Adam Gemeli World 100 Meters Junior Champion (10.05)

[Soccer&track]

This guy is clearly non-white. According to his Wikipedia page he is of Moroccan Iranian descent.

Seriously does anyone here think this guy is white :

I agree. He does not look white to me at all. He is definitely not west African, and I root for him as a caste buster, but I looked at a few pictures I found online and he looks middle eastern to me in pretty much all of them. Fwiw I did see one where he looks Italian, but I still can't say I consider him white.

 

[Don Wassall]

It took me all of 10 seconds to find this. :smiley:

Adam Gemili (born 6 October 1993) is a British sprinter who is of Moroccan Iranian descent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Gemili

 

[Keyser Soze]

99% of Moroccans are of Arab-Berber ethnicity so they are Caucasian alright. e.x The French Zinedine Zidane is of Berber heritage and he is like all Berbers 100% Caucasian infact they have the fairest skin of the north Africa ethnic groups they even have blond Berbers.

Iranian or else Persians (Iran comes from the world Aryan) are pure 100% Caucasians and non-Arabs .
No need to also point out that true Arabs are Caucasian too so.....

Good to see another probable sub 10 sec but i need to point out that athletes that have good potential coming out just before their county host the Summer Olympics is always something that crack me up ...always.

 

[white lightning]

For the record, middle easterns have always been considered white. He isn't black and he isn't asian. There are many dark skinned whites from the slavic regions to northern italy, etc. The middle east is one of the places where the european race came from. I will continue to root for this kid and he is that talented. He didn't run track until his late teens just like Lematire. Amazing natural talent.

 

[Arnold Von Winkelried]

That's a bunch of crap. Middle Easterners and Berbers aren't white at all. It has been proven that they are genetically far from Europeans. You American fellows have invented the term "Caucasian" that means nothing (even Indians are considered so), only the term white that refers to people of European descent has a good meaning in term of race.

I cannot agree about what has been said, I'm pro-white and I support the white race, but I won't support non-whites against other non-whites just to say that non-black people can run.

We, whites, against the other is the only true sane philosophy.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I have no relation to arabs or berbers or even Iranians but since anthopology and history is my passion those Berbers are white....period:

 

[Arnold Von Winkelried]

I have no relation to arabs or berbers or even Iranians but since anthopology and history is my passion those Berbers are white....period:

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What you don't understand is that race isn't just a matter of appearance, it's also a matter of blood. Summarize race to the look of people is similar to say that race is a social construct. These Berbers may have a drop of white blood, maybe because of Vandals potential ancestors, but they aren't white, nor European.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I would not call soccer player Zinedine Zidane a Kabyle-Berber as a sub-saharian ******* ... would you

 

[Keyser Soze]

What you don't understand is that race isn't just a matter of appearance, it's also a matter of blood. Summarize race to the look of people is similar to say that race is a social construct. These Berbers may have a drop of white blood, maybe because of Vandals potential ancestors, but they aren't white, nor European.

well Berbers are there since neolithic times . Most of north Africa in ancient times was a Caucasian land. Most sub-suharian people migrated north only in resent times mainly for job related migration.

Ancients Carthaginians where Caucasian already they didn't need Vandals to change their population

 

[Arnold Von Winkelried]

I've already said it before Caucasian (these fellows are considered Caucasians) isn't equal to white. Zidane shouldn't have played for any white teams exactly like no Blacks should play for any European teams. I'm pro-white and that's it. We're in any way out of topic and we should stop this debate here.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I've already said it before Caucasian (these fellows are considered Caucasians) isn't equal to white. Zidane shouldn't have played for any white teams exactly like no Blacks should play for any European teams. I'm pro-white and that's it. We're all the same out of topic and we should stop this debate here.

Well most North-West India is heavily migrated by Persian and Afghani population specially the Punjab area . They have "white" blood ....

I'm pro-white too but not that much :icon_mrgreen:

anyway ....

 

[frederic38]

It took me all of 10 seconds to find this. :smiley:

Adam Gemili (born 6 October 1993) is a British sprinter who is of Moroccan Iranian descent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Gemili

at the time we were having this discussion, this info was not available, otherwise it would have been easier :icon_grin:

i'll still root for him

 

[jacknyc]

Here's another guy of Iranian descent who had a big day today:

Photo by Craig Morley
Beverly Hills junior Alex Rohani (middle) won his 400 heat in the best time of the day at 47.53. (at the California HS Championships)
Beverly Hills junior Alex Rohani (middle) won his 400 heat in the best time of the day at 47.53.

 

[white lightning]

To put his performance into perspective, only 1 english sprinter has ever run faster at the age of 18. Simply incredible.
Here is a great article that gives you a history of the next young white sprinter who is destined to go sub 10!

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/news/gemili-clocks-100m-olympic-a-standard/

 

[elispeedster]

I've already said it before Caucasian (these fellows are considered Caucasians) isn't equal to white. Zidane shouldn't have played for any white teams exactly like no Blacks should play for any European teams. I'm pro-white and that's it. We're in any way out of topic and we should stop this debate here.

You will find Europeans as dark as Gemilli and are pure European. Are they White? I know an Irish fellow who is a splitting image of Zidane. Is the Irish fellow not White? Some pics of Adam has him dark skinned, others light. Its called suntan. I am as dark if not darker than he is in the summer, and in the winter I am very fair.

If White to you means North European - blond blue eyed etc. then fine I understand your point.

Is this Man 'White' or 'North African'...Ill give you a hint, he is British, but his parents immigrated from someplace else...

 

[Keyser Soze]

Adam Gemelli 10.08 video

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/videos/adam-gemilis-10-08/

very strange race!!! No6 obviously got a false start :suspicious:
How accurate are the timing and starting blocks sensors in this particular race?

 

[Arnold Von Winkelried]

You will find Europeans as dark as Gemilli and are pure European. Are they White? I know an Irish fellow who is a splitting image of Zidane. Is the Irish fellow not White? Some pics of Adam has him dark skinned, others light. Its called suntan. I am as dark if not darker than he is in the summer, and in the winter I am very fair.

If White to you means North European - blond blue eyed etc. then fine I understand your point.

Is this Man 'White' or 'North African'...Ill give you a hint, he is British, but his parents immigrated from someplace else...

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Haven't you read what I've written above. I'm no Nordicist and I think that appearance isn't enough to define a race. It is also a matter of blood and genetic heritage. I will always support south Europeans (Italians, Greeks, Spaniards or south Slavs) with tanned skin over Berbers who look like Swedes, because those Europeans even if their look can be foreign share my blood, my History, my race and my roots and are white like me.

Irish men are in part Mediterranean and this guy is European, because both of his parents are, strict one-drop rule. Same for your Irish fellow : he is white and European, Zidane isn't.

 

[elispeedster]

Haven't you read what I've written above. I'm no Nordicist and I think that appearance isn't enough to define a race. It is also a matter of blood and genetic heritage. I will always support south Europeans (Italians, Greeks, Spaniards or south Slavs) with tanned skin over Berbers who look like Swedes, because those Europeans even if their look can be foreign share my blood, my History, my race and my roots and are white like me.

Irish men are in part Mediterranean and this guy is European, because both of his parents are, strict one-drop rule. Same for your Irish fellow : he is white and European, Zidane isn't.

Thanks. I understand your point.

 

[white lightning]

I think most of us on the board support Adam Gemeli. Some may not and that is fine too. What I know is that he is a good kid. I've read nothing but nice things about him. He represents himself with integrity, respect, and kindness on and off the track. He is fun to watch. I root for L. Xiu as well and I know he is chinese. Gemeli will continue to help break down stereotypes and this is a good thing. The sprints have been 95% black for too long and it continues to push the myth that only people of african ancestry can run fast. Total crap and it is not true. I will root for this kid every step of the way and I do still honestly look at him as being white. Sorry if a few of you don't. All of the posters here are welcome here as long as we are mostly pulling for the same cause which I know we are.

I guess the bottom line is that if you want to root for him then great. If not then that is fine too. We all have a free mind but at the end of the day we all are here to primarily root for white athletes to excel in sports and in all aspects of life. There is way too much anti white racism all through out the world. Sorry if I rambled on too much but I really like watching this kid run.

 

[jacknyc]

Good points!

 

[white is right]

Good points!

We could have had this same debate about Guliyev who is an Azeri who are technically not European. We didn't because people assumed he was Russian(he isn't at least from what I read). From what I saw of videos of the kid his upside is huge as he isn't developed at all in the muscular department and he is running times that could make the semi finals in London or even if the cards break right the finals (see Jimmy Vicaut). He also has a chance to break the Euro or World record for juniors. I used to think Lemaitre was a once in a decade prospect now I know that many more Caucasian/White prospects are possible if they get scouted or find there way into a track club.

 

[greyghost]

rambling

yep a bit of rambling does the soul good ...

 

[Tside]

I agree. He does not look white to me at all. He is definitely not west African, and I root for him as a caste buster, but I looked at a few pictures I found online and he looks middle eastern to me in pretty much all of them. Fwiw I did see one where he looks Italian, but I still can't say I consider him white.

Good that is he running fast, but he is not white. He is of Moroccan Iranian descent.

Morocco is located in North Africa.

 

[mastermulti]

Good that is he running fast, but he is not white. He is of Moroccan Iranian descent.

Morocco is located in North Africa.

Yes indeed, and the good thing is that we have another fast young sprinter who isn't of the west african-sub saharan mold. There haven't been many good sprinters of late in this category.

I have nothing at all against Carribean and Afro-American sprinters being at the top of the tree but it's interesting and good for the sport to see a "curve ball" occasionally.

 

[dr.riders]

Good that is he running fast, but he is not white. He is of Moroccan Iranian descent.

Morocco is located in North Africa.

Morocco and Iran are away like Portugal (or Ireland) and central Asia!!!! Could they be the same people? Are Europeans the same in all Europe? People have many differences. I'm italian, and in summer are darker. I know people that in summer are very dark. But they are caucasians. Like europeans, also african peoples are differenciated. I know people fron Nigeria, Senegal, Mali etc... there are differences in appearence. Like between a scandinavian, a mediterranena, a central european, a balkanian, etc....
Also for me Gemili it's very important. He will help to break the idea that only black (or afroamericans, jamaicans and english speaking caraibbeans?) can run fast.
Lemaitre, Guiyev, Gemili... three athletes at the top in world juinior statistics!!! I wait for others and also asian runners.

Gemili is a Turkish last name...