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I actually posted about Joe last season on the BYU thread before and after he played in that game. I know we have a lot of new members now, so I won't get too upset. As far as I know, Joe is still 3rd string for this season. I'll keep everyone updated on him and the rest of the BYU situation. My favorite BYU player, Nathan Mickle, had some really good runs last year from the H back position. He and Joe should both be getting several carries a game.
 

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Boise State's Jon Helmandollar looked to be a future star after a promising start to his collegiate career. as reported by college football newsback in 2004: Jon Helmandollar, RFr. - The 218-pound back has all the tools to be the team's new star back. He isn't just big, he's fast and very productive earning the 2002 Idaho Player of the Year honor rushing for 1,963 yards and 32 touchdowns. Once he works on his receiving skills a bit more, the starting job could be his.

since then he has had some impressive performances, highlighted by a five touchdown game, but has also suffered some setbacks. though very athletic, Jon now is considered by the mainstream media as just a power runner. coming back from taking a year off due to personal reasons, Jon, now a junior, should contribute significantly at the tailback spot this year for the Broncos. here's what Foxsports said about him: Helmandollar ended up sitting out last year taking away one of the team's key all-around runners. While he's not huge at 5-11 and 215 pounds, he's a fantastic power runner who's unstoppable on the goal line rushing for 13 touchdowns over the second half of the 2004 season. He can be used as a fullback as well as a tailback with good enough hands to become a big part of the receiving game.

and here's his bio.

Jon:
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and showing off his various talents:
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how far does the Caste System extend? how about a 212-pound "fullback"? guess what color this kid is?

Virginia's Josh Zidenberg is 6'0", 212 pounds. he also ran for 2,728 yards and 39 touchdowns as a senior in high school along with numerous postseason awards. his reward? being a walk-on Cavalier who gets to block. here's his bio, and a pic:
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Glyndon Bolasky the 2005 AZ High School Football Player of the year has made a big impression in the Wildcats scrimmages.They have around 3 or 4 running backs ahead of him though.It was thought that he would be moved to the safety position but as of now,the plans have changed.He has consistantly showed speed and power in the chances he has had and also the ability to score.We can only hope that he gets some chances to backup this season and makes a strong push next year to be the starting running back.He is only a freshman!
 

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how many of them will even get a shot at NFL, though? one, two? Leonard is pretty much a sure thing - although i fear he will be reduced to Alstott's role if not less - and that's about it
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Foxsports just posted this blurb about Auburn, and it includes this snippet about the Tigers' favorite red-headed step child, Tre Smith:

Tre Smith, Jr. - 56 carries, 285 yds, 5.1 ypc, 3 TD, 9 catches, 105 yds, 1 TD

After missing almost all of 2004 with a shoulder injury, Smith was the starter going into last season but didn't get more than backup work until the Kentucky game when he ran for 99 yards and a touchdown on 13 carries. He has a good combination of quickness and strength for his size, but he's still going to work as a backup with his biggest role as a punt returner after returning 26 for 203 yards last year with a career average of 8.6 yards per try. He could also be used on kickoffs if needed.


check out those stats... hmmm... a tailback averages over 5 yards per touch yet can't get on the field except as a punt returner.
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some good news! Jared Hawkins, the red-shirt freshman tailback at Vanderbilt is expected to start in the season opener against Michigan. while the promotion is due mostly to the appendectomy of the number TB, Jared has been impressing in camp after he's been given a shot. here are some snippets from articles discussing his performance thus far:

"(The scrimmage) was another opportunity to see how much progress we're making offensively and defensively, and see how our guys are going to react in game-like situations. Overall, I liked the effort and enthusiasm," (head coach Bobby) Johnson said. "We have a lot of guys on this team who want to contribute to our success. I thought a lot of our young guys took advantage of the opportunity, and made a case for playing time."

While each quarterback directed scoring drives, tailback Jared Hawkins stood out in the rushing attack. Sharing carries with elusive freshman Gaston Miller, Hawkins tallied three touchdowns, including runs of 13 and eight yards...

Hawkins' first score, a plunge from two yards, capped the first offensive touchdown drive...

"He's got to be the man," Johnson said. "It was good to see him run well. We have confidence in him and we thought he could do that."
 

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in more good news, Arkansas' Peyton Hillis is again being called a "running back" by the local media and the Razorback coaching staff.
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after all-SEC tailback darren mcfadden injured himself in a bar fight and is going to miss at least the season opener, Peyton is expected to assume an even larger role, which thankfully is supposed to include tailback, in the Hogs' game against Southern Cal.
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Peyton is also currently expected to start at punt returner, and possibly kick returner as well.
 

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Yeah Jimmy, I heard something similar on the Arkansas Radio Network show Sportswrap earlier this evening. They said Hillis is going to share kickoff return duties but be the sole punt returner for at least the early part of the season. Most people don't know that he was 4th in the SEC in punt return yardage last year. Peyton is the #1 FB, as well as being listed as the #2 TB. I don't know how often he and Felix Jones will be on the field together in the first 2 games, but it is easy to say now that they will both be used heavily. Also, white Sophomore FB Mitch Petrus, who is 6-5 284 and who was a Guard last year, is impressing coaches with his blocking ability at the FB position. He is in a dead heat for the #2 FB slot behind Hillis. Indeed good news for Razorback fans, especially since average at best black QB Robert Johnson will be starting the USC game.

On the Vandy front, I hope Jared Hawkins has a big first game, because that might be the only way he gets to keep his job after the black gets back. Those appendectomies take a while to get over though, so maybe he will start 2-3 games or more and be able to impress the coaches enough for him to keep starting. Here's to hoping the SEC's only half white team beats Michigan!
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Colonel_Reb said:
On the Vandy front, I hope Jared Hawkins has a big first game, because that might be the only way he gets to keep his job after the black gets back. Those appendectomies take a while to get over though, so maybe he will start 2-3 games or more and be able to impress the coaches enough for him to keep starting. Here's to hoping the SEC's only half white team beats Michigan!
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His first two chances to impress will be vs Michigan and Alabama.
 

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Triad is right, it will be very tough for Jared. Vandy will be huge underdogs in both their first two games. but just imagine if he plays well...
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as for the Razorbacks, QB robert johnson looked like a deer in headlights last year. it was terrible. my dad predicted about three months ago that he would start, even with two better white QBs on campus. i said no way! sadly, he was right, and with Houston Nutt's record of loving black players i shouldn't have been surprised.

as a Hog fan, i hope he does alright because it will help us win, but realistically he will probably continue to stink it up and they'll throw in our highly touted frosh Mitch Mustain to take his lumps and see what he's made of.

Hillis is the man! i just hope he gets his touches. if so, i think he will surprise most people who watch the game.
 

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Talent is a terrible thing to let just sit ....Why did he even give the kid a schlorship, when he knew he wasn't gonna play him.





whoever gave him the idea to go to auburngave himbad adviceEdited by: bigman
 

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a story on WVU's Owen Schmitt appears in the current issue of ESPN the Magazine. it's pretty original. it's done in a comic book style and presents Owen as a bad ass superhero. check it out, or maybe one of you computer savvy guys can post it somehow...
 

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Bigman, I wonder what schools they could have told Tre to go to? I mean, Tub told him he'd let him be a RB at Auburn. So the coach lied, its not whoever told him to go there. There are very few D1 schools I'd recommend a white RB to go to, and I aware of the Caste System, unlike those who gave him advice. I imagine in the end though, it was Tre's decision to go there. I doubt he had a lot of other D1 offers.
 

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if, in fact, he wasn't recruited heavily it was due strictly to the caste system. Tre was THE elite running back in the state of Florida his senior year, and he set numerous track records at his school as well, if i recall correctly.
 

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true freshmen rarely make much of an impact in Division I football, but how wild would it be if a white true frosh tailback made some noise? that might be the case, as Stanford's Toby Gerhart is listed as the number two RB going into the season opener. the only question is a hamstring injury he suffered late in camp. otherwise California's ALL-TIME LEADING RUSHER was impressing his coach in camp. an excerpt from a recent article:

Kimble and Evans, a redshirt junior, could be pushed by freshman Toby Gerhart, a football/baseball standout who looked good in camp until suffering a hamstring injury last week. The former Norco High star was the California high school football player of the year last season, when he set the state's career rushing record with 9,662 yards. He scored 108 touchdowns.

"He's a little more mature than most freshman walking through the door," said (running backs coach Buzz) Preston, who has returned to Stanford after spending three seasons at Notre Dame. "He understands the game probably because he's a coach's son, and he's been around the game.

"The thing that I've been pleased with is that he knows how to pick up protection, plus physically he's really developed. That gives him a chance."

At 6-foot-1 and 228 pounds, Gerhart is bigger than Kimble (6-1, 195) and Evans (6-1, 190) but has a ways to go to catch Frank (6-2, 250).


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If he can play he will play for that team. Funny he is so stout he looks like a butterball in uniform, but with his sweats on he looks physically fit. He could be a stud for the Cardinals....
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It's crushing to lose Bell for the season but let's stay behind all of these other guys.Who knows how good they might end up being.I want to see Kevin Harris get to start soon.The guy is a machine.
 

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White Lightning who is Kevin Harris, i am also pumped for Toby...he looks like a real nice prospect.
 

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Jacob Hester will make some noise this year!

See:

LSU's Hester stays busy in backfield

"In spring, all I played was tailback. The coaches told me I'd be the starting fullback, but I'd probably play tailback," Hester said. "I didn't know I'd play this much tailback, but it's a good surprise to be able to get in there and run the ball."

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Kevin Harris plays for West Virginia.He will be a star.Trust me when I tell you that.He is that good.
 

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I apologize guys.He is a redshirt freshman at Wake Forest.I don't know how I got the school wrong.He is 6'1 and 230lbs of muscle.He runs a 4.48 in the 40.He should see some time this year and make a push to be the starting running back in the next couple of years.This guy is a beast.You have to watch him run the ball to know what I mean.Picture Mike Alstott but maybe a little faster.
 

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Kevin Harris, I knew I recognized the name:
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The best running back in Central Florida this season is Seminole High's Kevin Harris, who is white. He committed recently to Wake Forest because it was one of two Division I-A schools that promised him a shot purely at tailback. Mick Harris, Kevin's father and the coach at Seminole, said that during the recruiting process, "One recruiter just plain told me, 'Coach, I could never bring back a white running back to my university.' I just kind of looked at him, and he said, 'That's just the way it is. They just wouldn't accept it.' So I think it is there. I think there is a perception. But I don't think it's because there is a prejudice against a white running back. I just think it is because of the overwhelming number of black running backs in the NFL and college."
Kevin Harris, who rushed for 1,179 yards and nine touchdowns last season as a junior at Winter Springs, then padded his résumé this summer with one of the best workouts at the Nike prep combine in Miami (fourth among 30 running-back prospects, he said).
"I've had a lot of people tell me that if I was black, I'd probably have a lot more looks," Harris says. "There have been a few coaches from other high schools and stuff like that. They ask me about some schools recruiting me: 'What do they want you to play?' And then I tell them linebacker, and they're like, 'They have got to be out of their minds. If you were a black kid, you'd be on the front of all the magazines.' I get a lot of that."
Notice how rivals.com listed him:
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i just watched two games with white tailbacks, so i'll give you my observations...

Idaho-Michigan State
clearly overmatched physically, the Idaho Vandals hung in there with toughness and their star running back, but they had three mistakes that cost them the game. it was still close, with MSU adding a meaningless field goal with 30 seconds left.

Idaho's Jayson Bird was clearly the best running back in the game. if he had any kind of offensive line, he would put up MONSTER numbers. as it is, he was hit at or behind the line of scrimmage on all but one running play... and he still managed 88 yards and a touchdown on 20 carries, to be the game's leading rusher.
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for those who haven't seen him play, Bird is extremely physical. i don't recall him going down on the first hit in the entire game. he is also elusive, and you see a lot of defenders reaching out to grab at him instead of hitting him square. his moves must be very subtle because he doesn't dance around at all. he sticks his head down and gets what he can. and despite being hit in the backfield all game long, he had only one carry that lost yardage.

he got to the edge of the defense without getting hit on just one play, but on that occasion he showed a little burst and picked up 10 yards. he doesn't appear to have breakaway speed, but he's faster than he looks. that's evidenced by the fact that after the whistle blows, he's picked up five or six yards despite all the contact. his biggest negative is that he isn't a receiving threat.

like i said, he's extremely physical. on his touchdown run from one yard out, he ran over and through the best two defensive players on Michigan's roster and drug a third defender into the endzone with him.

all in all, an incredible performance against a defense that didn't have to worry about a passing game or any other threat in the running game; they just keyed on Bird and he still put up big numbers.

as an aside, MSU QB Drew Stanton has to be one of the best running quarterbacks in the country. he looked fast and very instinctive in the open field.

Vanderbilt-Michigan
freshman TB Jared Hawkins didn't start the game, but their starter had 8 carries for just 1 yard.
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starting QB, the afletik chris nickson, had 16 carries for just 23 yards
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but i'll talk about him in a second...

Jared got in the game late and looked like he has elite burst and elusiveness. they also played him a lot in throwing situations, but he didn't have any tossed his way.

he looked skinny, but if the D can't catch you it doesn't matter. he had just two carries: one for 7 yards and the next for 11 yards. so, he was the second leading rusher for the Commodoers with just 18 yards on 2 carries.
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his obvious explosiveness perked me up in an otherwise horrid Vandy offense. and i expect him to get more opportunities in the near future.

and one last note, the afleet and QB chris nickson...
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that's what he looked like all game. he is your stereotypical black quarterback: he can run a little bit, but there's no telling where his passes are gonna go, and his decision making is atrocious. he had three fumbles and lost two of them. he dribbled the ball so much it looked like he was playing basketball. and if his passes weren't so incredibly off target he would have had about three INTs. how he earned the starting nod is anyone's guess. i think this game sparked a QB controversy at Vanderbilt.
 
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