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Miles Burris cut from Raiders.

Burris had 110 tackles last year and he gets cut. Burris is also very athletic. He was cut because he's white.

Vaunted rookie Khalil Mack only had 75 tackles.

The NFL, where the best players play - unless they're white.

A smart team would pick Burris up. Maybe the Patriots...
 

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Burris had 110 tackles last year and he gets cut. Burris is also very athletic. He was cut because he's white.

Vaunted rookie Khalil Mack only had 75 tackles.

The NFL, where the best players play - unless they're white.

A smart team would pick Burris up. Maybe the Patriots...

Mack has more explosive ability and upside due to his black skin. #castelogic
 

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I'd be suprised if Jacksonville doesn't resign Poz after this year. This team has alot of holes, but MLB isn't one of them. Like the Weenieworld article said, he's been the team's leading tackler the last four years. He is one of the players they should build this team around. The Jags' front office has actually made some good moves the past few years with picking up Bortles, Gerhart, Luke Joeckel, Allen Hurns and Allen Robinson. They would do well to keep Poz rather then try to replace him with a cheaper unproven commodity. Keep your proven talent and draft more offensive linemen; that's where they really need help.

Posluszny signed a deal which keeps him with the team through 2017.

Posluszny is a good, proven player, so this is a good move by the Jaguars.

By the way, Posluszny looks a little bit like Dudley Do-Right.
 

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Here's a pretty good post by bigunreal on the subject of white linebackers.

"You are correct- MLB was considered to be the "QB" of the defense, and thus it was about the last position on defense to go virtually all black. Even in the late '80s, one of the greatest of all Caste disciples, Buddy Ryan, kept a sole white at MLB (Mike Reichenbach) on his coal black defense. Presumably, he felt that none of his affletes was mentally equipped to call defensive signals. That was the thought process of a lot of coaches up until about twenty years ago.

Even in the '90s, another Caste legend, Jimmy Johnson, would install Zach Thomas at MLB on his coal black Dolphin teams. Overall, linebacker was the last position on defense to go majority black. The Steelers teams of the 1970s, for instance, featured almost all black defensive linemen and defensive backs, but until the last few years of their dynasty, they started a "snow patrol" of their own at linebacker (Russell, Lambert and Ham).

It's great to see some young white linebackers making an impact in the NFL, but there is still much discrimination going on. Bobby Carpenter, for instance, has never been given a chance to play despite being a first round draft pick by the Cowboys."
 

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Mack has more explosive ability and upside due to his black skin. #castelogic

I don't understand all the love for Mack. He turned in a pretty decent rookie season. 75 stops and 4 sacks is certainly nothing to sneeze at, but the fawning by the media is getting ridiculous. He recently got some dopey award and was named a top 100 player in the league. Really? Top 100 in the entire league? Are you serious?

just for comparison sake:
AJ Hawk's rookie season: 120 tkl, 3.5 sacks, 2 ints. I don't remember the media drooling over Hawk like they do for Mack.

James Laurinaitis: 120 tkl, 2 sacks, 2 int. I don't recall too much attention for JL either.
 

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Burris was a solid LB - I guess the raiders can only tolerate one white Defensive player on the roster at any one time because that coal black defense that trot out every year is just so dominating.

I agree, Burris is a very talented young LB. Hopefully someone picks him up.
- GB could use a starter next to Matthews.
- Maybe the Cardinals; hell, Daryl Washington is one joint away from a lifetime ban.
- Buffalo has nothing at LB.
 

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Pro Football Focus's very dubious "ratings" system had Burris as the worst linebacker in the league last season. That's pretty much finished Burris from ever being a starter again, and maybe even a backup.

As I've mentioned before, Pro Football Focus's ratings are treated by the sports media as if compiled by God himself. They seem quite subjective to me and appear to have the same racial bias as do the "scouting services." It's amazing how someone like Burris can make a lot of tackles yet still somehow grade out as horrible. Apparently tackling the man with the ball is no longer the main objective of defensive players.
 

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I don't understand all the love for Mack. He turned in a pretty decent rookie season. 75 stops and 4 sacks is certainly nothing to sneeze at, but the fawning by the media is getting ridiculous. He recently got some dopey award and was named a top 100 player in the league. Really? Top 100 in the entire league? Are you serious?

just for comparison sake:
AJ Hawk's rookie season: 120 tkl, 3.5 sacks, 2 ints. I don't remember the media drooling over Hawk like they do for Mack.

James Laurinaitis: 120 tkl, 2 sacks, 2 int. I don't recall too much attention for JL either.

To the mainstream media tackles by negroes are worth more than tackles by white men.

Thus, according to them, 75 is a larger number than 120 if the 75 refers to tackles by a negro and the 120 refers to tackles made by a white man.

It's simple mathematics.
 

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To the mainstream media tackles by negroes are worth more than tackles by white men.

Thus, according to them, 75 is a larger number than 120 if the 75 refers to tackles by a negro and the 120 refers to tackles made by a white man.

It's simple mathematics.

Yes, but they are more "explosive" and "fluid" when they tackle, don't you see. Their tackles are more likely to pass the eye test. There's more athleticism on display when they tackle.
 

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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/06/why_cleveland_browns_teammates.html

article on Browns OLB Scott Solomon. He has been jerked around the league since he was drafted in the 7th round a few years back. Sounds like he may challenge unlimited upside bust barkevios mingo for playing time in 2015.

Solomon was drafted in the 7th round of the 2012 draft. I've kind of kept an eye out for him as he's bounced around several different teams, never getting a fair shot.

Solomon tested out very well athletically before the draft, except for his 40 time. He tested out as as being very explosive.

He had good production at Rice. He should have been drafted rounds before he was.

It's the same old story for yet another white player, tests out well athletically, good producer in college, underdrafted or undrafted and never given a fair shot in the NFL.

If Solomon ever gets extended playing time he could do well but that's a big if.
 

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So according to Mark Sessler of NFL.com, AJ Hawk will not start in Cinncinatti. Apparently, Emmanuel Lemur will start beside Maualuga and Burfict. It's probably just a propaganda piece, because he certainly doesn't go into much detail. Funny thing is, I would say Hawk is capable of taking the starting job from any one of the three.

What's equally amusing though, is that the idiot fans are pretty much in agreement, and by most accounts label Hawk a bust. Yes, a bust... It's understandable though, because on Hawk's profile page on Rotoworld, they go so far as to say that he has been a disappointment for most of his career in Green Bay. Really? Well, lets take a look at Hawk's body of work;

9 year starter on one of the best teams in the league. 920 tackles, 19 sacks, 9 int. I'm not saying he's he best LB in the league, but damn, what else do they want from him?

Just as a point of reference, lets look at the 'great' Patrick Willis' stats: 8 years, 950 tackles, 20.5 sacks, 8 int. Now, I will say that Willis is the better player, but remember, Hawk never had the luxury of playing behind Justin Smith, or with any competent defender other than Clay Matthews.

The question is how can two players have virtually the same stats, but one is considered a future hall of famer, and the other labeled a bust?

Even under Marvin Lewis, there's no way Hawk is a backup.
 

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Solomon was drafted in the 7th round of the 2012 draft. I've kind of kept an eye out for him as he's bounced around several different teams, never getting a fair shot.

Solomon tested out very well athletically before the draft, except for his 40 time. He tested out as as being very explosive.

He had good production at Rice. He should have been drafted rounds before he was.

It's the same old story for yet another white player, tests out well athletically, good producer in college, underdrafted or undrafted and never given a fair shot in the NFL.

If Solomon ever gets extended playing time he could do well but that's a big if.


I've followed Solomon as well. The Titans had another very impressive DE/LB on the roster when they drafted Solomon. Does anybody remember Dave Ball? He had a few good seasons in Tenn. then suddenly disappeared.

Under Jeff Fisher, the Titans seemed to always have a handful of white defenders that would have an impressive season or two, then just vanish. Ball... Peter Sirmon... Brad Kassell... Ryan Fowler... Rocky Boiman... What happened to these guys?
 

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Dave Ball was a solid player when he finally got decent playing time after 4 years in the league. I hope Solomon has the same career trajectory.

The Titans did have rien long, rocky calmus, rocky boiman, Peter sirmon, Kyle vanden Bosch and Donnie Nickey as a wstd. They had the just above average steve McNair and Eddie George which made them not so enjoyable to watch though as they always gor all of the accolades.
 

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So according to Mark Sessler of NFL.com, AJ Hawk will not start in Cinncinatti. Apparently, Emmanuel Lemur will start beside Maualuga and Burfict. It's probably just a propaganda piece, because he certainly doesn't go into much detail. Funny thing is, I would say Hawk is capable of taking the starting job from any one of the three.

What's equally amusing though, is that the idiot fans are pretty much in agreement, and by most accounts label Hawk a bust. Yes, a bust... It's understandable though, because on Hawk's profile page on Rotoworld, they go so far as to say that he has been a disappointment for most of his career in Green Bay. Really? Well, lets take a look at Hawk's body of work;

9 year starter on one of the best teams in the league. 920 tackles, 19 sacks, 9 int.
I'm not saying he's he best LB in the league, but damn, what else do they want from him?

Just as a point of reference, lets look at the 'great' Patrick Willis' stats: 8 years, 950 tackles, 20.5 sacks, 8 int. Now, I will say that Willis is the better player, but remember, Hawk never had the luxury of playing behind Justin Smith, or with any competent defender other than Clay Matthews.

The question is how can two players have virtually the same stats, but one is considered a future hall of famer, and the other labeled a bust?

Even under Marvin Lewis, there's no way Hawk is a backup.

Great post. Hawk is not superstar, but he was a very solid LB for nearly a decade.

Another name to add to the long list of white defenders that played great for the Titans (only to dissapear) is former Iowa DT, Karl Klug. The guy was a monster as a rookie in 2011 (as a little-used reserve, no less) and has been relegated to the bench for the subsequent 3 seasons. Let's hope he'll get another chance to shine in 2015. At least he seems to have a nice personal life...

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Miles Burris was a starter last year for the Raiders but was released. No one has picked him up yet.

Burris had over 25 more tackles than Khalil Mack, who is being lauded as a great player. Burris is white, Mack is black.

It's hard to believe that Burris isn't good enough to even be a reserve in the NFL.
 

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Luke Kuechly still out with a concussion. Borland retired because of concerns about concussions.

I hope Kuechly doesn't end up with a recurring problem.
 

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Miles Burris was a starter last year for the Raiders but was released. No one has picked him up yet.

Burris had over 25 more tackles than Khalil Mack, who is being lauded as a great player. Burris is white, Mack is black.

It's hard to believe that Burris isn't good enough to even be a reserve in the NFL.

Miles Burris still hasn't been signed by an NFL team. On merit he belongs on a roster somewhere.

Maybe he has some injury issue. If there isn't one his not being signed is clear cut proof of an anti-white bias in the NFL.
 

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I'm not sure of the status of Scooby Wright. Last I heard he had been released by the Cardinals.

I remain convinced that he's good enough to play in the league.
 
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Here's a head-count of White LB's on active 53-man rosters. There's currently 56 White Linebackers on active rosters, that's out of roughly 220 LB's on active rosters. This makes the LB position about 25% White this year, i'm guessing 25% is on par with previous seasons. Note: I've included players on IR who could possibly return.
AFC-
Matt Milano Bills
Tanner Vallejo Bills
Mike Hull Dolphins
Kiko Alonso Dolphins
Chase Allen
Dolphins
Trevor Reilly Patriots (Promoted from PS)
Shea McClellin (IR) Patriots
Dylan Donahue Jets
Nick Vigil Bengals
Tank Carder (IR) Browns
Joe Schobert Browns
Tyler Matakevich Steelers
Tj Watt Steelers
Anthony Chickillo Steelers
Brian Cushing Texans
Brian Peters Texans
Ben Heeney Texans
John Simon Colts
Paul Posluzny Jaguars
Frank Zombo Chiefs
Kyle Emanuel Chargers
Nick Dzubnar Chargers
James Cowser Raiders

NFC-
Sean Lee
Cowboys
Mark Herzilich (IR) Giants
Calvin Munson Giants
Joe Walker Eagles
Nate Gerry Eagles (Promoted from PS)
Ryan Kerrigan Redskins
Will Compton Redskins
Trent Murphy (IR) Redskins
Nick Kwiatkowski Bears
Nick Bellore Lions
Paul Worrilow Lions
Blake Martinez Packers
Jake Ryan Packers
Clay Matthews Packers
Vince Biegel Packers (Set to return from IR)
Kyler Fackrell Packers
Ben Gedeon Vikings
Jordan Tripp Falcons
Luke Kuechly Panthers
David Mayo Panthers
Ben Jacobs Panthers
Andrew Gachkar Panthers (Recent signing)
Jared Norris Panthers
Alex Anzalone Saints
Michael Mauti Saints
Aj Klein Saints
Nate Stupar (IR) Saints
Riley Bullough Buccaneers (Promote from PS)
Scooby Wright Cardinals
Bryce Hager Rams
Connor Barwin Rams
Matt Longacre Rams
Brock Coyle 49ers
 
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Tyler Matakevich and Scooby Wright were extremely productive linebackers in college. They were downgraded in the 2016 draft class because of their supposed lack of athleticism. They both ended up being drafted in the 7th round.

Yet black linebackers with lower SPARQ scores than Matakevich and Wright were drafted ahead of them in 2016. For example Antonio Morrison was drafted in the fourth round and Kentrell Brothers in the 5th round. SPARQ scores are a measure of athleticism.

The mainstream media never criticized Morrison or Brothers for their lack of athleticism, only Matakevich and Wright. This is an example of how the mainstream media treats White athletes differently and worse.
 

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AJ Klein placed on IR. Weenieworld providing it's expert "analysis" and it's obvious they did not watch a snap of the Saints defense this year. They were totally improved because of Klein who was all over the place making plays. The Saints have been one of the most laughable defenses in the league the past 3 or 4 years and Klein comes in and an immediate improvement was made. Weenieworld just steals "analysis" from other sites - truly the basis of fake news.


Saints placed LB A.J. Klein (groin) on injured reserve, ending his season.

Klein hadn't played since injuring his groin in Week 14. The Saints signed TE John Phillips in the corresponding roster move. Klein struggled in his first year with New Orleans, earning PFF's second-worst grade among 4-3 outside linebackers.
 
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