2025 NFL Draft

Eagles made a solid pick at DT. That team understands ball games are won and lost in the trenches.

Wish the idiot GM in San Fran felt the same way.
 
I could see this coming with my draft mags. Just a very light sprinkling of short armers at about every position. Length and long arms lots of blah blah blah. Lack of length and short arms will doom you to the later rounds and shorten your career. When I read Jack Sawyer's evaluation and they went on a bit about his shortish arms that was it. I haven't looked at either mag since.

At least "bubble" has faded away, like any other fad. Which is the way this obsession with arm length will go. These experts are like a bunch of high school girls secretly watching each other.

Remember those strips across the nose that were all the rage for a while?
 
Another coal draft in the books. Went pretty much as expected besides pushing many of the White QBs 2-3 rounds down further than they should have been drafted.

Should we just track UDFAs here or make a separate thread?
 
Leonardfan said:
Another coal draft in the books. Went pretty much as expected besides pushing many of the White QBs 2-3 rounds down further than they should have been drafted.

Should we just track UDFAs here or make a separate thread?
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Separate thread.

The overall White percentage may not be as low as the '15 and '20 drafts, but only about 15 were drafted in the all important first three rounds, around 15%.
 
The best left tackle and the best defensive tackle in the draft were White and selected 4 and 5 in the first round. Sounds good, but also proves the theory that Whites need to be elite to land in a caste position. If you’re average, only blacks need to apply.
 
Well at least I got to really enjoy the sanders disaster. Shadier going 5th to the browns when they already drafted a QB ahead of him, and shilo going undrafted
 
So Larison, possibly the best dual threat running back in the class goes undrafted. If his skin was a shade or too darker, he would’ve went third or fourth round even coming from a smaller school.
 
Detroit seems to be the only remaining team that values white talent consistently. Had high hopes for Denver to double down and fill positions of need with white athletes, instead they reached massively, even on draft cuck standards, for a RB and WR on day 2 while Skattebo and Teslaa were on the board. All 3 California teams have been trending away from white players for a while, so it's not a huge surprise but still sad to see all 3 going in the wrong direction.

On the plus side, I think some late round QBs landed in decent spots. Ewers has a clear path to start, as does Riley Leonard who could eventually replace the atrocious Anthony Richardson.
 
This Shedeur Sanders fall is a candidate for slide GOAT. My Lindy's had him going 3rd and the Athlon Sports (don't recommend them) predicted 6th overall. 144th in 5th round?

Tough being the son of a superstar. Bronny James would know. Although I would say Sanders is a better footballer than James is a hooper. Everyone knew Bronny James was a nepo. Sanders also but he did produce something on the field.

In the interview I wonder if Sanders might have gone on a little too much about God. Seems his brand of Christianity could be of the prosperity school. I'm special because God says I am and so forth.

Not a diagnosis. I'm only speculating on what might be happening in a situation like this.
 
I agree that this draft wasn’t the best, but it does seem that Dart, Skattebo, Bech, DeSlaa, Loveland, Warren, and a few others will at least get legitimate chances to prove themselves. Like Nix, Maye, Bowers, Alt, and McConkey, they can make it if they stay healthy and perform. We need a few years of this if we are to overcome the obstacles and biases. Just some thoughts.
 
woody39 said:
Done a count so far

I would say Mason Taylor passes the eye test and would be counted as white by fans and probably subject to the same unfair treatment a white would so I have counted him in the following count by round.

Round 1

Campbell OT Patriots
Graham DT Browns
Loveland TE Bears
Warren TE Colts
Zabel probably OG Seahawks
Dart QB Giants

6 of 32 18.7 percent.


Round 2

Schwesinger LB Browns
Slough QB Saints
Taylor TE Jets
Ferguson TE Rams
Trapilo OT Bears
Ratledge OG Lions
Bech WR Raiders

7 from 32 21.2 percent.

Round 3

Teslaa WR Lions
Milum OG Jaguars

2 from 38 5.2 percent!!!!

Total so far through 1 to 3

15 from 102 14.7 percent.

Is that Round 3 a record for lack of white players must be up there!
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Updated count I make it

Round 4 - 6 from 36
Round 5 - 6 from 40
Round 6 - 13 from 40
Round 7 - 13 from 41

So my not so good maths and decisions on a couple of players ethnicity comes to

53 from 257 20.62 percent.

The mythical 20 percent figure....lol!
 
Best teams seem to be

Bears 3 from 8 with TE Loveland, OT Trapillo and Luke Newman Offensive Tackle from Michigan State.

Browns took both DT Graham at 5 and ILB Schwesinger at 33 only 2 from 6 but the top 2 picks in caste positions.

Lions 3 from 7 took OG Ratledge, traded up for WR Teslaa and took Dan Jackson safety from Georgia late.

Colts 3 from 8 took TE Warren round 1, Leonard late at QB and Hunter Wohler standout safety at Wisconsin.

Jaguar 3 from 9 with Tackle to Guard Milum, Kizer ILB round 4 and utility lineman Jonah Monheim from USC.

Raiders 4 from 11 with WR Bech from TCU, Tommy Mellot WR from Montana State, Cam Miller QB North Dakota State and Cody Lindenberg LB Minnesota.

Giants 3 from 7 with Dart at 25 in the 1st, Skateboo early in the 4th and TE Fidone Nebraska late.

Eagles 3 from 9 with Ty Robinson DT Nebraska, Mccord at QB and Drew Kendall at Centre.

Seahawks took 5 from 11 best of the lot.... OG Grey Zabel 18 overall, Rylie Kills DT Notre Dame, Robbie Outs TE Alabama, Bryce Cabeldue OT Kansas and Mason Richman OT Iowa.
 
Leonardfan said:
So just so everyone has this correct. Shedeur Sanders goes 13-12 in 2 seasons, struggled against better competition and it's the crime of the century.

Quinn Ewers plays in the SEC, the supposed best conference and leads the Longhorns goes 27-8, has a better arm than Sanders, back to back college football playoff appearances and he is still on the board.

Will Howard transfers in to Ohio St and leads the Buckeyes to the national championship.

Kyle McCord is pushed out of Columbus after leading the Buckeyes to an 11-1 season. He is viewed as the reason they can't win, he goes to Syracuse and turns around a struggling program to go 10-3 while leading the nation in passing.

Riley Leonard transfers to ND, is a dual threat QB that gets the Irish to the national championship game.

Kurtis Rourke comes to IU and leads Inidiana to the college football playoff while playing on a bad knee.

Yet Sanders is the victim. The double standard could not be more obvious and it's why the black QB situation pisses me off so much. All of those QBs listed above should be drafted already with teams that will allow them to compete for the starting job. The NFL is a joke.
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Outstanding summary and post!
 
Leonardfan said:
So just so everyone has this correct. Shedeur Sanders goes 13-12 in 2 seasons, struggled against better competition and it's the crime of the century.

Quinn Ewers plays in the SEC, the supposed best conference and leads the Longhorns goes 27-8, has a better arm than Sanders, back to back college football playoff appearances and he is still on the board.

Will Howard transfers in to Ohio St and leads the Buckeyes to the national championship.

Kyle McCord is pushed out of Columbus after leading the Buckeyes to an 11-1 season. He is viewed as the reason they can't win, he goes to Syracuse and turns around a struggling program to go 10-3 while leading the nation in passing.

Riley Leonard transfers to ND, is a dual threat QB that gets the Irish to the national championship game.

Kurtis Rourke comes to IU and leads Inidiana to the college football playoff while playing on a bad knee.

Yet Sanders is the victim. The double standard could not be more obvious and it's why the black QB situation pisses me off so much. All of those QBs listed above should be drafted already with teams that will allow them to compete for the starting job. The NFL is a joke.
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Perfect example of the double standards!
 
Warhawk_46 said:
So Larison, possibly the best dual threat running back in the class goes undrafted. If his skin was a shade or too darker, he would’ve went third or fourth round even coming from a smaller school.
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He has landed with the Patriots in post draft free agency, 175,000 in guarantees think he sticks not a bad position think we carry 4 backs and we have nothing after the top 3 other than another camp body. Stevenson is a fumble machine and Gibson isn't young. Could be the third down back with Henderson fielding early down work down the line for us.I
 
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