Vitali Klitschko vs. Cristobal Arreola

[whiteathlete33]

Surprising thing is Vitali looked in even better shape and more cut than his previous. I wonder who he is going to fight next as there is noone out there. I remember someone mentioning on this site a while back that the only fighter they think has a chance of beating Vitali is Arreola.
Here is a look at some of the Great Black Nopes in the heavyweight division. Eddie Chambers is a short quick guy who already lost to Povetkin, has no power, and his biggest win is against Dimitrenko. He has no chance in the division.

Next you have David Haye who talks alot but shows no action. I would expect him to get knocked out by Vitali or Wlad in less than 6 rounds.

Kevin Johnson is the so called next Great Black Nope. He is undefeated but has no power at all. Two other highly ranked blacks are Lamon Brewster and James Toney. No explanation needed on these two fighters as they are absolute jokes. Which one will Vitali fight next?

Edited by: whiteathlete33

 

[Charles Martel]

There's a caste article by Michael Rosenthal on the Ring website today:

Jewish boxing writer calls Vitali boring

He doesn't deny that Vitali was very effective last night. If he were to deny Vitali fought effectively, he'd have looked stupid and biased even to the most naive reader! But the central theme of the article is "Klitschko is boring". He ended the article with that comment, as if he wants to leave the readers with that thought.

Rosenthal's comments about Vitali's style is a subtle and effective attack on the white fighter's popularity. In virtually every Jewish-authored article, they'll either say the heavyweight division is no good or the Klitschkos are boring. They obviously don't want the white boxers to be popular, because they don't want white kids to have strong role models to look up to!

Rosenthal is a manipulative liar, the truth is Vitali is one of the most unique and exciting fighters in boxing! Unlike Mayweather he was going for the KO in the 9th and 10th rounds last night instead of just a decision.

Edited by: Parody

 

[whiteathlete33]

Parody this is my earlier post from last night right after the fight.


"The media will say this was another boring fight by the Klitschko's and that there is not talent in the heavyweight division. Next they will be hyping up Kevin Johnson and Eddie Chambers as the fighters who will beat the Klitschko's. They will be dissapointed again."

I knew it was going to happen!

Also these stupid writers are ridiculous for even comparing a fighter like Vitali to Mayweather. Of course Mayweather can move around the ring better because he is 100 pounds lighter and a foot shorter. I would like to see these idiots name one fighter in heavyweight history of Vitali or Wladimir's size who can move as well as they do. Why aren't these two fighters called the baddest men on the planet like Tyson was?Edited by: whiteathlete33

 

[sport historian]

The amazing thing is that Vitali Klitschko could leave boxing for 4 years and come back and win title fights at age 38. This is unprecedented. Vitali is something of a 6-7 version of Gene Tunney. Before the Klitschko brothers, fighters of that size were usually awkward brawlers.

 

[space hillbilly]

My observations:

Buffer announces that Arreoloa is proud to fight for his Mexican-American heritage. What about just fighting for the USA? They do not announce Vitali is fighting on behalf of his Ukrainian heritage or the Ukraine?

The coverage was better than usual, but there was enough of the 'Arreola could wear Vitali down in the later rounds..' stuff to keep it 'balanced.' At one point they even said that anything can happen and it's possible Arreola could still pull off the upset. I'm like if Lewis can't knock him out this guy isn't going to.

They did question if the Klitschkos would be this vilified if they were American. He asked something like if they were from Kansas, or South Carolina, etc, would people still be questioning their style, etc.

I did enjoy Lampley's speech at the end: the Klitschko brothers are 365 days a year guys; they don't take time off. If you're a heavyweight and you want to challenge the brothers, you can't think you can take 10 days off to party and relax and get back to training, because you will NEVER beat one of the brothers with that attitude.

Vitali has never been down in a fight. He has never been BEHIND in a fight. His only losses are by injury or cut. He has the greatest knockout percentage of any heavyweight in history. If that doesn't justify consideration for the greatest fighter in heavyweight history I don't know what will.

I try to tell people these two guys are true Renaissance men if there ever was such a thing. PhD's, four languages, sponsor charities, AND they hold all four heavyweight boxing titles between them! I don't know what else a guy should have to do to be loved and admired by people.

he must turn black.

 

[White Shogun]

If Vitali was black, he'd be praised endlessly for his footwork and ability to avoid taking a punch. If he were a black American he'd be on the cover of magazines and invited on every late night talk show. He'd be the face of boxing.

Fact.

 

[whiteathlete33]

I am still curious how much respect he would get if he were a white American. He would probably be in the same position he is now with hateful articles about him popping up everywhere.

One thing that I must say is that Arreola should be ashamed of himself coming into the fight looking like he does. He looked terrible in the ring last night and wasn't able to generate any offense at all. Even with the fight in the US two judges only gave him one round.

 

[white lightning]

I am so proud of what these guys have done. It has been an honor to watch them fight. They show the whole world that you can be the best at what you do but still do it with honor, class and integrity. They are in a league all by themselves. It makes me so angry that the fans, and the media treat them with very little respect. They hate these guys. The jealousy is so obvious. They cannot stand having a white heavyweight champion. Even if they were from the US, it wouldn't make much difference. It comes down to the color of their skin period! Keep making us proud Vitali and Wladimir. You guys are the best!

Long live the Klitschko Brothers. Maybe they will make a movie about them someday. Even if it has to be made in Europe. Congrats on another dominating performance!

 

[moose]

he does remind me of the great gene tunney, good point sport historian

 

[whiteathlete33]

Vitali and Wladimir have accomplished more in their careers than any black heavyweight. Wladimir lost to Lamon Brewster and avenged his loss. Vitali is in a class of his own. The only thing left is for the two brothers to fight themselves. It will probably never happen nor do I want it to. This is what everyone is asking for at this point.

Final punch stats: 301-86

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gppCc4CglBDgukprQRvA_UfEZ5NAD9AVROJ80Edited by: whiteathlete33

 

[space hillbilly]

Is vitali geting bigger? i've seen maybe ten articies saying vitali is 6'8" now. he was 6'7". is he growing at 38? i believe the big media is trying to make vitali out to be unfarly advantaged over his opponents...

 

[whiteathlete33]

That is not a significant difference. Same thing applies in the NFL or NCAA. Some guys are listed as being taller than they really are. Who cares about his size?Where are all the Lebron James types that can defeat him? Just listen to James Toney. According to him the Great White Hope still applies. As if all these Europeans aren't white.Edited by: whiteathlete33

 

[Charles Martel]

There's a good-quality video for downloading here:

Vitali vs. Arreola HBO

After downloading it, you can play it in Windows Media Player, RealPlayer, KMPlayer, etc.

 

[Blue Devils]

Thanks for the link

 

[Alpha Male]

Vitali brought Arreola to tears. The man cried and repeatedlty said "f**k." I'm all for passion, but compare the way Vitali conducted himself - selflessly praising the young heavyweight, saying he would be champion some day - to the way Arreloa did. It's also tellingto compare Vitali's stoicism and humilty to Ali's arrogance and brashness. I guess selflessness and humilty are unimportant values in NWO America whichespouses selfishness and indulgence. Edited by: Alpha Male

 

[Alpha Male]

Vitali looked in better shape and executed better form than when he fought Corrie Sanders. He could be the white George Foreman, figting competively into his forties, but has stated that he does not want to fight too much longer. Edited by: Alpha Male

 

[Don Wassall]

Vitali brought Arreola to tears. The man cried and repeatedlty said "f**k." I'm all for passion, but compare the way Vitali conducted himself - selflessly praising the young heavyweight, saying he would be champion some day - to the way Arreloa did. It's also tellingto compare Vitali's stoicism and humilty to Ali's arrogance and brashness. I guess selflessness and humilty are unimportant values in NWO America whichespouses selfishness and indulgence.

Arreola reminded me of the way so many American men are nowadays -- profane and weepy, whereas women tend to be just profane. Letting the f-bombs fly was classless, but what's even more telling is that no one in the crowd seemed to mind, and HBO certainly wasn't interested in bleeping them out.

 

[The Hock]

Vitali is something of a 6-7 version of Gene Tunney. Before the Klitschko brothers, fighters of that size were usually awkward brawlers.

Right on. You truly are the Sports Historian.

I was watching the fight and wondering who Klitchko reminded me of, but I couldn't quite make the connection. After reading your post I watched a Youtube clip of Tunney-Dempsey, and the similarity to Klitchko-Arreola is striking. Almost eerie to watch. Same blueprint and execution of intelligent boxing tactics.

History does indeed repeat itself.Edited by: The Hock

 

[j41181]

I am in shock everytime I read an article on the Klitchkos that is written by an American sports writer. It always ends up saying the same thing. 'Weak heavyweight division' and 'boring fighters'. I am pretty sure there has not been a boxer in history that would be able to beat these guys as they are now. They never even get hit anymore. They deal out so much punishment and rarely get touched now. They have honed their skills to almost boxing perfection, kinda like Mayweather. I guess after they retire some thug or trash talker will take over and all of a sudden we will have a "great champ" again all of a sudden the competition will be much better than when the Klitchkos ruled the division."

This is totally the case. I am an avid boxing fan with boxing experience. I have seen the classic Ali, Fraiser, Louis, Lewis, Tyson, Patterson, Marciano, Bowe, Holyfield, etc....they will not an cannot defeat the Klitchko's at their prime. Too big, strong, and know how to box with the Defense of Pernell Whitaker, precision of a prime Roy Jones, ring generalship of Bernard Hopkins and please pay attention to their knockout rate. I rest my case....amazing performance by Vitali.

Thank you Vitali for your accomplishments. As a white man you make me very proud. In this country (USA) of people with no manners it is considered wrong to be white and proud. This is why the boxing fans are not showing any respect to you. If you were any other race they would have a parade for you and walk up and down the main drag trying to rub it in. My turn......Ukranian fighter Vitali Klitchko kicked the Caste lover's best fighters asses and taught them all some manners!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU, now many white kids have someone to be proud of that demands respect.Edited by: j41181

 

[Don Wassall]

For all those who get down, understandably so,because of everythingwe see grotesquely tilted against whites every day in every wayincluding sports, just remember we are in the golden age of White quarterbacks in spite of every resource and trickof the Caste establishment working against it, and we are in a golden age of White boxers, especially the Klitschkos. I am not a boxing expert but from what I've seen and read I can certainly see the point of view that the Klitschko brothers may be the best heavyweight boxersever. Not only that they are impeccable role models, Renaissance Men of the highest caliber.

The current White dominance in boxing was inconceivable a few years ago. Every Sunday, a number of White men at the most important position in sports in the U.S. make mincemeat of the Big Lie that blacks are the best athletes. Even in an age when technology is used primarily to spread lies and distortions, the stark realities of life can still be seen in the physical realm of sports. The Caste System and the Cultural Marxism thatundergirds itis more difficult to maintain in the physical realm than it is the propaganda realm. The zeitgeist is changing rapidly, and not in ways that favor the Empire.

 

[indianwhite]

The pro-American heavyweight nonsense that was brought up after the fight on HBO is old and tiresome. Who cares where a fighter is from? That's never an issue in any of the other major sports. The fact is neither Wladimir or Vitali Klitschko have ducked a single fighter since they've been on top. That's all that real boxing observers can ask for along with them always showing up in great shape and putting forth their best effort. And that's never been an issue for either of the Klitschko brothers.

 

[sport historian]

It is strange to see the argument that the Klitschko brothers aren't big stars because they are not Americans. I have written before on the Forum that it was considered a big boost for boxing when Ingemar Johansson of Sweden won the heavyweight title in 1959. It was usually unspoken but taken for granted that a white heavyweight champion was a good thing, even if he was not American. This is a difference between 1959 and 2009.

I have a question. Suppose the Klitschkos were white Americans. How big a difference would that make?

 

[whiteathlete33]

Klitschko fights smart and doesn't get hit. Noone wants permanent brain damage from boxing. All one has to do is watch the Bowe Vs Golota fights. Bowe was fine until these two fights. Golota landed so many heavy punches that Bowe had permanent brain damage. You could tell by his speech.

 

[StarWars]

It is strange to see the argument that the Klitschko brothers aren't big stars because they are not Americans. I have written before on the Forum that it was considered a big boost for boxing when Ingemar Johansson of Sweden won the heavyweight title in 1959. It was usually unspoken but taken for granted that a white heavyweight champion was a good thing, even if he was not American. This is a difference between 1959 and 2009.

I have a question. Suppose the Klitschkos were white Americans. How big a difference would that make?

No way to know. They would certainly be more liked, but nowhere as famous as Mike Tyson or Ali. Most people can accept tht Brock Lesnar is the champ, so maybe the Klitschkos would be liked. As of now they are relatively unknown though.

As far as strength goes most white people are aware that whites can be strong. Even though we are on average much taller, bigger, and stronger than blacks (including American whites vs. blacks), most people would also say that blacks are still the strongest. Weird how that happens. Most people cannot accept that we are as athletic as blacks (or more so because we don't just specialize in sports).

Boxing has as many Jews as football in its ranks. And the Klitschko's are Russians and related to he evil Bolsheviks, so maybe even worse than the Nazis. But then again the Nazis are the ones universally hated for killing Jews despite more Jews fighting for the Nazis than the US just to combat the Bolsheviks. So I have no idea about the Klitschkos, tough question. All we know is that if they were black, people would know them.

 

[Blue Devils]

Maskaev might be next for Vitali

Klitschko vs Maskaev or Johnson next for December

He may be older, at age 38, than his younger brother at age 33, but doesn't stop WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko from being a very active fighter. He stopped mandatory Juan Carlos Gomez in nine rounds in March, then last weekend he stopped unbeaten Chris Arreola after ten, and now Vitali looks to return on the tentative date of December 12 in Germany.

There are two names being mentioned for the opponent's position. Former champion Oleg Maskaev and undefeated Kevin Johnson (22-0, 9KOs). A few months ago Klitschko went through an arbitration with the WBC to avoid a mandated fight with Maskaev. The sanctioning body tried to make him fight two mandatories in back to back fashion. Vitali won and went forward with the title defense against Arreola. Maskaev is still there and still waiting. Vitali has to fight him sooner or later.

Kevin Johnson is another name at the top of Vitali's list. Johnson can box and actually has a two-inch reach advantage on Klitschko. He lacks a punch with only 9KOs on his record. Johnson has less experience in big fights than Arreola and he's four inches shorter. A fight with Maskaev is a slaughter. The "Big O," at age 40, has seen much better days. I can't see Johnson doing any better than Gomez or Arreola. The options are pretty slim at the moment.