Maybe Manning will remember him and have the Broncos pick him up, although he will most likely be stuck as a slot receiver.
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Maybe Manning will remember him and have the Broncos pick him up, although he will most likely be stuck as a slot receiver.
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Given the NFL, I kinda saw this coming. I mean, who needs a tall, athletic, fast (sub 4.5), WR with good hands? Ooops, I meant, who needs a tall, athletic, fast (sub 4.5), WR with good hands who's White? Not the NFL.
The two plays I remember most of his were the fade pattern "jump ball" pass he snagged out of the air for a TD against Denver where he out-jumped and out-muscled the more affletic CB and the one-handed across the middle TD catch that he made while about three steps ahead of another more affletic CB.
The "new" Colts management just simply couldn't justify having two starting White WR's, especially if they take Luck over Griffin.
Luck will certainly need to live up to his name to be successful at Indy.
The two plays I remember most of his were the fade pattern "jump ball" pass he snagged out of the air for a TD against Denver where he out-jumped and out-muscled the more affletic CB and the one-handed across the middle TD catch that he made while about three steps ahead of another more affletic CB.
The "new" Colts management just simply couldn't justify having two starting White WR's, especially if they take Luck over Griffin.
Luck will certainly need to live up to his name to be successful at Indy.
The Broncos signed Stokley today.
Since this thread is about Austin Collie, posts about Manning, the Broncos, Blair White, Stokley, etc., should go in the appropriate thread.
Since this thread is about Austin Collie, posts about Manning, the Broncos, Blair White, Stokley, etc., should go in the appropriate thread.
The blurb below is from Weenieworld, which believes it's simply inconceivable that Collie could possibly be anything but a slot receiver.
Colts GM Ryan Grigson anticipates third-round pick T.Y. Hilton contributing in the slot with Indianapolis. It's Austin Collie's position, so Grigson's words are either telling about the player inherited from an old regime, or indicate Hilton won't be playing much offense in year one. "He really can fit us in the slot with a lot of things Bruce (Arians) does," Grigson said. "We’ve had this guy targeted for a long time."
Colts GM Ryan Grigson anticipates third-round pick T.Y. Hilton contributing in the slot with Indianapolis. It's Austin Collie's position, so Grigson's words are either telling about the player inherited from an old regime, or indicate Hilton won't be playing much offense in year one. "He really can fit us in the slot with a lot of things Bruce (Arians) does," Grigson said. "We’ve had this guy targeted for a long time."
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Let's hope this stays the case. Every media twit and DWF assumes Collie must be a slot player since he's White, but he belongs on the outside. It will also lessen the chance of another head-hunting DB trying to end his career.
According to the Indianapolis Star, the Colts' new coaching staff sees Austin Collie as "more of an asset outside, even in three wide-receiver sets." Interesting. We knew Collie had been operating as the Colts' No. 2 receiver in two-wide sets, but assumed he'd kick back into the slot in three-receiver sets. Per beat writer Phil Wilson, Reggie Wayne has been getting snaps in the slot in three-wide sets. How Indy's receiver corps shakes out under aggressive new OC Bruce Arians will be something to monitor closely in preseason games.
According to the Indianapolis Star, the Colts' new coaching staff sees Austin Collie as "more of an asset outside, even in three wide-receiver sets." Interesting. We knew Collie had been operating as the Colts' No. 2 receiver in two-wide sets, but assumed he'd kick back into the slot in three-receiver sets. Per beat writer Phil Wilson, Reggie Wayne has been getting snaps in the slot in three-wide sets. How Indy's receiver corps shakes out under aggressive new OC Bruce Arians will be something to monitor closely in preseason games.
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While Andrew Luck’s success during the Colts’ first pre-season game was exciting, I found it far more satisfying to watch his rapport with Austin Collie, who snagged 3 passes for 45 yards and a 23-yard TD in limited work. Collie was targeted 5 times, while the ageing, sluggish veteran, Reggie Wayne, was not targeted once. The most notable occurrence during their game against the Rams was the fact that Collie, the NFL most electrifying receiver in fall 2010 (prior to his concussions), was playing the position formerly occupied by Pierre “Brick Hands” Garcon (right outside flanker). Injured smurf wideout, Donnie Avery (who the Colts signed this offseason), didn’t play against the Rams, but has supposedly been working in the slot during practices...
From Rotowire:
If Collie is permitted to start on the outside this season, and it seems as though he will, I’ll be following the Colts as closely as any squad. He was a captivating talent at BYU and has excelled whenever given an opportunity as a flanker in the NFL, particularly so after a rash of injuries in early 2010 (see Broncos-Colts for evidence of his immense potential).
Aside from being a vastly talented wide receiver, Collie is a true role model for young whites, and may be the most “high character” player in the NFL. Though he’s only 26, he’s already been married for 5 years to his college girlfriend, Brooke, and the couple already has two young sons.
Collie is in the final year of his rookie contract, so I’d love to see him set the league ablaze in 2012-2013 (alongside Jordy Nelson and Wes Welker) and earn a lucrative contract...
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This is the latest write-up from Weenieworld:
Austin Collie caught three balls for 45 yards and a touchdown in Sunday's preseason opener against the Rams.
Collie was Andrew Luck's favorite receiver, seeing a game-high five targets while operating as an every-down player. Collie looked like a natural playing outside at flanker, securing a 23-yard touchdown dart from Luck in the second quarter. With a current Average Draft Position in the 14th round, Collie is perhaps the most underrated receiver in fantasy football right now.
This is what makes my blood boil. Collie is indeed a natural outside receiver, possessing all the necessary physical tools and skills for the position. We at CF have known this from day one, and watched in frustration as he was pigeonholed into the slot receiver role in favor of subpar affletes, wasting away his talents and also making him an open target to head-hunting CBs and safeties. His career nearly ended 2 years ago after multiple concussions suffered from brutal hits, and of course non other than Bob Kravitz :kev:even wrote a column, urging Collie to retire from the game.
This is basically caste system 101. But maybe the football gods will do us a favor. He's only 26, and if he can develop that connection with Luck, this could be a lethal combo for many years to come. Collie should never again return to the slot role.
Austin Collie caught three balls for 45 yards and a touchdown in Sunday's preseason opener against the Rams.
Collie was Andrew Luck's favorite receiver, seeing a game-high five targets while operating as an every-down player. Collie looked like a natural playing outside at flanker, securing a 23-yard touchdown dart from Luck in the second quarter. With a current Average Draft Position in the 14th round, Collie is perhaps the most underrated receiver in fantasy football right now.
This is what makes my blood boil. Collie is indeed a natural outside receiver, possessing all the necessary physical tools and skills for the position. We at CF have known this from day one, and watched in frustration as he was pigeonholed into the slot receiver role in favor of subpar affletes, wasting away his talents and also making him an open target to head-hunting CBs and safeties. His career nearly ended 2 years ago after multiple concussions suffered from brutal hits, and of course non other than Bob Kravitz :kev:even wrote a column, urging Collie to retire from the game.
This is basically caste system 101. But maybe the football gods will do us a favor. He's only 26, and if he can develop that connection with Luck, this could be a lethal combo for many years to come. Collie should never again return to the slot role.
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some bad news to report ...
Collie left the game against the Steelers tonight in the first quarter. he was going down on a tackle, when a second tackler came in and caught him on the back of the head in a hard, but clean, hit.
Collie left the game, and it was reported that trainers would not allow him to return due to concussion-like symptoms. let's hope they are just being extra cautious, and it wasn't serious. else, the nigh-uncoverable Collie's career may be stopped by the only thing that can keep him from destroying defensive backs: health concerns.
Collie left the game against the Steelers tonight in the first quarter. he was going down on a tackle, when a second tackler came in and caught him on the back of the head in a hard, but clean, hit.
Collie left the game, and it was reported that trainers would not allow him to return due to concussion-like symptoms. let's hope they are just being extra cautious, and it wasn't serious. else, the nigh-uncoverable Collie's career may be stopped by the only thing that can keep him from destroying defensive backs: health concerns.
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Rabbi Kravitz -- who started the firestorm in 2009 about the Pacers being "too white" -- has suggested once again that Collie should retire or be released by the Colts, without waiting for all the medical info to come out. Much like he did in 2010. This article starts out so bad, I can't even read it beyond a few paragraphs.
http://www.indystar.com/article/201...s-need-make-decision-Austin-Collie-let-him-go
I doubt this Jewish, liberal (or Neo-con?) writer gives a damn about the health and well-being of some blond-haired, blue-eyed mormon. If Collie, his wife and all his children were killed in a plane crash tomorrow he'd be dancing around his house in joy....just another stupid goy family he'd love to see wiped off the earth.
This is ONLY about wanting him to retire as soon as possible, so he'll never reach his potential and "steal away" a job that "rightfully" belongs to a black athlete -- kind of like the 5 or 6 whites on 2009 Pacers, he wanted see leave Indiana. Like most Jewish liberals, he probably lives in an area that is nearly 100% white. But at the same time, he loathes non-Jewish whites and would love to us exterminated or being reduced to abject poverty.
What a conundrum we face in America? We are rapidly going bankrupt (and losing 1,000's of young men) in senseless wars to protect a group of people that absolutely hate us and can't wait for our demise...much in the same manner Weenie world and Kravitz are giddy over Collie's football demise?
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I'm worried about Collie. I know my favorite NFL player from my hometown of Garfield, NJ, Wayne Chrebet, suffered quite a few concussions throughout his NFL career. I read an article on Chrebet and how he now sometimes forgets how to get to work and has many physical symptoms from the concussions he suffered. If this is going to put his health in jeopardy then he should retire.
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The mild concussion Collie sustained against the Steelers on Sunday was child’s play compared to vicious blow he absorbed against Filth-a-delphia in 2010, the hit that started it all…
After this hit, which was administered by Kurt Coleman and Quintin Mikell, Collie was twitching like a KO'ed boxer, and lay motionless for 10 minutes before being carted off the field on a stretcher. It wasn’t merely the collision (which likely drew a flabby high-five from Fat Bastard), it was the fact that his head bounced so violently off the turf.
Keep in mind, that was nearly two years ago, and he “survived” all last season without issue, and in the slot, no less. After the hit against Pittsburgh, he merely stood slowly, and then walked off the field.
They’ll likely shut him down for the pre-season, with no contact in practice. Some encouraging quotes from various articles…
He sounds alright to me.
How sweet would it be for Collie to play the entire season, dominate, make the Pro Bowl, and really rub the little Jew-Boy's nose in it? Everything you wrote about Kravitz is true, and then some...
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After this hit, which was administered by Kurt Coleman and Quintin Mikell, Collie was twitching like a KO'ed boxer, and lay motionless for 10 minutes before being carted off the field on a stretcher. It wasn’t merely the collision (which likely drew a flabby high-five from Fat Bastard), it was the fact that his head bounced so violently off the turf.
Keep in mind, that was nearly two years ago, and he “survived” all last season without issue, and in the slot, no less. After the hit against Pittsburgh, he merely stood slowly, and then walked off the field.
They’ll likely shut him down for the pre-season, with no contact in practice. Some encouraging quotes from various articles…
He sounds alright to me.
Truthteller said:
How sweet would it be for Collie to play the entire season, dominate, make the Pro Bowl, and really rub the little Jew-Boy's nose in it? Everything you wrote about Kravitz is true, and then some...
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I don't disagree in the least. While it would be great to see Collie have a 10 to 12 career and dominate like Welker, it would all be lost if his life was ruined after the age of 30, for example. But as my fellow poster (and friend) Thrashen noted, can't we wait and see how the test results workout and see how Austin feels in the next few days and next few weeks? Perhaps this was a very mild concussion, that he can bounce back from safely and quickly. Also, let's not forget, this is a high paying job for Collie, a father with young children. I can't imagine he'd make anywhere close to this doing "other things". So it's easy for Rabbi Kravitz to suggest he walk away from the game so suddenly, he's not paying Collie's bills.
If Collie had listened to Kravitz, he would've retired during the 2010 season. Dallas Clark had similar concussion issues early in his career and he's still playing in (Tampa) his 30's. Maybe Austin can play another 5 to 7 years, perhaps he can't even finish one more season? But as Bill Polian noted on ESPN, the decision should be made by Austin, his family and the Colts' doctors, not some a$$hole writer, who seems to have a very clear anti-white agenda. Also, have you noted how all the girlie-boys over at Gregg Rosenthal's Rotoworld are also urging Austin to retire?
Let's be clear about this: These are probably the same nutsacks that keep calling for perpetual U.S. led wars in the Middle East (Iran and Syria next?), even though thousands and thousands of young Americans have been killed, crippled or come back mentally destroyed for life in the last decade. Why should I believe they suddenly "really care" (on a personal level) about some random, blonde-haired, blue-eyed mormon football player who was born in Canada?
If anyone can answer the last question I posed, I would appreciate it very much.
Packers WR Greg Jennings has had the same number of concussions that Collie has had, I believe. Contrast how his present concussion (which he has been very slow to recover from) is being treated with the gloomy reactions to Collie's still not official concussion.
Why has no one pleaded with Jennings to retire? Why has no one noted "it's a decision for him and his wife to make?" Why has no one brooded over the future quality of his life, if he should continue playing?
They want Collie to retire, desperately. They probably realize he is the most talented of all the white WRs in the league now. He will utterly dominate if permitted to stay outside. They want him gone, forgotten, and replaced by another in a series of mediocre, Affirmative Action black employees.
If Collie comes back at full strength, we will hear a universal reaction of "what if he gets hit again?" Somehow, I don't think you'll ever hear anyone say that about Jennings. Again, the double standard couldn't be clearer.
Why has no one pleaded with Jennings to retire? Why has no one noted "it's a decision for him and his wife to make?" Why has no one brooded over the future quality of his life, if he should continue playing?
They want Collie to retire, desperately. They probably realize he is the most talented of all the white WRs in the league now. He will utterly dominate if permitted to stay outside. They want him gone, forgotten, and replaced by another in a series of mediocre, Affirmative Action black employees.
If Collie comes back at full strength, we will hear a universal reaction of "what if he gets hit again?" Somehow, I don't think you'll ever hear anyone say that about Jennings. Again, the double standard couldn't be clearer.
Concussion mania has overtaken the NFL. I don't think anyone would argue that. However while I'm sure it will be used as a tool against White players more then black that does not mean there is a complete double standard. Here in Detroit we got a guy who has been out for over a year with a concussion problem, Jahvid Best, and is STILL not playing. There has been plenty of attention paid to his problems, the local talk radio goes on about it all of the time. Lots of people think he should just hang it up.
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There was data on the web from a couple of years ago that suggested that blueberries or blueberry extract had surprising properties for dealing with concussions. Of course, there is the famous study where blueberry extract reversed some signs of aging in rats. I could not find an actual article specific to blueberries and concussions, but did come across the below article which mentions them among other interesting finds. I’m sure Collie has the best medical care possible with the latest procedures and precautions available, but at times conventional medicine/doctors do not encompass all that is available. Alzheimer’s being an example. If I suffered a concussion, I would want to get in there and stop the loop mechanism that evidently causes the lingering effect.
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[FONT=&]How to Recover from a Concussion – Athletes Take Note[/FONT]
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Great work Bigunreal, I was hoping someone would come up with a black version of Collie and you found a real good one. This article shows the two are almost exactly in the same boat, concussion wise and fairly close in age:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp...joins-green-bay-packers-expects-play-thursday
There does seem to be stark contrast between the way Collie's and Jennings' concussions are talked about and dealt with by the corporate media and fans, particularly DWF's who leave comments on websites: With Jennings, the media and fans ask how soon will he return? With Collie, it's how soon will he be coerced into retirement for his own good?
Seems to be no doubt about it. Just did a google search with the terms "Greg Jennings" and "retirement" and it yielded nothing. Zero...zilch...Just something recently about Jennings' wanting to get back from his "concussion" and Clinton Portis "retiring". Two unrelated items, that happened to be on the same page. Google "Austin Collie" and "retire", the search engine lights up like a X-Mas tree.
P.S: Jaxvid did a nice job coming up with Best, as an example of a black player who some are saying should retire. But he had major head issues coming out of college and has continued to sustain these things in the NFL. He was probably close to where Collie was in 2010 (when Kravitz wrote Collie should retire) as a college player at Cal and he still went in round 1. Are you kidding me, Lions? If Best was white, with his concussion issues, he would not even been picked in 7.
Also, I noticed on nfl.com, right after Collie was injured Sunday Night, well over 60% of the fan comments (via facebook) suggested he should retire. Look at the link below and tell me how many "fans" think Best should retire? Perhaps a few? Most are upset that he never plays, and have deemed him a 1st round bust and ready to move on with the next great black hope....
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2012/08/steve_mariucci_concussions_end.html
As mentioned previously, Collie does wear a special helmet now which is designed to help prevent concussions. If he suffered just a mild one and he feels good, as he has tweeted, it's no biggie. As Jaxvid mentioned, concussions have entered the hysterical stage now. Players used to get them regularly when football was a (White) man's sport, similar to how helmetless hockey players used to hammer each other (while sending slap shots toward goalies who weren't even wearing masks). Not saying concussions are no big deal, but the best way to minimize their occurrence is to severely punish head hunting defenders. Foote didn't even get penalized for his hit on Collie. Whether it was intentional or not, his team should have been penalized and Foote should have been thrown out of the game and given a very large fine. Hitting blacks in their wallets is about the only way to get them to change their behavior.
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Bigunreal said:
I often wonder if that’s the case. Collie doesn’t have the prototypical height (6-0), weight (200 lbs), build, or strength of Jordy Nelson. He’s very lean, and not overly muscular or large-framed like Kevin Walter or Eric Decker. He has an above average vertical leap (34â€), but performing body-bending, acrobatic grabs in traffic like Mike Hass (at Oregon State) isn’t really his style, either. He’s isn’t a violent, fearless, lightning-quick, human-missile with elastic hips like Wes Welker or Danny Amendola. Collie has so much talent, but his main strength seems be his straight-line, in-game speed, which allows him to fly past defenders at will. That’s the reason he’s always open, particularly when playing on the outside. When healthy, I don’t believe there is a cornerback on the planet that can cover him one-on-one.
In 2008, his final season at Brigham Young, Collie amassed 106 catches, 1,538 yards, and 15 TDs in 13 games. That’s an average of nearly 120 yards per contest. I must’ve watched every BYU game that season, and he was so comprehensively dominant, with shocking football intangibles …
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Also, for anyone who missed the all-too brief period in Fall 2010 when he started on the outside for an injured Pierre Garcon, have a look at this highlight package…
[video=youtube;9Inl0bEJHUU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Inl0bEJHUU[/video]
I’d love to see this young man recover and shock the football world in 2012.
[video=youtube;9Inl0bEJHUU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Inl0bEJHUU[/video]
I’d love to see this young man recover and shock the football world in 2012.
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Looks like Lonsman Kravitz's constantly needling Austin to retire has made him even more resolute that he wants to keep playing. And it appears -- undoubtedly to the chagrin of Rabbi Kravitz -- that he has the full support of his family, including Scott Collie, who played at BYU and the CFL.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...s-concussions-and-walk-away-from-the-NFL.html
P.S:While everyone talks about the ex-players that are all messed due to concussions, quite a few big names (Aikman and Young) seem to be doing quite well and they had many more concussions than Austin. I'm sure in an era gone by players might've sustained a few concussions per season in football and hockey and never even sat out a game or practice and played for a decade or more. Many of those guys are probably doing fairly well, while some are not. It's the vocal few that are not, getting most the attention, as they (and their Law-Yaaz) try to shake down the NFL for cash.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...s-concussions-and-walk-away-from-the-NFL.html
P.S:While everyone talks about the ex-players that are all messed due to concussions, quite a few big names (Aikman and Young) seem to be doing quite well and they had many more concussions than Austin. I'm sure in an era gone by players might've sustained a few concussions per season in football and hockey and never even sat out a game or practice and played for a decade or more. Many of those guys are probably doing fairly well, while some are not. It's the vocal few that are not, getting most the attention, as they (and their Law-Yaaz) try to shake down the NFL for cash.
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A quote from Collie during a charity event yesterday…
Unfortunately, I haven’t read anything to suggest that he’s returned to practice.
Unfortunately, I haven’t read anything to suggest that he’s returned to practice.
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Some good news from NFL.com, HC Pagano says that he will be ready for the season opener.
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I have mixed feelings about this. I would rather he take some time off like Jahvid Best. I would hate to see him go into early retirement.
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It seems that Austin Collie has disobeyed the unrelenting commands that he “retire” from Indianapolis Star reporter, Shylock Bobby Kravitz, and has not only returned to practice (and supposedly looked great) full force, but will indeed be playing against the Bears in Week #1…
We can only hope that Collie gels with Luck at the helm and remains concussion-free...or else the old Hebrew Windbag will commence his bellowing about his retirement or that the Colts should cut him. But how embarrassing for the venerable Rabbi if Collie were to set the NFL ablaze and make the Pro Bowl this season?
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We can only hope that Collie gels with Luck at the helm and remains concussion-free...or else the old Hebrew Windbag will commence his bellowing about his retirement or that the Colts should cut him. But how embarrassing for the venerable Rabbi if Collie were to set the NFL ablaze and make the Pro Bowl this season?
CAPTION: “Retire At Once, Goy Boy, WR is a Black Position!”