The fans are this delusional

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I've said this before, even if nothing happened, since that lady accused Roethlisberger, he will be crucified by the media and be compared to inept, illiterate thugs like Mike Vick and Adam Jones.
 
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Jack Lambert said:
I've said this before, even if nothing happened, since that lady accused Roethlisberger, he will be crucified by the media and be compared to inept, illiterate thugs like Mike Vick and Adam Jones.

This is another example of the naivete that white athletes seem to have. Some of them insist on signing with teams that won't use them. Others don't realize that they can't misbehave and get away with it. I believe Roethlisberger admited to consensual sex with the accuser, not realizing that a big-name white pro football player with deep pockets is a big fat target. If a well-known white pro football player is going to consort with women he doesn't know, he had better put aside money for the attorney's fees. He's going to need it.
 

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well looks like some arent as delusional as we think, at least when it comes to money some dwf's will wake up a little bit. Crabtree is threatening to sit out THE ENTIRE 2009 season and enter next years draft if he doesnt get paid what he wants. Because the team that drafted him said he was the best wide receiver in the draft, he wants to be paid higher than the guy the Raiders drafted at number 7, even thoug he himself was picked at number 10.

From what I have read on message boards fans are pissed and think the money situation has gone to far and the athletes are getting ridiculous. (I suspect this has something to do with the economy being bad). Hopefully some will wake up entirely and realize the NFL is a joke and the best players are not on the field, and out of shape guys are getting paid millions to be mediocre.

Crabtree is stupid, next years draft quite a few talented wide receivers coming out, several of them White. I would love for him to do this and hopefully hear Decker and Shipley's name ahead of his. So I hope he doesn't budge on his threat and the organization calls his bluff. He will drop in next year's draft and get even less money.

Of course the dwf's only solution is a rookie salary cap, which is needed, but teams should start drafting people who actually care more about playing football than a huge pay day. I mean heyward bey got like what a 38 million dollar contract? Crabtree is not satisfied with getting a little less than that, he has to get more? I would say Decker is better than Crabtree or at least on the same level, I bet he won't get anywhere near the contract though.Edited by: dwid
 

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Most NFL players are extremely overpaid. I think it is getting ridiculous. You have these king sized children like Crabtree ranting and raving. Can Crabtree give a guarentee to his team and the NFL that he will not be involved in any criminal activity like most of the players in the league? He can't so he needs to keep his mouth shut. I guess these ridiculous salaries are the reason the Cowboys are charging 70 dollars for parking and 90 dollars for a pizza in the luxury suite. Edited by: whiteathlete33
 

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I agree with you completely about Decker. He has virtually the same measurables and size combination as Crabtree and has a very similar playing style. Both these guys are physical WRs with solid (not spectacular) speed for their size. Their best feats are that they run spectacular routes and simply will not be denied the ball. Both are fearless and adjust to the ball very well while in the air and can juke guys nicely before and after the catch. They both probably compare to Larry Fitzgerald (Fitz ran a very respectable 4.5 flat at his Pro Day, but ran a 4.62 at the combine) as well, in the two aforementioned ways.

The thing is, Decker doesn't have an enormous ego and therefore is more a team player than Crabtree. If things were fair, Decker would be off the board by the mid point of the 1st round, even if "ALL" the top underclassmen declare.
 

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Good info/intel on the sloppy, unprepared "affletes" & their adoring DWFs. I can't imagine making $500K a year much less $5 million!There's NO excuse for professional (so-called) "affletes" to not be in peak shape...but as Don alluded too, this primadonnas know they have a "free pass" (while better White players are royally shafted).
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NFL coaches are trying to do the impossible, namely instill discipline in a league that long ago traded away discipline in order to pander to the ghetto mentality of so many of the affletes they love to stock their teams with. BTW, Marshall is a chronic arrestee and an accused woman beater,but unlike Matt Jones he'sstill a DWF favorite and will continue to get chance after chance for years to come as long as he isn't videotaped killing someone:

Broncos list WR Marshall on 2nd-team offense
The Broncos listed Brandon Marshall as a second-team receiver on their first depth chart of camp.

<DIV =s_pNewsTextMain>Marshall is Denver's most talented wideout, but his eventful offseason and inability to practice due to undisclosed injury has him behind Jabar Gaffney on the temporary depth chart. Gaffney, Eddie Royal, and Brandon Stokley are listed as the top three receivers. Marshall will regain first-team status when healthy, but it appears coach Josh McDaniels is trying to send a message.
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<DIV =s_pNewsTextMain>Bowe already in new coach Haley's doghouse?
<DIV =s_pNewsTextMain>Dwayne Bowe is currently not in the Chiefs' starting lineup, according to beat writer Adam Teicher.

<DIV =s_pNewsTextMain>Teicher says Bowe will almost certainly be a starter when the Chiefs face the Ravens in Week 1, but coach Todd Haley doesn't feel the third-year receiver is responding to the Chiefs' new discipline, conditioning-oriented approach. Haley is "willing to make an example (of Bowe) to get his point across," Teicher says. "Until he figures that out, (Bowe) will be on the bench."
 

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Another couple of affletes who feel they are Gods gift to the NFL. When the DWF'd finally wake up and stop attending games to see a bunch of hooligans play things will change.Until then we can expect one of of every three affletes to have a criminal record.
 

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Another black player is belatedly learning that professional athletes should actually try to be in good shape:

Preseason Week 2 sensation Mike Bell admits he "let (himself) go" earlier in his career with the Broncos.

<DIV =s_pNewsTextMain>Bell scored eight TDs and averaged 4.3 YPC as an undrafted rookie in 2006, but admits he "didn't care" and "gained all that weight" when Mike Shanahan converted him to fullback in 2007 camp. "I would've cut me too," he said. "Nobody wants somebody that's cancerous to the team." Bell is now in the mix to be New Orleans' No. 3 back behind Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush.
 

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Man it is great being an affelet. You make the NFL, have an ok rookie season. Let yourself become a pig, confess to being a cancer on a team. Get cut. Oh well, I will skip over to another team and "be in the mix" a step behind Reggie Bush. This NFL is so forgiving and great if you are black of course! Hope Matt Jones doesn't read this!
 

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More than anything, the DWFs are the ones I depise the most. God, our country is in a sh.t sandwhich!
 

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Don Wassall said:
Another black player is belatedly learning that professional athletes should actually try to be in good shape:
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<div>Preseason Week 2 sensation Mike Bell admits he "let (himself) go" earlier in his career with the Broncos.
&lt;DIV =s_pNewsTextMain&gt;Bell scored eight TDs and averaged 4.3 YPC as an undrafted rookie in 2006, but admits he "didn't care" and "gained all that weight" when Mike Shanahan converted him to fullback in 2007 camp. "I would've cut me too," he said. "Nobody wants somebody that's cancerous to the team." Bell is now in the mix to be New Orleans' No. 3 back behind Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush. </div></div>

There was a big write up on him in the local newspaper. He was quoted as saying "I guess I had to be cut a few times to learn about humbleness" and talk about how he just got fat and refused to become a fullback. A White rb doesn't even get that first chance unless injuries occur. Imagine Jacob Hester saying he didn't want to play fullback. Mike Bell might actually be in the mix for the number 2 spot, behind Bush. Thomas is injured and it was speculated he would compete with Thomas anyway. Must be nice to do whatever you want and still get a chance to play. Matt Jones is still waiting for a call.

And what should be good news is, White LB Scott Shanle won the Saints Defensive MVP for last year, which is voted by the coaches and players, yet most fans on message boards still think he sucks and Vilma is the best player no matter what and that we should pick up Derrick Brooks to replace him. Shanle has been bashed constantly for the past few years. Now that a small minority are on his side and realize that he is good, they are trying to call for Scott Fujita's head, saying he needs to get upgraded, which really means "blacken the position"

"Maybe they felt sorry for Shanle and gave him the MVP, sort of like Notre Dame letting Rudy play a snap."

No that would be the "Courage" award, which their beloved black Vilma, who is supposedly the best,won for last year.Edited by: dwid
 
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Man it is great being an affelet. You make the NFL, have an ok rookie season. Let yourself become a pig, confess to being a cancer on a team. Get cut. Oh well, I will skip over to another team and "be in the mix" a step behind Reggie Bush. This NFL is so forgiving and great if you are black of course! Hope Matt Jones doesn't read this!
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</div><div>Also if they become veterans and sign big contracts then after that it is apparently ok to let one-self go!!</div><div>
</div><div>'Yo I gotz paid homie! Forget dat working noize boy!'</div><div>
</div><div>Lets take a chronological look at Shaun Alexanders career:</div><div>
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</div><div><table ="wikitable" style="font-size: 15px; color: black; : rgb249, 249, 249; margin-top: 1em; margin-right: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 0px; -: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -webkit--clip: initial; -webkit--origin: initial; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-collapse: collapse; text-align: center; -: initial initial; "><t><tr><th rowspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; 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border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; -: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -webkit--clip: initial; -webkit--origin: initial; : rgb242, 242, 242; text-align: center; -: initial initial; ">Rushing</th><th colspan="5" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; -: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -webkit--clip: initial; -webkit--origin: initial; : rgb242, 242, 242; text-align: center; -: initial initial; ">Receiving</th><th colspan="2" style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; -: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -webkit--clip: initial; -webkit--origin: initial; : rgb242, 242, 242; text-align: center; -: initial initial; ">Fumbles</th></tr><tr><th style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; -: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -webkit--clip: initial; -webkit--origin: initial; : rgb242, 242, 242; text-align: center; -: initial initial; ">G</th><th style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; -: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -webkit--clip: initial; -webkit--origin: initial; : rgb242, 242, 242; text-align: center; -: initial initial; ">S</th><th style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; -: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -webkit--clip: initial; -webkit--origin: initial; : rgb242, 242, 242; text-align: center; -: initial initial; ">Att</th><th style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; 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border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; -: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -webkit--clip: initial; -webkit--origin: initial; : rgb242, 242, 242; text-align: center; -: initial initial; ">Lng</th><th style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; -: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -webkit--clip: initial; -webkit--origin: initial; : rgb242, 242, 242; text-align: center; -: initial initial; ">TD</th><th style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; -: initial; -repeat: initial; -attachment: initial; -webkit--clip: initial; -webkit--origin: initial; : rgb242, 242, 242; text-align: center; -: initial initial; ">Rec</th><th style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; 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border-left-style: solid; border-collapse: collapse; text-align: center; -: initial initial; "><t><tr><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">2003</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">16</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">15</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">326</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">1,435</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">4.4</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">55</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">14</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">42</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">295</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">7.0</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">22</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">2</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">4</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">3</td></tr><tr><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">2004</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">16</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">16</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">353</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">1,696</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">4.8</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">44</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">16</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">23</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">170</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">7.4</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">24</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">4</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">5</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">3</td></tr><tr><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">2005</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">16</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">16</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">370</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">1,880</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">5.1</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">88</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">27</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">15</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">78</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">5.2</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">9</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">1</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">5</td><td style="border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-right-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-bottom-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-left-color: rgb170, 170, 170; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-right: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em; padding-left: 0.2em; ">1</td></tr></t></table>
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Rehol, welcome to Caste Football!
 

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More guys that declined after big pay days

Charles Grant 2006 season, didnt get a ton of sacks but is a LDE and was good at "playing the run" and he got some pressure. Before 2007 season he demanded a raise because he has to "feed his kids" is what he said. So they signed him to a 7 year contract with 20 million guaranteed. His performance wasn't even that great, but it dropped off severely, but his weight ballooned.
tcksololastpdsackff
2006NOR65501566.03
2007NOR4839922.50
2008NOR3327623.00

feeding his children
this is a 4-3 DE, not a DT
saintsgrant072207.jpg


thats a DT behind him, Brian Young, who is bigger?

medium_04%20grant%20crowd.jpg


medium_13_MD_Saints_28.jpg


here is a LDE
693629m.jpg



So the Charles Grant on the left side didn't quite work out, Will Smith demands a huge contract in the 2007 offseason even though his production dropped a little that year, maybe he just needed a big contract to be motivated?

"before 2008 season Saints defensive end WIll Smith on Wednesday agreed to a six-year, $70 million contract extension that makes him the third-highest paid end in the NFL, his agent said.

A league source said the contract includes $26 million in guaranteed money."
tcklsoloastpdsackff
2006NOR14513318310.53
2007NOR1666471937.02
2008NOR1661431813.01

what a nice way of paying back the saints in hard work, both tested positive for starcaps, a drug to help lose weight. Charles Grant came in at over 290, and Will Smith close to 290 at 6'3

will-smith.jpg


saints17-137x200.jpg


cant really find pictures of him in 2008 when he was even fatter

here is a RDE

photo4.jpg


I know there are bigger guys like Vanden Bosch and Jared Allen but you will notice that all of them still have their stomaches go inward from their shoulder pads.


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Affletes are getting paid millions of dollars and presumably fighting for roster spots and starting positions, yet still can't refrain from partying all night when there's a game the next afternoon.




Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports Oakland Raiders DL Greg Ellis questioned his team's commitment following a preseason loss to the New Orleans Saints Saturday, Aug. 29. Ellis wondered whether players were out all night prior to the game rather than being mentally and physically prepared to play. "Guys, you can't stay out all night. Can't expect to come in here and just turn it on," Ellis said. "This isn't high school or college football. This is the best of the best in the NFL. So you've got to do the small things that maybe you didn't have to do in college."

Well, Greg, it's not exactly the way to go about things in high school and college, either.
 

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Blacksonville and San Diego are among 12 teams that are facing home game TV blackouts if they don't sell more tickets!

Cinci (not excited about Andre Smiff), KC Chiefs, Detroit, Saint Louis, Oakland and Atlanta are probably some of the other teams.


Sure, corporations can keep the NFL afloat moreso than they can the NBA or MLB, but the people's rebellion will march forward.
 

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Deadlift said:
Blacksonville and San Diego are among 12 teams that are facing home game TV blackouts if they don't sell more tickets!

Cinci (not excited about Andre Smiff), KC Chiefs, Detroit, Saint Louis, Oakland and Atlanta are probably some of the other teams.


Sure, corporations can keep the NFL afloat moreso than they can the NBA or MLB, but the people's rebellion will march forward.

The crowds at the preseason games have been noticeably smaller this year. Since they're usually includedasa mandatorycost of buying season tickets, it shows that the DWFs aren't so starved for the NFL that they'll even pack stadiums for meaningless exhibition games (not to mention savingthe money for parking, hot dogs, beer, etc.).

Of course if there is a drop in regular season attendance the media will attribute it to the "recession" and not the product itself. The power structure considers the NFL as vital to the status quo as it does the U.S.'s farce of a two-party system.
 

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dwid said:
More guys that declined after big pay days

Charles Grant 2006 season, didnt get a ton of sacks but is a LDE and was good at "playing the run" and he got some pressure. Before 2007 season he demanded a raise because he has to "feed his kids" is what he said. So they signed him to a 7 year contract with 20 million guaranteed. His performance wasn't even that great, but it dropped off severely, but his weight ballooned.
tcksololastpdsackff
2006NOR65501566.03
2007NOR4839922.50
2008NOR3327623.00

feeding his children
this is a 4-3 DE, not a DT
saintsgrant072207.jpg


thats a DT behind him, Brian Young, who is bigger?

medium_04%20grant%20crowd.jpg


medium_13_MD_Saints_28.jpg


here is a LDE
693629m.jpg



So the Charles Grant on the left side didn't quite work out, Will Smith demands a huge contract in the 2007 offseason even though his production dropped a little that year, maybe he just needed a big contract to be motivated?

"before 2008 season Saints defensive end WIll Smith on Wednesday agreed to a six-year, $70 million contract extension that makes him the third-highest paid end in the NFL, his agent said.

A league source said the contract includes $26 million in guaranteed money."
tcklsoloastpdsackff
2006NOR14513318310.53
2007NOR1666471937.02
2008NOR1661431813.01

what a nice way of paying back the saints in hard work, both tested positive for starcaps, a drug to help lose weight. Charles Grant came in at over 290, and Will Smith close to 290 at 6'3

will-smith.jpg


saints17-137x200.jpg


cant really find pictures of him in 2008 when he was even fatter

here is a RDE

photo4.jpg


I know there are bigger guys like Vanden Bosch and Jared Allen but you will notice that all of them still have their stomaches go inward from their shoulder pads.

Pay him more money already so he can feed his kids. He already had to eat two of them to keep them from starving.
 

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This is a little off topic but Latrell Sprewell said the same thing several years ago about feeding his kids. He was offered many millions and said it wasn't enough. What is it with blacks and talking about feeding their kids? Maybe the sumo has many kids wity many different women and has alot of child support to pay. Typical behavior for a bruva.Edited by: whiteathlete33
 

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For one thing, they're not much for arithmetic. For another, they're not sure how many kids they have, or might pop up down the line. Add that to their bling bills and in their minds they can never have enough money.
 

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I was watching the FOX business channel, and they said that Jacksonville is 15,000 tickets short of a sell-out!!

They mentioned that companies can't really buy that many tickets to ensure a sell-out. We'll see.
 

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Gee, it's really tough for so many of the "world's greatest athletes" to be in acceptable physical condition, even when they're being paid $63 million to do so:
According to Ravens beat writer Mike Preston, Terrell Suggs barely played in the second half Sunday because he's out of shape.


Analysis: Considering the Ravens gave him a stunning $63 million contract, this is inexcusable. Suggs has eight tackles and 1.5 sacks on the season so far.
 

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Deadlift said:
I was watching the FOX business channel, and they said that Jacksonville is 15,000 tickets short of a sell-out!!

They mentioned that companies can't really buy that many tickets to ensure a sell-out. We'll see.

Do you mean companies are *prohibited* (by law or NFL regs) from buying that many tix?

FYI that Jags game did get blacked out per http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=153133.0 .

John
 

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Deadlift said:
I was watching the FOX business channel, and they said that Jacksonville is 15,000 tickets short of a sell-out!!

They mentioned that companies can't really buy that many tickets to ensure a sell-out. We'll see.

From what I understand there are about 13 NFL teams who are in danger this year of not having sellouts every game. I have even heard some crying on Sports Talk Radio that the NFL needs to change it's blackout rule for these tough economic times. This is a good trend and I hope it continues and gets worse. In reality I believe it absolutely will because despite the media and Fed insistence, the economy is not getting better. They have even had to resort to spin to call the period we are in as a jobless recovery and base their hopes on more speculative bubbles. There are certainly no large quantities of jobs being created that do not revolve around government pork barreling and manufacturing and higher wage jobs continue to be outsourced or insourced to foreign visa laborers. jobless recovery is more Marxist speak for normalization of the economic hardship we are experiencing. This in my opinion, is the one thing that will have the most positive effect at bringing down the caste system combined with the increasing bad behavior of the predominantly black players in the league.
 
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