Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye July 2011

[Westside]

Parody spelling is subpar right now at work posting via my Iphone. Can't be perfect all the time. Yeah your meager attempts of insulting me make no sense. Just incoherent ramblings from a grumpy old man. You should feel good tonight with Wlad's victory rather than trying to get other posters against me. Guess you need a new hobby to redirect your anger.

 

[Charles Martel]

Remember when Tyson got KO'd by Douglas in Japan. That huge upset. The odds were like 25 to 1. During that fight Tyson had dumb and dumber in his corner. A white guy and black guy. During the breaks they were applying a condom to his swollen face. Yeah, parody a competent corner gets no credit. LOL. How many cases of beer have drunk?

Have you ever posted on www.blackathlete.com? They may have a section on black trainers and coaches on that site. They welcome comments from black-worshiping, self-hating white kids there.

Parody spelling is subpar right now at work posting via my Iphone. Can't be perfect all the time. Yeah your meager attempts of insulting me make no sense. Just incoherent ramblings from a grumpy old man. You should feel good tonight with Wlad's victory rather than trying to get other posters against me. Guess you need a new hobby to redirect your anger.

No, I haven't insulted you. You've been insulting me. You said I'm a "rabid conspiracy theorist" and I'm "spewing bile".

Go back and read your posts. Do you see that you've been insulting me?

And I do feel good about Wlad's win.

And it's insulting for you to call my posts "incoherent ramblings from a grumpy old man". Most other posters here do respect my contributions to this site. I'm not trying to "get other posters against" you, but if you keep on insulting people, you will become unpopular.
Edited by: Parody

 

[The Hock]

Just watched the replay. Give Haye credit, I think he did okay considering what he was in the ring with.

All this badmouthing of Steward I believe distracts from Vlad's victory. Seems to me that Manny is an honest man, and that he is even somewhat protective of Vlad, and knows that KO's will silence the critics more than decisions. Manny has stated that boxing needs more knockouts, and I agree. They're much better than decisions, especially for casual fan interest.

Vlad just missed with at least thirty or forty fight enders during the match. He's always had a bit of a problem putting the ordinance right on target when fighting smaller mobile fighters.

I just really wish he could have flattened Haye's ass, though.

Edited by: The Hock

 

[Westside]

Old man , I'll stand by my posts. When Don sees our exchange here, he will start in the beginning and clearly see who started the insults and slights. Your most aburd posts centered a
on good/ elite White fighters not fight on HBO. Because u thought they were set up. Nothing that a KO or dom
inate win. Can't fix. What a bunch of malarkey. Now with White traitor/affelet worship bit. It'same and tired.

 

[Westside]

The Hock! Finally a very recent to the minute poster. Thank you sir.

 

[Charles Martel]

Old man , I'll stand by my posts. When Don sees our exchange here, he will start in the beginning and clearly see who started the insults and slights. Your most aburd posts centered a
on good/ elite White fighters not fight on HBO. Because u thought they were set up. Nothing that a KO or dom
inate win. Can't fix. What a bunch of malarkey. Now with White traitor/affelet worship bit. It'same and tired.

Westside, most people here agree HBO does favor black boxers and discriminate against white fighters.

Do you understand the purpose of this website?

 

[Westside]

Parody , again with your. Lame accusions. Of course I know HBO agenda, but that doesn't mean Whites can't crash their party and take over,Iike the Europeans. Why can't you wrap your brain around this? And I clearly know what this site is for. I have given 150.00 dollars to this site and rebuild. Now tell me something I don't know based on facts not conjecture or your "feelings." I await to be enlighten by your wisdom!
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[alln2]

Manny taught Wlad how to smother guys when they try and get inside. Before he would just box and try tie them up. It didn't work against Sanders. But your criticism of Manny is valid in terms of asking for ko's and forcing Wlad to attack a guy who can't hit him unless Wlad is right there in front of him. In the 12th Wlad was mildly stunned because he attacked when he could have boxed and coasted for the win.

WTF. Did you see Wlad last night when gaye was trying to get inside? He was tying gaye when he tried to get inside. I'm with Parody all the way here. Wlad doesnt need a negro trainer. I dont believe this negro has taught him anything useful.

The only way Wlad was losing this fight in the last rounds was if he went for the KO, exposed himself and let gaye connect on a lucky punch. That negro trainer was pushing hard for Wlad to do just that. You dont have to be a "conspiracy theorist" to believe that the negro trainer was actually rooting for his homie to KO Wlad. I cant believe that there arent eastern european trainers who can do much more for Wlad than his "trainer".
Look at Bute, he doesnt need negro "trainers" to "teach" him how to box. It was Romanian trainers who taught him how to box, and Bute knocked out one afrolet after another, without a negro "training" him.

Just watched the replay. Give Haye credit, I think he did okay considering what he was in the ring with.

Credit to gaye? For what exactly? For running away 80% of the "fight"? For his numerous flops, when he faked falling down? For making excuses about broked toes? For what exactly gaye deserves credit? I give credit to the marxists who fixed the Valuev fight, thats where the real credit belongs. I also give credit to the same marxists for managing to place a negro "trainer" in Wlad's camp, making it look like this negro "improved" Wlad, making it look like Wlad needs a negro trainer. No, Wlad doesnt need a negro trainer, no White fighter needs any negro trainer, there are plenty of White trainers who can do the job, and have done the job for decades.
Incredible that there are posters on this site claiming that they would take only one White trainer over this negro trainer of Wlad. I would take any White trainer over this negro trainer that Wlad has in his corner. Any.

 

[Westside]

Alln2 how about that trainer who used a condom filled with water to calm down Tyson's swollen eye I that Buster fight?

 

[Alexander79]

A black day for the Jews and blacks was last night

 

[alln2]

Alln2 how about that trainer who used a condom filled with water to calm down Tyson's swollen eye I that Buster fight?

Do you understand the word "Any"? I would take a 5 year old White kid before I even think about a negro "trainer".

 

[nash99]

The trainer thing is a non issue. Ali had white trainers. Klit has a black trainer. What's the point...The sad part about this fight is Klit will get no respect from the white media. Before the fight the hype was that he has to win to prove that he is a great fighter. Why? He's been champ for 7 years....Now the media will all say that he didn't knock Haye out and just isn't a great fighter. I mean Ali never knocked anyone out and struggled against stiffs like Spinks and Norton. A guy Gerry Cooney knocked out in 60 seconds. But Ali is their hero for being a loud mouth punk so he will always be the "greatest".....hardly

 

[Deadlift]

Several White fighters would have beaten Haye more convincingly than Wlad did last night. People will now say that Wlad was terrified of getting hit, and that the lighter-weight divisions are "superior" because guys routinely get hit/rocked and continue to battle.

There are White fighters that would have taken more punches from Haye if it meant they would be able to get him closer, and in-range, to dish-out even more counter-punishment. It's boxing, afterall, and no matter who wants to deny it, people want to see guys get hit and overcome the adversity; People want to see a storyline and some drama. Well, in the first 6 rounds of last night's bout, Wlad truly looked "drugged/awkward" and I completely understood Steward's frustration.. I was very frustrated too! Wlad didn't bust the Caste System last night, not even close, but other hungry White fighters' surely would have.

 

[Franco]

I managed to see a delayed telecast of the fight from this part of the world (Philippines), and I more than happy to see Klitschko win, even if not his most entertaining fight. It comes to no surprise that my country men (if any watched) easily dismissed the fight as "boring", or any typical negative stuff thrown at the Klitschkos, and the state of the HW division. I'm likely the ONLY one from my country who saw the fight as the good one. Funny when Pacquiao's last few fights were quite boring themselves. I'm proud of Pacquiao, but not in the hysterical, drooling manner as most of my fellow countrymen would. Here's a Filipino's take on Klitschko big triumph:<div>
</div><div>http://www.gmanews.tv/pbr/article/225168/sports/klitschkos-lackluster-victory-and-the-sad-state-of-heavyweight-boxing</span></div><div>
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</div><div><h1 style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size: 23px; ">Klitschko's lackluster victory and the sad state of heavyweight boxing</h1><div ="date" style="color: rgb102, 102, 102; font: normal normal normal 11pxormal Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 10px; ">By CARLO L. PAMINTUAN
July 3, 2011 17:23:26</div></span></div><div>That, ladies and gentlemen, was the best fight heavyweight boxing can offer us and, safe to say, there was not much to see. Wladimir Klitschko (56-3-0, 49 KOs) defeated another challenger to continue the Ukrainian stranglehold on the heavyweight division.</span></div><div>
David Haye (25-2-0, 23 KOs) has fought only four rounds in the heavyweight division but he was the best challenger out there for Klitschko. All the other heavyweights were all too raw, too fat, or too long on the tooth for the champion. Haye did a tremendous job in promoting himself. He did win the WBA world title but his other three opponents in the heavyweight division were all cakewalks. He got the fight against Klitschko basically because he irritated the Ukrainian. For his efforts, he got a shot at the unified championship and a 50-50 split purse. Not too shabby.

Haye did not go into this fight to win it. He came hoping to steal it. He talked endlessly about proving to everyone that Klitschko is a bum by knocking him out. In the end, his bite didn't measure up to his bark. The former WBA heavyweight champion connected with about two or three good punches per round then spent half his time and effort in bobbing and weaving and moving his head around to evade Klitschko's jabs and straight rights, the other half was spent on diving to the canvass every single time Klitschko nudged him.

Referee Genaro Hernandez bought Haye's dramatics and even deducted a point from Klitschko in the seventh round. This is where Klitschko's head trainer, Emmanuel Steward, stepped in and lashed at the referee for allowing Haye to take dives. After this, the referee started seeing it the other way and he even scored a knockdown for Klitschko in round 11 after Haye threw himself to the canvass again.

For Klitschko, it was indeed a win but it was not a pretty performance by any stretch of the imagination. He showed us that he finds it difficult to connect against a fighter who has any semblance of head movement. Most of his past opponents have been stationary targets and that's how Klitschko's found it so easy to knock them out. The unified WBA, IBF, and WBO champion didn't do anything other than throw jabs and right straights, his combinations never went above four punches, and he was unable to wobble a much smaller opponent.

Basically, the two combatants went intothis fight as safety first fighters when all they talked about before the fight was about knocking the other guy's head off. Haye did not know what to do against Klitschko and the Ukrainian did not want to open up because he didn't want to get caught with a big punch. The result was a lackluster unanimous decision victory for Klitschko with the scores of 117-109, 118-108, and 116-110.

This fight was supposed to be the one that will usher in the start of a resurgence in heavyweight boxing; it ended up as the biggest proof that the division is in horrible condition. It is really sad that what was once boxing's most interesting division has been reduced to this. --OMG, GMA News

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</span></div><div>I certainly don't agree with any that was stated here. But, I'm not going to say thisperspective was influenced by the Jew-drivensports media either. This is simply a neutral (Filipino)</span></font>perspective that goes along the lines of the Jew-driven media.</span></font></div><div>
</span></font></div><div>I've long learned there are several promising European (former Soviet bloc especially) HW prospects purposely ignored by the boxing</span></font>bureaucrats. David Haye is not even as good as these upcoming (but ignored) stalwarts. Most people (regardless of race) seem have this premeditated (or programmed) notion that HW boxing is only good when the top dog is "black."</span></font></div><div>
</span></font></div><div>Anyway, my best regards to Klitschkos and other white fighters. To all you racially proud white folks out there, keep up the good fight. You rightfully deserve a place this world as much as any other human being. Later.</span></font></div><div>
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[sport historian]

Alln2 how about that trainer who used a condom filled with water to calm down Tyson's swollen eye I that Buster fight?

Westside,

It's a waste of time arguing with some of these posters. A few days ago, they "knew" the fight was probably fixed for Klitschko to lose.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Alln2 how about that trainer who used a condom filled with water to calm down Tyson's swollen eye I that Buster fight?

Westside,



It's a waste of time arguing with some of these posters. A few days ago, they "knew" the fight was probably fixed for Klitschko to lose.

Ahh, the genious speaks again. I made a claim that the fight could have been fixed and you start your little stories again.

Edited by: whiteathlete33

 

[sport historian]

The trainer thing is a non issue. Ali had white trainers. Klit has a black trainer. What's the point...The sad part about this fight is Klit will get no respect from the white media. Before the fight the hype was that he has to win to prove that he is a great fighter. Why? He's been champ for 7 years....Now the media will all say that he didn't knock Haye out and just isn't a great fighter. I mean Ali never knocked anyone out and struggled against stiffs like Spinks and Norton. A guy Gerry Cooney knocked out in 60 seconds. But Ali is their hero for being a loud mouth punk so he will always be the "greatest".....hardly

In case you are unaware of it, George Foreman was counted out against Ali in 1974.

 

[sport historian]

Alln2 how about that trainer who used a condom filled with water to calm down Tyson's swollen eye I that Buster fight?

Westside,

It's a waste of time arguing with some of these posters. A few days ago, they "knew" the fight was probably fixed for Klitschko to lose.

Ahh, the genious speaks again.  I made a claim that the fight could have been fixed and you start your little stories again.

Could have been? Well, was it?

 

[whiteathlete33]

Alln2 how about that trainer who used a condom filled with water to calm down Tyson's swollen eye I that Buster fight?

Westside,



It's a waste of time arguing with some of these posters. A few days ago, they "knew" the fight was probably fixed for Klitschko to lose.

Ahh, the genious speaks again. I made a claim that the fight could have been fixed and you start your little stories again.

Could have been? Well, was it?

Sportshistorian, I follow every Klitschko fight. I don't just "tune in" like you do because a big mouth like Haye was the opponent. After seeing the way they gave Haye his fabricated belt anything is possible in the post. Luckily my fix prediction was wrong.

Now sir, is there anything else you'd like to tell us about the fight? Was this the first Klitschko fight you have watched? Maybe I'm wrong here but you are the expert.

Edited by: whiteathlete33

 

[Westside]

In approx 20 mins I will watch the replay on HBO. A poster stated that it appeared Wlad has slowed down some with Parody in concurrence. I think Wlad is still extremely fast for a man of his size, 606 and 245 lbs. It was just that Haye is a bit quicker and mobile heavyweight and it only appeared he has slowed down.

I will give a better educated assessment without the jitters of watching it live with the comfort of knowing the final outcome.

 

[Deadlift]

In approx 20 mins I will watch the replay on HBO. A poster stated that it appeared Wlad has slowed down some with Parody in concurrence. I think Wlad is still extremely fast for a man of his size, 606 and 245 lbs. It was just that Haye is a bit quicker and mobile heavyweight and it only appeared he has slowed down.

I will give a better educated assessment without the jitters of watching it live with the comfort of knowing the final outcome.

Watch the 1st half of the fight and then tell me that something didn't look "off." It took Wlad way-too-long to get "warmed up.."

He didn't seize the moment or the stage.

 

[Westside]

Roger, Dealift I will.

 

[sport historian]

Alln2 how about that trainer who used a condom filled with water to calm down Tyson's swollen eye I that Buster fight?

Westside,

It's a waste of time arguing with some of these posters. A few days ago, they "knew" the fight was probably fixed for Klitschko to lose.

Ahh, the genious speaks again.  I made a claim that the fight could have been fixed and you start your little stories again.

Could have been? Well, was it?

Sportshistorian, I follow every Klitschko fight.  I don't just "tune in" like you do because a big mouth like Haye was the opponent.  After seeing the way they gave Haye his fabricated belt anything is possible in the post.Luckily my fix prediction was wrong.Now sir, is there anything else you'd like to tell us about the fight?  Was this the first Klitschko fight you have watched?  Maybe I'm wrong here but you are the expert.

Yes, you were wrong. Speaking of fixes, if a prizefight is fixed, the designated loser has to agree to "take a dive." Which means you thought Klitschko was going to give away the heavyweight title. You must not think very much of Wladimir Klitschko.

 

[whiteathlete33]

Alln2 how about that trainer who used a condom filled with water to calm down Tyson's swollen eye I that Buster fight?

Westside,



It's a waste of time arguing with some of these posters. A few days ago, they "knew" the fight was probably fixed for Klitschko to lose.

Ahh, the genious speaks again. I made a claim that the fight could have been fixed and you start your little stories again.

Could have been? Well, was it?

Sportshistorian, I follow every Klitschko fight. I don't just "tune in" like you do because a big mouth like Haye was the opponent. After seeing the way they gave Haye his fabricated belt anything is possible in the post.Luckily my fix prediction was wrong.Now sir, is there anything else you'd like to tell us about the fight? Was this the first Klitschko fight you have watched? Maybe I'm wrong here but you are the expert.

Yes, you were wrong. Speaking of fixes, if a prizefight is fixed, the designated loser has to agree to "take a dive." Which means you thought Klitschko was going to give away the heavyweight title. You must not think very much of Wladimir Klitschko.

Brightboy, Klitschko is my favorite athlete. There are plenty of ways to "fix" a fight. The Brewster-Klitschcko fight is what I call a fix. Klitschko had something put into his water. You obviously know nothing about boxing and your comeback at me was pathetic. Grow up man!

 

[Westside]

What is funny thus far is Lennox Lewis standing there like a dufus waiting for gaye to come out. LOL