Will Jordy crack the first round?
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Jordy making Pro Football Weekly's underrated list
WR Jordy Nelson, Kansas State
Came into the season with little fanfare and repeatedly arose to the occasion vs. better competition. Size, smarts and quickness could make him difficult to contain.
Jordy is also the no.5 WR on their draft guide.
WR Jordy Nelson, Kansas State
Came into the season with little fanfare and repeatedly arose to the occasion vs. better competition. Size, smarts and quickness could make him difficult to contain.
Jordy is also the no.5 WR on their draft guide.
ToughJ.Riggins
Hall of Famer
Double Post; sorry.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
ToughJ.Riggins
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Jordy certainly is rising. Dan Pompei of the Chicago Tribune also lists Jordy as a riser. Believe me, I highly doubt he'll slip past the 2nd round:
Jordy Nelson, Kansas State WR: He has grown steadily on scouts, going from a fourth-round pick to perhaps a late second-rounder. Nelson hasn't done anything spectacular in the postseason, but everything he has done has been pretty good.
Pete Fiutak from Foxsports.com lists Jordy as his 4th best WR. Here's what he wrote.
4. Jordy Nelson, WR Kansas State
Ultra-productive in his senior year no matter who covered him or what any defense tried to do, Nelson blew up into an unstoppable machine any time he touched the ball. While he's not going to blow past anyone and he's not as physical as his size might show, but he has functional speed and can separate when needed. Outside of a serious injury, there's no bust potential whatsoever. He plays hurt, has nice hands, and can be used in a variety of ways. He'll have a 10-year career as a complimentary receiver. If he goes to a team with a star No. 1, he'll be outstanding.
CFN Projection: Second to third round
Edited to Add: Sorry I see it was already posted, but at least you don't have to click now or possibly lose access to it from being archived.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
Jordy Nelson, Kansas State WR: He has grown steadily on scouts, going from a fourth-round pick to perhaps a late second-rounder. Nelson hasn't done anything spectacular in the postseason, but everything he has done has been pretty good.
Pete Fiutak from Foxsports.com lists Jordy as his 4th best WR. Here's what he wrote.
4. Jordy Nelson, WR Kansas State
Ultra-productive in his senior year no matter who covered him or what any defense tried to do, Nelson blew up into an unstoppable machine any time he touched the ball. While he's not going to blow past anyone and he's not as physical as his size might show, but he has functional speed and can separate when needed. Outside of a serious injury, there's no bust potential whatsoever. He plays hurt, has nice hands, and can be used in a variety of ways. He'll have a 10-year career as a complimentary receiver. If he goes to a team with a star No. 1, he'll be outstanding.
CFN Projection: Second to third round
Edited to Add: Sorry I see it was already posted, but at least you don't have to click now or possibly lose access to it from being archived.Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
ToughJ.Riggins
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I really think Jordy will likely go ahead of Malcolm Kelly in this draft despite what the idiot annalists are saying. With two very successful 1000 yard white WRs last year in the NFL and Anthony Gonzalez looking good as a rookie, GMs won't deny Jordy's significantly better athletic measurables and statistical production than Malcolm's. Jordy may go ahead of Mario Manningham and Andre Caldwell too. Jordy is a little faster than Mario, isn't a headcase like Mario, was more productive and is bigger.
I'd like to see Jordy go to Buffalo in the mid second round, the team many people are projecting Kelly to go to. Buffalo would be a good team to root for then w/ their already white friendly defense.
I think Jordy will be the 5th WR off the board after Thomas, Hardy, Sweed, and Jackson this year. That's my prediction. What do you chaps predict?
I'd like to see Jordy go to Buffalo in the mid second round, the team many people are projecting Kelly to go to. Buffalo would be a good team to root for then w/ their already white friendly defense.
I think Jordy will be the 5th WR off the board after Thomas, Hardy, Sweed, and Jackson this year. That's my prediction. What do you chaps predict?
Gi-15
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I've said all along to my friend who's a KC fan that the chiefs should look to trade down and get a low 2nd rounder to get Jordy, but now with most of the top affletes draft stock going down I don't think it would be a reach to get him at the 37th overall. That is if they got an OT in round one... they have so many holes...
ToughJ.Riggins
Hall of Famer
Let me guess? It was either the slower Mario Manningham (who ran a 4.6 electronic timed 40 & now has weed allegations against him) or the even slower Kelly (who showed immaturity for blasting his school for making him run on a supposedly slow field turf surface, when that is what most NFL teams play on. And then followed up by running a barely better 4.65 on Astro-turf.) I'm going to go ahead and guess Kelly dropped out of Mayock's top 5, since that is more recent news.
He dropped Kelly out of his top 5. Manningham is #4.
Jordy has been showing up in the top half of the 2nd round in more mocks these days. He's stood tall while the other candidates have weeded themselves out with lackluster workouts or character and legal issues. He's one of the only reasons I'll be watching the draft.
Jordy has been showing up in the top half of the 2nd round in more mocks these days. He's stood tall while the other candidates have weeded themselves out with lackluster workouts or character and legal issues. He's one of the only reasons I'll be watching the draft.
reclaimsocal
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I'm going out on a limb and saying that Jordy will be off the board by the 40th pick.
Sadly, I don't see another White Wide Receiver being selected for probably 120 or so selections. But lets hope I'm wrong on that second prediction.
Sadly, I don't see another White Wide Receiver being selected for probably 120 or so selections. But lets hope I'm wrong on that second prediction.
ToughJ.Riggins
Hall of Famer
My Fballblackfuture.com arguments for Jordy:
My "exact words" were heeded by Mike Mayock. I said specifically that Jordy Nelson was a better WR than Malcolm Kelly "a full two months ago." Now, low and behold, Mike Mayock dropped Malcolm Kelly out of his top 5 WRs for 2008 and entered Jordy Nelson in. These guys should hire me as a scout! I always had Jordy as my 5th best WR in this draft, way before Mayock. Jordy "runs close to as good routes" as Kelly and is both quicker, faster and more agile than Kelly and has only been playing WR for 3 yrs in his entire life so he can improve on his route running=more upside. Jordy is just as physical and tough as Kelly and adjusts to the ball "almost as well." Jordy has just as good hands as Kelly.
My top 10 WRs: (Yes I have an ego problem, but I am just as good a scout as Mayock)
1. Devin Thomas
2. Limas Sweed
3. Desean Jackson
4. James Hardy
5. Jordy Nelson
6. Mario Manningham
7. Andre Caldwell
8. Earl Bennettt
9. Malcolm Kelly
10. Early Doucet
My most underrated WRs:
Adrian Arrington
Todd Blythe
Mario Urrutia
Marcus Monk
Earl Bennett
Marcus Henry
Danny Amendola (Slot WR stud; similar to Devone Bess, but maybe better)
Devone Bess (Slot Stud)
Luke Swan (Slot Stud; dropped in rankings b/c of injury)
Most Overrated WRs:
Malcolm Kelly
Early Doucet
My analysis: Notice that I fairly argue for white players w/o seeming over the top. That is how we have to do it. We can't seem out of it to the general public. We can "plant the idea in drunken fans heads" about the truth of white players being discriminated against w/o being found out to be Castefootball.com members. If they find out we are regular posters here on Castefootball.com, they will unfairly label us as having an agenda. This is despite having truth on our side!
My "exact words" were heeded by Mike Mayock. I said specifically that Jordy Nelson was a better WR than Malcolm Kelly "a full two months ago." Now, low and behold, Mike Mayock dropped Malcolm Kelly out of his top 5 WRs for 2008 and entered Jordy Nelson in. These guys should hire me as a scout! I always had Jordy as my 5th best WR in this draft, way before Mayock. Jordy "runs close to as good routes" as Kelly and is both quicker, faster and more agile than Kelly and has only been playing WR for 3 yrs in his entire life so he can improve on his route running=more upside. Jordy is just as physical and tough as Kelly and adjusts to the ball "almost as well." Jordy has just as good hands as Kelly.
My top 10 WRs: (Yes I have an ego problem, but I am just as good a scout as Mayock)
1. Devin Thomas
2. Limas Sweed
3. Desean Jackson
4. James Hardy
5. Jordy Nelson
6. Mario Manningham
7. Andre Caldwell
8. Earl Bennettt
9. Malcolm Kelly
10. Early Doucet
My most underrated WRs:
Adrian Arrington
Todd Blythe
Mario Urrutia
Marcus Monk
Earl Bennett
Marcus Henry
Danny Amendola (Slot WR stud; similar to Devone Bess, but maybe better)
Devone Bess (Slot Stud)
Luke Swan (Slot Stud; dropped in rankings b/c of injury)
Most Overrated WRs:
Malcolm Kelly
Early Doucet
My analysis: Notice that I fairly argue for white players w/o seeming over the top. That is how we have to do it. We can't seem out of it to the general public. We can "plant the idea in drunken fans heads" about the truth of white players being discriminated against w/o being found out to be Castefootball.com members. If they find out we are regular posters here on Castefootball.com, they will unfairly label us as having an agenda. This is despite having truth on our side!
devans
Mentor
TJR - you are not as good a Scout as Maycock.
You are better
You are better
from draftdaddy:
"Former Oakland Raiders All-Pro safety Vann McElroy thinks his client Jordy Nelson may sneak into the first round."
"Former Oakland Raiders All-Pro safety Vann McElroy thinks his client Jordy Nelson may sneak into the first round."
backrow said:from draftdaddy:
"Former Oakland Raiders All-Pro safety Vann McElroy thinks his client Jordy Nelson may sneak into the first round."
Now that the Chiefs traded Jared Allen I'm seriuosly thinking they'll take Jordy with the 17th pick. They need WRs and the local boy would be a popular choice or the Chiefs might ASSume Jordy will fall to them at pick #35.
Gi-15
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he's the pick at 35, put you money on it. They won't take him at 17 because they know he will be there at 35
Nelson needs to gettaken by a team that has a good passing game. The Chiefs don't and I'm not particularly hopeful that it will improve soon. The Redskins are another team that has shown a lot of interest in Nelson. The verdict so far doesn't look good on Jason Campbell. It's very rare when a black WR thrives with a black QB throwing him the ball, much less a white one. The last thing we need is a repeat of what happened to Matt Jones.
itsme
Guru
Nelson's stock climbs to possible 2nd round
In the midst of all the uncertainty of any professional draft, Jordy Nelson admits, "There's more of a feeling that it's real. It's a feeling that it's going to happen, and not hoping it will happen. It's pretty dang close to being for sure."
"I'm hearing second round, or maybe the third round," Nelson said. "My agent has been looking into that quite a bit, and that's what he's hearing ... second round."
Nelson's only on-site NFL visit came this past week when the Washington Redskins wined and dined the former Wildcat wide receiver on Tuesday and Wednesday.
The Cleveland Browns were going to have Nelson come in for a visit, but cancelled.
"They didn't have a pick until the fourth round, so they called and said they weren't going to go to the trouble to fly me in because I wasn't going to be available in the fourth round," Nelson said.
The seven receivers ranking ahead of Nelson in the draft are: Malcolm Kelly of Oklahoma, Devin Thomas of Michigan State, Limus Sweed of Texas, DeSean Jackson of California, Mario Manningham of Michigan, James Hardy of Indiana, and Early Doucet of LSU.
Of those eight receivers, only Nelson and Thomas have not been "flagged" by the NFL for issues of character, durability, or size for the position.
[url]http://www.themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?article Id=0c0dd69268074529bdd3b0a1bf12b5ec [/url]Edited by: itsme
In the midst of all the uncertainty of any professional draft, Jordy Nelson admits, "There's more of a feeling that it's real. It's a feeling that it's going to happen, and not hoping it will happen. It's pretty dang close to being for sure."
"I'm hearing second round, or maybe the third round," Nelson said. "My agent has been looking into that quite a bit, and that's what he's hearing ... second round."
Nelson's only on-site NFL visit came this past week when the Washington Redskins wined and dined the former Wildcat wide receiver on Tuesday and Wednesday.
The Cleveland Browns were going to have Nelson come in for a visit, but cancelled.
"They didn't have a pick until the fourth round, so they called and said they weren't going to go to the trouble to fly me in because I wasn't going to be available in the fourth round," Nelson said.
The seven receivers ranking ahead of Nelson in the draft are: Malcolm Kelly of Oklahoma, Devin Thomas of Michigan State, Limus Sweed of Texas, DeSean Jackson of California, Mario Manningham of Michigan, James Hardy of Indiana, and Early Doucet of LSU.
Of those eight receivers, only Nelson and Thomas have not been "flagged" by the NFL for issues of character, durability, or size for the position.
[url]http://www.themercury.com/K-StateSports/article.aspx?article Id=0c0dd69268074529bdd3b0a1bf12b5ec [/url]Edited by: itsme