2017 NFL Draft

[McCaffrey Dude]

I am not sure if it has been reported here but draftdaddy.com has shut down due to a technical error and are reporting that they do not plan on restarting the sight. Bummer. Just when it could not get worse.

 

[Shadowlight]

Good points Van and Switzer is physically more gifted than Welker.

 

[Shadowlight]

A few parting shots from another caste reinforcing combine. These NFL combines only reinforce the "black superiority" caste theme and it does not help that we had so few skill athletes, as usual, and none of them came close to running a 4.3 40 yard dash. Sure I know shuttle times etc. are important but for the general public it is all about the 40 yard dash. One thing I did notice is they did not play around with the 40 yard dash times to any major extent. Heck I remember not too long ago a white WR would run an unofficial time of 4.46 and lo and behold the final tally would have him at 4.50. That said you are going to see some fast times (mainly by black players since they dominate in numbers) at pro days but those times are hand held and not accurate. They are usually a second or even more too fast so all of these Clemson players and others who skipped running at the combine beware of their inflated numbers.
Apart from this inane deal every year where Rich Eisen runs the 40 in a suit no less many have called the combine the Underwear Olympics and scouts insist that tapes of the players is far and away the most important tool guide. Yet I have checked out some post combine mock drafts and inevitably several (black) guys that ran a fast 40 got jumped up to the first round. These are the same guys who were considered mid round picks prior to the combine. I am not positive but I think Mel Kiper is one of the few who did not bite on John Ross. I much prefer Kiper over McShay. Todd McShay is the type of new wave ESPN caste hound that ESPN has hired over the past decade plus. Case in point, McShay was "surprised" CM ran a faster time than the other three top running backs. Talk about showing your hand!

 

[Extra Point]

Case in point, McShay was "surprised" CM ran a faster time than the other three top running backs. Talk about showing your hand!

Yeah, they're always "surprised" when a white man tests out to be athletic.

Year after year it's the same thing.

 

[jacknyc]

Shannon Sharpe on Christian McCaffrey:

Shannon: If Christian McCaffrey was black, he’d be picked in the top 10


"If he was black, this dude would be a top-10 pick. Because guess what, Skip? He ran one tick slower than Ezekiel Elliott. He had a 5.5-inch higher vertical. He had four inches on the standing long jump, and his short shuttle was 6.57. Odell Beckham Jr. ran a slower time -- now we know how quick Odell Beckham Jr. is in a confined space.

"In 2015, he rushed for 2,019 yards. He broke Barry Sanders’ record for most total yards in a season. He followed that up with 1,600 rush yards, another 300 catching and another 400 returning punts.

"We already know the guy can catch. He’s got cat quickness, there’s not a route he can’t run. He could legitimately be a receiver in the National Football League.

"… He checked everything. ‘He looks fast.’ Ran fast. ‘He looks explosive.’ He was explosive. ‘He looks quick.’ Short shuttle says he’s quick. ‘He look like he’s got great hands.’ Check, check, check, check, check.

"But because he’s white … we don’t normally see white guys being running backs taken in the first round. When was the last one, CC? I can’t even remember."

 

[NolanCromwell]

Shannon Sharpe on Christian McCaffrey:

Shannon: If Christian McCaffrey was black, he’d be picked in the top 10


"If he was black, this dude would be a top-10 pick. Because guess what, Skip? He ran one tick slower than Ezekiel Elliott. He had a 5.5-inch higher vertical. He had four inches on the standing long jump, and his short shuttle was 6.57. Odell Beckham Jr. ran a slower time -- now we know how quick Odell Beckham Jr. is in a confined space.

"In 2015, he rushed for 2,019 yards. He broke Barry Sanders’ record for most total yards in a season. He followed that up with 1,600 rush yards, another 300 catching and another 400 returning punts.

"We already know the guy can catch. He’s got cat quickness, there’s not a route he can’t run. He could legitimately be a receiver in the National Football League.

"… He checked everything. ‘He looks fast.’ Ran fast. ‘He looks explosive.’ He was explosive. ‘He looks quick.’ Short shuttle says he’s quick. ‘He look like he’s got great hands.’ Check, check, check, check, check.

"But because he’s white … we don’t normally see white guys being running backs taken in the first round. When was the last one, CC? I can’t even remember."

You have to give it to Shannon Sharpe on this one. He had a similar comment about Ed McCaffrey in the late 90's or 2000 when they were both on Denver. He was suggesting if Ed McCaffrey was black and as tall and fast as he is , he would be getting tons of press and should be one of the highest paid WRs in the league. More so than many other high profile former athletes/ sports commentators I've heard he'll call out the double standard & caste system when glaringly apparent.

 

[Westside]

Shannon Sharpe on Christian McCaffrey:

Shannon: If Christian McCaffrey was black, he’d be picked in the top 10


"If he was black, this dude would be a top-10 pick. Because guess what, Skip? He ran one tick slower than Ezekiel Elliott. He had a 5.5-inch higher vertical. He had four inches on the standing long jump, and his short shuttle was 6.57. Odell Beckham Jr. ran a slower time -- now we know how quick Odell Beckham Jr. is in a confined space.

"In 2015, he rushed for 2,019 yards. He broke Barry Sanders’ record for most total yards in a season. He followed that up with 1,600 rush yards, another 300 catching and another 400 returning punts.

"We already know the guy can catch. He’s got cat quickness, there’s not a route he can’t run. He could legitimately be a receiver in the National Football League.

"… He checked everything. ‘He looks fast.’ Ran fast. ‘He looks explosive.’ He was explosive. ‘He looks quick.’ Short shuttle says he’s quick. ‘He look like he’s got great hands.’ Check, check, check, check, check.

"But because he’s white … we don’t normally see white guys being running backs taken in the first round. When was the last one, CC? I can’t even remember."

What was Skip "clueless," response? dah dah and dah.

 

[Deceptive Speed]

A few parting shots from another caste reinforcing combine. These NFL combines only reinforce the "black superiority" caste theme and it does not help that we had so few skill athletes, as usual, and none of them came close to running a 4.3 40 yard dash. Sure I know shuttle times etc. are important but for the general public it is all about the 40 yard dash. One thing I did notice is they did not play around with the 40 yard dash times to any major extent. Heck I remember not too long ago a white WR would run an unofficial time of 4.46 and lo and behold the final tally would have him at 4.50. That said you are going to see some fast times (mainly by black players since they dominate in numbers) at pro days but those times are hand held and not accurate. They are usually a second or even more too fast so all of these Clemson players and others who skipped running at the combine beware of their inflated numbers.
Apart from this inane deal every year where Rich Eisen runs the 40 in a suit no less many have called the combine the Underwear Olympics and scouts insist that tapes of the players is far and away the most important tool guide. Yet I have checked out some post combine mock drafts and inevitably several (black) guys that ran a fast 40 got jumped up to the first round. These are the same guys who were considered mid round picks prior to the combine. I am not positive but I think Mel Kiper is one of the few who did not bite on John Ross. I much prefer Kiper over McShay. Todd McShay is the type of new wave ESPN caste hound that ESPN has hired over the past decade plus. Case in point, McShay was "surprised" CM ran a faster time than the other three top running backs. Talk about showing your hand!

Ben Boulware was one of those Clemson guy's that didn't run at the combine, so let's atleast hope it helps him.

 

[jacknyc]

Cris Carter: McCaffrey is being underrated, just like Jordy Nelson was


"It’s been a long time. We just have to admit there are stereotypes. And around the National Football League, we saw this last season, we always hear it with New England with their wide receivers. It’s a stereotype. ‘Can caucasians play the skill positions, wide receiver and running back?’ Yes, they can.

"I don’t feel like he’s being disrespected, but I feel like his skills -- sometimes people don’t appropriate the skills from college into the pro game. What I’d like to compare him to his Jordy Nelson, because Jordy Nelson, I believe, was underrated coming out of Kansas State.

"There is one thing I’m worried about. I’m worried about his overall body strength. Because 225, I haven’t been lifting weights in a while, but I know I can throw that up right now eight to 10 times. So his overall body strength and his ability to be able to endure an entire NFL season, I might bring that into question. But the best matchups in the NFL passing game are the running backs versus the linebackers and the tight ends versus the linebackers and the safeties."

 

[PHillisFan]

You have to give it to Shannon Sharpe on this one. He had a similar comment about Ed McCaffrey in the late 90's or 2000 when they were both on Denver. He was suggesting if Ed McCaffrey was black and as tall and fast as he is , he would be getting tons of press and should be one of the highest paid WRs in the league. More so than many other high profile former athletes/ sports commentators I've heard he'll call out the double standard & caste system when glaringly apparent.

Every now and then an afleet will state the obvious because they hardly ever worry about being called a racist.

 

[Don Wassall]

It's nice that blacks will occasionally say some things about individual White football players that the castrated "White" caste cucks would never dare say, but if there was ever a White influx into the NFL approaching what it should be -- the league would be roughly 70 to 75 percent White without the Caste System -- virtually all blacks would feel very threatened and would be bitching and weeping like Joe Morgan has for the last 30 years about how "blacks are fading from baseball." Iron Rule #2 of Cultural Communist Amerika 2.0 -- once something "goes black" it's never allowed to go back. Amerika 2.0 is built on lies built on top of lies, especially when it comes to anything involving race.

 

[Shadowlight]

I think these occasional black outbursts are too sporadic to amount to much of anything that lingers. Only Chris Carter, who comes across as thoughtful, has been somewhat consistent over the past year or two in pointing out stereotypes. He was once a constant presence on the Mike and Mike show but was dismissed not too long after he discussed white wide receivers like Edelman and Jordy. Coincidence I am sure but to me the biggest hurdle facing white athletes start at a young age. This is a whole new discussion but let me just say white kids are too sedentary playing with their phones etc. while black kids like John Ross are running around all the time. Black kids are on a mission and are doing things with their bodies at a young age that help them become stellar athletes. Far too many white kids drop out of sports figuring only blacks are "good at it" so sports takes a back seat to far too many other things like getting laid. For the white kids that do stick with sports too many see it as a recreation and not much else beyond that. The CB position is a great example of young white athletes not trying to push through. There are other societal reasons why whites have gone missing in skill positions as mentioned many times at caste but we should not ignore the way white kids are brought up. It is also worth noting that the difference in the top end speed numbers of black and white athletes at these NFL combines is extremely dramatic. I would argue even if you bought the notion lock stock and barrel that black athletes are faster (in general) the numbers of the fastest subset are almost as striking as you would see if two different sexes were running. Even if you factor in the tiny pool of white skill players and DB's represented and that some of the fastest white football players are not invited the gap between the black and white 40 times on the fastest end it begs the question of why ? Are black kids shooting up steroids? Have white athletes atrophied to the point of no return. Are blacks really that much superior even though the best science on the subject suggests there" might" be a slight overall difference between blacks and whites when it comes to running speed. Perhaps the pool of white players playing football has dried up considerably for reasons mentioned here at caste. I am not saying the white athletes are not athletic I am just saying the high end 40 times at the combines ( 4.3 seconds low 4.4's) are nearly all run by the black guys. Year after stinking year. And it makes me miserable beyond belief.
But back to the subject on hand I made it a point to listen to Mike and Mike this morning when Todd McShay was a guest. Going into the draft it seems the two biggest talking points for the dastardly duo were the RB's and QB's. Predictably Greenberg was cooing over Cook. This morning they covered a lot of territory but managed to avoid one mention of this years crop of running backs including of course CM. Some things will never change.

 

[celticdb15]

I think these occasional black outbursts are too sporadic to amount to much of anything that lingers. Only Chris Carter, who comes across as thoughtful, has been somewhat consistent over the past year or two in pointing out stereotypes. He was once a constant presence on the Mike and Mike show but was dismissed not too long after he discussed white wide receivers like Edelman and Jordy. Coincidence I am sure but to me the biggest hurdle facing white athletes start at a young age. This is a whole new discussion but let me just say white kids are too sedentary playing with their phones etc. while black kids like John Ross are running around all the time. Black kids are on a mission and are doing things with their bodies at a young age that help them become stellar athletes. Far too many white kids drop out of sports figuring only blacks are "good at it" so sports takes a back seat to far too many other things like getting laid. For the white kids that do stick with sports too many see it as a recreation and not much else beyond that. The CB position is a great example of young white athletes not trying to push through. There are other societal reasons why whites have gone missing in skill positions as mentioned many times at caste but we should not ignore the way white kids are brought up. It is also worth noting that the difference in the top end speed numbers of black and white athletes at these NFL combines is extremely dramatic. I would argue even if you bought the notion lock stock and barrel that black athletes are faster (in general) the numbers of the fastest subset are almost as striking as you would see if two different sexes were running. Even if you factor in the tiny pool of white skill players and DB's represented and that some of the fastest white football players are not invited the gap between the black and white 40 times on the fastest end it begs the question of why ? Are black kids shooting up steroids? Have white athletes atrophied to the point of no return. Are blacks really that much superior even though the best science on the subject suggests there" might" be a slight overall difference between blacks and whites when it comes to running speed. Perhaps the pool of white players playing football has dried up considerably for reasons mentioned here at caste. I am not saying the white athletes are not athletic I am just saying the high end 40 times at the combines ( 4.3 seconds low 4.4's) are nearly all run by the black guys. Year after stinking year. And it makes me miserable beyond belief.
But back to the subject on hand I made it a point to listen to Mike and Mike this morning when Todd McShay was a guest. Going into the draft it seems the two biggest talking points for the dastardly duo were the RB's and QB's. Predictably Greenberg was cooing over Fultz. This morning they covered a lot of territory but managed to avoid one mention of this years crop of running backs including of course CM. Some things will never change.

That's why they run the 40! They've successfully turned the NFL Combine into a track meet. How convenient most of the events highlight blacks slight advantages over us in straight line speed and jumping, nonetheless in spandex shorts.. Every year media, scouts, gms, etc, fall in love with a workout warrior who can't transition his skills to playing field. Dat Upside!

 

[celticdb15]

I'm still seeing a Day3 tag on George Kittle despite his eye opening workout! 6'4 250 with a 4.52 40. Not to mention one of the biggest TE prospects in an undersized but affletic TE class. He's also one of the only TEs this year who happened to play in a pro style offense where he was actually required to be a factor in the run game! What a concept! Most of the upside TEs are one dimensional bulked up WRs. As others mentioned, I don't care about their willingness to block, can they block?!

 

[Leonardfan]

I'm still seeing a Day3 tag on George Kittle despite his eye opening workout! 6'4 250 with a 4.52 40. Not to mention one of the biggest TE prospects in an undersized but affletic TE class. He's also one of the only TEs this year who happened to play in a pro style offense where he was actually required to be a factor in the run game! What a concept! Most of the upside TEs are one dimensional bulked up WRs. As others mentioned, I don't care about their willingness to block, can they block?!

PFF has a favorable article about Kittle being the best all around TE enetering the 2016 CFBseason.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/co...-george-kittle-best-all-around-tight-end-cfb/


Amazing how the draft cucks are still not recognizing him after he performed better at the combine than their black african hype job out of Miami. Kittle will hopefully rise in NFL circles. Hopefully Kittle, Saubert and Shaheen all surprise us and get drafted above a few of the black undersized glorified WRs that Phil Savage tweeted about being the deepest and most athletic TE class he can remember.

I think overall the LB group will net us 7-8 draft picks this year and will probably be the best group for us outside of o-line.

 

[Leonardfan]

More cuck fagg0try "analysis" from weenieworld:

Packers beat writer Bob McGinn spoke with one NFL scout who said UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky is his top prospect in the draft.

"I wanted to compare him to (Brett) Favre but he’s a much better athlete than Favre and he’s faster than Favre," the evaluator told McGinn. Yes, you read that correctly. An NFL scout wants to compare a college prospect with 13 total starts to Brett Favre. The scout then praised Trubisky mobility and called him a Marcus Mariota-type. We can conceivably understand the top overall ranking since Trubisky plays quarterback and a prospect with a quality starter game should be at the top of boards. But he's not Brett Favre.


The ******** over at weenieworld had no issue when the magical mulatto Mahomes was compared to Farve though.

 

[celticdb15]

Making comparisons with rookie QBs to Hall of Famers is about as stupid as it gets!

 

[Leonardfan]

Making comparisons with rookie QBs to Hall of Famers is about as stupid as it gets!

I don't disagree at all but the vitriol and sarcasm in which that attack Trubisky pisses me off. Meanwhile they are all in on hyping up Mahomes.

 

[Shadowlight]

That's why they run the 40! They've successfully turned the NFL Combine into a track meet. How convenient most of the events highlight blacks slight advantages over us in straight line speed and jumping, nonetheless in spandex shorts.. Every year media, scouts, gms, etc, fall in love with a workout warrior who can't transition his skills to playing field. Dat Upside!

Celtic I think the difference between the fastest times run by blacks at these combines is way more than slightly better than the whites. I can only think of three white wide receivers who ran 4.3 40 yard dashes in the last 12 years. Devon Wylie, Ryan Swope and back in 2005 Matt Jones. Jeff Janis is "officially" listed at 4.42 but I thought he ran a 4.29 on one of his runs but if you go by the official time he ran a 4.42.This year two blacks ran a 4.2 with one of them setting a record. Five more ran in the 4.3s and I don't have the exact number of black guys who ran it in the low 4.4s but I'm guessing up to 25 or more ran faster than the closest white ,CM, who was the only white to hit the 4.4 mark. And this is a trend that goes back 15 years or more. This is the" enemy" we are up against and I think one of the first steps to correct an ongoing problem is to look it in the eye.
The scientists who believe that blacks are "faster" would likely formulate the difference between whites and blacks at the highest end at probably say around .01 to .03 seconds if that. Using this formula then we could expect to see several whites run in the 4.4 range every year and even a few at 4.3. The real life combine differences are much larger than that. Again the pool of white players is becoming so miniscule a more accurate reading in speed differences is near impossible. Is there also a plausible explanation as to why it seems the fastest black players are getting faster and the fastest white players are getting slower according to the combine results and that this trend shows no sign of abating in football?
These combines have become ruinous to white athletes because they reconfirm and then some what many people think--that black athletes are just so much faster than their white counterparts. My own personal belief is this is a problem that can be improved on immeasurably but it is way too complicated for me to see how that can be achieved at this point in time given the culture of sports today etc.
I also refuse to believe this status quo these combines have settled into is the way it SHOULD BE. I just cannot get my head around to the idea that blacks are that much faster if at all especially given the history of white athletes going all the way back to the 1920's.

 

[Don Wassall]

Many of the fastest Whites switch to baseball, lacrosse, and other sports. And the ones who stick to football are systematically slotted to the racially appropriate positions in high school and earlier, and then denied scholarships at the major college programs, which serve as the NFL's minor leagues. And then many more are snubbed by the Combine, including a lot of fast players at the small schools.

It's more complicated than that of course, but how many black burners (4.39 or faster) were there out of the total number of black RBs, WRs, safeties and cornerbacks at this year's Combine? It was a small percentage. The Olympics up until 1984 or so showed that Whites could compete very well in the sprints, and some still do. If the Caste System were reversed and it was Whites nurtured along and given the great bulk of the opportunities, there would be more White burners at events like the Combine. But like so much else in this society, results are artificially brought about. If one just watched televised football and basketball, along with commercials and network programming in general, one would be convinced that the U.S. is a black majority country and that there are nearly as many Asians as Whites. The (fake news) media is pushing an agenda, one that appears cartoonish and primitive to those with eyes to see, but the great bulk of the White population is indoctrinated into it to a frightening degree and are seemingly impervious to racial realism.

 

[celticdb15]

For what it's worth average safety 40yd dash over past 5 years has been a 4.57!! I'm very confident most of our prospects that were ignored would have timed in the 4.5-4.6 range if not better than the mean time. No doubt there were some burners in this year's DB class, specifically at CB. I'll do some digging to see average CB time.

 

[Shadowlight]

Nothing like getting and playing a white wide receiver to turn me, at least speaking for myself,
into a fan of a team I can't stand otherwise but Austin Gayle from Raiders Wire makes a great case for Ryan Switzer as their slot man of the future. They need one and I think he fits their system. Lets see if they can pull the trigger.

 

[McCaffrey Dude]

The only positive thing I can make from some bad 40 times ( though we all know they are soooooo overrated ) is that our guys usually get the shaft no matter how they perform. I can name so many whites over the last 20 years that never even got drafted that wound up making a final roster and eventually dominating.
Look at our 3 undrafted rbs last year. Zenner, Varga and Wegher all made 53 man rosters. Unfortunately so many of our guys never get a sniff the ones that do make it get weeded out by the caste system or injury or even valor like Pat Tillman.
If a lot of our DBs and WRs don't get drafted I still seeing them making a huge splash via free agency.

 

[Leonardfan]

Nothing like getting and playing a white wide receiver to turn me, at least speaking for myself,
into a fan of a team I can't stand otherwise but Austin Gayle from Raiders Wire makes a great case for Ryan Switzer as their slot man of the future. They need one and I think he fits their system. Lets see if they can pull the trigger.

I think the Raiders would be a bad fit. McKenzie has put together a coal black team and Black Jack seems to love every minute of being the head coach. They already put uber-athletic and productive Ben Heeny on the periphery of their roster. I honestly don't think any white player out side of an interior lineman will be drafted by Oakland as long as the current regime is in place.

 

[dolphins15]

Celtic I think the difference between the fastest times run by blacks at these combines is way more than slightly better than the whites. I can only think of three white wide receivers who ran 4.3 40 yard dashes in the last 12 years. Devon Wylie, Ryan Swope and back in 2005 Matt Jones. Jeff Janis is "officially" listed at 4.42 but I thought he ran a 4.29 on one of his runs but if you go by the official time he ran a 4.42.This year two blacks ran a 4.2 with one of them setting a record. Five more ran in the 4.3s and I don't have the exact number of black guys who ran it in the low 4.4s but I'm guessing up to 25 or more ran faster than the closest white ,CM, who was the only white to hit the 4.4 mark. And this is a trend that goes back 15 years or more. This is the" enemy" we are up against and I think one of the first steps to correct an ongoing problem is to look it in the eye.
The scientists who believe that blacks are "faster" would likely formulate the difference between whites and blacks at the highest end at probably say around .01 to .03 seconds if that. Using this formula then we could expect to see several whites run in the 4.4 range every year and even a few at 4.3. The real life combine differences are much larger than that. Again the pool of white players is becoming so miniscule a more accurate reading in speed differences is near impossible. Is there also a plausible explanation as to why it seems the fastest black players are getting faster and the fastest white players are getting slower according to the combine results and that this trend shows no sign of abating in football?
These combines have become ruinous to white athletes because they reconfirm and then some what many people think--that black athletes are just so much faster than their white counterparts. My own personal belief is this is a problem that can be improved on immeasurably but it is way too complicated for me to see how that can be achieved at this point in time given the culture of sports today etc.
I also refuse to believe this status quo these combines have settled into is the way it SHOULD BE. I just cannot get my head around to the idea that blacks are that much faster if at all especially given the history of white athletes going all the way back to the 1920's.

Shadow, don't get disheartened. I think part of it is just a numbers game. This years combine there was 1RB, 5 WR, and 1DB. So 7 skill positions guys who even have the chance to run that fast. I don't know the exact number but I would say over 100 black guys at those positions. There are some white guys that just don't get invited also. Max McCaffrey should have got invited and would have run low 4.4 maybe high 4.3. Sam McGuffie would have lit up the combine if given the chance. Dylan Haines should have been invited this year. He was a 3 year starter at TEXAS with 12 career interceptions! But instead they invite at a black safety from St. Francis who ran a 4.7 and tested awful. There are many more white guys that could go to the combine and test very well.

Like Don said though there are many kids though who play other sports (baseball, lacrosse, soccer) instead. Maybe the kids don't want to play football because they watch football games on TV and don't see white people like them so they pick a sport where they do see white people. Or maybe their parents push them into another sport because they don't see white people playing in the NFL so they think their kid would have a better shot at another sport.

But the Caste System is the main reason you don't see those times. In my personal life I can name many white kids who were fast and athletic who didn't play any sports at all. They just thought sports were for the blacks (especially football and basketball). That they just couldn't compete with blacks so they just don't play or don't even try. In my life I can't think of any athletic black kids who didn't play something, because they thought well they are black so they have to be good, or that its their way out.

This doesn't even count the countless amount of kids who do play and get screwed over in recruiting. Who rush for thousands of yards and all-state and players of the year but never get a sniff at a scholarship.

Just think about the poll they did on the combine on who would run faster Richard Sherman or Christian McCaffrey. Any reasonable person who has any idea would be able to watch and see that McCaffrey is faster but in their poll 100% said Richard Sherman!! Or how Julian Edelman is scrappy, slot receiver but Antonio Brown is fast, explosive and game breaker. But Edelman is actually the far better athlete and its backed up by their testing results. But if you took a poll 100% would think Brown is.

I'm not sure on how to break down the caste system. But I know the more people we educate and point out the case system too has to help.