one. I bet Alex is a reasonable (-150 or greater) favourite. The fight would probably be even money or Alex a very small favourite if it was in USA, but since it looks like it will be in Russia, I'm thinking Alex is a clear favourite (-150 or more).

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Interesting thoughts. I'll wait a while yet before writing a firm fight prediction.

 

[Ambrose]

Just read on boxingscene the fights going to Russia. Good for Sasha.

 

[Charles Martel]

Deontay Wilder vs Alexander Povetkin is now set for May 21st in Moscow, Russia.

 

[Charles Martel]

 

[white lightning]

Awesome news. I'm pumped for this fight!

 

[Ambrose]

Andrei Ryabinsky, Povetkin's promoter, has secured VADA as the drug testing association for this fight. Ryabinsky has made public statements this past week through boxing media that Wilder better not be or try any doping for this fight because the testing is going to be very, very strict. Actually, his comments were taken more like warnings. It is typically negotiated in these contracts that a fighter has to pass drug testing before some or even all of the respective purse is awarded. I'm starting to wonder if Wilder will really go to Russia after all...

 

[whiteathlete33]

Tyson Fury is picking Wilder to beat Povetkin. We really, really need to get Wilder out of there. Hopefully Povetkin can deliver. The only thing that worries me is the size and length difference.

 

[Ambrose]

Tyson Fury is picking Wilder to beat Povetkin. We really, really need to get Wilder out of there. Hopefully Povetkin can deliver. The only thing that worries me is the size and length difference.

Your doubt is valid; not a certain win for Povetkin as Wilder has so much reach and height over him. Still thinking this fight over and haven't picked a side yet.

 

[Charles Martel]

Alexander Povetkin talks about his fight against WBC heavyweight title holder Deontey Wilder on May 21 in Moscow.

— Your first thoughts, when you found out that fight will happen?

— Of course, I was glad. That’s why I have normal thoughts about it (smiling). Our way to this fight was long enough and finally it will take place.

— Are you still sticking to your usual philosophy before this fight: “The most difficult opponent is next”?

— Yes, no changes: the most difficult opponent is your next.

— Do you have any changes in your mood for this fight in comparison to previous one? It is a title fight that is moreover called the most prestigious.

— I always had a title fight, that’s why I have mood, in principle, as always.

— Before this fight, Wilder said that he is going to use Vladimir Klitchko’s tactic that can help him win. Are you ready to clinch most part of fight, if it will be necessary?

— I was a different fighter during our fight with Klitchko. Now everything is different, and I'm ready to clinch in different way. I have enough physical strength.

— Everyone noticed unusual Wilder’s activity before your fight: he is calling himself “Black Rocky”, making a lot of posts in social networks and giving interviews regular. What do you think why he is so atypical active?

— Maybe he is nervous.

 

[Ambrose]

Alexander Povetkin talks about his fight against WBC heavyweight title holder Deontey Wilder on May 21 in Moscow.

— Your first thoughts, when you found out that fight will happen?

— Of course, I was glad. That’s why I have normal thoughts about it (smiling). Our way to this fight was long enough and finally it will take place.

— Are you still sticking to your usual philosophy before this fight: “The most difficult opponent is next”?

— Yes, no changes: the most difficult opponent is your next.

— Do you have any changes in your mood for this fight in comparison to previous one? It is a title fight that is moreover called the most prestigious.

— I always had a title fight, that’s why I have mood, in principle, as always.

— Before this fight, Wilder said that he is going to use Vladimir Klitchko’s tactic that can help him win. Are you ready to clinch most part of fight, if it will be necessary?

— I was a different fighter during our fight with Klitchko. Now everything is different, and I'm ready to clinch in different way. I have enough physical strength.

— Everyone noticed unusual Wilder’s activity before your fight: he is calling himself “Black Rocky”, making a lot of posts in social networks and giving interviews regular. What do you think why he is so atypical active?

— Maybe he is nervous.

Hey Charlie, nice post. The interviewer may have misunderstood Wilder's team talking about using Klitschko's tactics because they are talking about fighting tall not clinching. Wilder is no clincher; haven't seen him clinch much in any fight. He gets nervous when pressured and throws straight shots as a defense. Ah but the 30 degree rule negates this!

 

[Charles Martel]

https://twitter.com/worldofbox/status/737591269409464321

@Ryabinskiy: We got new official Povetkin's drug-tests. They're clean. And now our rivals and some American reporters will be apologizing

 

[limitless]

From Eastside Boxing

The new doping test of the Russian boxer Alexander Povetkin, taken May 17, 2016, showed no traces of Meldonium. This was reported today by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) with reference to the results of analyses conducted by the laboratory in Los Angeles. The sample taken a week earlier also lacked traces of Meldonium. Thus, only one of Povetkin’s six samples revealed extremely low concentrations of the prohibited drug.

The new result proves that the positive sample in April was a residual effect of Mildronat taken last year. If the drug was taken in the period between April 11 and 27, traces would also have been found in the latest tests.



A.Ryabinsky, Povetkin’s promoter: “I want to emphasize that Alexander Povetkin has never taken any prohibited drugs. We will have to sue our American counterparts and some of the US tabloids that have expressed extremely unjustified views. One of them might be Dan Rafael from ESPN”.

According to Ryabinsky, the postponed fight should take place by the end of the year.

The Povetkin – Wilder fight was supposed to take place on May 21 at the Khodynka Ice Palace in Moscow. But it was postponed after one of the samples showed traces of Meldonium in extremely low concentrations – 70 nanograms.

According to WADA rules, if the doping test was carried out after March 1, 2016, and the substance content in it amounted to less than 1 µg further investigations are required to find out when the drug was taken. The World Boxing Council (WBC) has not yet taken a decision on canceling the fight or disqualifying Povetkin. The organization plans to conduct its own investigation.

 

[Charles Martel]

WADA Has Ruled, Certified Povetkin as Clean

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715695

 

[whiteathlete33]

WADA Has Ruled, Certified Povetkin as Clean

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715695

I always felt this was some kind of fix to get Wilder away from fighting Povetkin. The black dope knows he would lose and he dodged the fight. Now he's got another easy fight against a guy that is perfect for him in Arreola. That guy is low and has poor boxing skills but a big punch. His only chance is to land a monster shot.

 

[Ambrose]

I always felt this was some kind of fix to get Wilder away from fighting Povetkin. The black dope knows he would lose and he dodged the fight. Now he's got another easy fight against a guy that is perfect for him in Arreola. That guy is low and has poor boxing skills but a big punch. His only chance is to land a monster shot.

Yes, Wilder took the slightest excuse and ran away as fast as he could. A few grains of sulfur in the room and he bolted for the door like the whole building was going to explode. The good in all of it is he just gave Povetkin the distinct psychological edge between the two as Alex knows as well as we do that Wilder really IS afraid of fighting him.

Disagree he has such a monster punch. Szpilka knocked himself out up close, at a distance he took Wilder's punch no problem -so did Stiverne and Duhaupas (B-c level guys). Alex takes his punch but Wilder can't take Alex's; Wilder is as dumb as they come; Alex has a brain.

 

[werewolf]

As I have been saying all along, Wilder and his handlers never had any intention of fighting Povetkin.

Here are the “motion to dismiss” notes for the Wilder-Povetkin defamation lawsuit:

http://mmapayout.com/2016/08/deonta...-to-dismiss-against-povetkin-world-of-boxing/

Povetkin’s legal representatives wrote:

“The Complaint alleges that defendants were required to travel to Moscow, but instead cancelled their flights and left the World Boxing Council (“WBC”) with no choice but to postpone the contest.

While Defendants assert that they did not return to the United States until a day later, they do not contest the allegation that they announced their refusal to fly to Moscow in violation of their contractual obligations (and before the WBC’s announcement).”

 

[werewolf]

I figured Povetkin would do Wilder like he did Mike Perez, and I think Wilder's handlers thought so too.

Big Baby Miller on Wilder:

"“He’s always been very fragile. I’m not surprised he broke his fingernail. He’s built that way. That’s why he’ll only fight softies. His people don’t want any real opponents for him because they know how fragile he is. They are protecting him from an ass whipping"

Miller also said:

"Everybody hand-picks opponents these days. I just want to go in there and whip everybody’s ass. It’s always been hard to find opponents. Nobody wants to take any risks."

Yep.

 

[Charles Martel]

Povetkin-Stiverne coming up on Saturday.

 

[werewolf]

Bookie odds: 7 to 1 in favor of Povetkin.

 

[Ambrose]

Bookie odds: 7 to 1 in favor of Povetkin.

My odds: 10 to 1. Alex hasn't shown ring wear yet and grinds these types down and finishes them. He's also tough as concrete -Russian concrete.