2017 NFL Draft

[The Hock]

Thanks Shadowlight and good write up LF. My thumbs stay seemingly attached to that like button, It's a useful way of showing y'all I have read and acknowledged your opinions so I'm not shy when using it.

 

[ximasa]

Fortunately, next year I can definitely see us having 11 of the first 20 picks off the board - Darnold (QB), Rosen (QB), Allen (QB), Browning (QB), Nelson (OG), McGlinchey (OT), Hyatt (OT), Hubbard (DE), Cameron Smith (LB), and Gustin (LB). Maybe a little too optimistic?

If Chase Hansen (UTAH) can repeat his showing again in 17", he will be drafted in 1st round.
Hansen + Dimick punked almost every QB/RB they have faced, despite every media keep praising M.Williams, Hansen is Harrison Smith 2.0.

2 TE might have their chance : Mike Gesicki (Penn state) who is good at every sports, monster body.
+ Troy Fumagalli (Wis.)

 

[Leonardfan]

I try to avoid the talk about next year's draft until I start getting into cfb preview mode.

I do know that the qb class has the potential to be very deep though (2004/1983 class deep). I am really excited about Mason Rudolph especially. He will be a true senior, did not declare early and will have 3 full seasons and some playing time his freshman year under his belt. He is better than any qb in this class but was overlooked by all the "experts". I probably have not been this pumped about a qb prospect since Big Ben back in 2003 when i first started getting into the draft and was a crawfords fan.

Other than that my rule of thumb is to ignore the underclassmen until they officially declare so Rosen, Darnold, Allen are not players I will project yet. Darnold is another qb i am excited about - he has the Andrew Luck aura around him - looking forward to him playing at USC this year.

 

[Deceptive Speed]

Cripes no wonder no one has mentioned him here. All the while I am thinking I unearthed a gem? But it is hard to slip one past the goal on Leo. But the scouts did say he has terrible hip swivel so just a straight line no change of direction bowling ball suited for special teams so no great loss at the end of the day. Hendrickson on the other hand is seen at worst as a situational pass rusher and Anzalone is a three down backer as long as he stays healthy which has been a concern. This mulatto thing is increasingly making our jobs more difficult.

D2 ILB Connor Harris can be your hidden gem! LeonardFan missed him in his write up, i've been hearing mid round buzz for him.

 

[Thrashen]

CBS mock draft has MCaffrey going #8 to the Panthers and WR Cooper Kupp going in the second round to the Bills...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...-pick-trade-and-draft-class-for-all-32-teams/

 

[Rocky B]

Here is my write-up with a week to go before the draft. Going to be a black draft for sure. Don't waste your time watching this thing. I will just follow one of the draft trackers.

2017 NFL Draft Primer

Quarterbacks

Every year the same recycled talk about QBs gets thrown out there regarding how the position is in trouble due to college QBs playing in offenses that do not translate to the NFL yet every year the draft "experts" continue to throw out black quarterbacks as the top QBs in the class and fail to connect the dots. This year's QB class has more black quarterbacks than usual with half of the participants in the Senior Bowl and Combine being non-white. Call me crazy but to me it seems much more of a formulated effort and push by the NFL handlers to get more non-whites into the position based on race rather than the skill and ability. Longer leashes are afforded to non-white QBs with constant excuses being provided by the media for them. Compare that to white QBs - especially the younger ones who are under constant media scrutiny and a negative media microscope from the moment they step into the league. One only has to go back to last year to see how Jared Goff, Christian Hackenberg and Paxton Lynch have been criticized even though they were all rookies. This year the QB class for our guys is not deep at all (according to the "experts"). I will list some additional names but the draft media has done a great job of limiting the number of white QBs worthy of getting drafted to three:

1. Mitchell Trubisky UNC - He will more than likely be the first QB off the board. Great combination of intelligence, accuracy, arm strength and athleticism. I have been a fan of his for the past few seasons and he should of started over the black quarterback at UNC. Reminds me of Aaron Rodgers minus the funky release point. If you can I would read some of the interviews with him, he comes off as calm, cool and collected - not really rattled by anything. A nice quiet, stoic confidence.

2. Davis Webb Cal - Lost his job due to injury at Texas Tech where he put up similar numbers to the overrated Mahomes. Webb was a casualty of a wigger head coach - Kingsbury. He transferred to Cal and led a prolific PAC 12 offense against better defenses than he faced in the Big 12. He is a big, strong armed intelligent passer but is a little streaky with accuracy. Reminds me alot of Philip Rivers.

3. Nate Peterman Pitt - Another victim of a wigger head coach (Butch Jones) and an anti-white purge. Peterman transferred to Pitt where he became a very good player in a pro style offense. He has been very undersold during the draft process and seems to have been intentionally ignored as the draft "experts" promoted their favorite black quarterbacks. With a week to go before the draft Peterman is now all of the sudden getting some very postive pre-draft buzz so hopefully that translates to being selected higher than he has been projected. He reminds me of Kirk Cousins - he has enough arm strength to make the throws but is more of a short/mid range passing QB, he played under center in college and is a heady, intelligent QB with great accuracy, athleticism and the ability to throw on the run.


After our top 3 QBs the draft media has paid little or no attention to any other white QBs in the class. As mentioned above the Senior Bowl and Combine overlooked white QBs. The QB class was bitten by the injury bug as well with Baylor QB Seth Russell and Ole Miss QB Chad Kelly suffering season ending injuries that did not allow them to participate in the draft process. My preseason sleeper CJ Beathard had a mediocre senior season which really hurt his draft stock (perhaps due to Iowa's very conservative offense?). Zach Terrell and Cooper Rush are two prolific, experienced MAC QBs that have not received much attention as well. QBs like Wes Lunt (Illinois) and Alek Torgerson (Penn) made impressions early during the pre draft process but again were ignored by the Senior Bowl and Combine. It's always hard to project a player because a team can sometimes be very high on one and it is totally under the radar.

Draft Projections (based on where the caste masters will draft them rather than my personal projections)

1. Mitchell Trubisky - 1st round
2. Davis Webb - 2nd-3rd round
3. Nate Peterman - 2nd-3rd round
4. C.J. Beathard - 5th - UDFA
5. Alek Torgerson - 6th - UDFA
6. Cooper Rush - 6th - UDFA
7. Seth Russell - 6th - UDFA
8. Chad Kelly - 6th - UDFA
9. Patrick Towles - 6th - UDFA
10. Ryan Higgins - 6th - UDFA
11. Wes Lunt - 7th - UDFA
12. Zach Terrell - 7th - UDFA
13. Trevor Knight - UDFA
14. Mitch Leidner - UDFA
15. Taysom Hill - UDFA
16. Brady Gustafson - UDFA


Running Backs

Christian McCaffery has been a much talked about prospect for the past few seasons. He is one of the most dynamic, athletic and versatile prospects to come out in a long time. He's the first white RB to threaten the caste system as a potential first round pick since Toby Gerhart was drafted in the mid 2nd round in 2010. He is a true threat to the caste system because he has spoken out about being a white athlete and the stigmas assigned to him by the cucked sports media. As fans and supporters of him we can only hope that he ends up being drafted by a solid team. After Christian we probably will not see another RB drafted. Their are a few small school FCS level gems in Lamar RB Kade Harrington and Chattannooga RB Derrick Craine who have the ability to play in the NFL but will more than likely have to take the Danny Woodhead route. Va Tech FB Sam Rogers will probably be a late round selection but is more than just a WSTD/lead blocker as he displayed during his
college career.

Draft Projections

1. Christian McCaffery - 1st round
2. Sam Rogers - 6th - UDFA
3. Kade Harrington - UDFA
4. Derrick Craine - UDFA


Wide Recievers

This years WR class is one of the deepest in recent memory. Again the caste system did a great job in preventing many of our WRs from participating in the Shrine Game, Senior bowl and Combine. Cooper Kupp is likely to be our first WR drafted after having a prolific and dominant career for FCS Eastern Washington in which he put up huge numbers against FBS foes Washington, Oregon and Washington St. Chad Hansen who's path to the NFL perfectly illustrates the caste system emerged as Cal's leading WR during the season and was one of the best in the nation. Ryan Switzer is the prototypical white WR that the Pats have deployed during their dominance of the NFL. Trent Taylor also falls in the Switzer mold. Tanner Gentry and Thomas Sperbeck are in my opinion two of the most disrespected prospects in the entire draft - both were dominant during their college careers but totally ignored by all the "experts" along with the draft process. Look for these guys and others to be signed quickly after the draft and more than likely play well this preseason only to follow the typical route of white WRs.

Draft Projections

1. Cooper Kupp - 2nd-3rd
2. Chad Hansen - 2nd-4th
3. Ryan Switzer - 4th-6th
4. Trent Taylor - 5th - 7th
5. Tanner Gentry - 6th - UDFA
7. Jordan Westerkamp - 6th - UDFA
8. Thomas Sperbeck - 6th - UDFA
9. Brandon Reilly - UDFA
10. Drew Morgan - UDFA
11. Gehrig Dieter - UDFA
12. Riley McCarron - UDFA
13. River Cracraft - UDFA
14. Drew Wolitarsky - UDFA


Tight Ends

Did you know that this is the deepest draft ever for tight ends according to all the draft "experts"? Did you know this also happens to be the blackest TE class I can ever recall? That's some caste logic if I ever heard it. Bear in mind in the current NFL the TE position is dominated by elite white players. If you end up watching the draft don't be surprised to hear alot of caste speak like this guy is raw, not a great blocker , more of a receiver than tight end but has tons of upside etc. This draft is full of upside laden, future black TE disappointments. Entering the season Michigan TE Jake Buttwas being penciled in as a 1st round pick but he suffered an ACL injury in his bowl game. He is now being treated as almost an afterthought. A couple of small schoolers - Adam Shaheen and Eric Saubert have benefitted from the draft process and should be drafted in the mid-rounds. George Kittle was widely ignored but blew up the combine and is the most athletic TE in this class and he is actually a really good blocker but since he isn't black, lacks a wide nose or an african last name he won't get the hype of that miami TE who was supposedly the most athletic player at the position.

Draft Projections

1. Jake Butt 2nd-3rd
2. Adam Shaheen 2nd-3rd
3. Eric Saubert - 4th-5th
4. George Kittle - 4th-5th
5. Blake Jarwin - 6th - UDFA
6. Hayden Plinke - 6th - UDFA
7. Scott Orndorff - 6th - UDFA
8. Jacob Hollister - 7th - UDFA
9. Colin Jeter - UDFA
10. Josiah Price - UDFA
11. Jake Maulhardt - UDFA
12. Taylor McNamaa - UDFA
13. Mason Schreck - UDFA
14. Antony Auclair - UDFA


Offensive Guard

Another year, another batch of sumos. Their is white talent here and the two top projected guards are white. Forrest Lamp was a left tackle in college and a very good one but since he doesn't have the supposed arm length everyone is pushing him to guard. We have guys from big time programs like Michigan and Georgia but all the experts decided to cram a bunch of small schools sumos in to push these guys down the rankings.

Draft Projections

1. Forrest Lamp - 1st
2. Dan Feeney - 1st-2nd
3. Ben Braden - 5th - UDFA
4. Cameron Lee - 6th - UDFA
5. Kyle Kalis - 6th - UDFA
6. Corey Levin - 6th - UDFA
7. Sean Harlow - 7th - UDFA
8. Greg Pyke - UDFA
9. Erik Austell - UDFA



Center

A position that is dominated by white players.

1. Pat Elflein - 3rd-4th
2. Ethan Pocic - 4th - 5th
3. Tyler Orlosky - 5th
4. Chase Roullier - 6th - UDFA
5. Jon Toth - 7TH - UDFA
6. JJ Dielman - 7th - UDFA


Offensive Tackle

Much like Offensive Guard, the tackle rankings find two great white talents at the top. Plenty of other good white tackles are available but again like OG they are pushed down the rankings by long armed, upside laden, small school players. This is not a comprehensive list but these seem to be the most talked about white tackles.

1. Garrett Bolles - 1st
2. Ryan Ramczyk - 1st
3. Adam Bisnowaty - 4th
4. Will Holden - 4th
5. Erik Magnuson - 6th - UDFA
6. Connor McDermott - 6TH - UDFA
7. Storm Norton - 6TH - UDFA
8. Chad Wheeler - 6TH - UDFA
9. Nathan Theaker - 6TH - UDFA



Defensive End

Hendrickson was criminally underrated all season, during the draft process and still is being considered a 4th rounder at best. Dimick was one of the most productive DEs in college football during his career. He was a combine and senior bowl snub but performed well at his pro day. The prospect list is thin thanks to the caste system.

1. Trey Hendrickson - 3rd - 4th
2. Hunter Dimick - 5th - UDFA
3. Garrett Sickles - 6th - UDFA
4. Pat O'Connor - UDFA
5. Karter Schult - UDFA
6. Evan Schwan - UDFA


Defensive Tackle

Every player on this list is more than capable of being a solid NFL defensive tackle. However the trend is to convert white Dline men to Oline starting in college. Glasgow could be the latest victim of this caste trend. Hopefully he goes to a team that will not do that. Joey Ivie played well in the supposed best conference in the country, performed well at the Shrine game but was a combine/senior bowl snub. Bevins was a productive small school guy and tested out well much like Justin Zimmer last year.

1. Ryan Glasgow - 4th - 6th
2. Joey Ivie - 6th - UDFA
3. Matthew Godin - 6th - UDFA
4. Collin Bevins - 7th - UDFA
5. Casey Sayles - UDFA
6. Truman Gutapfel - UDFA
7. Patrick Ricard - UDFA
8. AJ Wolf - UDFA
9. Rob Bain - UDFA
10. Cole Langer - UDFA
11. Danny O'Brien - UDFA


OLB

Seeing another Watt getting drafted early will be a consolation prize but again this list is full of white players who were very good and productive in college and tested out average or above average athletically only to be considered fringe draftable players. Hopefully we are surprised on draft day but I am not holding my breath. Munson and Brown should easily be 3rd/4th rounders in a fair world. Milano would be a good S/LB hybrid.

1. TJ Watt - 1st - 2nd
2. Vince Biegel - 4th
3. Matt Milano - 5th - UDFA
4. Dylan Donahue - 6th - UDFA
5. Richie Brown - 6th - UDFA
6. Calvin Munson - 6th - UDFA



ILB

Anzalone should be a quality LB in the NFL. Gedeon is a traditional "tackling machine" LB which is exactly what an LB should be. Vallejo might surprise as he has had some buzz around him. Boulware will probably suffer from Scooby Wright syndrome - being a talented playmaker all over the field but since he ran a slow 40 will be downgraded.

1. Alex Anzalone - 3RD - 4th
2. Ben Gedeon - 5th - 7th
3. Tanner Vallejo - 5th - 7th
4. Ben Boulware - 6th - UDFA
5. Brooks Ellis - 7th - UDFA
6. Riley Bullough - UDFA


Safety

What started out as a promising draft class prior to the season has pretty much fallen apart due to the caste system. Gerry was projected as a 2/3rd rounder but is now being viewed as a late rounder. Steelhammer has pretty much fallen off the map and when compared to the overrated Navy black quarterback who had no position yet was drafted, Steelhammer has recieved no such notoriety of being a great player at a service academy. Dallas Reynolds is another overlooked player, he may go a little earlier than expected. Musso was a playmaker all season - knocked Fournette out of the game and tested well but since he is white and undersized is being written off. I don't even know what the deal with Barton and Hoffpauir are - no pro day workout numbers. They might of just walked away from the game rather than deal with the caste system. DeAndrade is a CB but projected to his racially correct position.

1. Nate Gerry - 4th - 6th
2. Dallas Reynolds - 5th - UDFA
3. Casey DeAndrade - UDFA
4. Tony Annese - UDFA
5. Leo Musso - UDFA
6. Corbin McCarthy - UDFA
7. Weston Steelhammer - UDFA
8. Anthony Cioffi - UDFA
9. Dylan Haines - UDFA
10. Zach Hoffpauir - not pursuing football?
11. Taylor Barton - not pursuing football?

Another running back to consider getting a camp invite is Dalton Crossan.......

 

[The Hock]

 

[Deceptive Speed]

http://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2017/04/13/chiefs-try-out-local-lb-connor-harris-at-fullback/
Damn the Chiefs are trying Connor Harris at Fullback. However it does say that they still view him as a day 3 pick. They want him as a hybrid LB/FB, hopefully he shows in camp for whoever drafts him that he is a amazing LB. He holds the all time NCAA record for tackles with 633!

 

[whiteathlete33]

CBS mock draft has MCaffrey going #8 to the Panthers and WR Cooper Kupp going in the second round to the Bills...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...-pick-trade-and-draft-class-for-all-32-teams/

The question remains will Kupp be given an opportunity or get screwed like Mike Hass. Hass was screwed because he ran a 4.6 40. Kupp is in the same boat.

 

[La France Blanche]

After the Bills' poor treatment of Chris Hogan, I don't trust them with Kupp.

 

[Don Wassall]

The last place Kupp needs to be is on one of the very blackest teams in the league, one with a scatter-armed quarterback who can effortlessly derail the careers of the most talented receivers, even if by some miracle Kupp was given a fair opportunity to compete by the Bills.

 

[McCaffrey Dude]

I think I was the first person on this site 5 years ago to bring up Crossan especially when he had an offer from Syracuse and opted for New Hampshire instead. It was noted by a number of us back then how quick his feet were. I mean just the quickest leg movement I have ever seen in a player at any level.
I just got done watching his 2016 highlights. This kid is a legit low 4.4 forty guy and he has some McCaffrey cutting ability which I never noticed in his high school tapes. I think he a a legit shot to make a 53 man roster if he goes to the right team. If Zenner, Wegher and Varga could make it recently this kid has the ability of any D1 back coming out this year. He is really impressive and has that Switzer/McCaffrey elusivness. Lets cross our fingers.

 

[Deceptive Speed]

The question remains will Kupp be given an opportunity or get screwed like Mike Hass. Hass was screwed because he ran a 4.6 40. Kupp is in the same boat.

I think Kupp will be different, scouts are actually not too worried about his "average" 40 time stating his quickness, route running, and sure hands are among the best in the draft. Hass was also from a different era. I think it's a better time to be a white reciever than the 2000's and 90's, because of the success of Welker, Jordy, Decker etc. DWF's are starting to realize that hey white guy's can be legit star receivers.

 

[The Hock]

I tuned into the NFL channel and there's the draft going on! Man it snuck up on me. And there's a white O-lineman going early in the first. A real dark horse there. So later I googled the draft to see how it was going and nothing. Then I checked back and the NFL channel was just showing a repeat of the 2015 draft. Cheesy if you ask me. How many people are actually watching the draft from a year ago? Whoever is watching, maybe aside from family and friends of the drafted, they need to get a life.

 

[La France Blanche]

I tuned into the NFL channel and there's the draft going on! Man it snuck up on me. And there's a white O-lineman going early in the first. A real dark horse there. So later I googled the draft to see how it was going and nothing. Then I checked back and the NFL channel was just showing a repeat of the 2015 draft. Cheesy if you ask me. How many people are actually watching the draft from a year ago? Whoever is watching, maybe aside from family and friends of the drafted, they need to get a life.

If that was 2015, that must have been Brandon Scherff, the only White man picked out of the first 48(!) players drafted. Unsurprisingly, Scherff started right away for the Redskins and made it to the Pro Bowl.

 

[The Hock]

If that was 2015, that must have been Brandon Scherff, the only White man picked out of the first 48(!) players drafted. Unsurprisingly, Scherff started right away for the Redskins and made it to the Pro Bowl.

Yeah I remember last year being bad.

 

[Leonardfan]

I think Kupp will be different, scouts are actually not too worried about his "average" 40 time stating his quickness, route running, and sure hands are among the best in the draft. Hass was also from a different era. I think it's a better time to be a white reciever than the 2000's and 90's, because of the success of Welker, Jordy, Decker etc. DWF's are starting to realize that hey white guy's can be legit star receivers.

Kupp has gotten a ton more positive coverage than Hass ever did. Hass was final straw for me though, I became fully racially aware after seeing him get screwed over.. Whites have been able to make some marginal progress in the WR department over the past decade but I still won't put it past the NFL to completely screw him over (along with Hansen, Switzer, Taylor and the rest of our guys).

My advice for everyone here is not to get their expectations up because year in and year out during the draft NFL teams seem to do their best and draft anonymous, less talented blacks over picking a gifted, productive white athlete.

 

[Leonardfan]

Arkansas WRs Cody Hollister and Keon Hatcher and Wyoming TE Jacob Hollister are conducting a workout for NFL scouts on Monday morning in Fayetteville, Ark.

The Razorback receivers, Cody Hollister (toe surgery) and Hatcher (hamstring), were unable to participate in Arkansas' pro day due to injury. Jacob Hollister, Cody's brother, was given permission by the NFL to take part in the workout. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport believes it's "likely" that all three get taken on Day 3 (Round 4-7).


Cody Hollister is another potential WR candidate and Jacob Hollister is someone I probably missed in my write up.

 

[Leonardfan]

Article on Chad Kelly. Maybe the Bills will draft him for one of my favorite missing posters Italian Stallion! Kelly was very good as a senior (he had a stellar junior campaing as well) until he was injured. If New Miss had a defense they would of upset Alabama early in the season due to his great game (same can be said for the Free Shoes game). Kelly's unfortunate timing with injuries - ACL in November/Wrist at pro day really decimated his draft stock. His un-invite to the combine was pure BS though as a black TE did not have his invitation revoked after he stole from the store that was sponsoring his bowl game.

http://buffalonews.com/2017/04/22/3-reasons-bills-draft-ole-miss-qb-chad-kelly/

 

[Don Wassall]

Expect lots and lots of busts again this year as the NFL continues to try to make lemonade out of an annually shrinking crop of lemons. If this is the best potential number one overall pick the "experts" can come up with, then our "recent busts" thread should continue to grow and grow. Warren Sapp is not a bad source here as he was a standout defensive tackle for a number of years.

Warren Sapp blasts Myles Garrett, says he shouldn’t be the No. 1 pick

Warren Sapp knows what it takes to dominate at the line of scrimmage, and the Hall of Fame defensive lineman says he doesn’t see those traits in former Texas A&M star Myles Garrett.

Sapp said he’s broken down some of Garrett’s game tape and can’t understand why the 21-year-old is poised to be the No. 1 pick in Thursday’s NFL Draft.

“I don’t see it from this kid,” Sapp said Sunday,via ESPN. “I see the splash plays — everybody gets those. Where’s the game he took over? Where? Any defensive lineman who’s the No. 1 pick, you turn up and you say, ‘There it is!’ This kid, no, I don’t. I’m a pretty plain and frank guy, and I watch the tape and he disappears. I watch the tape and he absolutely disappears.”

Sapp, who racked up 96 ½ sacks during his 13-year career, says he doesn’t see a player with a high motor and believes the Browns should go in a different direction with the top pick.

“I see a lazy kid that makes four plays a game,” Sapp said. “This is the No. 1 guy? No, no, no. This ain’t even close.”

So why are the scouts so impressed with Garrett? Sapp says it has everything to do with his size and speed, intangibles that can’t be taught.

“It’s all about measurable,” he said. “Once you hit the measurable, it’s tough to get them old scout people off the numbers, and that’s what [Garrett] has. He’s big and he’s fast. Now some defensive line coach is thinking, ‘I can turn him into something.’ How? I’m trying to figure this out. Really? Are we lowering the bar?”

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...rett-says-he-shouldnt-be-the-no-1-pick-042317

 

[Leonardfan]

Sounds a lot like Clowney who has been a huge disappointment when compared to the hype thrown on him in college and leading up to the draft.

 

[celticdb15]

Yes the bar has been lowered.

 

[Shadowlight]

NFL people get paid big money to figure these things out but as we know it is an inexact science and they often are dead wrong. Garrett does pass the eye test athletically but Sapp makes a good point. I would agree Garrett was good (sometimes making a spectacular play) in bits and pieces but never a sustained domination through out a game. I can't say either way on Garrett's pro future but their are question marks make no mistake about it. You wonder if Cleveland should trade the top spot and pick up more first /second round picks?

 

[Heretic]

Expect lots and lots of busts again this year as the NFL continues to try to make lemonade out of an annually shrinking crop of lemons. If this is the best potential number one overall pick the "experts" can come up with, then our "recent busts" thread should continue to grow and grow. Warren Sapp is not a bad source here as he was a standout defensive tackle for a number of years.

Warren Sapp blasts Myles Garrett, says he shouldn’t be the No. 1 pick

Warren Sapp knows what it takes to dominate at the line of scrimmage, and the Hall of Fame defensive lineman says he doesn’t see those traits in former Texas A&M star Myles Garrett.

Sapp said he’s broken down some of Garrett’s game tape and can’t understand why the 21-year-old is poised to be the No. 1 pick in Thursday’s NFL Draft.

“I don’t see it from this kid,” Sapp said Sunday,via ESPN. “I see the splash plays — everybody gets those. Where’s the game he took over? Where? Any defensive lineman who’s the No. 1 pick, you turn up and you say, ‘There it is!’ This kid, no, I don’t. I’m a pretty plain and frank guy, and I watch the tape and he disappears. I watch the tape and he absolutely disappears.”

Sapp, who racked up 96 ½ sacks during his 13-year career, says he doesn’t see a player with a high motor and believes the Browns should go in a different direction with the top pick.

“I see a lazy kid that makes four plays a game,” Sapp said. “This is the No. 1 guy? No, no, no. This ain’t even close.”

So why are the scouts so impressed with Garrett? Sapp says it has everything to do with his size and speed, intangibles that can’t be taught.


“It’s all about measurable,” he said. “Once you hit the measurable, it’s tough to get them old scout people off the numbers, and that’s what [Garrett] has. He’s big and he’s fast. Now some defensive line coach is thinking, ‘I can turn him into something.’ How? I’m trying to figure this out. Really? Are we lowering the bar?”

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...rett-says-he-shouldnt-be-the-no-1-pick-042317

Yeah, the most important "measurable" is being black in the eyes of the "professional" scouts and NFL "analysts".

 

[Leonardfan]

NFL people get paid big money to figure these things out but as we know it is an inexact science and they often are dead wrong. Garrett does pass the eye test athletically but Sapp makes a good point. I would agree Garrett was good (sometimes making a spectacular play) in bits and pieces but never a sustained domination through out a game. I can't say either way on Garrett's pro future but their are question marks make no mistake about it. You wonder if Cleveland should trade the top spot and pick up more first /second round picks?

Cleveland has 11 picks this year, they did alot of wheeling and dealing during the draft last year for future picks. I honestly think they stay at number 1 and draft Garrett. My hope is they do not take Trubisky with their 2nd 1st rounder and bring in one of the mediocre overhyped black quarterbacks like Kaaya or Dobbs so they get beaten out by Kessler. Bringing in a black quarterback in the first or 2nd round - Hue Jackson would hand him the job like he did with the gremlin last season.

NFL people are dead wrong more often than not because of the amount of importance the place in black skin above all else. That's the truth and what makes the caste system tick. Hundreds of white NFL draft prospects each year are overlooked because of their skin, thousands are overlooked at the college recruiting level because of their skin.