Snow Plow
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Yes, agree. It’s a tough game for WRs with the rain, but he’s having a solid game.
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Reed Blankenship with 8 solo tackles and an assist through three quarters. Just another day at the office for him. . .
Freethinker
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I’m really enjoying this years Chiefs. Kelce, Watson, Chenal, Tranquill and Karlaftis are all a joy to watch.
Freethinker
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MVS with the TD drop will go down as the villain. Unfortunately Justin Watson also had a few drops, the worst coming on the final 4th and long. An ugly loss for the Chiefs and a lucky win for the Eagles.
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Anyone else notice that Stroud threw 3 INTs this past week?
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No the opposition controlled media still claims he’s the QB of the future!
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I have to say for the majority of the games I agree with Tom Brady.
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Brady bemoans NFL product: 'A lot of mediocrity'
Tom Brady says he thinks there is "a lot of mediocrity in today's NFL" and that the "product in my opinion is less than what it's been."
I didn't see the entire game, but Watson had 2 critical dropped passes towards the end of the game, either of which would have kept the Chiefs in the game. He was targeted 11 times and caught 5 balls, although again, I didn't see the entire game, so I don't know how many of those were drops.
In any event, I don't think those critical drops are going to be overlooked. He may have hurt his chances going forward.
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Yeah, that’s not good! As we all know the tolerance for White skill position players fumbling and dropping passes is very low. Hopefully they give him another shot considering it was raining.
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I mentioned it in post number 80. I’m quite good at noticing things I’m not supposed to
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I was coming on to share that as well. Tom is very astute. I think he “gets it”. If you read between the lines of what he’s saying, he’s not far off from many posters here.I have to say for the majority of the games I agree with Tom Brady.
Brady bemoans NFL product: 'A lot of mediocrity'
Tom Brady says he thinks there is "a lot of mediocrity in today's NFL" and that the "product in my opinion is less than what it's been."
Also, I’m fully convinced at this point that any positive demographics the Patriots offense enjoyed for a decade or so was solely due to TB12. Notice that when Tom was young, and not yet established as a superstar, the Pats demographics were of a typical team. All the teams we loved and rooted for came after the first stage of his career. I think we can puzzle things together now that we are many years removed from his NE departure.
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he should have had one of them, the other to be fair, defender managed to move Watson's body just slightly to the side (potential PI) and it wasn't an obvious, easy catch whatsoever. On top of that, it was raining the whole day, even Kelce had a few drops. But yes, a lot of people I saw on reddit and whatnot are blaming Watson.
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I know blacks get hurt as well, but with so few of our guys given the opportunity to play, each injury stings. A dominant player like Bosa have so many injuries is legacy-killing. His dad John also suffered injuries and was fairly quickly out of the league due to it.
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100% agree and have said as much in other posts. It is Brady who is most directly responsible for the success in New England.
Belichick has been revealed to be a caste-clown and not quite the Genius we and media might have assumed. He record without Brady speaks to this.
On the flip side, Brady went to an average Tampa team and immediately made them successful in his three years there.
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Brady definitely “gets it”, he says the schemes coaching and development are all bad. Hmmm (rooney rule). I especially liked the part where he says how the league changed the rules so offensive players could “play carefree” which to me translates to not having to worry about the skill involved in playing wr bc db’s can’t touch you anymore. Is it me or has the ascendence of white te’s who are very skilled at route running and “getting open” been coupled with the decline in skill needed to play wr?
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I mentioned it in post number 80. I’m quite good at noticing things I’m not supposed to
Well done!I saw read post game comments from him and he indicated he isn’t going to change anything and continue to let it rip. Can’t say I fault that mentality but I do fault the media and fans for reinforcing the new double standard for White QBs vs black ones.
The biggest disappointment to me is Cooper Kupp's string of lower body injuries the past two seasons following his historic 2021 production. He could have been cementing his legacy as an all-time great but now at the age of 30 you gotta wonder if he'll even make the Hall of Fame. He'll need to bounce back with several big injury free seasons to do so now. Christian McCaffrey has done it so hopefully Kupp will too.
Joe Burrow is another one who can now be labeled injury prone. He's as good as there is when healthy but he's already lost a season to a knee injury and now this season he's been hobbled first by a bad calf strain followed by his current wrist problem.
Then there are lesser lights but still excellent players like Cole Holcomb and Jimmy Garappolo who can't stay healthy. Same with Matt Stafford, who is as tough as they come but who always seems to have a malady to overcome.
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Yeah it really hurts our guys. Kupp is a very long shot for the Hall given so few big season from him. He has had several season-ending injuries which has now prevented him from having additional 1,000+ yard seasons.
Same with Joey Bosa… elite when healthy but injured far too often.
Burrow has time to turn around his career trajectory but it is disconcerting how injury-prone he seems.
McCaffrey had a couple of years with bad luck, but has been flat-out dominant before and since those two lost seasons early in his career.
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Wannstedt was one of my most hated coaches of all time. Big time caste clown (remember the Eddie Moore and Jamar Fletcher draft picks?) Plus his undying loyalty to Jay Fiedler pissed me off beyond belief.
I was just channel surfing and the NFL Network is showing the Patriots-Colts AFC championship game from the 2006 season (played in January of '07). This is the game where the Colts and Peyton Manning came from way back to beat Tom Brady and the Patriots.
I tuned in just in time to see a Patriots kickoff return late in the third quarter by Ellis Hobbs, who went 80 yards only to be rundown, video game style, by Matt Giordano similar to the highlights video above (see how fast Giordano closed ground at the 1 minute mark if watching it).
Giordano made up a lot of ground to catch Hobbs, who was a cornerback while Giordano was a WSTD and backup safety during his career -- and the Colts were the relatively White friendliest team in the league at the time. Giordano was 5' 11" and 200 pounds, ideal size for a superfast cornerback but never had the opportunity. Just a reminder of how he was screwed over, as have countless other White defensive backs by the NFL.
Go to 1:17:45 of this video to see the kickoff I'm referring to. Phil Simms merely praised Giordano for his "hustle" while Jim Nantz said Giordano had the angle while actually Giordano made up ground to get that "angle" as Hobbs was running in a straight line down the sideline.
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Giordano was probably the fastest player in the NFL when he played. He could absolutely fly. Bill Polian was certainly instrumental in the very White friendly rosters of the Colts but is also to blame for the mid 2000s rule changes/emphasis on enforcement that has turned the game into basketball on grass.
