2018 NFL Draft

[Extra Point]

It will be interesting to see where Trey Quinn and his 114 catches go. I'd take him in the second round but because he's white he likely won't go that high.

I'm guessing he'll go in the fourth.

 

[Don Wassall]

Trey Quinn ran a 4.45 at SMU's pro day.

 

[Leonardfan]

Hopefully Quinn is seen as a 3rd rounder like Kupp. I am anxious to see how this draft plays out. Everytime I check weenieworld or any of the pro day write ups all I see are unknown black players getting hyped up and it just brings to mind how during the draft - especially in the 4-7th rounds teams do their damnedest to pick obscure, unproductive black players rather than better, more productive white players. Those are the rounds that really build out a roster.

 

[Leonardfan]

Mike White WKU QB had a solid pro day. I read that the Patriots director of player personnel was there - hopefully to check out Mike White but my guess is knowing the Patriots it was to check out the mediocre black TE that is suddenly getting "buzz".

 

[Leonardfan]

Yale LB Matt Oplinger had a solid pro day workout:

Oplinger measured 6022 and 250 pounds, completed 25 reps on the bench press and touched 32 inches in the vertical jump as well as an impressive 10-foot-5 in the broad jump.

He timed 4.75 in the 40, 4.49 in the short shuttle and 7.38 in the three-cone and looked really good in drills. Oplinger, who could land in the final rounds of the draft, is scheduled to work out for the New Orleans Saints.

 

[Leonardfan]

Ferris St. DL Zach Sieler - 6-5 290lbs 4.78 40 31 BP, 7.01 3 cone, 30 in vert, 9-11 broad. Plenty athletic as a 290lb DL. If a black player ran a 4.78 at 290lbs their would be plenty of hype around him. The NFL would rather hype up non-white rugby players than give an exceptional white athlete who played well at the D-2 level a shot.

 

[celticdb15]

Thanks for the updates guys. The last 2 LF mentioned are worthy of keeping eyes on as undrafted guys. With Sielers size and athleticism, should be worthy of mid Rd selection. But He will probably get the Justin Zimmer treatment ala going UDFA. As for Oplinger, showing he has what it takes to be small school OLB prospect. It's nice to see athletes getting noticed from ivy League Schools.

 

[dolphins15]

Ferris St. DL Zach Sieler - 6-5 290lbs 4.78 40 31 BP, 7.01 3 cone, 30 in vert, 9-11 broad. Plenty athletic as a 290lb DL. If a black player ran a 4.78 at 290lbs their would be plenty of hype around him. The NFL would rather hype up non-white rugby players than give an exceptional white athlete who played well at the D-2 level a shot.

Sieler is an animal. He is a former walk-on at Ferris State. He red-shirted his first year and could have went back for one more year but decided to come out early. He has 33 career sacks in 3 years of playing.

To your point LF, they have been hyping up the OT from West Georgia who ran fast at the combine. I saw Lance Zierlein last night say he's the most athletic OT he's ever seen. He only played 1 year at West Georgia after he got booted from Texas. But they are hyping him as a 2nd round pick. In a fair world Sieler should be a 2nd round pick with that athleticism and production.

 

[Extra Point]

San Jose State linebacker Frank Ginda had a good pro day. He had a 4.68 40, a 9-6 broad jump, 29 reps at 225 and a 6.80 3 cone. He measured 600 at 235.

During the season he amassed 173 tackles. That led the NCAA.

Despite being a little short Ginda looks like a good prospect. He could be a middle or weak side linebacker in a 4-3.

He's projected by the MSM to go in the 6th or 7th. He'll probably go undrafted because he's white. He probably should go in the 3rd or 4th or even the 2nd.

A smart team would pick this man up.

 

[FootballDad]

San Jose State linebacker Frank Ginda had a good pro day. He had a 4.68 40, a 9-6 broad jump, 29 reps at 225 and a 6.80 3 cone. He measured 600 at 235.

During the season he amassed 173 tackles. That led the NCAA.

Despite being a little short Ginda looks like a good prospect. He could be a middle or weak side linebacker in a 4-3.

He's projected by the MSM to go in the 6th or 7th. He'll probably go undrafted because he's white. He probably should go in the 3rd or 4th or even the 2nd.

A smart team would pick this man up.

Sounds a lot like Ben Heiney, a tackling machine who was jerked around by Black Jack’s Raiduhs.

 

[Don Wassall]

Dylan Cantrell highlights. Warning: Best played on mute as it's accompanied by hideous rap music.

 

[Don Wassall]

Trey Quinn highlights:

 

[Extra Point]

Western Kentucky's Mike White looks like a good developmental prospect. Here's a game in which he shows some flashes but has areas which could be improved, like his movement to avoid the rush. His offensive line could have played better.

 

[Leonardfan]

Some brand new "expert" that I have never heard of is doing his part to hype up eraserhead. If I recall Tebow was blasted from the get go and all the way through his NFL career for his throwing mechanics and Jackson gets a pass to work on his. Interestingly enough Tebow had a much better completion percentage in college than Jackson :

Lamar Jackson - QB - Cardinals
Louisville QB Lamar Jackson's draft stock is trending "upward," according to Yahoo Sports' Jordan Schultz.

"Hard to imagine him falling him out of the 1st round," Schultz tweeted. Picking at No. 15 overall, the Cardinals have suddenly become a hot hypothetical destination for L-Jax around the draft community. With stopgap veteran Sam Bradford on a one-year deal, the Cardinals are in a unique position to roll the dice on Jackson's ceiling while affording him the one-year developmental redshirt campaign he needs to work on his throwing mechanics. Jackson's athleticism and arm talent are above reproach, but tweaks -- throwing with a wider base, incorporating his hips more, etc. -- will have to be made to improve his accuracy and consistency as a thrower.

 

[Don Wassall]

Jackson's biggest handicap is that he's not very bright, as attested to by his Wonderlic score of 13 as if that was even needed to affirm the obvious, but no one in the public eye can mention it without losing their job. Having sufficient intelligence is an integral part of playing quarterback as much as if not more than having decent speed is integral to playing wide receiver or cornerback. Duh. But in a society based on lies and double standards, common sense observations are more and more verboten. An individual black's lack of the intelligence needed to perform a job can't be mentioned without it being turned into a blank denunciation of all blacks and the observer branded a "nazi." Can Amerikan society be any more ludicrous?

 

[Freethinker]

Jackson's biggest handicap is that he's not very bright, as attested to by his Wonderlic score of 13 as if that was even needed to affirm the obvious, but no one in the public eye can mention it without losing their job. Having sufficient intelligence is an integral part of playing quarterback as much as if not more than having decent speed is integral to playing wide receiver or cornerback. Duh. But in a society based on lies and double standards, common sense observations are more and more verboten. An individual black's lack of the intelligence needed to perform a job can't be mentioned without it being turned into a blank denunciation of all blacks and the observer branded a "nazi." Can Amerikan society be any more ludicrous?

Excellent post and to answer your hypothetical question, yes. Every week I see something so outlandish going on in the USSA that not too long ago would have seemed impossible. Whites are waking up and in response the system is doubling down on the poz. It’s gonna get worse before it gets better.

 

[FootballDad]

Dylan Cantrell highlights. Warning: Best played on mute as it's accompanied by hideous rap music.

After watching this video, I was impressed. I thought I saw a fast, agile, sure-handed, athletic wide receiver. But then I read this scouting report and realized that I was all wrong.

"Dylan Cantrell lined up primarily as a flanker or split end to the outside of the formation in the Red Raiders air raid offense. After recording 29 catches in his first two seasons at Texas Tech, a back injury would force Cantrell to redshirt the 2015 season.

He would return the following season and post 129 receptions, 1,491 yards and 15 touchdowns over his final two years in Lubbock. As a junior in 2016, he would miss two games as a result of a hand injury. He’s played for one head coach and two offensive coordinators during his college career. He earned an invitation to the Scouting Combine. He possesses good size on a bulky frame with marginal athletic ability."

 

[Shadowlight]

It will be interesting to see where Trey Quinn and his 114 catches go. I'd take him in the second round but because he's white he likely won't go that high.

I'm guessing he'll go in the fourth.

Part One of my two part draft primer. First the WR's. Below is where they absolutely SHOULD be drafted. This is just my list and I know full well that in reality one to four white WR's will be drafted. Which is beyond unfair. Below is where they SHOULD be drafted in my opinion. Seven players in all. Berrios and Ryen offer added special teams appeal.

Round 2--Trey Quinn--Absolutely correct EP he is a second round talent and some are already saying a 100 yard catch guy year after year.

Round 4--Dylan Cantrell

Round 4--Justin Watson

Round 5--Braxton Berrios

Round 7--Austin Proehl

Round 7--Trever Ryen

Round 7--Jake Wieneke

 

[Shadowlight]

Part Two.

Players who SHOULD be first round picks. Note I am not including OL. TE's and QB's listed afterwards. These are not in any ranking order.



Taven Bryan-DT

Sam Hubbard-DE

Leighton Vander Eshe-MLB


Tight Ends for the first round listed by my ranking order.

Hayden Hurst

Mike Gesicki

Mark Andrews-borderline first/second

Almost 1,2,3,4 highly rated QB's and again listed by my ranking order.

Josh Allen

Josh Rosen

Sam Darnold

Baker Mayfield

One final note. This list obviously does not include all of the white players expected to be drafted. But one player gets a special star from me and is in my mind the most important player in the draft despite not being a first rounder. Of course I am talking about S/CB Troy Apke who SHOULD be drafted in Round 3.

 

[dolphins15]

I need some help. I can't think of the kids name from a D3 school in Wisconsin (not sure which one). But it was within the last few years who had a really good pro day. I think he might have done it at Wisconsin's pro day and was better than all of their guys. But I can't remember his name for the life of me.

 

[celticdb15]

I need some help. I can't think of the kids name from a D3 school in Wisconsin (not sure which one). But it was within the last few years who had a really good pro day. I think he might have done it at Wisconsin's pro day and was better than all of their guys. But I can't remember his name for the life of me.

Any idea what position?

 

[dolphins15]

Any idea what position?

Celtic, I found him. His name was Dan Arnold. Played for Wisconsin-Platteville.

 

[celticdb15]

About 5 years ago UW Whitewater a D3 powerhouse had a guy named Lane Olson 5'8 200lb Safety ran a 4.4 40 at UW pro day.

http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/early-look-at-2011-nfl-draft.11372/page-14#post-208736

Believe you are talking about UW Platteville WR Dan Arnold!

http://castefootball.us/index.php?threads/2017-nfl-draft.35366/page-30#post-696728

This year a UW Oshkosh WR in Sam Mentkowski ran a 4.4 !

 

[icsept]

Some brand new "expert" that I have never heard of is doing his part to hype up eraserhead. If I recall Tebow was blasted from the get go and all the way through his NFL career for his throwing mechanics and Jackson gets a pass to work on his. Interestingly enough Tebow had a much better completion percentage in college than Jackson :

Lamar Jackson - QB - Cardinals
Louisville QB Lamar Jackson's draft stock is trending "upward," according to Yahoo Sports' Jordan Schultz.

"Hard to imagine him falling him out of the 1st round," Schultz tweeted. Picking at No. 15 overall, the Cardinals have suddenly become a hot hypothetical destination for L-Jax around the draft community. With stopgap veteran Sam Bradford on a one-year deal, the Cardinals are in a unique position to roll the dice on Jackson's ceiling while affording him the one-year developmental redshirt campaign he needs to work on his throwing mechanics. Jackson's athleticism and arm talent are above reproach, but tweaks -- throwing with a wider base, incorporating his hips more, etc. -- will have to be made to improve his accuracy and consistency as a thrower.

Needs to improve his accuracy and consistency as a thrower, but no mention of his lack of ball velocity (dead last):

2018 COMBINE RESULTS FOR BALL VELOCITY:

Josh Allen - Wyoming - 62 (left), 62 (right)
Baker Mayfield - Oklahoma - 59 (left), 60 (right)
Josh Rosen - UCLA - 57 (left), 59 (right)
Tanner Lee - Nebraska - 56 (left), 57 (right)
Kurt Benkert - Virginia - 55 (left), 56 (right)
Nic Shimonek - Texas Tech - 55 (left), 55 (right)
Danny Etling - LSU - 54 (left), 56 (right)
Mike White - Western Kentucky - 53 (left), 55 (right)
Chase Litton - Marshall - 53 (left), 55 (right)
Austin Allen - Arkansas - 53 (left), 54 (right)

Riley Ferguson - Memphis - 52 (left), 54 (right)​

Luke Falk - Washington State - 52 (left), 52 (right)
Kyle Lauletta - Richmond - 52 (left), 52 (right)
Mason Rudolph - Oklahoma State - 52 (left), 52 (right)
Logan Woodside - Toledo - 52 (left), 52 (right)
JT Barrett - Ohio State - 52 (left), 52 (right)
Quinton Flowers - South Florida - 49 (left), 49 (right)
Lamar Jackson - Louisville - 49 (left), 49 (right)​

 

[FootballDad]

The problem that I see with the numbers up there is that it is not noted that Jackson and some of the other black players achieved this ball velocity just by flicking their wrists. No need for them to do a full throwing motion when they have "dat wrist flick".