Christophe Lemaitre "White Lightning" 9.92 and 19.80!

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  1. jacknyc

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    I am happy for Lemaitre getting the silver. He will go down in history as one of the greatest European sprinters ever now that he has 2 gold medals and 1 silver medal in the 100m at the European Championships.
    But he missed an easy opportunity here. The old Lemaitre would have won the gold medal. The field was relatively weak - no Vicaut, no Gemili, no Ujah. He really should have won the gold medal.

    On the one hand, you can say, yes it's great he got the silver medal.
    But on the other hand, with his talent and the weak field, he really should have been able to win the gold medal. You can see that he knew that as well from his reaction after the race.

    It's interesting that both this year and last year Lemaitre had relatively poor seasons, then finally pulled it together for a good performance at the Championships - last year at the World Championships and this year today at the European Championships.
    Why can't he run well all year?! I am really wondering now if he isn't training as hard as he should and then weeks before a championship he finally puts in the necessary training to pick up his performances.

    I guess I will always have a happy and disappointing relationship with Lemaitre.
    I'm happy with him because he is the best white sprinter in the world. But I'm also disappointed with him because I know he can be so much better.
     
  2. white lightning

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    I agree 100% with everything you said. Great post jacknyc.

    Time to start the 200 heats for the men and women tommorow. Hoping for some eye popping times. We need better weather!
     
  3. ZELLGADISS

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    Again im hearing stupid comments here...

    Vicaut and Dasaolu are clearly superior to Lemaitre in 100, they are great runners in 60.
    Lemaitre fought for bronze and finally silver by injury of Vicaut.

    Lemaitre made very good time, with good weather and average tailwind would be around 10.00, Lemaitre NEVER ran faster in a big championship.
    Vicaut and Dasaolu can to make 9.9 perfectly and 9.8 is not impossible for them.

    It is wonderful that Lemaitre made almost always very good performances in the big championships, i dont understant the people here :yell::yell::yell::angry:
     
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    We are happy he won the silver but why not expect more? 4 years ago he was a superior sprinter. He has gotten slower over both distances. They even talk about it as trackandfieldnews.com on the message board. Don't sit here and act like he has not gone a little
    backwards. No development and regression like if he is in his late 20's to early 30's. The kid is 24 and he is stuck in neutral. Of course we should expect more. When you love and root for a kid like many of us do you want to see him reach his peak performance. Although I'm happy he medaled, to just be content is a mistake. Lemaitre knows this and hopefully his coach has an epiphany and wakes up. He only has so many years left. There is no time to waste. Hire an asst coach to help with his start and drive phase before it's too late.
     
  5. RCSMAN

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    ABSOLUTELY !!!!


    JACKNYC said

    "I can't even see him medalling in the 100m at the Euro Championships.
    Jimmy Vicaut and about 5 or 6 guys from the UK can surely beat him.
    Plus the black Nor:faint2:wegian and maybe even Guliyev.
    I really think he is done in the 100m."


    an now JACKNYC says "he missed an easy opportunity here" :huh:


    "The old Lemaitre would have won the gold medal." :huh: 10.06 (-0.4) with cool temperature (13°) = sub 10 BASIC TIME and the "old Chistophe has never run sub 10 BASIC TIME
     
  6. RCSMAN

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    ELITE SPORT is not a video game

    it's difficult for young great sprinter.

    GEMILI is faster than 2 years ago ? NO, so his trainer is bad ?
    KIRYU is faster ? bad trainer ?
    BAILEY COLE is faster this year, glen mills is bad trainer ? (he's bolt's coach)

    Christophe's body has changed a lot since 3 years, his sensations also, it's difficult for him, but he will run faster during the next years
     
  7. ZELLGADISS

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    Well Lemaitre got in the past only 1 time sub10 basic time, in semifinal 10.06 -1.2 Barcelona 2010.
    In that final, without horrible reaction time his basic time would be around 10.00.

    Yesterday his time was good, with cold, headwind,...

    In the last years his best races were always 10.00-10.05 basic time, included his famous 9.92 or several 9.95.
    Lemaitre was not progressing last years, it is sure, but his times are good yet.
    A lot of runners get great times being very young and after they are finished (Darrel Brown by example)

    By the other hand, Lemaitre in my opinion will be never a great runner in 100, he will never get great starts and then is impossible great times in this distance.
    In 200 is other thing, the start is not very important and Lemaitre can get wonderful times there
     
  8. jacknyc

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    The field was relatively weak. If some of the other sprinters like Vicaut and Gemeli were there. He might not have medaled.
    But at the time I made those comments Lemaitre was having a poor season. He never was in the Top 10 fastest 100m times during the whole season, at some point wasn't even in the Top 25. So there was good reason to believe that he wouldn't do well at the Championships.
    But obviously he finally started training hard and got himself in shape for the Championships. He came to the final, in good shape against a weak field. So he had a chance to win it, and I believe the old Lemaitre would have taken the gold.
     
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    latest Pierre Carraz interview in German/Swiss:

    He still can't find the cause of his performance drop.... and more interesting info ;)
     
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    Pierre Caraz/Thierry Tribondeau interview some hours ago in french:


    Christophe's Heat 1 competitors are very weak so he will pass to the final without losing any energy...
     
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    weak field? heheh i was laughting so much :heh::heh:

    Reus and other germanS or other brittishs, ALL were slower than Lemaitre, please no excuses.

    ONLY Vicaut and Dasaolu in Europe are faster in 100m than Lemaitre.

    END OF THEME :sleepy:
     
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    Its not that he cant find the cause, its that he does not want to find it...as it points to his Coaches.... and Lemaitre does not want a change of scenery. Its his fault as much as his amateur coaches, if not more.
     
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    your basic time, wind is irrelevant...He has weakness is at the start (we agree), his 60 meter times are weak the last 2 years not being able to crack 6.62...but those sub 10's and sub 6.6's were not flash in the pan runs...he was still developing, and yet he has continued to regress. Had Lemaitre run a 9.99 once, and a 6.59 once...I would say you are right... but simply, this is not the case. Lemaitre is a sub 10 sprinter. He needs a change of scenery, he needs to leave Caraz....but dont worry RCSMAN, he stated himself he will never leave, so its Lemaitre's fault as much as Caraz. Wasted talent.

    PS: Lemaitre is not training for a 10.00 basic, he is training for a 9.8-9.9 like they stated 3 years ago with those sub 10 runs. 3 years ago he was starting his season with under 10.15 times, now its 10.3... You are nuts if you think there is nothing wrong with his development.
     
  14. lactatking

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    Puuuuh .....
    phantastic Race of Gemili .. Lemaitre with small Problems.
    Weak bench ..
    Gemili is the Favorit now.
     
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    I've been as disappointed as everyone else with LeMaitre the past few years, but I feel like he's coming back. Today, he was clearly tired in the 200's, and he said in an interview that he'd gotten no sleep. I hope he feels more ready tomorrow afternoon. Gemilli ran a Bolt-like semi, but, honestly, Christophe isn't out of it. If Christophe gets some energy back into his legs, and if he finally manages to pull off a good start or curve, he will surprise Gemilli. Gemilli's great, but, at his best, Christophe is the better runner. It's all about whether he gets enough rest.
     
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    WOW! Gemili slowing down considerably with a 20.26 is amazing....I think we may see a new European Record Holder....My prediction

    Gemili 19.70-19.75, Lemaitre 19.94-20.05...if wind stays low
     
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    He has not come back...sorry, but he cant break 6.6 in the 60, 10.10 in the 100 and still not under 20 in the 200 the last 2 years (Hopefully the final tomorrow, he'll break 20)...Bad coaching, bad trainers, bad environment. He works and plays in his comfort zone. Change can be good sometime, helps break plateau.

    He should team train with Adam Gemili and they can push each other to new heights. Otherwise, Caraz and his crew wil slowly rot this poor Talent to waste. 3 years and counting...
     
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    I completely agree with this - especially the part that he plays in his comfort zone. He still runs in small club level meets in France. There is nothing to be learned or gained from dropping down to this level of competition.
     
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    "Lemaitre could be the best if he trained properly"
    "He only trains hard before the championships. I think if he trained better/harder throughout the year, he could do much better"

    what stupid comments !!!!!
     
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    very very interesting
     
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    it will be very difficult for Christophe in 200M

    yesterday :

    gemili 20.23 (0.4) (0-100M : 10.25)
    lemaitre 20.26 (-0.4) (0-100M : 10.45)

    0.20s (2Meters) between gemili and Christophe after the first 100M, it's too much to win.

    Christophe have to run faster in the first 100M to win, 10.35 it would be good
     
  23. lactatking

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    Yes, we have noticed it. Ok, yesterday Christophe was a little bit tired. I can understand it.

    100m:
    Christophe has lost the race against Dasaolu between 40-70m. In this case not between 0-30m.
     
  24. lactatking

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    Under pressure you return to old patterns ...
    Christophe has to practice the start again and again and again.
    And:
    Like elispeedster I think that his weight training is not optimal.
    But I don't think that he has to do Olympic Lifting ... there are other excercises which are more similar to the sprint movement.
     
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    I know you guys are afraid to get your hopes up, but to me Christophe looks really good right now. Guys, he got no sleep the night before and had just finished the rounds of the 100. It was his second 200 of the day and he ran into a headwind, whereas Gemili had a tailwind. Their times were basically identical. Turn the winds around, and Christophe's time was better by a solid margin. Also, some observers say Christophe was trying to slow it down early, got nervous (his competitors were strong!) and had to pick it back up.

    Gemilli is great. And he's clearly a cool kid. But I still think a rested Christophe can take this.
     
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