Wladimir Klitschko vs. Jean-Marc Mormeck

[white is right]

Jean-Marc Mormeck isn't a bad stay-active opponent for Wlad, although the difference in size will give fuel to the Klitschko-haters.

There is a rumor that if Arreola and Wlad win their next fights, we'll see Wlad fight Arreola in the USA in March or April.

I think Wlad will have an easier time finding opponents in 2012, such as the winner of Thompson-Chambers.

It would be good for the sport if the sanctioning organizations had more eliminators, at least one per year. The WBO hasn't had a heavyweight eliminator since Chambers-Dimitrenko in 2009.

The IBF is the one organization that has lots of eliminators, but they have a bad habit of recycling the same boxers who have already lost title fights, Chambers and Thompson being examples. Arreola vs. Wlad would be entertaining, but no one wants to see Chambers-Wlad II.

The K brother haters are largely brainwashed Americans, this fight will probably have minimal coverage in the US and won't do much for Wlad image wise in the states. Plus with Mormeck looking like a full blooded African(he is from the Caribbean) his athleticism won't be criticized as much as if he was White patsy type.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I find some of you harsh on David Haye. All the trash he talked brought public attention, and People's opinion on the Klit bros has changed a lot since Haye-Klitschko.
They saw a huge 6'6" moving like a light heavyweight and outclassing Haye while they expected a "stiff robot" as the haters loved to say.

Whatever we think about Haye's behavior or boxing skills, he did the Klitschkos a huge favour hyping this fight in terms of recognition. So many blacks and dwf's expected Haye to "demolish" Wladimir that they couldn't move backwards and say Klitschko fought another "bum".


Mormeck, on that same channel he works on, said it was a 50 : 50 fight, he probably tried to make his loss to haye look better on paper.

I hate Haye because of his mouth but he's a legit heavyweight. He was able to steal a couple of rounds in the fight. However, I don't doubt Dempsyfires thoughts as he's clearly the most knowledgeable poster in the boxing forums.

 

[werewolf]

"I hate Haye because of his mouth but he's a legit heavyweight."

I disagree. He was handed a totally crooked decision after a fight with a very sick Valuev during which - except for one single good punch - all he did was run away all night. The fight was fixed. Haye's celebrating before the decision was rendered and the complacency of Valuev and his corner after the fake decision was rendered is further proof.

Haye and his pal Harrison engaged in a blatantly phony charade of a fixed fight for which they both should have been banned.

The fight with Barrett was even fixed, with Haye's camp messing with Barrett's sleeping arrangements the night before, and house ref who ignored Barrett's knockdown of Haye.


"He was able to steal a couple of rounds in the fight."

What fight? With Dr WK? What rounds?


ww

 

[werewolf]

"He was able to steal a couple of rounds in the fight."
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The phony ref and judges gave rd. 7 to Gaye 10-8. I just rewatched it.

Dr K stalked the Gaye boy all round but didn't land much. Gaye did land with one totally ineffective punch - but it was little miss rubber knees who should have been deducted the point for falling on the ground, not Dr K who did nothing whatsoever wrong!

 

[whiteathlete33]

"I hate Haye because of his mouth but he's a legit heavyweight."

I disagree. He was handed a totally crooked decision after a fight with a very sick Valuev during which - except for one single good punch - all he did was run away all night. The fight was fixed. Haye's celebrating before the decision was rendered and the complacency of Valuev and his corner after the fake decision was rendered is further proof.

Haye and his pal Harrison engaged in a blatantly phony charade of a fixed fight for which they both should have been banned.

The fight with Barrett was even fixed, with Haye's camp messing with Barrett's sleeping arrangements the night before, and house ref who ignored Barrett's knockdown of Haye.


"He was able to steal a couple of rounds in the fight."

What fight? With Dr WK? What rounds?


ww

Haye fought better against Wladimir than he did Valuev. Consider the fact that Haye actually won a round or two in that fight. Wladimir's face wasn't perfect after the fight.

 

[werewolf]

Haye fought better against Wladimir than he did Valuev. Consider the fact that Haye actually won a round or two in that fight. Wladimir's face wasn't perfect after the fight.

I don't know about Gaye boy winning a round or two, but otherwise you're right. There is no way that Haye legitimately beat Valuev, and Wlad did have a little scrape under his left eye (link below). Did Gaylord stick his steel wool head in Wlad's face at one point?

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2011/07/lets-talk-about-rematch-next-time-i.html

 

[whiteathlete33]

I don't know about Gaye boy winning a round or two, but otherwise you're right. There is no way that Haye legitimately beat Valuev, and Wlad did have a little scrape under his left eye (link below). Did Gaylord stick his steel wool head in Wlad's face at one point?

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2011/07/lets-talk-about-rematch-next-time-i.html

Well Gayevid, was able to dodge quite a few of Wlads punches. Also I was impressed with his speed in the ring. Other than that he was mostly playing defense the entire fight. I still say Gayevid would give a prime Tyson, Holyfield, and maybe even Lennox Lewis a good fight.

 

[space hillbilly]

Well Gayevid, was able to dodge quite a few of Wlads punches. Also I was impressed with his speed in the ring. Other than that he was mostly playing defense the entire fight. I still say Gayevid would give a prime Tyson, Holyfield, and maybe even Lennox Lewis a good fight.

It's easier to stay in the ring with a much better fighter if your only fighting a defensive style.
Sparring partner's do it all the time! But to win a fighter must take chances. Something Haye was unwilling to do.

 

[whiteathlete33]

It's easier to stay in the ring with a much better fighter if your only fighting a defensive style.
Sparring partner's do it all the time! But to win a fighter must take chances. Something Haye was unwilling to do.

Haye didn't want to get knocked out because that's what would have happened if he wasn't on defense the entire fight. His goal was to escape that fight on his feet. After all the nonsense he talked before the fight could you imagine if Wlad knocked him out? We still haven't heard from his gay trainer Adam Booth regarding his supposed fool proof way to beatr Klitschko. Wonder why?

 

[Charles Martel]

Wladimir had surgery to remove kidney stones and this fight has been rescheduled for March 2012.

 

[werewolf]

It must have been a bad kidney stone to require surgery. As for the fight, it is an absurd mismatch.

 

[white is right]

This fight similar to the Chisora one last year was a showcase fight. Also like the Chisora fight it might not happen in the spring if a bigger money match can be made with another contender(Povetkin?).

 

[Charles Martel]

Wlad says he'll fight three times this year:

Mormeck this Saturday
Thompson in July
Arreola in the fall

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[Blue Devils]

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[BoxingSpecialist2]

Quick comments before the fight:

First of all, let me say LETS GO WLAD! Im a huge fan of both KBrothers, and of course I will be supporting Wlad fully today. I am not working today so luckily I will be able to watch this fight live. I'm happy about that cause most weekends I am working and thus unable to watch European fights.

Second of all, let me say I am happy for all of the media attention Wlad is receiving. This guy is a HUGE CELEBRITY in Germany, Europe and thats amazing. Wladimir and his brother have totally deserved it based on their career achievements as well. In this fight, Wlad is fighting a marketing "nobody". Mormeck sells no tickets, and brings no profit to the fight. Wladimir has sold almost 50,000 tickets for this fight and that is all on HIS OWN STAR POWER. This guy is bigger than Mayweather, bigger than Pacquiao. I would bet that he is the most famous boxer in the world. His drawing power is incredible and he seems to have reached an apex in his fight with Haye and afterwards, now.

Third of all let me say I have seen some small criticisms on boxing sites about the choice of Mormeck as an opponent. Lets be real: Wlad is coming off a huge win over Haye. Wlad deserves an easy fight, because his last fight was against the clear #1 contender and very accomplished fighter Haye. Besides, better ranked guys like Fury, Povetkin, Helenius have all said theyre not ready to fight Wlad. Its not Wlads fault that guys are afraid to fight him. Lets also not forget that Mormeck is a former undisputed champion, not just a titlist. But a few years back, Mormeck had all the belts at cruiserweight. This is a decent stay busy fight and the best that could have been made.

Prediction: Wlad TKO 7.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Quick comments before the fight:

First of all, let me say LETS GO WLAD! Im a huge fan of both KBrothers, and of course I will be supporting Wlad fully today. I am not working today so luckily I will be able to watch this fight live. I'm happy about that cause most weekends I am working and thus unable to watch European fights.

Second of all, let me say I am happy for all of the media attention Wlad is receiving. This guy is a HUGE CELEBRITY in Germany, Europe and thats amazing. Wladimir and his brother have totally deserved it based on their career achievements as well. In this fight, Wlad is fighting a marketing "nobody". Mormeck sells no tickets, and brings no profit to the fight. Wladimir has sold almost 50,000 tickets for this fight and that is all on HIS OWN STAR POWER. This guy is bigger than Mayweather, bigger than Pacquiao. I would bet that he is the most famous boxer in the world. His drawing power is incredible and he seems to have reached an apex in his fight with Haye and afterwards, now.

Third of all let me say I have seen some small criticisms on boxing sites about the choice of Mormeck as an opponent. Lets be real: Wlad is coming off a huge win over Haye. Wlad deserves an easy fight, because his last fight was against the clear #1 contender and very accomplished fighter Haye. Besides, better ranked guys like Fury, Povetkin, Helenius have all said theyre not ready to fight Wlad. Its not Wlads fault that guys are afraid to fight him. Lets also not forget that Mormeck is a former undisputed champion, not just a titlist. But a few years back, Mormeck had all the belts at cruiserweight. This is a decent stay busy fight and the best that could have been made.

Prediction: Wlad TKO 7.

Nice post and analysis BoxingSpecialist! You certainly know your boxing and I'm happy we could all come to an agreement. I expect Wladimir to win a bit earlier, maybe the fifth round. He is way too fast and strong for Mormeck.

 

[Liverlips]

At 5'11, 217, Mormeck is about the same dimensions as Tyson. He also has a bob and weave style.

Klitschko TKO 8.

 

[werewolf]

BS2 wrote: "Wladimir has sold almost 50,000 tickets for this fight and that is all on HIS OWN STAR POWER."

Good point. And meanwhile I see the w's and n's on the big boxing forums continue to go on about how everyone hates the Klitschkos because they're so boring and have ruined the heavyweight division (translation: because they're white men who don't even have the decency to be armed robbers or muggers or drug addicts).

Last time I looked the bookies were offering 1-50 odds if you want to bet on Dr K (but only 14-1 or 20-1 if you bet on Mormeck...talk about usurious spreads!).

What time is the fight US time?

 

[werewolf]

"Trainer Steward warns of the possibility of a long fight, pointing out that short, stocky, bob-and-weave fighters such as Mormeck can trouble much taller opponents. Steward suggests that it might take Klitschko several rounds to time Mormeck for the left jab. He also feels that Klitschko might not want to open up in case he hurts his hands hitting Mormeck on top of the French [yeah right] boxer’s shaved [4" thick *******] dome."

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/klitschko-a-heavy-favorite-to-retain-title-109487

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

I do agree that Mormeck may be slightly dangerous in the early portions of the fight, for example the first 4 rounds. Shouldn't be anything that Wlad can't handle though.

Let us remember that Mormeck was beating David Haye on points back in 2007, and knocked David down and hurt him in round 4.

Mormeck also has a history of fading past the 4th round. He has shown stamina issues and his lack of pace in the middle and later rounds are reasons why he was eventually KO'd by Bell and Haye, both in fights he was winning.

So, yes Wlad should watch out a little bit for the first 3 rounds or so. But after that Mormeck has no chance.

Even in the first 3 rounds. Wlad is out of Mormeck's league skillwise and Mormeck is too small.

Wlad should KO this African easily.

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

Nice post and analysis BoxingSpecialist!

Thank you very much.

I am so excited to watch this fight and for the first time in a long time I am not working on the weekend so am able to watch a fight live. Nothing beats the feeling of watching a fight live!

For Vitali/Chisora and Huck/Povetkin I caught a replay several hours atfer on youtube. Watching the fight live is so much better!

Lets go Wlad!

What time is the fight US time?

Apparently coverage for the Klitschko fight is starting at 3:30PM Eastern Standard Time, though the actual fight will be taking place later probably closer to 4:30 or so. Im guessing they may be showing one undercard fight or else some sort of introduction piece before the fight.

Most German fights occur at roughly 3:30-400PM US Eastern Standard Time. I always hit the Web around 3:15PM EST (good idea for getting streams, making sure you have access to the fight).

There is also a decent undercard on this show featuring Alex Ustinov - Undefeated Russian Heavyweight fighting Caribbean Kertson Manswell. Should be an easy win for the Russian.

Also, Russian Valery Brudov is fighting Negro "Brit" Ola Afolabi. Brudov has a chance but unfortunately Afolabi is correctly favoured to win there. No worries though, won't be long till Afolabi fights a live European challenger and loses (in fact he already has to Marco Huck!). It would be nice if Brudov pulls the upset.

What happens in undercard bouts doesnt really matter though. 99% of the attention for this card is the main event!

 

[Charles Martel]

Potential streams here:

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/35096/1/wladimir-klitschko-vs-jean-marc-mormeck-live-stream-online.html

http://www.premier--streams.eu/

http://boxingguru.eu/gurutv1.html

http://onesoccertv.com/ch1.html


And EPIX:

http://www.epixhd.com/klitschko-vs-mormeck/

 

[white is right]

I can see this fight looking similar to Lewis vs Tyson. Mormeck while never as fast or a big a puncher as prime Tyson hasn't nearly as faded as much as Tyson did by the time he fought Lewis, so this fight makes them roughly on par. The fight should look like a sparring session while it lasts. I can only see Mormeck winning by a fluke injury, I can't even see a fluke punch or Wlad being tactically foolish enough to punch himself out.

 

[Bk21]

about Mormeck:

he's not african, he's from french black islands (guadeloupe)

what changes with former challengers of Klitshko is that he's not gangstarap style, I've heard him several times on TV he's almost inaudible, speaks like a lamb and have huge respect for his challengers, extremely polite and had a good education, nothing to do with Haye or Chisora..

he's a good fighter and is very well prepared for this fight, but nothing that Klitshko cant handle, I bet for 9th round KO for Vlad l'empaleur

 

[BoxingSpecialist2]

about Mormeck: he's not african, he's from french black islands (guadeloupe)

My mistake.

what changes with former challengers of Klitshko is that he's not gangstarap style, I've heard him several times on TV he's almost inaudible, speaks like a lamb and have huge respect for his challengers, extremely polite and had a good education, nothing to do with Haye or Chisora.

Yes this is very true. Ive seen Mormeck's media appearances in the past. He comes across as respectful, intelligent, and highly articulate.

He doesn't carry a "thug persona" or anything like that. He is more of a gentleman.