2008 NFL Draft Scorecard

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(I've compiled a list of all the potential White draftees and rookie free agents by taking the average ranking from all of the major draft/scouting sources and pulling off anyone who comes in near, at or under nfldraftscout.com's listed number likely to make an nfl camp at a given position. Feel free to suggest additions if I've made any glaring omissions or subtractions if someone mistakenly turns out to be non-White. I'll try to keep this list updated as the draft and subsequent free agent signings come down.)

Draft Scorecard
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Quarterbacks
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Matt Ryan Boston College: Picked round 1(3) Atlanta
Brian Brohm Louisville: Picked round 2(56) Packers
Chad Henne Michigan: Picked round 2(57) Dolphins
Joe Flacco Delaware: Picked round 1(18) Ravens
John David Booty USC: Picked round 5(137) Vikings
Erik Ainge Tennessee: Picked round 5(162) Jets
Colt Brennan Hawaii: Picked round 6(186) Redskins
Kevin O'ConnellSan Diego State: Picked round 3(94) Patriots
Matt Flynn LSU: Picked round 7(209) Packers
Sam Keller Nebraska
Paul Smith Tulsa: Signed FA contract with Jaguars
Anthony Morelli Penn State: Signed FA contract with Cardinals
Alex Brink Washington State: Picked round 7(223) Texans
Kyle Wright Miami-Fl: Signed FA contract with Vikings
T.C. Ostrander Stanford: Signed FA contract with Saints
Ricky Santos New Hampshire: Signed FA contract with Chiefs
Blake Powers Indiana: Signed FA contract with Chiefs
Adam Tafralis San Jose State
Nick Hill Southern Illinois: Signed FA contract with Bears
Brandon Cox Auburn
Blake Mitchell South Carolina: Invited to Saints mini-camp
Mark Nicolet Hillsdale: Signed FA contract with Lions
Taylor Tharp Boise State: Signed FA contract with Panthers
Luke Drone Illinois State: Signed FA contract with Bills
Tyler Donovan Wisconsin: Signed with Edmonton Eskimos (CFL)
Brad Roach Catawba: Signed FA contract with Ravens
Kyle Spotts Kutztown
Caleb Hanie Colorado State: Signed FA contract with Bears
David Pevoto Army
Seth Adams Mississippi
Blake Barmore Trinity-Texas
Ben Mauk Cincinnati: Attempting to get another year of NCAA eligibility
Tommy Grady Utah
Todd Spitzer Western Carolina
Casey Hansen Norfolk State
Eric Sanders Northern Iowa
Mike Kokal Miami-O
Martin Hankins Memphis
Craig Hormann Columbia: Signed FA contract with Browns
Brian White Portland State: Signed FA contract with Oakland
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Halfbacks
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Danny WoodheadChadron State: Signed FA contract with Jets
Tyler Sherden Luther
Justin Beaver Wisconsin-Whitewater: Signed FA contract with Packers
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Fullbacks
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Peyton Hillis Arkansas: Picked round 7(227) Broncos
Owen Schmitt West Virginia: Picked round 5(163) Seahawks
Jacob Hester LSU: Picked round 3(69) by Chargers
Mike Cox Georgia Tech: Signed FA contract with Chiefs
Jed Collins Washington State: Signed FA contract with Eagles
Steven Korte LSU
Joe Surratt Florida State
Doug Jones Cincinnati: Signed FA contract with Rams
Andy Crooks Wisconsin: Not persuing career in Football
Mike Viti Army: Signed FA contract with Bills
Tom Busch Iowa: Invited to Vikings mini camp
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Wide Receiver
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Jordy Nelson Kansas State: Picked round 2(36) Packers
Todd Blythe Iowa State: Signed FA contract with Saints
Danny AmendolaTexas Tech: Signed FA contract with Cowboys
Evan Moore Stanford (TE)
Luke Swan Wisconsin: Signed FA contract with Chiefs
Samuel Giguere Sherbrooke: Signed FA contract with Colts
Chad Hall Air Force
Joe Cowan UCLA
Wes Doyle San Diego
Weston Dressler North Dakota
Ryan Bagley Montana
Ashton GronewoldMissouri-Rolla: Invited to Bears mini camp
Brett Swain San Diego State: Picked rd 7(217) Packers
Nate Forse Indiana-Pennsylvania
Tommy Ellingworth Augustana
Brian Hernandez Utah
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Tight End
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John Carlson Notre Dame: Picked round 2(38) by Seattle
Brad Cottam Tennessee: Picked round 3(76) by Chiefs
Craig Stevens California-Berkeley: Picked round 3(85) by Titans
Jacob Tamme Kentucky: Picked round 4(127) Colts
Gary Barnidge Louisville: Picked round 5(141) Panthers
Joe Jon Finley Oklahoma: Signed FA contract with 49ers
Joey Haynos Maryland: Signed FA contract with Packers
Tom Santi Virginia: Picked round 6(196) Colts
Adam Bishop Nevada-Reno
Mike Peterson NW Missouri State: Signed FA contract with Packers
Derek Fine Kansas: Picked round 4(132) Bills
J.B. Phillips Nebraska
Tyson Devree Colorado: Invited to Patriots mini camp
Drew Atchison William &amp; Mary: Signed FA contract with Steelers
Cole Bennett Auburn: Signed FA contract with Texans
Matthew SherryVillanova: Picked round 6(207) Bengals
Marcus Stone NC State (FB)
Jonathan Stupar Virginia: Signed FA contract with Patriots
Tate Casey Florida: Granted another year of NCAA eligibility
Wade BetschartWyoming: Signed FA contract with Chargers
Brent Miller Arizona State
Robert Lane Mississippi (FB)
Ben Bailey NW State Louisiana
Chris Wagner South Dakota State: signed FA contract with Raiders
Kris Kasparek Akron: Signed FA contract with Miami
Nick Cleaver New Mexico State (FB)
Ben Barkema Iowa State: Signed FA contract with Browns
Matthew MulliganMaine: Signed FA contract with Miami
Ryan Putnam Boise State (FB)
Coleman WatsonGeorgia
Keith Zinger LSU: Picked rd7(232) Falcons
Blake Martin Sam Houston State
Jake Sears UTEP: Asked to tryout with the Giants
Andy Boyd South Carolina
Matt Traverso Stanford
Ken Bohnet Eastern Michigan
Scott Kuhn Louisville: Signed FA contract with Ravens
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Offensive Tackles
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Jake Long Michigan: Picked Rd 1(1) by Miami
Sam Baker USC: Picked Rd 1(21) by Atlanta
John Greco Toledo: Picked Rd 3(65) by Rams
Kirk Barton Ohio State: Picked Rd 7(247) Bears
Chad Rhinehart Northern Iowa: Picked Rd 3(96) by Redskins
Breno GiacominiLouisville: Picked Rd 5(150) Packers
Mike Gibson California-Berkeley: Picked Rd 6(184) Eagles
Corey Clark Texas A&amp;M: Picked Rd 7(234) Chargers
Tyler Polumbus Colorado
Geoff Schwartz Oregon: Picked Rd 7(241) Panthers
Devin Clark New Mexico: Signed FA contract with Redskins
David Hale Weber State: Picked 4(133) Ravens
Brian Stamper Vanderbilt (OG)
Joe Reitz Western Michigan
Digger Bujnoch Cincinnati: Signed FA contract with Giants
Sean Sester Purdue
Josh Sitton UCF: Picked round 4(135) Packers
Ben Hochstein Nebraska-Omaha (OG)
Phil Trautwein Florida
Tim Silver Richmond
Nate Garner Arkansas: Picked round 7(211) Jets
Mike Byrne Delaware
Bobby Byrd Washington State (OG)
Dylan Thiry Northwestern
Jeff Akeroyd Houston
Tyler Luellen Missouri
Mitch Erickson South Dakota State: Signed FA contract with Broncos
Matt Austin Massachusetts
Sean Dumford Eastern Kentucky (OG)
David Shelby Ohio
Matt Butler East Carolina
Cody Balogh Montana
Dan Gore Boise State (OG)
Kurt Kutscher Henderson State
Brock Pasteur Stephen F Austin
Eddie Pinigis Liberty
Kyle Cunningham Louisiana-Monroe
Daren HeerspinkPortland State
Casey Tyler Portland State
Chris Capps Alabama
Adam Decock Montana State
Charlie Norden Miami-O
Dustin Dickinson Houston: Signed FA contract with Seahawks
Zach Krula Arizona State
Nate Safe North Dakota State
Pete Clifford Michigan State
Charlie Emerson Indiana
Peter Graniello Arizona
Andrew Brecher Harvard
Jesse Newman Louisiana-Lafayette
Rocky Hanni Eastern Washington
Joe Marafine Kent State
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Offensive Guards
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Roy Schuening Oregon State: Picked round 5(157) Rams
Mike McGlynn Pittsburgh: Drafted round 4(109) Eagles
Drew Radovich USC: Signed FA contract with Vikings
Andrew CrummeyMaryland (C)
Shawn Murphy Utah State: Drafted round 4(110) Dolphins
Adam Kraus Michigan (C)
Kerry Brown Appalachian State: Signed FA contract with Redskins
Mike Fladell Rutgers
Kirk Elder Texas A&amp;M
Jordan Grimes Purdue
Matty Linder TCU
Will Arnold LSU
Jonathan Luigs Arkansas
Michael Galassi Walsh
Brandyn DombrowskiSan Diego State
Tony Brinkhaus Minnesota (C)
Jason Boone Utah (OT)
Martin O'Donnell Illinois
Josh Coffman East Carolina (OT)
David OvermeyerFlorida State (OT)
Tad Miller Boise State
Eric Tunney Central Michigan
Mike Gyetvai Michigan State
Nathan McManusGeorgia Tech
Kyle Smith UCF
Mike Butterworth Slippery Rock (OT)
David Koenig Oklahoma State
Justin Britt Alabama
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Centers
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Mike Pollak Arizona State: Picked round 2(59) Colts
Steve Justice Wake Forest: Picked round 6(201) Colts
John Sullivan Notre Dame: Picked round 6(187) Vikings
Cody Wallace Texas A&amp;M: Picked round 4(107) 49ers
Kory LichtensteigerBowling Green: Picked round 4(108) Broncos
Jamey Richard Buffalo: Picked round 7(236) Colts
Matt Spanos USC (OT,OG)
Doug Legursky Marshall: Signed FA contract with Steelers
John Rochford Miami-Fl
Matt Roan Southern Utah (OT)
Adam Spieker Missouri
Drew Miller Florida (OG)
Kyle DeVan Oregon State
Jordy Lipsey Virginia
John Masters Michigan State
Ryan Wendell Fresno State (OG)
Derrick Morse Miami-Fl (OG)
Riley Salinger Wagner
Kevin Tuminello Georgia Tech
Tim Mattran Stanford: Signed FA contract with Vikings
Tommy CrowleyWest Texas A&amp;M (OG)
Jeff Cavender Boise State (OG)
Brett Byford Nebraska
John Frady Florida State
Dallas Griffin Texas
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Defensive Ends
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Chris Long Virginia: Picked Round 1(2) Rams
Chris Harrington Texas A&amp;M: Picked Round 6(185) Cardinals
Chase Ortiz TCU: Signed FA contract with Browns
Bryan Mattison Iowa: Signed FA contract with Jets
Adamm Oliver Georgia Tech
Brian Johnston Gardner-Webb: Picked Round 7(210) Chiefs
Trevor Scott Buffalo: Picked Round 6(169) Raiders
Greyson GunheimWashington
Matt Kroul Iowa: Has another year of college eligibility
Eric Bakhtiari San Diego
Nick Larkin Boston College
Blake Smith Colorado State
Jeff Van Orsow Oregon State
Matt Robinson Wake Forest
Nick SchlekewayBoise State
Jesse Nading Colorado State: Signed FA contract with Houston
Jacob Owens Fairmont State
Dallas Flynn NW Missouri State
Craig Mester Miami-O
Kyle Clement Northwood
James Amos California-Davis
Brandt HollanderYale
Blair Boynton Northern Arizona
Chris McKillop Pittsburgh
Pat Nolan Colgate
Kenwin CummingsWingate
Drew Hoffman Northern Arizona
Bryce BraaksmaIowa State
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Defensive Tackles
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Nick Hayden Wisconsin: Picked round 6(181) Panthers
Derek Lokey Texas: Signed FA contract with Chiefs
Kurt Hout Ferris State (DE)
Josh Thompson Auburn: Signed FA contract with Rams
Chris Norwell Illinois: Signed FA contract with Patriots
Theo Horrocks Vanderbilt: Signed FA contract with Jaguars
Brian Schaefering Lindenwood: Signed FA contract with Browns
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Outside Linebackers
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Dan Connor Penn State: Picked round 3(74) by Panthers
Jordan Dizon Colorado: Picked round 2(45) by Lions
David Vobora Idaho: Picked round 7(252) by Rams
Mike Humpal Iowa: Picked round 6(188) Steelers
Andy StudebakerWheaton: Picked round 6(203) Eagles
Bo Ruud Nebraska: Picked round 6(197) Patriots
Kroy Biermann Montana: Picked round 5(154) Atlanta
Kelly Poppinga BYU: Signed FA contract with Dolphins
Gian Villante Hofstra (ILB)
Christian Serena Western New Mexico
Shane Simmons Western Washington : Signed FA contract with Raiders
Tyler Clutts Fresno State (DE)
Eric Maranda Laval
Scott Derry Texas
Brandon RenkartRutgers
Joey LaRocque Oregon State: Picked Rd 7(243) Bears
Lance Brandenburgh Nebraska
Nathan Peterson Oklahoma State
Brian Bradford Towson (ILB)
Luke Sanders LSU: Signed FA contract with Saints
Patrick Bailey Duke: Signed FA contract with Steelers
Ryan Karl Tennessee
Nick Moore Baylor: Signed FA contract with Browns
Chris ChamberlainTulsa: Picked Round 7(228) Rams
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Inside Linebackers
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Spencer Larsen Arizona: Picked round 6(183) Denver
Ben Moffitt South Florida: Signed FA contract with Texans
J Leman Illinois: Signed FA contract with Vikings
Corey McKeonNebraska: Invited to try out with Buccs
Christian Taylor UCLA
Marc Magro West Virginia: Signed FA contract with Rams
Mike KlinkenborgIowa
Drew Fowler Air Force
Ryan Henegan Connecticut
Weston Dacus Arkansas
Cody Stutts Abilene Christian
Adam Kadela Northwestern: Invited to try out with Buccs
Trent Allen Houston
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Cornerbacks
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Adam Shada Iowa (FS)
Nick Sanchez Stanford
Carson Bird Air Force
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Strong Safeties
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Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame: Picked round 3(86) by Ravens
Craig Steltz LSU: Picked round 4(120) Bears
Jamie Silva Boston College
Caleb CampbellArmy: Picked round 7(218) Lions
Marcus Watts Kansas State: Invited to try out with Browns
Steve Tate Utah: Signed FA contract with Buccs
Marty Tadman Boise State
Dylan Barker Saskatchewan
Rocky SchwartzHouston: Signed FA contract with Saints
John Mackey Akron
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Free Safeties
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Corey Lynch Appalachian State: Picked round 6(177) Bengals
Tony LeZotte James Madison (SS)
Quinn Gooch BYU
Gregor Smith Eastern Washington
Todd Koenig Ohio
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Did not include specialists because 95%+ are White (LS, K &amp; P)
Durant Brooks Oklahoma State P: Picked round 6(168) Redskins
Taylor Melhoff Wisconsin K: Picked round 6(178) Saints
Tyler Schmitt San Diego State LS: Picked round 6(189) Seattle
Brandon Coutu Georgia K: Picked round 7(235) SeattleEdited by: reclaimsocal
 

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You missed one on via Nfldraftscout.com; Nate Forse has a shot at making a camp according his Nfldraftscout.com rank. He's ranked at 125. Tommy Ellingworth has also been ranked in the top 100, I think, by Pro Football Weekly since he ran a 4.38 at his Pro Day. Brian Hernandez from Utah is also a good player, but I don't think he's getting much interest from teams.
 

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Very nice work Reclaim. I figured I would go through a list and make my projections to where each of these players will probably be drafted. This is not indicative of how I feel about all these players but where I think they will actually go. I think I could make a good 53 man roster out of all the talent available in the draft. Judging by these numbers 78 out of 252 players draftedwill be white. So about 30% which seems to be the standard. OT, OG are very hard to project just because its difficult to see how different teams evaluate players. Im no expert but do follow the draft process closely and think I have a pretty good idea of where these players will end up.

QB
RD

Matt Ryan BostonCollege&nbsp ;;&nbs p;1

Brian BrohmLouisville&nb sp; &n bsp; 2

Chad HenneMichigan&nbsp ; &nbs p; &nbs p; 2

Joe FlaccoDelaware&nbs p; &nbs p; &nbs p; 2

John David BootyUSC&nbs p; &nb sp; 4

Erik AingeTennessee&nbs p; &nb sp; &nb sp;4

Colt BrennanHawaii&nbsp ;&nbsp ; 5

Kevin O'Connell San Diego State 6

Paul SmithTulsa&n bsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;7 ;

Alex Brink WashingtonSt &nbs p;7

RB/FB
Jacob HesterLSU&nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp;3

Peyton HillisArkansas&nbs p; &nbs p; 4

Owen SchmittWVU&n bsp; &n bsp; 5&nbsp ;;


Danny Woodhead ChadronSt.&n bsp; &nb sp;7

JustinBeaver 7

WR
Jordy Nelson KansasSt.&nb sp; &nb sp;2

Todd Blythe IowaSt.&nbsp ; &nb sp; 5

Danny Amendola TexasTech&nb sp; &n bsp;6

Luke SwanWisconsin&nbsp ; &nb sp; &nb sp; 6

TE
Brad CottamTenn&n bsp; &n bsp; &n bsp;3

John CarlsonND&nb sp; &nbs p; &nbs p;3

Jacon TammeUK&nbsp ; &nbs p; &nbs p;4

Craig StevensCAL&n bsp; &nb sp; &nb sp; 4

Gary BarnridgeLouisville&nbsp ; &n bsp;5

Derek FineKansas&n bsp;&n bsp;6


Joey HaynosMaryland&nbs p; &nbs p; &nbs p;6

OT
Jake LongMichigan &nbs p; &nbs p; 1

SamBakerUSC& nbsp;&nbs p; &nbs p; 2

John GrecoToledo& nbsp;& nbsp; 3 ;&nbsp ;;&nbs p;;&nb sp;;&n bsp;;


Kirk Barton OhioState&nb sp; & nbsp;3

Chad Rhinehart NorthernIowa &n bsp;5 & nbsp;

Breno GiacominiLouisville&nbsp ; &n bsp;6

Mike GibsonCalifornia-Berkeley&nbsp ;;7


Geoff SchwartzOregon 7

OG
Roy Schuening OregonState& nbsp; & nbsp;2

Mike McGlynnPittsburgh& nbsp;& nbsp;3 ;&nbsp ;;

Drew RadovichUSC& nbsp; & nbsp;4

Adam KrausMichigan&nbsp ; &nbs p; &nbs p; 5

Matt SpanosUSC&nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp;5

Kerry Brown AppSt& nbsp; &nbs p;&nbs p;6

Jordan GrimesPurdue 6

C
Mike Pollak ArizonaSt&nb sp; &nbs p;1

Steve Justice WakeForest 4

Kory LichtensteigerBGSU &n bsp;4

John SullivanND&n bsp; &nbs p; &nbs p;5

Cody Wallace TexasA&M&nbs p; &nb sp;7

Doug LegurskyMarshall&n bsp; &nbs p; 7

DE
Chris LongUVA&nbsp ;;&nbs p;; 1

Brian Johnston GardnerWebb& nbsp; &n bsp; 3

Trevor ScottBuffalo ;&nbsp ;;4


Chris Harrington TexasA&M&nbs p; &nb sp;5

Greyson GunheimWashington& nbsp; &n bsp;6

Bryan MattisonIowa &n bsp; &n bsp;7

Adamm Oliver GATech &n bsp; 7

DT

Nick HaydenWisconsin&nb sp; &nb sp; 4

Derek LokeyTexas&n bsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; 5

Chris NorwellIllinois&nb sp; &nbs p; 6


OLB
Dan Connor PSU &nb sp; &nb sp;&nb sp;1

Jordan DizonColorado&nbsp ; &nbs p; &nbs p; 4

David VoboraIdaho& nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;4

Mike HumpalIowa&n bsp; &n bsp; &n bsp;5

Bo RuudNebraska &nbs p; &nbs p;7

Kelly PoppingaBYU& nbsp; &nb sp; &nb sp;7

Kroy BiermanMontana&nbs p;;&nb sp;;7


ILB
Ben MoffitUSF&nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp; 4

Spencer LarsenArizona&nbsp ;;&nbs p;; 4

J LemanIllinois&nbsp ; &nbs p; 5

Marc MagroWVU&nbs p; &nb sp; &nb sp; 6

Cory McKeonNebraska&nbs p; &nbs p; &nbs p;7

Mike KlinkenborgIowa&nb sp; &n bsp; &n bsp; 7

DB
Tom ZbikowskiND& nbsp; &nbs p; &nbs p;3

Craig SteltzLSU&nb sp; &nb sp; &nb sp;4

Jamie SilvaBC&nbsp ; &nbs p; &nbs p; 5

Corey Lynch AppSt& nbsp; &nbs p; 5

Caleb CampbellArmy &n bsp; &n bsp;6

Rocky SchwartzHouston&nb sp;;&n bsp;; 6

Marty Tadman BoiseSt&nbsp ; &nbs p;&nbs p;7

Tony LeZotteJMU&n bsp; &nb sp; &nb sp;7

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Sorry about all those weird characters. Im not sure how to get rid of them. Im bored so I figured I would make my all prospect team.

QB
Brian Brohm

RB
Jacob Hester

3DRB/RET Specialist
Danny Woodhead

FB
Owen Schmitt

WR
Jordy Nelson
Todd Blythe
Luke Swan (slot)

TE
Jacob Tamme
Craig Stevens

LT
Sam Baker

RT
Jake Long

LG
Roy Schuenning

RG
Mike Mcglynn

C
Mike Pollak

RE
Chris Long

LE
Trevor Scott

DT
Nick Hayden

NT
Derek Lokey

LOLB
Dan Connor

MLB
Ben Moffit

ROLB
David Vobora

LCB
Adam Shada

SS
Tom Zbikowski

FS
Craig Steltz

RCB
Rocky Schwartz
 
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None of the White DT's in this years draft class are expected to go higher then maybe mid 3rd (Hayden). Nick Hayden is a high motor guy who may project out to a 3-4 End position. He could beconsidered a poor man's Chris Hovan.


Lokey was solid at Texas, but much like Robison last year was overshadowded a bit by an underachieving Black counterpart.


Hout is probably a 3-4 End more then a pure DT. Norwell had good production as a Senior but never got the offseason push he needed to move up the board.


Defensive Tackle has probably become the 3rd Caste position in my opinion behind Cornerback and Tailback. All of the top White DT talent is shifted to the O-Line due to a percieved lack of quickness, that in actuality is probably one of the most backwards stereotypes held, as many of the Blacks left at the DT slot are simply slow fat slugs. This draft will not likely help the cause much, but a guy like Hayden certainly has the talent to become an elite player.
 

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and Chris Long will most likely be the Ram.

btw what chances of NFL does Dylan Barker have? 6'4. 200 lbs, 4.5 40 and 38 inches vertical...
 
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Probably depends on how badly he wants it. I think he gets a camp invite unless he decides its an easier road to go to the CFL. Once in camp, who knows. It depends on how much of a shot he is actually given. Admittedly, I haven't really seen the kid play, so I'm just going on what I've read on the various sites.
 

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reclaimsocal said:
None of the White DT's in this years draft class are expected to go higher then maybe mid 3rd (Hayden). Nick Hayden is a high motor guy who may project out to a 3-4 End position. He could be considered a poor man's Chris Hovan.


Lokey was solid at Texas, but much like Robison last year was overshadowded a bit by an underachieving Black counterpart.


Hout is probably a 3-4 End more then a pure DT. Norwell had good production as a Senior but never got the offseason push he needed to move up the board.


Defensive Tackle has probably become the 3rd Caste position in my opinion behind Cornerback and Tailback. All of the top White DT talent is shifted to the O-Line due to a percieved lack of quickness, that in actuality is probably one of the most backwards stereotypes held, as many of the Blacks left at the DT slot are simply slow fat slugs. This draft will not likely help the cause much, but a guy like Hayden certainly has the talent to become an elite player.
The lack of white DT's is puzzling to me. At one time when the 3-4 defense was the rage of the NFL, virtually all of the nose tackles/nose guards were white. I also recall some huge white tackles in the early 80's Louie Kelcher was the "Fridge" before the "Fridge". Picture a Hell's Angel with a Chargers patch.....
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Yeah, it really makes no sense considering that white DEs are known for their brute strength and ability against the run (ie. Kampman, Allen, J. Smith, Kerney)

I believe the "top DT tackler" in the AFC was white Kelly Gragg from the Ravens despite the fact that there are virtually no white DTs that play.

You would think the fact that whites notoriously win the worlds strongest man (we also have the squat and bench records) and the fact that whites are known for their burst, motor and heady play more so than speed would make DT the least caste position other than QB and OL. It just makes no sense. The caste system is what it is it doesn't make sense in how it discriminates.
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Gi-15 said:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8060536/Dolphins-to-make- Jake-Long-draft's-top-pick

Jake Long is the pick!


I'm glad Jake is the first pick of the draft, but he's now the highest paid o-lineman in the NFL before ever playing a down -- $30 million guaranteed. The NFL way overpays its draft picks. One of the reasons so many highly drafted black picks become busts is that, not being "high motor" guys to begin with, once they get their bonus money they losewhatevermotivation they had to become great at the pro level. But that's the NFL's problem, one of many that will eventually expose the Caste System for the long-standing sick joke that it is.
 

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One thing I hate about the draft (at least the first round) is that room where they have all of the projected top picks sitting. Eery year it seems like one guy (usually white) gets left sitting in there long after he should have been picked. This happened to Big Ben when he was drafted. It happened to Matt Leinart as well.

Also, let's see who wins the Mike Hass award for being the white player who gets screwed over the most this year.

I think Zib can have a good career.
 

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Jay Glazer and other sources are saying that Chris Long is definitely gonna be the pick at #2 for STL. How bout that? The Long's going 1 and 2. Good start.
 

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The Mike Mamula thread in the Eagles forum discusses in detail how the media routinely portrays whites as dominating the list of NFL draft busts when the vast majority of busts are black: [url]http://www.castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7225&a mp;PN=1[/url]


Sports Illustrated this week decided to mark the 10th anniversary of the famous 1998 draft (Peyton Manning vs. Ryan Leaf) by having a "re-do" of the first round, based on how the players in that draft eventually panned out in the NFL. Surprise, surprise (to everyone but us) -- SI's revisionist first round has 13 white players in it -- Peyton Manning (still first overall of course), Matt Hasselbeck (3rd overall), Alan Faneca (5th), Olin Kreutz (6th), Matt Birk (11th), Jeff Saturday (14th, originally undrafted), Keith Brooking (17th), Grant Wistrom (20th), Brian Griese (21st), Benji Olsen (25th), Jeremy Newberry (26th), Steve McKinney (28th), Jason Fabini (29th).


Only 7 white players were taken in the first round in '98. Gee, what would happen if the NFL would draft and develop white players at positions other than QB and the offensive line and the occasional defensive player. Why the league would become white dominated -- which is exactly why this year's draft, like every other one for the past 25 years, will be black dominated.
 

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Three for three is nice, but now begins what may be a drought of Biblical proportions.
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Let's hope at least a few teams have learned the right lessons ala the Colts and Patriotsbut it won't surprise me if none have.
 

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With the Patriots trading down and obtaining more picks later in the draft, I could see them drafting Jacob Hester tomorrow. Just speculation on my part, but he's a back who draws comparisons to the aging Kevin Faulk.
 

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Stonewall said:
With the Patriots trading down and obtaining more picks later in the draft, I could see them drafting Jacob Hester tomorrow. Just speculation on my part, but he's a back who draws comparisons to the aging Kevin Faulk.

yes maybe, but then he'd take either Eckel's or Evans' roster spot.
 

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Yes Don, we are in the midst of a drought. Perhaps, Dan Connor will be selected prior to the 20th pick. Plus, it looks like the Ravens will go with Flacco at #26.
 

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With LB Rivers and the rediculous reach of the Pats taking OLB Jerod Mayo at #10...Connor should be the next LB taken, we'll see.
 

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Poacher said:
One thing I hate about the draft (at least the first round) is that room where they have all of the projected top picks sitting. Eery year it seems like one guy (usually white) gets left sitting in there long after he should have been picked. This happened to Big Ben when he was drafted. It happened to Matt Leinart as well.

Also, let's see who wins the Mike Hass award for being the white player who gets screwed over the most this year.

I think Zib can have a good career.
I hear ya! Also, all those mammys wiff there ridiculous hats & no black fathers ever seem to make it. Hmmmm, they must be at work.
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too many black linemen... i don't like this trend. also, with so many WRs seemingly falling out of round 1, i wonder if Jordey gets picked today?

PS let me just add: Matt Millen is f**king useless... they needed a RB and he picks some overrated sumo... Gosder Cherilious? WTF! Edited by: backrow
 
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The Patriots pick has really been the only big disappointment so far. That should have been Dan Connor's spot in a colorblind world. Otherwise, things are going about as expected. I think another 5 yard apes or so and then we get into the range where a White may be selected.
 
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