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Spain, Portugal and Germany have all white strikers, don't they?

you're right, i said "europe" but i was thinking about the most anti white countries, france and england
it's obvious that there is some sort of pressure when one of those teams play with only white strikers
you can see it the way carroll is treated while blacks like heskey got unlimited credit
and crough is not even in the team, if he was black he would be in the team i believe
same thing in france, we didn't take gameiro in our team, because we already have 1 white striker
 

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From Britain's Guardian newspaper:

During Saturday's Spain-France borefest, a Spanish politican, one Elena Valenciano, vice-secretary of the Spanish Socialsit Party (PSOE), no less, thought it would be a good idea to tweet: "Have you ever seen a guy as ugly as Franck Ribéry?"

When it was explained to her by many irate tweeters that Ribéry sustained that scar across his face in a car crash when he was two, she hastily bleated taht "I didn't know" before withdrawing her comment and apologising. Which poses two questions: if she accepts that it is poor form to ridicule people over looks that result from an accident, why does she think it's OK to ridicule people over looks that result from birth?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/25/euro-2012-live-blog

BTW that post was at 4pm. If you click on the link right underneath it at 3.54pm there is a comment about Olivier Giroud going to Arsenal.
 

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From Britain's Guardian newspaper:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/25/euro-2012-live-blog

BTW that post was at 4pm. If you click on the link right underneath it at 3.54pm there is a comment about Olivier Giroud going to Arsenal.

the kabyles are extremely ugly too, always, from benzema to zidane

regarding giroud, the hardest part starts for him
everyone in france hope he will be a flop

I would agree regarding Carroll. He doesn't seem to have a good touch

another thing about carroll
in europe there are very few players who coud do that to john terry:

[video=youtube_share;32JOYJpHgLI]http://youtu.be/32JOYJpHgLI[/video]

http://youtu.be/X9OJ8789i2A
 

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Italy's basic problem is the lack of firepower. They just don't have a enough clinical finishers like Vieri or Inzaghi to deliver the goals. There's Di Natale, but they keep on going with Balotelli even though he's failed. Either with his club form or record with Italy, and especially the Euro Cup games so far, Balotelli has NOT earned his spot in Italy's squad. He's only got 3 goals in 17 caps for Italy.


actually he has only 2 goals, one in a friendly match against poland and one in these eurochamps against ireland already out of the competition and down to 10 men
 

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I agree Carroll should be given a chance. I think he is more mobile and skilled than people think just as Frederic38 showed.I hope they don't just kick it long to him like they did in the Italy game, since Wilshere is going to be their playmaker. Crosses are ok, but no long balls.

Crouch has scored 22 goals in 42 games for England and he didn't even start all those games. he only has 18 starts for England. He is the most underrated player.
 

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I’m eagerly awaiting Thursday’s match between Italy and Germany, as it should be quite a thriller. The last time these two sides met in any meaningful capacity was in the semifinal round of the 2006 World Cup Finals (a 2-0 victory for Italy during extra time), a tournament that was eventually won by the Italians on penalty kicks after a 1-1 draw with France in the Finals…a match which featured the infamous “Zidane Headbutt.â€

The only remaining holdovers from the 2006 German World Cup roster that are still featured on the Euro 2012 roster are Bastian Schweinsteiger, Lukas Podolski, Phillip Lahm, Per Mertesacker, and Miroslav Klose. For the Italians, only the goalkeeper, Buffon, and midfielders De Rossi and Pirlo remain from that 2006 contest with Germany.

Joachim Löw is an utterly unpredictable manager, particularly so with concern to his choice in starting lineups. Will he start the 34-year old legend, Klose (with a 64 goals in 120 caps), or the Bundesliga’s top striker, Mario Gomez? Or, given the limited effectiveness of Podolski and Muller, will he break from his “4-2-3-1†formation and start both strikers? Will he start the faster Marco Reus, or remain loyal to Podolski?

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CAPTION: Der Meister

Will he start the bigger, stronger, faster, more athletic, more intelligent, more creative left back, Lars Bender (who even scored in his first start against Denmark), in place of the slow-footed, mistake-prone, clumsy, conceited, troublesome, goal-yielding, mudshark-hunting black oaf, Jerome Boateng?

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CAPTION: Black Brat Boateng Burned Badly

Assuming Boateng doesn’t start come Thursday (which is quite the assumption, given Löw's rediculous loyalty to this living-pustule), the German side will still feature two non-whites in their starting eleven (Ozil and Khedira). Ozil is certainly talented (though slightly overrated because of his Turkish heritage), but Khedira could easily be replaced by the underrated Toni Kroos.

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CAPTION: Lords-O-Gayness in Metrosexual Garb

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CAPTION: New-Age “Germans†Sully White Nation

Unfortunately, those who follow Die Nationalmannschaft know full well the quantity of carefully-assorted scum-lappers (blacks, Turks, Arabs, Muslims, and other mongrels like Sami Khedira’s spectacularly-hideous brother, “Raniâ€) that the German national soccer team has waiting in their U-17 and U-21 squads. When the time comes to promote these turds, I’ll be rooting against them as hard as I do England, France, the Netherlands, and Jurgen Klinsmann’s ever-darkening US(S)A monstrosity.

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CAPTION: Rani Khedira w/ Sami's Mudshark Girlfriend, Lena
 

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Will he start the 34-year old legend, Klose (with a 64 goals in 120 caps), or the Bundesliga’s top striker, Mario Gomez? Or, given the limited effectiveness of Podolski and Muller, will he break from his “4-2-3-1â€￾ formation and start both strikers?

starting both gomez and klose is imposible because they have the same profile (both are old fashioned strikers with great heading ability)
since klose was titular in the last match (vs greece) and he didn't disappoint (1 goal) i think that he is going to start the match

khedira's brother is disgusting
even more disgusting is the kedhira-(fake) blonde german girlfriend - couple
the media never loses an occasion to show a picture of these two


if boateng starts i will support italy, there is NO WAY boateng can start ahead of bender after his very disapointing showings full of amateurial mistakes ( http://www.castefootball.us/forums/threads/14615-UEFA-EURO-2012?p=250793&viewfull=1#post250793 ) , while bender did well and even scored in the only match he started
 

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Will he start the 34-year old legend, Klose (with a 64 goals in 120 caps), or the Bundesliga’s top striker, Mario Gomez? Or, given the limited effectiveness of Podolski and Muller, will he break from his “4-2-3-1â€￾ formation and start both strikers?
starting both gomez and klose is imposible because they have the same profile (both are old fashioned strikers with great heading ability)...
I would agree. If you play with 2 forwards, you typically field a "fast guy"-"big guy" partnership (like England tried with the Rooney-Carroll combination on Sunday) or a creator/goalscorer combo (as when for example Napoli FC plays plays with the Lavezzi/Cavani duo). Having 2 players of a very similar profile does not make much sense.
In addition, this would leave your middlefield with 1 player less which may cost you dearly in a game with a team like Italy.
 

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Thrashen, I think you'll be happy to know, that right now, Germany's U-21 only has one black and no Turks on it. The one black, Mlapa, has no chance of getting up to the German national team. I get what you mean though, I've seen their U-17 team, and it's disgusting, I think it has something like 2 blacks and 2-3 turks starting on it at the last world cup. Not surprisingly, they sucked, and I don't think they made it out of the group stage.

I agree, there is no way Boateng should be starting for Germany. He is such a disgrace to the national team. A few people at the forum BigSoccer still think Boateng should start. Here is one quote that I saw after a few people suggested Bender start against Italy: "Boateng will start, he just gave up a random goal. He's okay." :frusty: Really? He gave up two goals for one thing as well. I hope he says that when Boateng gives up the game-winning goal against Spain.
 

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some footage of our lovely french suporters in paris after the france-spain match:

[video=youtube_share;57RPUql5Jac]http://youtu.be/57RPUql5Jac[/video]
 

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frederic38 said:
didn't get the censored word

frederic -

The censored word was merde... :icon_eek:

Matra2 said:
Rebaljo - I only saw one entire match involving Poland and I actually thought they played quite well. They lacked precision upfront but otherwise they looked like a handy team. Mind you, the match I saw was against Russia so it is possible that non-football issues provided them with extra motivation in that match.

Matra2 -

The match against Russia was Poland's best effort (which isn't saying much...) but it also revealed a lot about the negative, minimalist approach of manager Franciszek "Dyzma" Smuda and, to a lesser but still considerable extent, the players. If You are wondering why I (and half of Poland) refer to Smuda as "Dyzma", have a squiz beneath the "Legacy" rubric of the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Career_of_Nicodemus_Dyzma

Now, where do I begin?

After being named national team manager, Smuda vowed that he wouldn't seek to naturalise foreigners, but intended to use exclusively Polish players. Of course, I knew that this was simply bull**** talk for the benefit of the gullible fans and, sure enough, Poland ended up starting two Frenchmen plus Germany rejects Eugen Polanski and Sebastian Boenisch in all of their Euro 2012 matches.

That Smuda called these four up was bad enough, but to make things even worse he displayed potentially squad-cleaving favouritism by blindly handing them automatic first team places. In the case of Boenisch - whose performances at Euro 2012 were quite lamentable - Smuda's faith attained a ridiculous level of parody as the German (sorry, Pole...) hadn't played for virtually 19 months following a knee injury, only returning to club duty with Werder Bremen at the end of March. He played a total of 122 minutes last season, yet never left the field for the duration of all three matches despite some less than stellar showings.

While Smuda was running his mouth about using only 100% Poles he also vowed not to call up players who weren't receiving regular club football. I guess that's why he selected Pawel Brozek, a fellow who has spent all of this year on the bench and in the stands at Celtic, on loan from Trabzonspor (where he made bugger all appearances as well). Brozek was the "second striker" Smuda sent on for the final 17 minutes against the Czech Republic, immediately after Poland fell behind to Petr Jiracek's goal. You may recall that Poland required a win to progress to the quarter finals stage...

Well, unfortunately something has just come up, so I'll have to finish for now. I'll conclude my analysis of Poland's miserable "campaign" later...
 

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Right, I'm back. Now, where were we? Ah, yes, "favouritism"...

In yet another display of blatant favouritism, Smuda stuck with an abjectly ineffective Rafal Murawski - who he had managed at Lech Poznan - in midfield. Murawski, of course, was the bloke who gave the ball away to the Czechs in a schoolboy mistake which was the first step of the sequence which ultimately led to their goal... :censored:

The first match against Greece was going well (apart from ominously squandering all of those early potential scoring chances) - until the Greeks had a player undeservedly sent off. I instantly felt my guts churn because I knew exactly what would transpire. The pressure of being a goal up and playing in front of their home crowd in the opening match of the European Championship was suddenly increased a hundredfold by being a man up, with a convincing victory now being 100% expected. This proved too much and everything fell apart almost instantly.

If Przemyslaw Tyton hadn't saved that penalty in his first action after coming on for the red-carded Wojciech Szczesny, the match would have been lost (z kretesem, as one would add in Polish...). Notwithstanding the tactical anarchy on the field, Smuda changed absolutely nothing and failed to make any substitutions, instead gnawing his filthy nails and praying that the Greeks wouldn't score again. There's nothing like top-draw tactical "nous"...

Now on to the Russia match, which the media naturally wound up to a matter of life or death (this, of course, was true from both a football and "historical" perspective...:icon_wink:). Too bad that Smuda was more interested in avoiding defeat than winning in front of our own fans on the world stage, for he put out the same side which failed miserably against Greece, with the enforced change of Tyton for Szczesny in addition to replacing Maciej Rybus with the ultra defensive midfielder / defender Dariusz Dudka.

Once the scores were level the Russians looked tired and were pretty much there for the taking, but the nutless Smuda opted for a "low risk" approach to hold on to the draw rather than try to go for a win. He sent on that worthless prick Brozek in the final minute - and that was just to run down the clock. Based on the ****ing national jubilation which followed this poxy draw, one could have been mistaken in thinking Poland had actually won the tournament...for the second time running...

The final game provided the proverbial "must win" scenario. As an added bonus, the Czechs were weakened by the absence of the injured Tomas Rosicky so Poland's task was made a bit easier. So, the scene was set, eh?

This was without doubt Poland's biggest game since the 1982 World Cup semifinal: hosting the European Championship and needing to win in front of a huge home crowd to progress to the quarterfinals. Now, how does that soft **** Smuda approach this "win at all costs" match? Why, how else than by starting exactly the same ****ing defensive team and exactly the same defensive formation as he employed in the match against Russia! Thank God that I didn't bother to go out and watch this ****e live, for I knew what was coming - it's simply not worth the aggravation...

Oh, yes, did I mention that Smuda used the right-back Marcin Wasilewski as a central defender for the entire tournament? Or that he failed to give Legia Warszawa's 19-year old attacking midfielder Rafal Wolski (see video below - just make sure to mute the "music") a run?

[video=youtube;co9uy0k4wG4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co9uy0k4wG4[/video]

Following Poland's elimination, Smuda blithely stated that at least we didn't cop any four or five nil thrashings. Well, I think that I'll just end my post here, as I'm getting way too pissed off to write any more. No wonder my girlfriend always says that football is bad for my health...
 

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Rebajlo, while i full heartedly agree with you on most of your points (don't get me started on Murawski - Matuszczyk or Borysiuk, hell, anyone else would have been better!) i can't comprehend your hatred towards our stranieri. they are all white, they all have Polish roots, they try and speak some Polish, which is not an easy feat, and they are very good players. you can't complain about Perquis or Polanski, and Boenisch, for a guy after such a heavy and long injury did quite well (albeit looking stiff and slowish). Polanski played real well, with lots of heart, same as Perquis.

Brozek... i can't understand why he was even on this team, he's done for!

other than Murawski and Brozek, i thought Smuda actually did a good job selecting players, too bad he is too stupid of a coach to actually plan a winning tactics and too cowardly to try and attack!
 

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Rebajlo, while i full heartedly agree with you on most of your points (don't get me started on Murawski - Matuszczyk or Borysiuk, hell, anyone else would have been better!) i can't comprehend your hatred towards our stranieri. they are all white, they all have Polish roots, they try and speak some Polish, which is not an easy feat, and they are very good players. you can't complain about Perquis or Polanski, and Boenisch, for a guy after such a heavy and long injury did quite well (albeit looking stiff and slowish). Polanski played real well, with lots of heart, same as Perquis.

Brozek... i can't understand why he was even on this team, he's done for!

other than Murawski and Brozek, i thought Smuda actually did a good job selecting players, too bad he is too stupid of a coach to actually plan a winning tactics and too cowardly to try and attack!

perquis is a warrior, he had a very good tournament as far as i know
i would have loved to have him in the french team

beating czech republic should have been possible for the polish team though
 

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Rebaljo - interesting info on Poland.

As an aside when I was in
Poland earlier this year I watched a Polish league match on TV at a local pub. I was astonished by the poor condition of the pitch. It was waterlogged with sections of total mud. Almost every time the ball landed it would stop on the spot. I'd never seen a football match - even in an amateur league - played in such conditions. This being a televised match in a big stadium - not amateur lower division stuff - it gave me a bad impression of the local league.

BTW I never saw the Harnas beer that is on your avatar. It was all Tyskie and Zywiec.
 

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Here we go. Respect diversity statements from the captains before the start. Casillas said Spain owes its success to diversity!:icon_rolleyes:
 
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Here we go. Respect diversity statements from the captains before the start. Casillas said Spain owes its success to diversity!:icon_rolleyes:

In fact it is true. Spain owes it success to white European and more specifically Spanish diversity, the only true and real diversity. Spain has a team composed of players from many different Spanish regions.

I've also always been impressed by White diversity : black hair to white blond or dark brown eyes to blue ones.
 

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Quote of the day: Sami Nasri to the media



(Not sure if he said it in English or if that is a translation from French!)

http://www.firstpost.com/blogs/euro-2012-what-is-samir-nasris-problem-357557.html#disqus_thread

He might be suspended from the national team for up to 2 years according to some media reports. So another potential opening for a white player?

backrow posted an article about it a few days ago i think
but i don't like to comment too much about it because it draws attention to the player's behaviour while it is obvious that, just based on his performances on the field, nasri doesn't deserve to be in the team
but he plays in a big club because he is arab, so you have to take him in the team

he said it in french by the way

and it opens the way for gourcuff, who wasn't in the team because the media put a lot of pressure on laurent blanc because gourcuff didn't play much this season (injury) so they felt like he didn't deserve to be called
laurent blanc had to drop him just 2 weeks before the tournament

here is gourcuff's "horrible" season:

[video=youtube_share;zTNjiyDCuiA]http://youtu.be/zTNjiyDCuiA[/video]

still better than every french middlefielder
 

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I don't know if it's just me, but the matches of Portugal bore me to death...........Ronaldo is great, no doubt about it, maybe the best athlete in the world from any sport, but come on, Portugal's game is disgusting, 10 players searching and passing the ball to one player constantly. I better go to sleep instead of seeing this thing again and again like they play pro evolution in PS3.
 

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It's well known that the fifth penalty taker on the team starting second often doesn't have to take one - like Italy on Sunday. Ronaldo is their best player and the penalty taker for his club yet he is put (or placed himself?) in that position. Hmm... To make it to penalties and not have your main penalty taker participate is either stupidity or, dare I say it, lack of confidence (maybe fear). (Remember he missed in his outing in the Champions League shoot-out against Bayern Munich).
 

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Now that I think of it Ronaldo also missed his last penalty for Portugal as well in a friendly before this tournament.
 

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It's well known that the fifth penalty taker on the team starting second often doesn't have to take one - like Italy on Sunday. Ronaldo is their best player and the penalty taker for his club yet he is put (or placed himself?) in that position. Hmm... To make it to penalties and not have your main penalty taker participate is either stupidity or, dare I say it, lack of confidence (maybe fear). (Remember he missed in his outing in the Champions League shoot-out against Bayern Munich).

to start the penalty shootout is a very big advantage indeed
but we could see the portuguese coach doing his list before they knew who was going to start
i guess they could have changed once they realised that spain was going to start
moutinho as the first shooter was a bad idea
the brazilian pepe didn't miss his penalty, maybe he should have taken the first since it's the most important one
 
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