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Yeah, I can just hear them as they type that sentence, "It's time to (SIGH) pick up Long in PPR leagues, even though he SUCKS!, no, is not a great talent.........
These people make me sick. I hope that Lance reads this stuff so that he can have the extra motivation to make them eat those words.
 

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I have never personally watched Lance play, but I know for a fact he is good. My simple reason: if a white guy is allowed to play receiver at a coal black SEC university like Mississippi State then he must have talent.
 

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Lance plays very smoothly. He'll take off, and while not looking fast, leaves the defender in the dust. He's also really quick out of his breaks. I'm glad that he's finally given a big-time shot with the KC offense.
 

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The funny thing about Lance is that he wasn't even a standout player at State. He only had 46 catches for 321 yards in his career and didn't start very many games. He did run a 4.38 at State's pro day, and supposedly had the fastest shuttle time of anyone entering the 2008 draft. I'm really glad a "normal" white WR like him has made it as far as he has.
 

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Maybe there's hope in Chief kingdom, after all. Now, like I mentioned in an earlier post, if they can just draft Toby Gerhart next year, along with a couple of quality white o-linemen, and, of course, pick up Jordan Shipley in the later rounds(!), we might just have something....
 

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Colonel_Reb said:
The funny thing about Lance is that he wasn't even a standout player at State. He only had 46 catches for 321 yards in his career and didn't start very many games. He did run a 4.38 at State's pro day, and supposedly had the fastest shuttle time of anyone entering the 2008 draft. I'm really glad a "normal" white WR like him has made it as far as he has. 

I actually found that out for myself several days ago.  I looked up Long's stats in college and saw that he only had 46 catches in his entire career.  I am amazed that the Chief's gave Long a chance but whites with much better careers like Hass, Ball, and Swan are getting screwed.
 

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I am hoping the Chiefs do get whiter. I think they will. Pioli was with Bellichek during their dynasty. The o-lines were very white, they had Evans and Eckel. They also had Brushci, Vrabel and the underrated Ted Johnson.
 

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The Chiefs already have Cassel, Long, Brad Cottam, their TE, Mike Cox, thier FB, and I believe three whites on the O-Line. On defense, it is not so good, but they still have Mike Vrabel and John McGraw. They need to draft Pat Angerer or Joe Pawelek for an ILB position.
 

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Chiefs practice today saw Lance Long as the starting slot receiver, as he has been all week. Based on his performance, he should be permanent. Jon McGraw back at practice, but behind DaJuan Morgan on the first team D. From watching DaJuan (along with absolutely worthless Mike Brown) play D against the Jagulars, it's not good to see him out there. Tells me that McGraw isn't all the way back from the leg injury.
There is speculation that RG Mike Goff might land on IR, but at least Andy Alleman (not a sumo) is the backup and will be fine.
LB Justin Rogers is back on the roster and at practice. It would be nice if the Chiefs gave him a chance to play on gameday, he can't possibly be worse than the other 'backers that they've been starting. I think that if he could come off of the bench to spell the other guys, it might open some eyes.
 

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It's surprising that Lance Long is on a roster and actually starting while players like Hass and David Ball are rotting away.  It sure does help our cause though to have another white receiver in the league.
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
It's surprising that Lance Long is on a roster and actually starting while players like Hass and David Ball are rotting away. It sure does help our cause though to have another white receiver in the league.

I agree. I hope Lance takes full advantage of this rare opportunity!
 

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He already had a nice game last week.  Not bad for a guy playing his first game.  Colonel I think you mentioned that he has 4.38 speed.  He should be used more on deep routes if that's the case and not just the short passes like last week.
 

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Unfortunately, I don't have a direct line to Scott Pioli or I would have him sign Hass today to replace the "afflete with great potential" Mark Bradley, who hasn't yet found a pass that he can't drop.
 

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whiteathlete33 said:
He already had a nice game last week. Not bad for a guy playing his first game. Colonel I think you mentioned that he has 4.38 speed. He should be used more on deep routes if that's the case and not just the short passes like last week.
His very first pass route as a Chief was a deep "out and up" against the Chargers, against Antonio Cromartie. Lance had two steps on the afflete corner, but the pass was off the mark to the outside.
 

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Mark Bradley is just one of a number of overhyped black receivers in the league.  He played for a powerhouse in Oklahoma and was drafted in the second round.  He was expected to be a dominant receiver in the league but has yet to catch more than 30 balls in a season.  A number ofwhite receivers would do better like Todd Blythe, Luke Swan, Mike Hass, and David Ball.




I still don't understand the deal with Hass.  He was very good in college, played in a tough conference, and had decent combine numbers.  While his 40 time might be slightly slower than the NFL average for wide receivers he brings a number of positives to the table.  He has good size, runs excellent routes, and has great hands.  He wasn't drafted until the 6th round which reminds me of how Luke Staley was treated getting drafted so late.  Reggie Bush even put in good words for him to Saints management.  There are a number of black receivers in the league that are slower than Hass and are playing and having success.  So why not Hass?  The Cleveland Browns and the Rams could use him. Edited by: whiteathlete33
 

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from rotoworld:

Chiefs WR Lance Long is drawing comparisons to Wes Welker in Kansas City, notably from quarterback Matt Cassel who played with Welker in New England.

"He's a great slot receiver," Cassel said of Long. "He's got tremendous quickness, he gets in and out of his breaks well, he catches the ball, he's a tough guy." Clearly earning the trust of his quarterback as well as his head coach, Long is a savvy pickup this week in PPR leagues.

full article from kcchiefs.com:

Another quick learner has been WR Lance Long. After joining the Chiefs practice squad on September 16th, Long put in his work at practice before getting a call up to the "bigs"Â￾ a day before the San Diego game (10/25). Long, however, had the advantage of already knowing Haley's offensive playbook from his time with the Chiefs head coach in Arizona.

"It was a huge advantage,"Â￾ Long said. "I'd say about 80-85 percent of it I was already familiar with."Â￾

Just like Chambers and Wade, Long also impressed in his Chiefs debut. He had a pair of catches against the Chargers and came up just inches shy of what would have been the team's most impressive catch of the year on a diving play in the end zone. He ended up exiting that game early after getting a little loopy following a meeting with LB Tim Robbins on a crossing route over the middle. Long got another opportunity in Jacksonville last Sunday and ended up leading the team with eight receptions.

"Well there's a reason why he's on the field on Sunday,"Â￾ Cassel said of Long. "Obviously the coaches noticed something and noticed that he had a spark and he's definitely got a great skill-set and a great skill level. He came out Sunday, he prepares hard, he works hard, he's diligent about what he does, and he came out and he performed. Anytime he gets open and I'm able to get him the ball, that's a good thing."Â￾

Not a bad first impression made from a player who owns just three games of NFL experience (one with Arizona, two with Kansas City). Cassel was so impressed by Long last weekend, he just couldn't help but go on about the first-year pro who spent his entire rookie season on Arizona's practice squad.

"He's a great slot receiver,"Â￾ Cassel said. "He's got tremendous quickness, he gets in and out of his breaks well, he catches the ball, he's a tough guy â€" he's not afraid to lay in a block on a linebacker or a safety. He's a great player and he's been helping us, there's no doubt about that."Â￾

Cassel knows a bit about what a great slot receiver looks like. He did, after all, play with WR Wes Welker in New England. Welker was on the receiving end of 111 footballs last year for the Patriots â€" just one short of his career-high 112 in 2007 when working under a full season with QB Tom Brady.

"You know, he's got a similar mentality in that he's a bulldog,"Â￾ Cassel remarked with comparing Long's attributes with Welker's. "He just goes out there and he works hard. Like I said, he's a guy that you really do want to see in the slot in terms of his quickness and how he goes about his business. There are definitely some resemblances between Welker and Lance."Â￾

With eight catches in his first full game of duty out of the slot and Cassel drawing comparisons to his favorite target in New England, could we be seeing the beginning of Cassel's new favorite receiving target? It's obviously still way too early to tell.

One thing that isn't too early to tell, however, is Cassel's ability to connect with receivers despite short acclimation periods. There have been three such cases to study already in 2009.
 

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another update from rotoworld:

Chiefs beat writer Kent Babb suggests that Mark Bradley could be a healthy scratch in Week 10.

Bobby Wade was the odd man out in Week 9, but Bradley dropped two of his three targets and has fallen behind Lance Long and Chris Chambers on the depth chart. Bradley will not garner much interest in offseason free agency.
 

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Bradley is an unbelievable stiff. They kept him around because of his "burst" and "affletic potential", but you see those results. Matt Jones anybody??
 

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Bradley, Bobby Wade, Bobby Engram, all have fallen by the wayside in KC already this season. It's highly unlikely lumbering Chris Chambers will have a reinvigorated career despite his 2 TDs last week in his first game with the Chiefs. Gee, if only Matt Jones, Mike Hass and David Ball could join instant success Lance Long, Matt Cassell would be as good as he was last year with the Patriots.
 

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Mark Bradley, Bobby Wade & Bobby Engram (the last couple years) are examples of recycled black WRs who shouldn't be in the league. Bradley was injured THE MAJORITY OF HIS FIRST 3 YEARS with the Bears, yet was kept over Mike Hass based on "speed" and "upside". Bradley is a below average route runner with butterfingers. Wade runs a 4.66 40, so he's slower than Hass, doesn't have the size or hands of Hass- and is not a better route runner either. What a joke that Hass, Eric Peterman and Matt Jones won't ever be given a legit shot by this POS league.
 

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I don't think anyone's mentioned this yet -- LB Andy Studebaker got some significant playing time last game, recording 5 tackles, an assist and a pass defense.
 

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it's about time they gave Studebaker a chance! the guy is a beast, he had 33 reps at his pro day, while running 4.6!

full pro day numbers:

Josh Buchanan, of NFLDraftBible.com, reports Wheaton LB/DE Andy Studebaker worked out at Northwestern's Pro Day. Studebaker posted a 33 1/2-inch reach, a 36 1/2-inch vertical jump, a 10-foot-7 broad jump, a 1.59 and 1.61 10-yard dash, a 2.63 and 2.65 20-yard dash, a 4.60 and 4.61 40-yard dash, a 4.14-second 20-yard shuttle, a 6.81-second three-cone drill and a 11.59-second 60-yard shuttle. He measured in a 6-foot-3 1/8, 250 pounds with 10 1/8-inch hands. Edited by: backrow
 

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and now that Vrabel is down, looks like Andy will replace him.

Chiefs LB Andy Studebaker will make his first career NFL start on Sunday against the Steelers.

Studebaker will start at OLB in place of the injured Mike Vrabel (knee). The Chiefs signed him off the Eagles practice squad last November after the Eagles drafted him in the sixth round out of D-III Wheaton College in 2008.
Source: Kansas City Star
 

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No surprise here, really. Dwayne "PED Alligator Arms" Bowe will be back with the Chefs this weekend after his 4 week suspension, and will most likely, well, he'll start for sure, against the Browns. This from the KC Star:



Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe returned to practice Wednesday and worked with the first-team offense, picking up where he left off before a four-week suspension for violating the NFL's policy on performance-enhancing substances.


Bowe wouldn't answer reporters' questions after the workout, instead saying that he'd have something to say after Kansas City's home finale Sunday against Cleveland.


Coach Todd Haley said that Bowe, who reported to the team's offseason conditioning program last spring about 30 pounds over his target weight, maintained his fitness during his four weeks away from Chiefs headquarters. Haley said he spoke with Bowe before the suspension but the team couldn't be in contact with him during his punishment.


"Dwayne looked like he did a good job while he was away keeping himself in condition,"Â￾ Haley said. "Really would have liked to have seen where he would have been had he been here the last four weeks because he was making so much progress leading up to the suspension.


"It was really important that Dwayne worked real hard while he was away. That sometimes is hard to do when you're on your own and you're not able to practice football. But Dwayne was a breath of fresh air out there."Â￾
So, according to coach Haley, Bowe stayed away from eating boxes of Ding Dongs and Honey Buns while he was on suspension. Now I get to watch DBowe drop multiple easy passes this weekend while seeing the last home game of the year at Arrowhead. Yay.
 

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I almost forgot to post this normal, everyday Bowe pass-catching prowess:

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