Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye July 2011

[white is right]

This fight is on regular tv in most European countries. On the 2nd of July a German, Russian, Polish,Italian etc feed should be available. The English feed should be hard to find as this fight is a PPV in Britain. HBO tends to pull their feeds the minute they find out about a feed...

 

[Westside]

I think there is a cloud of paronoia that has descended upon the boxing board of CF. Steward giving Haye pointers to beat Wlad, really?

At this point the better man will win. If Wlad is not skilled enough to avoid Haye's launched bombs and counter with wicked left hooks or telephone pole jabs, then he might get clipped. But I think Wlad will keep his distance by ramming his jab into haye's face until it starts to swell and he gets tired. Then lower the boom with a pulverizing right, fight over.

 

[The Hock]

Haye has done a great job of hyping this fight. He's really good at the mind games too. If he quits boxing after Vlad knocks him out I can see him going into management and eventually becoming a pain in the ass to Adam Booth.

 

[Charles Martel]

I think there is a cloud of paronoia that has descended upon the boxing board of CF. Steward giving Haye pointers to beat Wlad, really?

I wish you'd stop doing this. I often wonder which side you're really on.

 

[moose]

most of the time when a fighter does all the pre-fight crap that haye is doing, they are scared and know they cant win, so they resort to what haye is doing, I think the fight will be a fiasco with haye running away for 12 rounds.

 

[muning]

Haye will run like a homo

 

[Westside]

I think there is a cloud of paronoia that has descended upon the boxing board of CF. Steward giving Haye pointers to beat Wlad, really?

I wish you'd stop doing this. I often wonder which side you're really on.

Keep wishing. Just trying to be a voice of reason. 2nd, no need to wonder and waste mind time. I am with all White fighters 100%. Your merger attempts to continously marginalize my posts and knowledge fail every time. Attempt to be more congenial to posters and especially a stalwart boxing poster.

 

[white is right]

most of the time when a fighter does all the pre-fight crap that haye is doing, they are scared and know they cant win, so they resort to what haye is doing, I think the fight will be a fiasco with haye running away for 12 rounds.

Yes when Tyson was in his mind the best heavyweight and didn't fear opponents he slept during press conferences. When he was slipping he started having his homo-erotic fantasies verbalized and threatened to eat unborn children of his opponents.

 

[JReb1]

Wlad is going to dominate Haye and KO him by the 9th round if not earlier. Wlad's chin is WAY underrated. He's never been knocked out cold, just down because he left himself open to be countered. Wlad now has a flawless defense and knows what to do even if he gets hit with a lucky punch, tie his opponent up and move until his head clears.Wlad also wisely paces himself so he wont punch himself out. Wlad learned from his losses so much so that he has zero flaws and is almost unbeatable IMO.

 

[GiovaniMarcon]

Prediction: IF Haye even gets into the ring with Wlad, Haye will eventually fake an injury at some point (most likely a sudden cramp or phantom low blow) to avoid the disgrace of getting beaten to death.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Prediction: IF Haye even gets into the ring with Wlad, Haye will eventually fake an injury at some point (most likely a sudden cramp or phantom low blow) to avoid the disgrace of getting beaten to death.

 

[white is right]

No fear the real "Manuel" Steward is here....http://www1.skysports.com/haye/video

 

[BoxingFanUK]

Emmanuel Steward is a very old black man and works with quite a number of successful white boxers. Wladimir Klitschko, Andy Lee, are his foremost 2 fighters at the moment and they are both white.

Personally, I don't think Steward has any racial bias. Steward has in fact made comments in the past, where he has implied that European boxing system (white) is better than the American boxing system (black).

Steward's commentary as an HBO analyst has also been largely pro-white, or atleast, race-neutral. For example, in the Pirog-Jacobs fight, Steward was very appreciative of Pirog and seemed to imply Pirog was winning the fight which was a view largely unsupported by DWF's.

Steward, in my opinion, is not a proponent of caste system in boxing or "superior" black athletes. He is aware that many white boxers are in fact better than black boxers.

Wladimir's amazing wins over Chris Byrd and Calvin Brock have also come under Steward, and both of those fights, Wladimir deserves most of the credit, but Steward played a great role as trainer.

If you want to talk about racist trainers:
- Floyd Mayweather Sr (absolute retard who has made anti-white comments and derailed Hatton)
- Roger Mayweather (absolute retard who has made anti-white comments)
- Teddy Atlas (Jew who only supports blacks)
- Virgil Hunter (Trainer of Andre Ward, I was disgusted with the way he talked about Kessler and Abraham)

Emanuel Steward, in my opinion, is a fair and race-neutral coach.

Edited by: BoxingFanUK

 

[BoxingFanUK]

At this point the better man will win.

Largely agreed, and I think "the better man" is Wlad, so long as he brings his A game, which he always has for the past 5 years.

As long as Haye hasn't gotten into his head.

I think Wlad is too good for Haye. Haye is a limited (though admitedly powerful brawler). Wlad is an accomplished amateur, smarter, more technical fighter.

Wlad should outbox then ultimately KO Haye.

My last statement to make before the fight:

Lets Go Wlad</font>

Edited by: BoxingFanUK

 

[werewolf]

My ONLY trepidation about this fight is that the boxing mobsters (who engineered the African-Englishman into his scam championship) stand to make big money if Wlad loses and they can hype up a super revenge fight with big brother Vitali. I just don't want to see the odds changing radically in favor ofHaye right before the fight, as if the high rollers had some inside info. But I've never seen the slightest indication that either of the amazing Klitschko brothers have had anything to do with the seamier side of boxing, except for likely being victims on the receiving end, as in Brewster 1 and Lewis.

 

[Colonel_Reb]

The fight is Saturday 4:45PM Eastern Time on HBO. I wish I could see it.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Man o' man, I hope Wlad beats the black off Haye.

 

[white is right]

Uncle Teddy is of course leading the viewers to a "potential" Haye upset. How could we think anything less of him....

Plus we a have point, counterpoint set of articles in this ESPN link. Colonel there will be pirate feeds to watch this fight just look on this board somebody will give a link.....http://espn.go.com/boxing/hot?id=6719894

 

[Charles Martel]

My ONLY trepidation about this fight is that the boxing mobsters (who engineered the African-Englishman into his scam championship) stand to make big money if Wlad loses and they can hype up a super revenge fight with big brother Vitali.  I just don't want to see the odds changing radically in favor of Haye right before the fight, as if the high rollers had some inside info.   But I've never seen the slightest indication that either of the amazing Klitschko brothers have had anything to do with the seamier side of boxing, except for likely being victims on the receiving end, as in Brewster 1 and Lewis.

Yes.

The Klitschkos have too much honor and integrity to ever throw a fight.

But I'm a little worried about something else happening - Haye and his trainer Booth are conniving shady scumbags. I'm hoping they check Haye's gloves carefully (it wouldn't surprise me if he fights with loaded gloves like Margarito used to) and be careful about water bottles and other things.

 

[werewolf]

"I'm hoping they check Haye's gloves carefully (it wouldn't surprise me
if he fights with loaded gloves like Margarito used to) and be careful
about water bottles and other things."


I would think they've learned their lesson about being careful about water bottles and food and "here's a free pie someone sent you". But yeah, gloves would be a concern of mine too. I've been going on about gloves, and who is even checking them these days? Even if you watch them taping the opponent's hands in his locker room, what stops some rat from slipping something - like maybe something sharp into the lacing - on them on the way to the ring? I'm thinking of Lennox Lewis. The rats always like to mess with gloves. Ask Angelo Dundee.

As for loaded gloves - a long time ago there was a very big fight in Yankee Stadium, much bigger than this one in the USA, and there were very powerful people who wanted the negro to beat the white man, and that's how they did it, they loaded up the negro's gloves.

There are creatures in the shadows now who are salivating at the thought of the money they could make in a big showdown revenge fight with Vitali, and even more creatures that do not want to see a clean cut honest handsome highly intelligent amazing athlete and physical specimen white man ruling over boxing's most prestigious division. They want a repulsive mulatto representing the "new multiracial UK" as the role model for the youth.

I hope, and fully expect, Wlad to make quick work of the obnoxious punk - decapitating him with a big punch in round one would be ideal. But keep it in perspective. It won't affect my life one way or the other whatever happens. It's just a sporting event.









Edited by: werewolf

 

[Westside]

Yes WW you right, it won't affect my life either way. However, just before the bell rings, my heart will be thumping, with the hope that Wlad does not lose. Only to show that this caste system is a bunch of bunk and that the good guy wins.

 

[The Hock]

A Vlad loss would bum me out big time. It would be the Hindenberg crashing into the Titanic for White Boxing. It would set White Boxing back much worse than, say Holmes/Cooney or Norton/Bobick did. It would totally invalidate Vlad's dominant run as champion.

I just want Vlad to get it over with quickly.

 

[Alexander79]

Guys, this is going to be one of the most easy victories that Wlad ever had in his career. Please do not fall for the Jewish controlled media propaganda that takes place in the US, Wlad will toy with Haye, i am not even stressing about it.

 

[Liverlips]

Haye comes in at a very low 212 - nearly a cruiserweight.

Wlad is the usual 242.

Haye plans to stick and move like he did against Valuev.

Please do not worry about this fight! This will be an easy win for Wlad.

 

[moose]

a vlad loss would not invalidate his greatness, I think the fight will be a boring 12 round decision win for vlad, I think that haye will run for 12 rounds, he will fall down if he gets in trouble and may even try to kiss vlad a few times because he knows he cannot win.