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Right, and another that I’ve seen in various mocks has been OG Frank Ragnow.
So that’s 14 whites that are considered possible 1st round picks. That would easily be the highest in 25-30 years.
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Right, and another that I’ve seen in various mocks has been OG Frank Ragnow.
So that’s 14 whites that are considered possible 1st round picks. That would easily be the highest in 25-30 years.
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Good list Thrashen. If we can get close to 14 1st rd picks, draft will be a huge success from our standpoint! I'm pretty confident we will have at least 10 drafted. Anything more than that is a bonus.
2 more borderline 1st rd picks: Stan DL Harrison Phillips and Nevada OL Austin Corbett.
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https://westerncourier.com/41192/sports/acklin-prepares-for-draft/
Good article about FCS prospect Jaelon Acklin, I remember hearing his name on here before but I don't think he has been mentioned recently
Good article about FCS prospect Jaelon Acklin, I remember hearing his name on here before but I don't think he has been mentioned recently
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Nice article about Acklin Red! He's definitely flown beneath the radar here. Excellent production and measurables. He's compared to Thielen, seen that comparison a lot when comparing young white wrs last few years by draft community! His success, along with any white WRs keeps cracking away at caste system. The next Walker, Jordy, now Thielen! I'll take it, but it's not the rarity the lame stream media claims it to be. It's systematic racial slotting starting at peewee level.
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Kind of pointless posting much about the draft this week as it is just a bunch of misinformation in terms of all the rumors swirling around.
I will say I have noticed Penn WR Justin Watson getting more and more attention over the past week or so which is a good thing. 4 white WRs seem to have a solid chance of being drafted - Berrios, Watson, Cantrell and Quinn get drafted or we could see zero white WRs get drafted.
I will say I have noticed Penn WR Justin Watson getting more and more attention over the past week or so which is a good thing. 4 white WRs seem to have a solid chance of being drafted - Berrios, Watson, Cantrell and Quinn get drafted or we could see zero white WRs get drafted.
Was surprised to see Sam on a list of the top 100 prospects, though of course it'll be a huge upset if he's drafted. He's #79 and the description reads "Mentkowski is a tiny school receiver, but had top end measureables and production, and on film he's one of the most precise route runners in this class."
Found these highlights from his senior year:
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Nice highlights, a minute into watching and it's clear he's on another level athletically compared to his D3 peers. He should find his way as an UDFA, if he can make a practice squad I'd say he's a success story. Frustrates the Hell out of me seeing guys like this play D3 ball... Let me guess another late bloomer out of HS ala Justin Watson?! At least he found his way to an FCS school.
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A smart team could get 3 starters with 3 mid to low round picks. They could draft Justin Watson to play flanker, Trey Quinn to play the slot and Dylan Cantrell to play split end.
Quinn should be available in the 4th, Watson in the 5th and Cantrell in the 6th. They'll probably be available even later than these rounds.
Instant passing attack with quality receivers!
Quinn should be available in the 4th, Watson in the 5th and Cantrell in the 6th. They'll probably be available even later than these rounds.
Instant passing attack with quality receivers!
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Yeah I could definitely see Taven Bryan going to Atlanta at #26. Recall that Atlanta's HC Dan Quinn was formerly the Florida Gators defensive coordinator and he's shown to have a propensity for Gator defensive players already in Keanu Neal and Brian Poole. Granted, Quinn left the Gators a bit before Taven committed to the Gators, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was scouting and recruiting him early on in the process. I guess we'll see. This will be an interesting draft to watch nonetheless.
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The clock strikes MIDNIGHT very soon! Latest gossip is the Browns could take Mayfield at number one. As of yesterday I was getting the feeling they were moving away from Allen and could settle on Darnold. Obviously a lot is still up in the air although most now think the Giants will select Barkley at number two.
I will be looking at this draft through my own prism and no player comes close to importance than Troy Apke. More on him in a minute.
The first round offers QB intrigue and basically for the first three rounds I will be keeping an eye on the superb TE bunch and see where DE Sam Hubbard lands. LB Vander Eshe is another player I will be keeping tabs on.
But the main dish for me will be Saturday with rounds 4-7.
To follow up on the above posts regarding WR's EP has it fairly precise as far as consensus. Although we have to factor in the white WR factor which often drops them a good round or two which means Cantrell and Watson are not entirely safe. They could just miss out. As Leo mentioned Watson has gained some solid steam the past two weeks. The Cantrell front has been too quiet for my liking and Berrios looks to be getting a late push but only "certain" teams would draft Berrios which limits his chances. Quinn has showed up on every mock draft except one so he is in for sure.
As far as the fliers mentioned above like Mentkowski the chances are nearly zero. Some times one poll has a player up high. I saw one the other day that had WR Troy Pelletier getting drafted. It is possible that five white WR's get drafted but the fifth would be Jake Wieneke.
To me the real wild card is Austin Proehl. Down the road I could see him making a roster. In a fair world he would be drafted. His father Ricky we all know about but he used to be an NFL WR coach. Too bad he doesn't have that gig anymore. He could have been in a position to coach his son.
I was feeling better about Apke yesterday but my mood changed today. For the record despite the early critics who thankfully have been drowned out some, most traditional outposts have Apke getting drafted on the average in the 6th round. Some have him in the 5th and others in the 7th. One analyst rated Apke the 52nd best player in the draft and has him going in the second round. In a brilliant analysis he says Apke is just the type of player who will be a better pro than he was in college due to his untapped talent.
But there is a dark side and you wouldn't believe where it is coming from. You didn't guess it. The Penn State beat writers. How disgusting. They admit with SHOCK that he performed well athletically at the Combine but they insist he will only get drafted if someone takes a flier on him. They see him as a camp guy. WHAT!! Two Penn State media sources came to the same conclusion. These ******** never supported Apke when he was at Penn State. Figuring him to be the tolerated white weak link to their otherwise black secondary they wrote him off as nothing but a college player with no future in the NFL. They rarely praised him during his college career.
Penn State is developing an ugly pattern. Their head coach has pretty much ignored Apke during this draft process as he is too busy touting Barkley. And secondarily he refuses to recruit white skill players. It is extremely obvious. He is building a caste riddled system over there at Happy Valley.
With Apke the SYSTEM to go along with the standard NFL draft process has designated him a fairly solid draft pick nominee. Trust me I have looked up nearly 20 or more sources. So it will boil down to the teams. Will they pull the same old cowardly pussy fest ritual of staying away from white skill players ( white fright) so as NOT to UPSET the black racial harmony that prevails in NFL locker rooms? Or will they finally start to show some balls and ignore that black racial balance crap that has only made the league worse in so many ways. That whole piss on the grass National Anthem exercise was truly an ugly display that didn't foster any team unity. We would hope team management took notes on that whole ordeal.
So on Saturday I will be keeping my usual vigil for the white WRs but I will be inconsolable if Apke is not drafted. My already dark nature will turn who knows what.
I will be looking at this draft through my own prism and no player comes close to importance than Troy Apke. More on him in a minute.
The first round offers QB intrigue and basically for the first three rounds I will be keeping an eye on the superb TE bunch and see where DE Sam Hubbard lands. LB Vander Eshe is another player I will be keeping tabs on.
But the main dish for me will be Saturday with rounds 4-7.
To follow up on the above posts regarding WR's EP has it fairly precise as far as consensus. Although we have to factor in the white WR factor which often drops them a good round or two which means Cantrell and Watson are not entirely safe. They could just miss out. As Leo mentioned Watson has gained some solid steam the past two weeks. The Cantrell front has been too quiet for my liking and Berrios looks to be getting a late push but only "certain" teams would draft Berrios which limits his chances. Quinn has showed up on every mock draft except one so he is in for sure.
As far as the fliers mentioned above like Mentkowski the chances are nearly zero. Some times one poll has a player up high. I saw one the other day that had WR Troy Pelletier getting drafted. It is possible that five white WR's get drafted but the fifth would be Jake Wieneke.
To me the real wild card is Austin Proehl. Down the road I could see him making a roster. In a fair world he would be drafted. His father Ricky we all know about but he used to be an NFL WR coach. Too bad he doesn't have that gig anymore. He could have been in a position to coach his son.
I was feeling better about Apke yesterday but my mood changed today. For the record despite the early critics who thankfully have been drowned out some, most traditional outposts have Apke getting drafted on the average in the 6th round. Some have him in the 5th and others in the 7th. One analyst rated Apke the 52nd best player in the draft and has him going in the second round. In a brilliant analysis he says Apke is just the type of player who will be a better pro than he was in college due to his untapped talent.
But there is a dark side and you wouldn't believe where it is coming from. You didn't guess it. The Penn State beat writers. How disgusting. They admit with SHOCK that he performed well athletically at the Combine but they insist he will only get drafted if someone takes a flier on him. They see him as a camp guy. WHAT!! Two Penn State media sources came to the same conclusion. These ******** never supported Apke when he was at Penn State. Figuring him to be the tolerated white weak link to their otherwise black secondary they wrote him off as nothing but a college player with no future in the NFL. They rarely praised him during his college career.
Penn State is developing an ugly pattern. Their head coach has pretty much ignored Apke during this draft process as he is too busy touting Barkley. And secondarily he refuses to recruit white skill players. It is extremely obvious. He is building a caste riddled system over there at Happy Valley.
With Apke the SYSTEM to go along with the standard NFL draft process has designated him a fairly solid draft pick nominee. Trust me I have looked up nearly 20 or more sources. So it will boil down to the teams. Will they pull the same old cowardly pussy fest ritual of staying away from white skill players ( white fright) so as NOT to UPSET the black racial harmony that prevails in NFL locker rooms? Or will they finally start to show some balls and ignore that black racial balance crap that has only made the league worse in so many ways. That whole piss on the grass National Anthem exercise was truly an ugly display that didn't foster any team unity. We would hope team management took notes on that whole ordeal.
So on Saturday I will be keeping my usual vigil for the white WRs but I will be inconsolable if Apke is not drafted. My already dark nature will turn who knows what.
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Numerous sites have compared linebacker Tremaine Edmunds with Leighton Vander Esch. Invariably they proclaim that Edmunds is more athletic than Vander Esch.
The SPARQ scores show something different. Vander Esch tests out to be more athletic than 97% of all NFL players. Edmunds tests out to be more athletic than 69 % of all NFL players. Vander Esch is clearly more athletic than Edmunds.
The reason some people are claiming that Edmunds is more athletic than Vander Esch is because Edmunds is black and Vander Esch is white. They believe blacks are athletic and whites are not.
When confronted by facts like the SPARQ scores they'll claim that the white player "doesn't show it on the field." They'll never give up their racist stereotypes.
Roquan Smith tested out to be more athletic than 68% of the NFL so Vander Esch is more athletic than him too.
The SPARQ scores show something different. Vander Esch tests out to be more athletic than 97% of all NFL players. Edmunds tests out to be more athletic than 69 % of all NFL players. Vander Esch is clearly more athletic than Edmunds.
The reason some people are claiming that Edmunds is more athletic than Vander Esch is because Edmunds is black and Vander Esch is white. They believe blacks are athletic and whites are not.
When confronted by facts like the SPARQ scores they'll claim that the white player "doesn't show it on the field." They'll never give up their racist stereotypes.
Roquan Smith tested out to be more athletic than 68% of the NFL so Vander Esch is more athletic than him too.
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I'm very interested in what round LB Josey Jewell will be picked. To me, he's kind of the barometer of when a White player should be selected compared to when they actually are selected.
Also interested in when Mason Rudolph is picked, who could end up being the best QB of this draft come 2-3 years from now. Highly underrated and should be getting much more hype than Jackson.
Also interested in when Mason Rudolph is picked, who could end up being the best QB of this draft come 2-3 years from now. Highly underrated and should be getting much more hype than Jackson.
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The latest CBS mock draft predicts 12 whites in the 1st round, including a white DT (the first since Adam Carriker?). This could potentially be one of the best drafts in many years...
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...top-10-jets-surprise-browns-change-franchise/
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...top-10-jets-surprise-browns-change-franchise/
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Amazingly enough this TE class is being labeled as weak. I guess they did not go back to see how many melanin laden unproductive rookies there were in the "deepest TE draft in NFL history" in 2017.
This comes from cuck analyst Eric Galko:
Teams I’ve spoken with consider this tight end class to be one of the weakest in recent memory. It’s very possible that no tight ends get drafted in Round 1. Only two (South Dakota State’s Dallas Goedert and South Carolina’s Hayden Hurst) could go in the second, and only two more (Penn State’s Mike Gesicki and Indiana’s Ian Thomas) could go in the third. I believe the Dolphins will select the first tight end in the draft with their second-round pick, assuming they don’t trade the selection.
And according to some other cuck no name analyst Mark Andrews isn't a top 100 pick. The guy is a monster who put up huge numbers but is apparently not athletic enough. I will be interested to see if these two predictions are incorrect. Of course we see an unproductive black TE getting a pre draft bump from all of the draft "experts" in Ian Thomas. He just has magical updisde
FanRag Sports draft analyst Jon Ledyard tweets that he wouldn't be surprised if Oklahoma TE Mark Andrews went outside the top 100 picks.
Andrews (6'5/256) had some first-round hype in the winter, but that was always silly; he's not near athletic enough at that position to be a top 32 pick. Ledyard notes that teams are concerned about the former Sooner's athleticism, and there's likely concerns about the fact that Lincoln Riley's offense makes everyone look good. That's not say Andrews is a bad prospect -- on the contrary -- but he makes much more sense as an early Day 3 pick than one who goes on the first day or early on Day 2.
This comes from cuck analyst Eric Galko:
Teams I’ve spoken with consider this tight end class to be one of the weakest in recent memory. It’s very possible that no tight ends get drafted in Round 1. Only two (South Dakota State’s Dallas Goedert and South Carolina’s Hayden Hurst) could go in the second, and only two more (Penn State’s Mike Gesicki and Indiana’s Ian Thomas) could go in the third. I believe the Dolphins will select the first tight end in the draft with their second-round pick, assuming they don’t trade the selection.
And according to some other cuck no name analyst Mark Andrews isn't a top 100 pick. The guy is a monster who put up huge numbers but is apparently not athletic enough. I will be interested to see if these two predictions are incorrect. Of course we see an unproductive black TE getting a pre draft bump from all of the draft "experts" in Ian Thomas. He just has magical updisde
FanRag Sports draft analyst Jon Ledyard tweets that he wouldn't be surprised if Oklahoma TE Mark Andrews went outside the top 100 picks.
Andrews (6'5/256) had some first-round hype in the winter, but that was always silly; he's not near athletic enough at that position to be a top 32 pick. Ledyard notes that teams are concerned about the former Sooner's athleticism, and there's likely concerns about the fact that Lincoln Riley's offense makes everyone look good. That's not say Andrews is a bad prospect -- on the contrary -- but he makes much more sense as an early Day 3 pick than one who goes on the first day or early on Day 2.
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I am looking forward to seeing Jewell at the next level. He could be the next Borland. An outright tackling machine and true prototypical LB. One of my favorite players in the draft.
Huge Mason Rudolph fan too. He is being really overlooked - pretty sure he checks off all of the Bill Parcells QB requirements. He reminds me alot of Roethlisberger. All in all this QB class has me intrigued. I pretty much like all of the QBs - Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Mayfield, Rudolph, Lauletta, Falk, White, Ferguson, Litton. Supposedly Texas A&M/Houston QB Kyle Allen is garnering some buzz too. It will be nice to see a solid group of white rookies (both drafted and udfa) get onto rosters and hopefully push off some of the mediocre black quarterbacks that have taken up more and more roster spots over the past few seasons.
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First posted in CFB thread Week #5 (Oct 1st)...Caught my attention when Acklin had an eye-popping 19 receptions for 343 yards vs. South Dakota....(thought he was still a Junior) & so far off the Draft list never mentioned him & lulled me to sleep w my hectic life...after his Pro Day should at least get an invite to a Summer Camp
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jaelon-acklin?id=32462018-0002-5611-1073-4fd62ed2dee7
Acklin's resume would usually cause him to sink into the background as draft prospect, but his speed, explosiveness and eye-popping quickness drills will make teams go to the tape. He's a better athlete than football player right now, but there is enough talent and more than enough athletic ability to warrant a trip into camp for an extended audition.
BTW Nice find on Sam Mentkowski!
After just his Soph. season ...Sporting News had Justin Watson IVY League's Top NFL Prospect; still perplexed he did not receive an Combine Invite!
Before the Season ending injury WR Cody Thompson-Toledo (closest comparison Jordy Nelson) could have been a 2nd or 3rd Round pick....he will Return to College for Senior season after medical redshirt. Hopefully still as explosive in 18'..they will be starting new QB
WR David "The Prodigy" Sills could have also Declared for this Draft; (Ex QB Comitted to USC in 7th grade) led CFB w 18 TD catches! But decided to Return to West Virginia w QB Will Grier...considered a QB Bust by age 18 ; re-invented himself as a WR
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Again a cliffhanger ( shouldn't be) when it comes to whether Troy Apke gets drafted or not despite the fact most outlets have him going in the 5th to 6th round. But there are still some consequential outposts that have him too far down lists to get drafted at all and that is worrisome. I do not have access to the big board top 300 from Mel Kiper and Todd McShay. Those lists are very influential.
Thank God there are people like Mike Martz out there. Remember Martz was one of the least caste type coaches during his heyday ( in an era that was very caste) with the high flying winning Rams. A bit of a mystery as to why he didn't coach longer given his history of winning but see below some encouraging words about Troy Apke without all that hesitant BS that too many draft "experts" and pseudo scouts have been expounding ever since he blew up the Combine.
See below Martz's great praise regarding Apke. If those comments are not enough to get Troy drafted nothing will.
https://www.landof10.com/penn-state/2018-nfl-draft-penn-state-troy-apke-nflpa-game-mvp
Thank God there are people like Mike Martz out there. Remember Martz was one of the least caste type coaches during his heyday ( in an era that was very caste) with the high flying winning Rams. A bit of a mystery as to why he didn't coach longer given his history of winning but see below some encouraging words about Troy Apke without all that hesitant BS that too many draft "experts" and pseudo scouts have been expounding ever since he blew up the Combine.
See below Martz's great praise regarding Apke. If those comments are not enough to get Troy drafted nothing will.
https://www.landof10.com/penn-state/2018-nfl-draft-penn-state-troy-apke-nflpa-game-mvp
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Pirates at work out there on the internet as I was able to see Mel Kiper's big 300 board list.
The hell pit of horrors he has CB/S Troy Apke ranked a lowly 290 which is nowhere near high enough to get drafted. The wild mixed signals won't stop with his status but this is not a good sign. Still if I were to place a bet I say he does get drafted. The build up tension on Saturday will be unbearable.
The good news is he has 5 WR's within draft range. Below is their ranking.
Trey Quinn-171
Dylan Cantrell-182
Justin Watson-190
Braxton Berrios-209
Jake Wieneke-255
If these five along with Apke get drafted I will be celebrating like there is no tomorrow. I cannot recall a draft with so much on the line from my perspective.
The hell pit of horrors he has CB/S Troy Apke ranked a lowly 290 which is nowhere near high enough to get drafted. The wild mixed signals won't stop with his status but this is not a good sign. Still if I were to place a bet I say he does get drafted. The build up tension on Saturday will be unbearable.
The good news is he has 5 WR's within draft range. Below is their ranking.
Trey Quinn-171
Dylan Cantrell-182
Justin Watson-190
Braxton Berrios-209
Jake Wieneke-255
If these five along with Apke get drafted I will be celebrating like there is no tomorrow. I cannot recall a draft with so much on the line from my perspective.
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Just for fun. Anyone have one prediction for tomorrow night? Mine is Allen to the Bills
It's almost like musical chairs for the four White QBs who should go early, interest allegedly shifting from team to team almost daily according to the "experts."
I'd like to see Whites hit double digits in the first round. Don't know that it's happened since 1989. As we've documented before, especially the former poster TruthTeller, the first round of the draft went almost coal black in 1990 with just two Whites taken after a fairly White friendly first round the year before, and ever since then it's pretty much stayed in that 5 to 7 range, with outliers like 2015 when Brandon Scherff was the only paleface to go in the first round.
But hitting double digits doesn't mean much, that's still less than 33%. Whites are still shunned at WR, RB, and defense in general. It would be a minor moral victory but wouldn't portend any change in the status quo when it comes to the Caste System, which is established and maintained between high school and college, not between college and the NFL.
I'd like to see Whites hit double digits in the first round. Don't know that it's happened since 1989. As we've documented before, especially the former poster TruthTeller, the first round of the draft went almost coal black in 1990 with just two Whites taken after a fairly White friendly first round the year before, and ever since then it's pretty much stayed in that 5 to 7 range, with outliers like 2015 when Brandon Scherff was the only paleface to go in the first round.
But hitting double digits doesn't mean much, that's still less than 33%. Whites are still shunned at WR, RB, and defense in general. It would be a minor moral victory but wouldn't portend any change in the status quo when it comes to the Caste System, which is established and maintained between high school and college, not between college and the NFL.
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My Way too white 1st rd: 14!
1. CLE QB Josh Allen
2. NYG QB Baker Mayfield
3. NYJ QB ((Josh Rosen))
5. DEN QB Sam Darnold
9. SF LT Mike McGlinchey
11. MIA LB Leighton Vander Esch
14. GB G Quenton Nelson
17. LAC LT Connor Williams
24. CAR TE Mark Andrews
26. ATL DL Harrison Phillips
27. NO QB Mason Rudolph
29. JAX TE Mike Gesicki
31. NE LT Kolton Miller
32. PHI LT Brian O'Neill
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I predict the Jets will take Baker Mayfield.
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LB Leighton Vander Esch was apparently a zero star walk on.
Vander Esch is an athletic freak. He's another top white athlete who wasn't offered a scholarship while lesser blacks were.
Vander Esch is an athletic freak. He's another top white athlete who wasn't offered a scholarship while lesser blacks were.
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Although he looks very white, I believe that Texas OT, Connor Williams, is actually a light-skinned mulatto. Any other opinions?
It’s amazing that we could have two white DT’s (Taven Bryan and Harrison Phillips) drafted in the first two rounds.
We could also see three white receiving TE’s (Goedert, Hurst, and Gesicki) drafted in the first two rounds as well.
Aside from the 5 white QBs (Allen, Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold, and Rudolph) that will surely be taken in the 1st, Luke Falk is also being discussed as a “surprise” 1st rounder.
This could be the whitest Rounds 1-2 in 30 years! Should be an interesting night.
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