Will Jordy crack the first round?

Wil Jordy crack the first round?

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whiteathlete33 said:
The morons at rivals have him listed as the 16th best receiver. 16THHHHHH. Amazing.


Actually 16th isn't the worst of it. I'm holding off on updating my list of draft prospects until after the combine, but one of the "expert" sources still has Jordy as the 30th rated WR (unfortunately my spreadsheet is at work and I can't access it at the moment). Only one source has him listed in the top 10.
 

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reclaimsocal said:
whiteathlete33 said:
The morons at rivals have him listed as the 16th best receiver. 16THHHHHH. Amazing.


Actually 16th isn't the worst of it. I'm holding off on updating my list of draft prospects until after the combine, but one of the "expert" sources still has Jordy as the 30th rated WR (unfortunately my spreadsheet is at work and I can't access it at the moment). Only one source has him listed in the top 10.

Which site is that reclaim? Wow rivals isnt as bad as I thought in that case.
 
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whiteathlete33 said:
reclaimsocal said:
whiteathlete33 said:
The morons at rivals have him listed as the 16th best receiver. 16THHHHHH. Amazing.



Actually 16th isn't the worst of it. I'm holding off on updating my list of draft prospects until after the combine, but one of the "expert" sources still has Jordy as the 30th rated WR (unfortunately my spreadsheet is at work and I can't access it at the moment). Only one source has him listed in the top 10.

Which site is that reclaim? Wow rivals isnt as bad as I thought in that case.





It's NFL Draft Consensus [url]http://condraft.com/rankings/position-ranks/index.html?posit ion=WR[/url]


They have acutally dropped him a spot to #31, on a positive note they have Danny Amendola rated higher then any other source that I've seen.
 

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don't worry about draft sites rankings guys, most of those guys don't know more than you and me and just makes ranking by numbers. And most of them have Jordy as a 4.6 guy. It will all change after the combine.
 

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The establishment is clearly down on all of the receivers who are entering the draft. Mayock even said there's a chance that no wideout will go in the first round. As we speak, I can nearly guarantee that a smart scout and savvy personnel man are discussing how they "must have" Jordy Nelson. The only issue is at what draft spot.

As I've said before, Jordy is this year's Eric Weddle.
 

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Good point Stonewall, he's the type of guy EVERY team wants, but they also all don't want to look like fools and "reach" for him. I hope someone sell the house for him like the chargers did for weddle last year
 

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When I watched Jordy Nelson running the "gauntlet drill", he reminded me of Joe Jurevicius. Showcasing exceptional hands, he made the drill look easy, catching every ball with his hands, nothing touched his body.

This man will be a starting receiver in the NFL.
 
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Any videos available of this guy? I haven't heard of him, possibly another fantasy sleeper ala Danny Woodhead from Chadron. He sounds intriguing and if he's even 1/2 the player Wes Welker is; he sounds like a lock for the 2nd round. Teams are starting to wise up and realize that besides the marketing aspect and putting fans in the seats, whites can play too. I'd rather pay money to take my kids to the game to watch Danny and Jordy than Pacman and Vick. I run the risk of being chastised for being presumptive in this situation, but I would speculate that Jordy and Danny are good Christian,god fearing men, who are devoted to their families and the white race as well as football.
 

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WhiteSoldier said:
Any videos available of this guy? I haven't heard of him, possibly another fantasy sleeper ala Danny Woodhead from Chadron. He sounds intriguing and if he's even 1/2 the player Wes Welker is; he sounds like a lock for the 2nd round. Teams are starting to wise up and realize that besides the marketing aspect and putting fans in the seats, whites can play too. I'd rather pay money to take my kids to the game to watch Danny and Jordy than Pacman and Vick. I run the risk of being chastised for being presumptive in this situation, but I would speculate that Jordy and Danny are good Christian,god fearing men, who are devoted to their families and the white race as well as football.

Well your resume seem to include a lot of presumptive stuff dude, don't take it badly, but how old are you?
 
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I thought I'd do a little comparison of the stats of Jordy Nelson compared to the 2 Big 12 (black) WR's that are consistently rated higher then him by the "experts", Malcolm Kelly & Adarius Bowman.


Here are Jordy's Stats, first his career numbers then his Senior Year Game Log.



<TABLE =table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3>
<T>
<TR =stat align=middle bgColor=#633194>
<TD align=left>Stat Overview</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Receiving</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Rushing</TD>
<TD colSpan=2>Fumbles</TD></TR>
<TR =col align=right ?>
<TD align=left>YEAR</TD>
<TD>REC</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>ATT</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>FUM</TD>
<TD>LST</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2005</TD>
<TD>45</TD>
<TD>669</TD>
<TD>14.9</TD>
<TD>80</TD>
<TD>8</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>-2</TD>
<TD>-2.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2006</TD>
<TD>39</TD>
<TD>547</TD>
<TD>14.0</TD>
<TD>74</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2007</TD>
<TD>122</TD>
<TD>1606</TD>
<TD>13.2</TD>
<TD>68</TD>
<TD>11</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>-7</TD>
<TD>-2.3</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
<TABLE =table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3>
<T>
<TR =stat align=middle bgColor=#633194>
<TD align=left colSpan=3>2007 Game Log</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Receiving</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Rushing</TD>
<TD colSpan=2>Fumbles</TD></TR></TR>
<TR =col align=right>
<TD align=left>DATE</TD>
<TD align=left>OPP</TD>
<TD align=left>RESULT</TD>
<TD>REC</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>ATT</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>FUM</TD>
<TD>LST</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/1</TD>
<TD align=left>@Auburn</TD>
<TD align=left>L 23-13 </TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>90</TD>
<TD>10.0</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1.0</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/8</TD>
<TD align=left>San Jose State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 34-14 </TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>82</TD>
<TD>13.7</TD>
<TD>27</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/15</TD>
<TD align=left>Missouri State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 61-10 </TD>
<TD>15</TD>
<TD>209</TD>
<TD>13.9</TD>
<TD>61</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/29</TD>
<TD align=left>@Texas</TD>
<TD align=left>W 41-21 </TD>
<TD>12</TD>
<TD>116</TD>
<TD>9.7</TD>
<TD>20</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1.0</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/6</TD>
<TD align=left>Kansas</TD>
<TD align=left>L 30-24 </TD>
<TD>10</TD>
<TD>137</TD>
<TD>13.7</TD>
<TD>68</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/13</TD>
<TD align=left>Colorado</TD>
<TD align=left>W 47-20 </TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>93</TD>
<TD>23.3</TD>
<TD>43</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/20</TD>
<TD align=left>@Oklahoma State</TD>
<TD align=left>L 41-39 </TD>
<TD>12</TD>
<TD>176</TD>
<TD>14.7</TD>
<TD>46</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/27</TD>
<TD align=left>Baylor</TD>
<TD align=left>W 51-13 </TD>
<TD>8</TD>
<TD>105</TD>
<TD>13.1</TD>
<TD>31</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/3</TD>
<TD align=left>@Iowa State</TD>
<TD align=left>L 31-20 </TD>
<TD>14</TD>
<TD>214</TD>
<TD>15.3</TD>
<TD>58</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>-9</TD>
<TD>-9.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/10</TD>
<TD align=left>@Nebraska</TD>
<TD align=left>L 73-31 </TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>125</TD>
<TD>13.9</TD>
<TD>21</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/17</TD>
<TD align=left>Missouri</TD>
<TD align=left>L 49-32 </TD>
<TD>8</TD>
<TD>94</TD>
<TD>11.8</TD>
<TD>20</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/24</TD>
<TD align=left>@Fresno State</TD>
<TD align=left>L 45-29 </TD>
<TD>15</TD>
<TD>165</TD>
<TD>11.0</TD>
<TD>21</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR></T></TABLE>





Here are the Stats for Malcolm Kelly, who is consistently rated in the top 3 WR's for this draft class:



<TABLE =table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3>
<T>
<TR =stat align=middle bgColor=#7b0000>
<TD align=left>Stat Overview</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Receiving</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Rushing</TD>
<TD colSpan=2>Fumbles</TD></TR>
<TR =col align=right ?>
<TD align=left>YEAR</TD>
<TD>REC</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>ATT</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>FUM</TD>
<TD>LST</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2005</TD>
<TD>33</TD>
<TD>471</TD>
<TD>14.3</TD>
<TD>42</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2006</TD>
<TD>62</TD>
<TD>993</TD>
<TD>16.0</TD>
<TD>73</TD>
<TD>10</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2007</TD>
<TD>49</TD>
<TD>821</TD>
<TD>16.8</TD>
<TD>65</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
<TABLE =table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3>
<T>
<TR =stat align=middle bgColor=#7b0000>
<TD align=left colSpan=3>2007 Game Log</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Receiving</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Rushing</TD>
<TD colSpan=2>Fumbles</TD></TR></TR>
<TR =col align=right>
<TD align=left>DATE</TD>
<TD align=left>OPP</TD>
<TD align=left>RESULT</TD>
<TD>REC</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>ATT</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>FUM</TD>
<TD>LST</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/1</TD>
<TD align=left>North Texas</TD>
<TD align=left>W 79-10 </TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>118</TD>
<TD>29.5</TD>
<TD>65</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/8</TD>
<TD align=left>Miami (FL)</TD>
<TD align=left>W 51-13 </TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>102</TD>
<TD>25.5</TD>
<TD>30</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/15</TD>
<TD align=left>Utah State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 54-3 </TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>81</TD>
<TD>13.5</TD>
<TD>27</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/21</TD>
<TD align=left>@Tulsa</TD>
<TD align=left>W 62-21 </TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>48</TD>
<TD>16.0</TD>
<TD>21</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/29</TD>
<TD align=left>@Colorado</TD>
<TD align=left>L 27-24 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/6</TD>
<TD align=left>@Texas</TD>
<TD align=left>W 28-21 </TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>105</TD>
<TD>21.0</TD>
<TD>41</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/13</TD>
<TD align=left>Missouri</TD>
<TD align=left>W 41-31 </TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>58</TD>
<TD>11.6</TD>
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/20</TD>
<TD align=left>@Iowa State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 17-7 </TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>41</TD>
<TD>10.3</TD>
<TD>14</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/3</TD>
<TD align=left>Texas A&amp;M</TD>
<TD align=left>W 42-14 </TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>60</TD>
<TD>20.0</TD>
<TD>45</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/10</TD>
<TD align=left>Baylor</TD>
<TD align=left>W 52-21 </TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>82</TD>
<TD>20.5</TD>
<TD>51</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/17</TD>
<TD align=left>@Texas Tech</TD>
<TD align=left>L 34-27 </TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>44</TD>
<TD>8.8</TD>
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/24</TD>
<TD align=left>Oklahoma State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 49-17 </TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>10</TD>
<TD>5.0</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>12/1</TD>
<TD align=left>@Missouri</TD>
<TD align=left>W 38-17 </TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>72</TD>
<TD>18.0</TD>
<TD>47</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>TOSTITOS FIESTA BOWL AT GLENDALE AZ</TD>
<TD align=left>West Virginia</TD>
<TD align=left>L 48-28 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR></T></TABLE>





And finally the stats for Adarius Bowman of Oklahoma State, who is normally ranked between 5-10:



<TABLE =table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3>
<T>
<TR =stat align=middle bgColor=#ff7300>
<TD align=left>Stat Overview</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Receiving</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Rushing</TD>
<TD colSpan=2>Fumbles</TD></TR>
<TR =col align=right ?>
<TD align=left>YEAR</TD>
<TD>REC</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>ATT</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>FUM</TD>
<TD>LST</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2004</TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>329</TD>
<TD>18.3</TD>
<TD>52</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>-4</TD>
<TD>-4.0</TD>
<TD>-4</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2006</TD>
<TD>60</TD>
<TD>1181</TD>
<TD>19.7</TD>
<TD>75</TD>
<TD>12</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1.0</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2007</TD>
<TD>67</TD>
<TD>1006</TD>
<TD>15.0</TD>
<TD>77</TD>
<TD>8</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>3.0</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
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<T>
<TR =stat align=middle bgColor=#ff7300>
<TD align=left colSpan=3>2007 Game Log</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Receiving</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Rushing</TD>
<TD colSpan=2>Fumbles</TD></TR></TR>
<TR =col align=right>
<TD align=left>DATE</TD>
<TD align=left>OPP</TD>
<TD align=left>RESULT</TD>
<TD>REC</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>ATT</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>FUM</TD>
<TD>LST</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/1</TD>
<TD align=left>@Georgia</TD>
<TD align=left>L 35-14 </TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>65</TD>
<TD>16.3</TD>
<TD>28</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>5.0</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/8</TD>
<TD align=left>Florida Atlantic</TD>
<TD align=left>W 42-6 </TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>135</TD>
<TD>22.5</TD>
<TD>77</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/14</TD>
<TD align=left>@Troy</TD>
<TD align=left>L 41-23 </TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>57</TD>
<TD>8.1</TD>
<TD>27</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/22</TD>
<TD align=left>Texas Tech</TD>
<TD align=left>W 49-45 </TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>81</TD>
<TD>13.5</TD>
<TD>25</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>4.0</TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/29</TD>
<TD align=left>Sam Houston State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 39-3 </TD>
<TD>8</TD>
<TD>141</TD>
<TD>17.6</TD>
<TD>31</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/6</TD>
<TD align=left>@Texas A&amp;M</TD>
<TD align=left>L 24-23 </TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>142</TD>
<TD>20.3</TD>
<TD>47</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/13</TD>
<TD align=left>@Nebraska</TD>
<TD align=left>W 45-14 </TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>100</TD>
<TD>16.7</TD>
<TD>24</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/20</TD>
<TD align=left>Kansas State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 41-39 </TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>81</TD>
<TD>13.5</TD>
<TD>27</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/3</TD>
<TD align=left>Texas</TD>
<TD align=left>L 38-35 </TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>108</TD>
<TD>15.4</TD>
<TD>28</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>-6</TD>
<TD>-6.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/10</TD>
<TD align=left>Kansas</TD>
<TD align=left>L 43-28 </TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>22</TD>
<TD>5.5</TD>
<TD>13</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/17</TD>
<TD align=left>@Baylor</TD>
<TD align=left>W 45-14 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/24</TD>
<TD align=left>@Oklahoma</TD>
<TD align=left>L 49-17 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>INSIGHT BOWL AT TEMPE AZ</TD>
<TD align=left>Indiana</TD>
<TD align=left>W 49-33 </TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>74</TD>
<TD>12.3</TD>
<TD>39</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
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All 3 WR's are roughly the same size (6'3", 220 lbs), all three played in the same conference, Jordy was significantly faster then Bowman (4.49 v. 4.67) at the combine and Kelly is expected to clock in around 4.55 when he runs at his pro-day. So what is the difference? Why is Jordy seen as being rated well below Kelly and a few slots below Bowman by the vast majority of NFL Draft prognosticators, despite having the better college numbers and combine performance? If you throw in the fact that Nelson was also in the most inferior passing offense of the 3, what could he have done with a better QB? Clearly this is a case of being a "White" wide receiver in a league that doesn't want to deal with them. There is no logical reason why anyone would rate Nelson below either Bowman or Kelly based upon any measurable quantifier. When people scoff at the idea that there is a caste system, ask them what makes Malcolm Kelly or Adarius Bowman more desirable to an NFL team then Jordy Nelson. They won't be able to give you a logical answer.
 

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I checked and found that Malcolm Kelly and Adarius Bowman had more "hip wiggle", game speed, fast-twitch athleticism and electrifying smiles. That is why everyone would tell you they are better picks.
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I totally spaced out and forgot that Nelson is actually considered the #4 prospect out of the Big 12....


Here are Limas Sweed's numbers, and he is widely considered to be anywhere from the #1-#6 WR prospect in this years draft class, despite coming off of a season where he missed the final 7 games due to a hand injury. His size is comparable to Nelson, and his speed is pretty much identical.



<TABLE =table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3>
<T>
<TR =stat align=middle bgColor=#ef7321>
<TD align=left>Stat Overview</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Receiving</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Rushing</TD>
<TD colSpan=2>Fumbles</TD></TR>
<TR =col align=right ?>
<TD align=left>YEAR</TD>
<TD>REC</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>ATT</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>FUM</TD>
<TD>LST</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2004</TD>
<TD>23</TD>
<TD>263</TD>
<TD>11.4</TD>
<TD>37</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2005</TD>
<TD>36</TD>
<TD>545</TD>
<TD>15.1</TD>
<TD>45</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2006</TD>
<TD>46</TD>
<TD>801</TD>
<TD>17.4</TD>
<TD>60</TD>
<TD>12</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>2007</TD>
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>306</TD>
<TD>16.1</TD>
<TD>52</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>-1</TD>
<TD>-1.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
<TABLE =table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3>
<T>
<TR =stat align=middle bgColor=#ef7321>
<TD align=left colSpan=3>2007 Game Log</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Receiving</TD>
<TD colSpan=5>Rushing</TD>
<TD colSpan=2>Fumbles</TD></TR></TR>
<TR =col align=right>
<TD align=left>DATE</TD>
<TD align=left>OPP</TD>
<TD align=left>RESULT</TD>
<TD>REC</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>ATT</TD>
<TD>YDS</TD>
<TD>AVG</TD>
<TD>LNG</TD>
<TD>TD</TD>
<TD>FUM</TD>
<TD>LST</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/1</TD>
<TD align=left>Arkansas State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 21-13 </TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>93</TD>
<TD>18.6</TD>
<TD>35</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>-1</TD>
<TD>-1.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/8</TD>
<TD align=left>TCU</TD>
<TD align=left>W 34-13 </TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
<TD>6.5</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/15</TD>
<TD align=left>@UCF</TD>
<TD align=left>W 35-32 </TD>
<TD>1</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>9.0</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/22</TD>
<TD align=left>Rice</TD>
<TD align=left>W 58-14 </TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>139</TD>
<TD>27.8</TD>
<TD>52</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>9/29</TD>
<TD align=left>Kansas State</TD>
<TD align=left>L 41-21 </TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>14</TD>
<TD>7.0</TD>
<TD>13</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/6</TD>
<TD align=left>Oklahoma</TD>
<TD align=left>L 28-21 </TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>25</TD>
<TD>12.5</TD>
<TD>14</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0.0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>0</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/13</TD>
<TD align=left>@Iowa State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 56-3 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/20</TD>
<TD align=left>@Baylor</TD>
<TD align=left>W 31-10 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>10/27</TD>
<TD align=left>Nebraska</TD>
<TD align=left>W 28-25 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/3</TD>
<TD align=left>@Oklahoma State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 38-35 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/10</TD>
<TD align=left>Texas Tech</TD>
<TD align=left>W 59-43 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR>
<TR =evenrow align=right>
<TD align=left>11/23</TD>
<TD align=left>@Texas A&amp;M</TD>
<TD align=left>L 38-30 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR>
<TR =oddrow align=right>
<TD align=left>PACIFIC LIFE HOLIDAY BOWL AT SAN DIEGO CA</TD>
<TD align=left>Arizona State</TD>
<TD align=left>W 52-34 </TD>
<TD align=middle colSpan=13>Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
 

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Jordy has gotten a lot of positive feedback and will "quietly" have a solid NFL career.
 

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reclaimsocal,

that is great work!
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it's amazing how the facts verify our position, isn't it?
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now here's a NFL ready wide receiver. strong, fast, sure handed and with ehads on his shoulders. i'd love for him to get picked in second or early third round, he can be productive from the get go.
 

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he's also got a LOT of upside, as he's only played wideout for three seasons.

i swear, the Caste System, its cronies, and their strange "logic" baffles the mind.
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See below for updated draft rankings dated March 5th, from the website WalterFootball.com. Jordy is predicted to be taken with the 49th pick by Philadelphia:

Jordy Nelson, Kansas State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 217.
Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
Combine 40: 4.49.
Vertical: 31. Broad .
Projected Round: 2-3.

I was glad to see Jordy Nelson follow up a solid Senior Bowl with a 4.49 at the combine. He could sneak into the second round.

Pick #49 (Second Round): Philadelphia Eagles: Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State

I can't believe the Eagles franchised L.J. "Hands of Stone" Smith. The move just doesn't make any sense to me. Do the Eagles like the fact that he's prone to injuries, or do they prefer his uncanny ability to drop easy passes? I'm really disappointed in the franchise because that probably means they won't be going after Fred Davis at this juncture.

The Eagles desperately need a No. 1 receiver - and a large wide out at that. Donovan McNabb's small targets had trouble getting off the line of scrimmage in press coverage this season. At 6-2, 217 pounds, Jordy Nelson won't have that problem.
 

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You're right, backrow. Curtis is constantly targeted by the mainstream media and their adoring caste follower fans. The truth is, Kevin is the only productive wideout (or tight end) the Eagles have.

Could you imagine a starting wide receiving tandem of Curtis and Nelson in Philly? Most likely, Jordy won't end up in Philly, as there are a number of teams who covet his skills.

Everything that I see on the various draft forums indicates that Jordy has moved into the second round from previous views that he'd be a fourth round pick.
 

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Jordy is ranked 4th WR by foxsports.com's Pete Fiutak.


Btw Dumbass Scott Wright has now Jordy going in the middle of the second round(8th receiver chosen) in his mock draft even though he is still ranked as his 14th recevier...
 

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Dan Pompei mentions Jordy as a "late riser" according to NFL execs.


Glad to see his stock is on the move. The prediction that he ends up being this draft's version of Eric Weddle is looking more and more likely. My question is why a big, fast, Biletnikoff finalist starts out with low draft stock?

edited to add: link came courtesy of draftdaddy.comEdited by: jared
 
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