NFL playoffs wildcard week

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  1. jaxvid

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    In the radio broadcast of the Broncos game the announcers made it a point to say that the loss of Decker was huge for Denver as he and Tebow had hooked up so often this year. They may not have done it a lot lately but that is typical. Even Calvin Johnson and Matt Stafford went a few games without many targets. Sometimes that is what the defense gives you.

    They also mentioned that Tebow and Decker had worked out together last year and during the lockout which helped build their chemistry.

    We know that Tebow is in many ways the epitome of a modern day Christian, which as we have documented here usually means someone that is totally oblivious to the anti-white agenda of the Cultural Marxists. There is no surprise there.

    But yeah Pats over Broncos all the way which should be easily done.
     
  2. Colonel_Reb

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    jaxvid, I heard almost the same thing said about Decker today on a very popular sports show on the radio in Atlanta. He was referred to as "Tebow's go to receiver." The host who said it was former UGA QB Buck Belue.
     
  3. GiovaniMarcon

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    My hope for next week's games is that Tim Tebow wins yet the Broncos somehow lose.

    As in, maybe he could get a rushing TD or two, throw for a couple more, and basically make the Denver offense look good. Then the Denver defense could get Tom Brady'ed.

    After a scintillating 54 to 28 loss, reporters confront Tebow in the press conference, implying that it was his fault for the defeat. Tebow then goes on a rant about how the NFL sucks and is racist, and retires to become a priest, to howls of disdain from people in the press who will then call him and his entire family a flock of Nazis.

    The NFL is no place for such a good Christian man. He can best do God's work someplace else.

    Twenty years from now, men in suits around water coolers will wonder "hey, whatever happened to that NFL Tim Tebow guy?"

    "Tim Tebow? Who's he?"

    "He's the guy who told the NFL to go f**k itself because it was racist against White people. Then a whole bunch of other White players started complaining, too. Now colleges and pro teams are drafting more White guys so they won't look so racist."

    "Are the White guys any good, though?"

    "Does the Pope live in Rome?"

    "You know he does. Pope Tim Tebow I."
     
  4. Westside

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    Funny stuff Giovani! Lol
     
  5. Truthteller

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    Perhaps this is true Don, but for Decker it could really harm his career if Timmy's agenda is to be extra friendly with his black teammates. I never tried to imply Tebow was "anti-white", what I do see is he goes out of way to jive-talk with and favor his black teammates on the field. Perhaps it's some sort of twisted variation of the Stockholm Syndrome?

    Just for the record, once Mary returned from injuries against the Jets, Decker had 10 catches for 160 yards and 1 TD in seven games. He had 3 catches for 65 yards and a TD @ the Chargers in that span. So, take that game out, it's 7 catches for 95 yards and no scores in six full starts. If that's not being "phased out" in close to half a season, what the heck is?...Meanwhile, Mary had 25 receptions for 448 yards and 4 TD's in those same 7 games. You can also add a playoff game (Pitt), where the injured Decker had zero catches, while Mary had 4 receptions for 204 yards and a TD.

    In the first 9 games, by the way, with Orton starting and Sting Tebow not having his beloved Mary to slobber all over, Decker had 34 catches for 462 yards and 7 TD's. At that pace, he would've had 60-65 receptions, 11 to 13 TD's and he might've even inched close to 1,000 yards in only his sophomore season.

    Imagine if Rodgers totally ignored Jordy like this and only threw to Jennings and Driver back in 2009? Would Jordy have ever had the chance to start or would he be out the league already and considered a "2nd round bust"? Imagine if Brady totally ignored Welker when he arrived and only went to Moss and Ben Watson? Would guys like Danny Amendola and several other smaller white WR's even be in the NFL today? Were would we be, back to the early 1990's when there were like 6 or 7 white receivers (perhaps 1 starter?) allowed to even get backup type reps on offense in the entire league?
     
  6. Don Wassall

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    That attitude pretty well describes most White Americans today. I watched Tebow's press conference yesterday and he was very complimentary toward Decker and Kuiper (the two injured White starters on offense). I don't think he deliberately ignored Decker so much as the game plans were changed by the offensive coordinator (or Fox or Elway or some combination thereof) to make Thomas a more prominent part of the offense, especially as the deep threat in spite of Decker's success in that role. I noticed that Decker was running more short and medium routes, and medium throws are Tebow's biggest weakness so far. I also think he needs to improve in reading his progressions, but he showed against the Steelers that given time he is very capable of doing so.

    I'll wait to see what happens next season with the Denver offense before passing judgment on Decker's future with the Broncos. Despite what happened the last part of the season, Eric conclusively showed in this, just his second season and first healthy one, that he has big-time talent, and he wouldn't have gotten that opportunity on many teams. On most he would still be in the early stages of a lengthy racial apprenticeship.
     
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  7. sport historian

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    In case you haven't noticed, Tebow isn't the drop back passer Rodgers and Brady are.
     
  8. wile

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    It does seem some of those evangelical sects have made it a religous rite to adopt non-white kids. Was being lectured at at a conservative site by such a couple, but I never ever take the holier than thou attitude from anyone of any stripe, nor would I take any of that nonsense from Tebow.
     
  9. foobar75

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    I'm puzzled by some of the anti-Tebow sentiments that I'm seeing here. We have a White, Christian, heterosexual man, a genuinely nice guy who has taken the sports world and the country by storm, and we are critical because he might be too nice to blacks? I think this sort of nitpicking is very unproductive. It's not as though Tebow is some thuggish wigger who constantly panders to blacks and minorities for brownie points. Has anyone seen pictures of his "Nazi" family? Rumored girlfriend? All those sick kids he visits before/after games? I for one am glad that we have this White man destroying stereotypes and having success despite all the odds and impediments placed in front of him. If you are expecting Tebow (or Jordy, Gronk, Welker, et al) to emerge as some sort of caste hero and White civil rights champion, then you'll be very disappointed. These are not realistic expectations. Let's enjoy the great success that these world class athletes are having in a league designed to discriminate against them every step of the way.
     
  10. Truthteller

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    Foobar, this isn't personal against Tim (he seems like an awesome person) and no one is expecting him to be a "caste-hero". What I'm simply pointing out is I did not like the way Decker fell off the map in the NFL after Tebow got Mary back from an injury. Again, prior to the Tebow-Mary magic, Eric was having quite a season. But, last 8 games (including Pitt) Decker had 10 catches for 160 yards. That's about 1.3 receptions and 20 yards per game over half a season for a "entrenched starter"....We'll see how this plays out going foward, but for now I can only say I will root hard against Denver. If they get shut out with Decker out, who cares, as long as the Grambling Broncos lose.

    As far as him breaking sterotypes, there is no shortage of white QB's in the NFL. I believe the reason why Tony Dungy types are outwardly rooting for him, is they hope he succeeds and it opens the door for many more 'athletic QB's'....You know, guys like Joe Webb, Brad Smith, Seneca Wallace, Shaun King, Joe Hamilton, Tony Dungy (circa 1976), ect.


    Yes Sports Historian, I have noticed. But why does that mean Decker falls off the map, while a couple of the other receivers "sky-rocket" in terms of production? Shouldn't all of them see a step drop in their stats, like all of the Colts receivers (white and black) did this season without Peyton?
     
  11. Kaptain

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    I have to side with foobar opinion on this one. Decker fell off the map because after the first Kanas City game he was recognized as the only deep threat and Tebow's only real weapon. That left Thomas more than wide open on many occasions. Decker also has had a case of the rookie dropsies as of late. I think Decker is the most talented Denver receiver in Denver but combine dropping passes with a Pop Warner play book and you got a stretch of low production. No big deal. Decker will be better than ever next year.

    Tebow absolutely breaks stereotypes. He is this year's caste buster. The "New Breed" of quarterback that the media and the NFL has been pushing for about 2 decades was supposed to be big, fast, and unequivocally black as the ace of spades. As meatloaf said, two out of three ain't bad. This now opens the door that has really been closed since Fran Tarkenton or maybe Steve Young. Now a Matt Jones, Eric Crouch, Julian Edelman type etc. may be allowed to stay at the quarterback spot in the NFL. It's long overdue. Whites running the ball effectively from the quarterback spot may open even more doors for white rbs. After watching Tebow easily out run and bowl over affeletes how can any other conclusion be derived?

    Further, from a caste perspective I really think Tebow winning this weekend does more for us than the Patriots winning. Both teams have a number one white receiver. One team has a white rb who, though spectacular, runs the ball very few times. The other teams has a white quarterback who runs the ball a lot every single game. I'll take rooting for Tebow over rooting for the very talented Danny Woodhead to be treated like a scrub back spelling a completely unproven rookie and a washed-up veteran. That Woodhead scenario this year disgusts me almost more than anything this year. I'll be rooting for the Denver Tebows.
     
  12. jaxvid

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    Unfortunately the Denver Tebows are just that, Tebow only. Decker is out with an injury. The Patriots will throw passes and TD's to Gronkowsky, Welker, Woodhead, maybe Edelman, and Woodhead will run the ball once in a while. Edelman will play some DB. Big difference from an occasional, very occasional Tebow completion or short gain. But it depends on what you like. I liked Matt Stafford throwing for 500 yards to his coal black receiving corps (except for Scheffler and Heller at TE). There isn't much to choose from in the caste NFL.
     
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    I have to disagree with the Kaptain on this. If Denver's defense was not 100% zulu, even just two White starters, say 2 linebackers or safeties or combnation of the 2, then I might be on board in rooting for the Broncos.

    With the PATS we have multiple Whites and Whites Stars on the offense. On their defense we have I believe 2 White starters and a couple of backups including Edelmen getting major minutes with Edelman playing cornerback, the ulimate caste busting position.

    No, I hope Tebow shines, but like in their last game, get crushed, something alone the lines of 45 to 23, Patriots, Go Patriots!
     
  14. Thrashen

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    I really admire Tebow, for all the reasons you mentioned, and many more. I’ve given him nothing but high praise this entire season, but I’ll admit I’m growing a little tired of his self-abhorring post-game remarks. Statements like: “My teammates make me look so much better than I actually am” and “I was just trying to run down the field after him as fast as I could to celebrate, but how could I possibly catch D.T., you know?” Nitpicking his post-game remarks is a little harsh, as most of those comments are just off-the-cuff talking…but is it really so much to ask that he refrain from excessively-praising, hugging, constantly socializing with, and even kissing various black teammates?

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    I respectfully disagree. The Patriots will likely field the following white players on Saturday…Tom Brady, Danny Woodhead, Wes Welker, Rob Gronkowski, Matt Light, Logan Mankins, Dan Connolly, Nate Solder, Sebastian Vollmer, Dane Fletcher, Rob Ninkovich, and Julian Edelman. They feature a white nickel cornerback, a white running back (sparsely used as he is), a record-setting white TE, and a record-setting white wide receiver.

    With Decker likely sidelined, Denver will field the following white players on Saturday: Tim Tebow, Zane Beadles, JD Walton, and Russ Hochstein.

    As others have mentioned, I do hope that Denver loses, but that Tebow plays very well in defeat.
     
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    wile,

    Tebow as a Christian and anyone else who is truly saved, including myself, don't think we are holier than thou as you put it, but quite the opposite.

    "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Jeremiah 17:9

    We admit we are sinners as we all are, including you. We know we have fallen short and have asked Jesus to save us.

    It's not Christians who think they're holier than thou, it's the non-christians who can't admit that they have sinned and are in need of a savior!

    Tebow knows he has a deceitful heart, but he asks God everyday to help him live the way he should and be an example of a life changed with the help of Jesus Christ his lord and savior.

    Tebow as nice of a person he is, he understands he will never be a perfect person and that's the first step to becoming a Christian, understanding you have a sin problem.

    Sorry to be preaching, I just can't stand to hear someone say Christians think they are holier than thou, when it's exactly the opposite!
     
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    Once again, I agree 100% with Thrashen. We'll see how things play out, but I would not be surprised to see Decker become the third, fourth or even fifth option going foward if Tebow remains the starter. In addition to Mary, Royal and one or two of the black tight ends will be more frequently targeted than Eric....I don't think him falling of map was a fluke, my guess is it will be a trend -- no other way to explain just 10 catches for 160 yards in his final 8 games. At best, Decker will be a Brian Hartline type going foward, while Mary will assume the Brandon Marshall role and get the vast majority of the targets, catches, yards and TD's from a doting Tebow.
     
  17. sport historian

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    So Tebow prefers black receivers?
     
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    I'm hoping Tim has a monster game, but the Pats win (due to more Whites getting PT). I hope for big games from Tom, Wes, Danny & Gronk as well.
     
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    I agree with you and certainly roll my eyes when I hear some the "aw-shucks" and "boy- scoutish" comments that he makes at times. But as you also point out, some of these heat-of-the-moment remarks could perhaps be taken with a grain of salt. Unfortunately, I hear a lot of White players in the NFL self degradating themselves without even realizing it, so Tebow is not alone in that regard. For instance, after his incredible INT against CIN, JJ Watt recalled another such play from college against Michigan, but saying he was caught by Denard Robinson because "he's a bit of a better athlete than me". Why would you soil one of the greatest defensive plays we've ever seen by mentioning this? Like you, I'd like to see our players be more careful with their words. And for reasons you stated, I'm fully rooting for a NE victory, and a great game from Tebow to keep things close and competitive.
     
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    Truthteller, I'm equally disappointed with Decker's reduced role in Denver's offense, but I'm not yet convinced that this is Tebow's fault because he'd rather throw to black receivers. However, the situation deserves close monitoring because it would be criminal for such a talented WR to be phased out and become a part-time possession guy because his QB never targets him. I guess part of this could be a trust thing also which takes a bit of time. Aaron Rodgers has finally developed it with Jordy and we've seen exceptional results.
     
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    I don't see any kisses. Just because some Tebow-hater put a caption on a screen doesn't make is so. I don't see Tebow talking with a Kurt Warner Negro-phile slur, I don't see him jumping up and down chanting like a jungle bunny ala Drew Brees, I don't see him disrespecting white receivers ala Brett Favre. All I see is a tremendous white athlete who is overly nice to everybody but still despised by the media and the pundits of the caste system. It's worked for him. His black teammates were always on the edge of mutiny. Just imagine if he had uttered even a single word of criticism in their direction. We would have seen a team quit mid-season ala Kerry Collin's Tennessee Titans. Turning the other cheek has worked for him.
     
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    I understand and I'm torn on this one too. However, New England's defense is nearly as black a Denver's so it's a defensive wash IMO. Just looking at the offensive players the WRs are a wash as both have a number one white receiver. Gronkowski gives the receiving edge to the Pats, but TE is not a big caste problem. Sure Edelman and Woodhead will get some play but they will be and always have been unfairly treated like permanent back-ups. No matter how good Edelman plays he will not be the starting CB nor receiver for the Pats at he start of next season. The same goes for Woodhead. That leaves Tebow who will run more than Woodhead. A white running quarterback is not supposed to exist. They have been prohibited nearly since the days of Tarkenton. He is this year's biggest caste-buster. Ask yourself if last year's biggest caste-buster, Peyton Hillis, was playing against New England who would you root for? I think we all would root for Hillis and his blacker teammates to win over New England. Thus, I'm still rooting for Denver to win and Tebow, but won't be disappointed if New England wins.
     
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    Decker won't fall further than the number 2 receiver as long as Fox is the coach, he is the best run blocker and they run the ball quite a bit. Jon Ritchie actually stuck up for him saying that blocking and catching are two different mentalities and hard to switch over from one to the other (which could be the problem with guys like Walter, btw nobody rips Schaub for targeting Johnson so much?). When DT came back he was often the number one read and Tebow did not go through his progressions, often locking on to his primary read, although he has gotten better. As for DT being a deep threat, he had some nicely placed balls and rarely got much seperation on big passes, he used his physicalness and was often tackled after catching, the 80 yarder he had to use a stiff arm after having a bunch of seperation because the dbacks were out of place. Like Don said, they are running him on shorter routes so it sucks either way, Tebow can't control the routes he runs.
     
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    The caste system is in part a joke that could be mocked with impunity by damn near any white player on a NFL roster. The whole damn Left and their PC religion is a joke.
     
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    While I rooted for Tebow this season, its a no brainer for me, I'll take Pats over Broncos any day, there is just no comparison in which team is fairer to whites. One thing about Tebow that was irritating is that he played for Florida in college. It would have been great had he chosen a school that emphasized "high character" athletes and academics, like Stanford or Northwestern, or even Vanderbilt or a Nebraska or an Iowa where he would have been with lots of white teammates.
     

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