A Caste Conundrum

[McCaffrey Dude]

I don't have an answer to this question as it just came into my head last night.
Does having an elite rb/athlete like Christian McCaffrey come into the NFL help the caste.us cause for other up and coming white football prospects or hurt them?
For a long time now I always thought that would help break the mold of recruiters and colleges that stereotype white athletes.
I find myself looking at high school and college football athletes in videos and keep saying to myself , " well he is talented but he is no McCaffrey ." I just did this yesterday looking at a 2013 high school combine featuring Oregon State rb, Ryan Nall. He really looked slow and tight and just highly uncoordinated. I realized that in the back of my head I had seen CM's NFl combine video and it is just breathtaking. I have seen enough OSU footage of Nall that he is cleary fst and very quick and very coordinated with his footwork , even for such a big back.
Because McCaffrey is breakiing the stereotype of the white rb are coaches and recruiters going to now compare ALL white rb's coming up to Christian? And if they do not measure up ( as 99.9 % of black rbs don't either ) do they just get passed on as they traditionally have over the last 40 years or so?

 

[dolphins15]

MD, I have found myself saying that when doing the research on recruiting. I'll think well he's not as good as McCaffrey. But they don't have to be as good as McCaffrey to receive a scholarship. McCaffrey was the best RB in the country and a top 10 pick. So yeah they might not be as good as him but that doesn't mean they don't deserve a scholarship or that they won't be a good player. There are 128 FBS schools. So just guessing that they have between 4-5 scholarship RB's that puts the number from 512-640 scholarship RB's. So they don't have to be as good as #1 to receive a scholarship. Personally I think McCaffrey will help the cause more than hurt it. When he shows that he is an elite level athlete in the NFL it will open eyes. There are people (fans, coaches, GMS) who just look at him and think well he's white he can't be that good. So when he does perform well and then the next white RB comes along, people will say well he's white he can't do it. But then you can say McCaffrey was white and he did perform well. So it should take away that stereotype.

 

[McCaffrey Dude]

McCaffrey is no anomaly as we all know how many white athletes have been passed on because of their skin color but we all have seen when a white rb or wr gets a chance they are all compared to Welker or Woodhead. This is going to be an interesting couple of years coming up and its effects.

 

[Carolina Speed]

I don't have an answer to this question as it just came into my head last night.
Does having an elite rb/athlete like Christian McCaffrey come into the NFL help the caste.us cause for other up and coming white football prospects or hurt them?
For a long time now I always thought that would help break the mold of recruiters and colleges that stereotype white athletes.
I find myself looking at high school and college football athletes in videos and keep saying to myself , " well he is talented but he is no McCaffrey ." I just did this yesterday looking at a 2013 high school combine featuring Oregon State rb, Ryan Nall. He really looked slow and tight and just highly uncoordinated. I realized that in the back of my head I had seen CM's NFl combine video and it is just breathtaking. I have seen enough OSU footage of Nall that he is cleary fst and very quick and very coordinated with his footwork , even for such a big back.
Because McCaffrey is breakiing the stereotype of the white rb are coaches and recruiters going to now compare ALL white rb's coming up to Christian? And if they do not measure up ( as 99.9 % of black rbs don't either ) do they just get passed on as they traditionally have over the last 40 years or so?

The best high school video I've seen or can remember was Sam McGuffie! To me he looked every bit as good as McCaffrey and even better and he didn't make it. I can't remember just this minute, but there have been many others I believe that were as good as McCaffrey. Switzer was great RB in high school, but a little small. In 2012, here in NC there were 3 white RB's in the top 5 in rushing, one was leading NC with over 3,000 yards until the last 2 playoff games, he was just a junior at the time. He ended up second while playing two less games. I would say of the 3, one was as good as McCaffrey. There have been more, I just don't have the time to do the research right now. I'm sure there are many CF members who can name more that were as good or better than CM.
As I've said many times before, we're fortunate to see McCaffrey. We WOULD NOT be seeing him at this level if his Father wasn't an NFL player! McCaffrey would not have received this opportunity if not for his Father!
I think it definitely helps the cause if CM is successful simply because it will finally open the eyes of the blind, at least I hope so.
Another observation: It will only help the cause if more white players and parents get their young men out there and compete and fight for these positions. Obviously, they're not going to be given to them, unless you have a famous Father. That being said, CM has worked for everything he's getting. We need more of these guys out there!

 

[Ambrose]

Are the financial incentives to colleges and the NFL going to suddenly disappear because McCaffrey can play RB?

Will the perceived social incentive for football, and other sports, as a place to put blacks going to disappear because McCaffrey can play RB?

The football recruiting process is not something spontaneous or something that is based on merit alone. The way the sport is organized in the United States has its intents and purposes.

Those that design Public society ask themselves these questions:
1) what are we going to do with these people [blacks] if we don't give them sports?
2) why would we promote white athleticism when doing so is like promoting white supremacy?

Now do you see the need to create your own private societies whereby you exclude all and any that are not in your private interest? You only live twice.

 

[La France Blanche]

I think the McCaffrey Effect will, overall, be a positive one for White running backs. Wes Welker's success on the field made him a pioneer of sorts for White wide receivers, and the Welker Effect led to a slight rise in the number of White receivers after the position had been virtually purged of Whites. However, just like the Welker Effect was limited in scope, the McCaffrey Effect will be as well. Most likely, we'll see a slight uptick in the number of White running backs, but the position and the NFL in general will remain majority black and biased against whites.

The status quo, with minor ups and downs in the numbers, will remain until and unless enough White fans voice their displeasure with their wallets to cause the league serious financial pain. I'm not talking declining ratings, I'm talking 90% empty stadiums and dried-up merchandise sales. And there's no indication that that's going to happen anytime soon. Until the DWFs put the W above the D and the F, nothing will really change.

 

[dolphins15]

McCaffrey is not an anomaly as there have been many great white RB's who never got a fair shake. I agree with Carolina speed in that McGuffie's high school highlights where the best I've ever seen. Ryan Swope was a really good high school RB as well. But Christian got his chance and has made the most of it being in my opinion the best back in college football.

What I was really meaning is say someone like the kid who is at St. Marys High School in Dusty Frampton. To me his tape isn't as good as McCaffrey but with Christian's success as a white RB instead of a coach saying we can't take Frampton he's a white RB. They will think well McCaffrey turned out well and maybe give Frampton a chance. But just because I don't think he's as good as McCaffrey doesn't mean he isn't better than other black kids who are getting those scholarships because he most definitely is. There are plenty of white kids around the country that can play RB at a really high level we just need more of them getting a legitimate chance.

 

[Westside]

I think the McCaffrey Effect will, overall, be a positive one for White running backs. Wes Welker's success on the field made him a pioneer of sorts for White wide receivers, and the Welker Effect led to a slight rise in the number of White receivers after the position had been virtually purged of Whites. However, just like the Welker Effect was limited in scope, the McCaffrey Effect will be as well. Most likely, we'll see a slight uptick in the number of White running backs, but the position and the NFL in general will remain majority black and biased against whites.

The status quo, with minor ups and downs in the numbers, will remain until and unless enough White fans voice their displeasure with their wallets to cause the league serious financial pain. I'm not talking declining ratings, I'm talking 90% empty stadiums and dried-up merchandise sales. And there's no indication that that's going to happen anytime soon. Until the DWFs put the W above the D and the F, nothing will really change.

La France love your posts. Question, are you a French male or female. It does not matter, I am just curious.

 

[La France Blanche]

La France love your posts. Question, are you a French male or female. It does not matter, I am just curious.

Female (gasp). American citizen of French ancestry.

 

[Westside]

Female (gasp). American citizen of French ancestry.

No complaints. La France, there was once a woman member here, I say about 4 years ago. She ( if it was a she) turned the tables on us and went on a typical liberal American screed condemning us after months of protesting. Glad you are here. Love your insight and the pic in your avatar.

 

[Leonardfan]

In order to break the hold the caste system has on sports it is going to take more than an uber-gifted athlete like McCaffery. The stars have to align just right for a white player to make a big impact. We have had plenty of very good players/athletes over the past decade or so. The problem with the caste system is seeing is not believing.

For every Adrian Peterson their are thousands of countless average to mediocre black RBs who are getting scholarships and do not amount to anything. Same can be said for every other position. So much of the caste system is that perception is reality - their is a very real caste vernacular that exists to keep the system in order - from head coaches, personnel people, scouts to the media types who promote the caste system right on down to the drunken lemming fan base who ingests it and believes it with no questions asked. I was watching the Rockies-Dbacks last night and a recent call up Mike Tauchman had beat out an infield grounder for a base hit and the announcers were said something along the lines of he is a pretty good athlete with just enough speed to beat out the throw for an infield hit. Point being is that praise is never given to white players - football and basketball commentary are obviously worse but it's the whole way of how the announcers say things to describe different players - it is never questioned and is absorbed into the subconscious of the average fan who just suck it up and repeat it.

I will say that Welker has made a small ripple in the caste system but every white WR is compared to him. No white WR is compared to the dominant Jordy Nelson because no one in the Sports-Media complex wants to admit that white WRs can play on the outside and be a true number 1 wideout. We have seen other RBs like Gerhart and Hillis have an impact yet the league did it's best to push them both back in the box because they represented a threat from the false truths the caste system has been preaching for the past 40+ years. I do feel that many white people are getting pissed off at our society in general - their is a huge underlying sentiment of negro fatigue fermenting right below the surface, white people seem to be less and less scared of being labeled racist and seeing how society is stacking the cards against us. We have also begun seeing white players begin to speak out some about the prejudices they face and I only believe that sentiment will continue to grow as whites wake up to the marginalization they face in Amerika 2.0. The key is to transfer the collective white angst from the greater societal level down to the realm of sports. I think we will begin seeing stories of white players and their pissed off parents slowly exposing the caste system over the next few years. If players like McCaffery begin to make it a part of the conversation (and he has mentioned things about being a white rb) they will break the stranglehold the caste system holds on the conversation of sports and race.

 

[Inbred-Swine Whisperer]

Inbred-Swine Whisperer
Is track rigged? Basketball?
It's not that it's impossible for white athletes to truly be World Class athletes - like physical specimen type athletes...it's just much less likely and it's clear as day. I'm a white guy...I'm not in the NAACP...plus I played against all these types of guys and have experienced this firsthand.
I'm just not blind AND ignorant...

 

[Heretic]

Inbred-Swine Whisperer
Is track rigged? Basketball?
It's not that it's impossible for white athletes to truly be World Class athletes - like physical specimen type athletes...it's just much less likely and it's clear as day. I'm a white guy...I'm not in the NAACP...plus I played against all these types of guys and have experienced this firsthand.
I'm just not blind AND ignorant...

Yes you are. You're also a cuck.

 

[Thrashen]

Inbred-Swine Whisperer
Is track rigged? Basketball?
It's not that it's impossible for white athletes to truly be World Class athletes - like physical specimen type athletes...it's just much less likely and it's clear as day. I'm a white guy...I'm not in the NAACP...plus I played against all these types of guys and have experienced this firsthand.
I'm just not blind AND ignorant...

What a joke. Just in the past year or so...

A professional football team with that started 3 white WR's won the Superbowl...

A white sprinter (Christophe Lemaitre) won the bronze in the 200 at the Olympics...

A white NCAA RB (McCaffrey) was the best in the country, broke Barry Sanders' single-season all-purpose yardage record, and was drafted 8th overall in the NFL draft...

A white Olympian (Michael Phelps) became the most decorated medal-winner (with 28) of all time...

A white mixed martial artist (Conor McGregor) became the only UFC fighter to ever hold title belts at 2 different weight classes simultaneously...

A white middle-distance runner (Clayton Murphy) won the bronze in the 800 at the Olympics...

A white football player (Tom Brady) became the most decorated athlete in American history, winning his 5th Superbowl title...

Should I keep going? So perhaps "it's much less likely" that non-whites become world class athletes?

 

[Ambrose]

Inbred-Swine Whisperer
Is track rigged? Basketball?
It's not that it's impossible for white athletes to truly be World Class athletes - like physical specimen type athletes...it's just much less likely and it's clear as day. I'm a white guy...I'm not in the NAACP...plus I played against all these types of guys and have experienced this firsthand.
I'm just not blind AND ignorant...

Idiot boy, long ago on this site the we developed names for weiner-whiners like you. Why don't you try reading through 1/100th of the thousands of posts on this site before sounding gay. Your post reads as true as if it was cut and pasted from CNN or ESPN. In this day of internet it is a wonder how your old belief is still possible. The examples of spectacular white athletes that have no comparable counterpart is beyond compare.

I'm sure you've heard of Mayweather; though you've never read of his manipulation and the favoritism he gleans, but you've never heard of these assassins who have no black, brown, red, or yellow counterpart:

Vasyl Lomachenko


Lionel Messi


Michael Phelps

Roger Federer


[All of your favorite blacks are a thousand miles away from this man's level of ability]

Wayne Gretzky


He's just one of the most elite athletes to have lived...


Top 1000 Weightlifters of All Time





[i left this part blank, to show how white this category is; oh, wait one exception, i'll leave this: (.) for your blacks...]



Is there any point in going on?

 

[McCaffrey Dude]

I hate to say this Thrashen, but excellent post. Keep up the good work.