Riddlewire said:
Bart said:
The ground is the most fertile now that it has been in 40 years. All we need are willing cultivators.
While I agree with this premise, it must be pointed out, unfortunately, that the enemy not only is out-reproducing us in huge numbers, they're getting an ever-increasing flood of new members through illegal immigration. I'm not going to say it's hopeless, but it's certainly not a fair fight.
Riddlewhire, you make a good point. By the time we get a viable, workable mechanism functioning, we will be swamped. Look at the election results. The White vote went against Obama. Too bad, so sad,Pedro and Tyrone would say. The minorites voted as a bloc for what they perceived as their best interests, not ours. Even the Asians went big for Obama, as did the Jews, of course.
All right then, another perspective on the situation lifted from a discussion. Food for thought.
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<DIV style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Jews win White hearts and minds, and political office. They do it by NOT talking about "what's good for jews."</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
Again, you're presenting the common and false explanation that our failures are mechanical, hence correctable by smiling, dressing and talking differently. That is wrong. Our failures are Systemic. We are suppressed and not able to get our message about except through the Internet. That is not going to change in the short term, except possibly in the wrong direction. Jews don't triumph by winning hearts and minds, they win by monopolizing the mass media and political machinery so that no one ever hears any alternative view. Except it be presented in a jew-favorable context - Jerry Springer show, for example. The jews aren't winning because they have better arguments, better delivery or better presentation,
they win because they own the stadium, satellite uplinks, players and announcers.
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<TD =alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Any attempt to reach Whites AS Whites will be met with fear. Fear of being immoral, cruel, "evil". Add to that the more practical matter of running up against "hate speech" codes, and losing one's means of earning a living. </TD></TR></T></TABLE>
What you don't grasp is the basis of that fear. It is not due to our message or its delivery but the social cost of accepting what we say. White opposition to our message is refusal to suffer by adopting a cause that has no power and which can be severely sanctioned by NWO. Whites in many ways show by their behavior they DO accept our message - by moving away from muds and refusing to mix with them. But that is a passive and legal response. They know that by joining with other Whites in an active political sense, the jews can cause them great pain. These are facts no matter how smoothly and softly we approach them.
It's not a matter of our message, it's a matter of our not controlling the money, the media, and the law enforcement.
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<TD =alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">We have to reach Whites by not talking about "what's good for Whites". Their minds slam shut as soon as we do that. Instead, we need a way of communicating with our people by identifying uniquely White traits and desires, without labelling them as such. Something that people can get behind and not feel "guilty" about. Something that can't be censored by rules against "hate speech". Something that doesn't need an appeal to abstractions like "The First Amendment", which most Whites can't even fathom. The US Constitution is an abstraction with no relevance to their daily lives. </TD></TR></T></TABLE>
Coded appeals won't work. The jew knows what we mean, and no matter how benignly we term it, he'll call it hate. The only people who think this way are conservatives who've never gone public as Whites. There's no way to slick NWO's System.
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<TD =alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">We need to build a real, viable political coalition. Running for office should be done with the intention of winning that office. Merely trying to get the word out won't do anything. The word iWs out. Nobody wants to listen, because they're afraid, and they feel powerless. We need to adjust our tone accordingly. </TD></TR></T></TABLE>
It's not a matter of tone. You're ignoring every lesson history has to teach. The problem is the machinery is controlled by our enemies. How dumb do you think they are? You really think all it takes is some nice guy with a winning personality talking in codes to break through? The idea is laughable. Look at what actually works rather than what the experts-who've-never-done-it say. Hitler and his boys achieved victory through direct speech and action. Not by talking in codes and ceding the streets and use of violence to jews.
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We will make no progress until we can stop scaring average White people. </TD></TR></T></TABLE>
Here's the thing that guys like you are seemingly incapable of grasping: it's not about us. It's about the way we will be portrayed by those who control the media. Get it? The bottom of your and Shank's "argument" is not an argument at all
but a refusal to accept that the game really is rigged. Trust me, it is. I've seen it up close as conservative, and I've seen it up close as a White nationalist. There is no way for Whites to win within the System. The only value in running for office is learning how to speak, meeting people and raising money. Victory in any meaningful way is not possible.
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Blunt recitation of frightening facts isn't working. Predicting the next civil war isn't working. Hoping for an economic collapse isn't working.
Doing the same things over and over again isn't working. This is Schaenk's message, and we would do well to heed it. </TD></TR></T></TABLE>
No, what's not working is talking and pretending our problems are the result of our behavior rather than jewish tyranny.
Shank's view is simply the common, false idea that there is a way out of problem that doesn't involve force. The System is never going to allow us to use itself to effect Systemic change. Jews aren't like us.
They don't offer us the same individualist, neutral, fair law to take power away from them like we did them. They don't give the opposition a level playing field, or any playing field at all - they
crush it. They are totalitarians
