Sergey Kovalev vs Andre Ward - June 17

[NWsoccerfan]

I'm getting tired of our guys like Kovalev playing into these games that the American blacks play. Kovalev let all this happen. He should have fought in Russia for starters, he should have finished Ward in the first fight and he didn't, and now he let ward punk him in the second fight. I hate to get down on Kovalev, who has given us so many good fights and memories, but he let this happen in my opinion. Now it sounds like his trainer isn't even backing him up. Ward is not a tough guy. Kovalev could tear wards limbs off if he wanted. I just don't get it.

 

[NWsoccerfan]

Just watched it. OMG, Ward is the dirtiest Motherf'er I have ever seen. He charges in with his head, holds and hits. He does it over and over again, right from the beginning. That is his style!! He has mastered it. He won't box. It is only this corrupt system that allows a guy like that to be labeled a champion.

I like MMA better. These non fighter guys (e.g., Ward, Mayweather) who are allowed to manipulate the system can't make it in MMA.

I agree. MMA has it's issues but doesn't seem to be nearly the racket boxing is. There was a time when I really enjoyed following boxing, but I'm really checked out now. I really don't watch it anymore unless it's convenient and free.

 

[Ambrose]

I agree. MMA has it's issues but doesn't seem to be nearly the racket boxing is. There was a time when I really enjoyed following boxing, but I'm really checked out now. I really don't watch it anymore unless it's convenient and free.

We just follow white boxers here and mostly discuss big fights. And white fighters do most of the winning these days so boxing is good to talk up.

 

[limitless]

It should have never gotten to this. I agree with NW Soccer fan. He should have gotten Ward out of there the first time.

Sergey Kovalev: I Overtrained for the First Andre Ward Fight

By Keith Idec

NEW YORK – Sergey Kovalev will take a different approach to training camp for his rematch with Andre Ward than he did for their first fight.

Kovalev admitted Monday before a press conference to promote their June 17 rematch that he thinks he overtrained for their light heavyweight championship match November 19 in Las Vegas. According to Kovalev, overexerting himself during camp prohibited him from having enough stamina to keep up the same pace in the second half of their 12-round fight as he did during its first half.

Ward overcame a second-round knockdown, took control over the final six rounds and won a unanimous decision over Kovalev at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Kovalev claims his high regard for Ward made him overextend himself while he prepared in Big Bear, California, for their HBO Pay-Per-View main event.


“I overrated Ward in the first fight and I overtrained,” Kovalev said through a translator. “I did way too much. I thought that was the fight of my life and I overtrained myself for that fight. And now I know what I need to do to beat him. Basically, I overtrained myself for that fight.”

The 34-year-old Kovalev began changing his training regimen before he faced South Africa’s Isaac Chilemba (24-5-2, 10 KOs) on July 11 in Ekaterinburg, Russia. Chilemba took Kovalev the distance and now, after knocking out 26 of his first 30 professional opponents (87 percent), the former 175-pound champion has gone 12 rounds in back-to-back bouts.

“My last two fights I thought I did way more in training camp than I normally do, for Chilemba and for Ward,” Kovalev said. “So from now on I’ll just do what I normally do. I’m not gonna overtrain myself or do the extra stuff that I did for those two fights. Because before my results spoke for themselves. I just have to get back to what I’ve done before for preparation for the fights.”

Kovalev didn’t specify which portions of his training for the Ward and Chilemba matches he’ll eliminate, yet did offer a glimpse of how he’ll train for this rematch.

“I overrated Ward,” Kovalev reiterated. “I overtrained. I believe I can beat anyone now. I believe I can beat any Olympic champion now. For me, it’s enough for me to do my roadwork in the morning for one hour and do my boxing one hour at night. And that will be enough to beat Andre Ward.”

- See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/sergey-k...andre-ward-fight--115498#sthash.PjrHsKh2.dpuf

 

[celticdb15]

I counted 5low blows in the last two rounds of that debacle. Never thought we'd be sitting here pissed off because Ward TKOd Kovalev via attacking the Ruskies family jewels! Ridiculous! Both Roc Nation(JayZ Illuminati )guys were gifted controversial wins in the dirtiest town in the world.. ****** up. Bad for boxing, good for brain dead DWFs from the Bay Area and Jewsa

 

[Ambrose]

It should have never gotten to this. I agree with NW Soccer fan. He should have gotten Ward out of there the first time.

Sergey Kovalev: I Overtrained for the First Andre Ward Fight

By Keith Idec

NEW YORK – Sergey Kovalev will take a different approach to training camp for his rematch with Andre Ward than he did for their first fight.

Kovalev admitted Monday before a press conference to promote their June 17 rematch that he thinks he overtrained for their light heavyweight championship match November 19 in Las Vegas. According to Kovalev, overexerting himself during camp prohibited him from having enough stamina to keep up the same pace in the second half of their 12-round fight as he did during its first half.

Ward overcame a second-round knockdown, took control over the final six rounds and won a unanimous decision over Kovalev at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. Kovalev claims his high regard for Ward made him overextend himself while he prepared in Big Bear, California, for their HBO Pay-Per-View main event.


“I overrated Ward in the first fight and I overtrained,” Kovalev said through a translator. “I did way too much. I thought that was the fight of my life and I overtrained myself for that fight. And now I know what I need to do to beat him. Basically, I overtrained myself for that fight.”

The 34-year-old Kovalev began changing his training regimen before he faced South Africa’s Isaac Chilemba (24-5-2, 10 KOs) on July 11 in Ekaterinburg, Russia. Chilemba took Kovalev the distance and now, after knocking out 26 of his first 30 professional opponents (87 percent), the former 175-pound champion has gone 12 rounds in back-to-back bouts.

“My last two fights I thought I did way more in training camp than I normally do, for Chilemba and for Ward,” Kovalev said. “So from now on I’ll just do what I normally do. I’m not gonna overtrain myself or do the extra stuff that I did for those two fights. Because before my results spoke for themselves. I just have to get back to what I’ve done before for preparation for the fights.”

Kovalev didn’t specify which portions of his training for the Ward and Chilemba matches he’ll eliminate, yet did offer a glimpse of how he’ll train for this rematch.

“I overrated Ward,” Kovalev reiterated. “I overtrained. I believe I can beat anyone now. I believe I can beat any Olympic champion now. For me, it’s enough for me to do my roadwork in the morning for one hour and do my boxing one hour at night. And that will be enough to beat Andre Ward.”

- See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/sergey-k...andre-ward-fight--115498#sthash.PjrHsKh2.dpuf

And he was beating him until he was attacked outside of boxing rules.

 

[SneakyFast]

I'm getting tired of our guys like Kovalev playing into these games that the American blacks play. Kovalev let all this happen. He should have fought in Russia for starters, he should have finished Ward in the first fight and he didn't, and now he let ward punk him in the second fight. I hate to get down on Kovalev, who has given us so many good fights and memories, but he let this happen in my opinion. Now it sounds like his trainer isn't even backing him up. Ward is not a tough guy. Kovalev could tear wards limbs off if he wanted. I just don't get it.

Dang right, in neutral international territory or his home with neutral refs and judges zero bad connections. Kovalev's trainer is lying he is trying to save face for one of his kindred happens everytime, blacks aren''t about being honest. All they can do is cheat, defraud, and steal

 

[SneakyFast]

Complete bull shite. All rules are negotiable. And we see standing 8 counts on sanctioned fights all the time. So many morons make up the millions of brain poisoned Americans.

exactly

Yes and i don't know what rules kovalev agreed to, i just gave the general norm for this...but I just wanted to make my point he was fighting dirty, PRIMA FACIE with the low blows, going into slow mo only CONFIRMS it(despite the nutbags for their various reasons screaming "body shot"). A real ref would have warned Ward then on that last infraction disqualified Ward, but we don't see even basic rules enforcement so fights aren't clean, so many rigged, a lot against our guys and its pissing me off frankly.

 

[SneakyFast]

OMG what the hell happened?

Kovalev while wobbled wasn't that hurt and wasn't out on his feet and Tony Weeks acted like Dave Hepner or another WWE stooge referee, by not seeing any low blows.

Fine if you think Kovalev was hit with legitimate shots you issue a count while he is sitting on the ropes as that would constitute a knock down, then if he can't or won't continue you stop the fight. Weeks immediately stopped the fight??

If the Nevada commission doesn't immediately suspend Weeks in Nevada the commission is a joke, but of course one could argue they are a joke after sanctioning the Mayweather money grab in August.

If Kovalev doesn't get an immediate rematch his career could be in a spiral through no fault of his own.

I think its just immediate raction to fake news articles not showing the details and the actual pics/footage of the robbery. illegal punches cannot knock an opponent out, but it should mean you the illegal actor gets disqualified. Golota wasn't ruled a winner for nut shots neither should have Ward been given a W for this assinine stuff.

 

[SneakyFast]

Kovalev's Negro trainer betrayed him:

Blacks are not loyal to whites, they will stab them in the back looks like he maybe sniffed out a chance to jump on board the cheat train in conjunction with his racial biases.

 

[werewolf]

 

[SneakyFast]

Paulie is sounding kind of forgiving. Ward only went for low blows he never seriously tried attacking the body(implying ward had a legit strategy, or tried executing any real boxing which lord knows he can't do), all those punches deserving of a warning were clearly low. Seems to me he is trying to muddy the water and sit on a fence instead of take a side.

 

[werewolf]

Paulie is sounding kind of forgiving. Ward only went for low blows he never seriously tried attacking the body(implying ward had a legit strategy, or tried executing any real boxing which lord knows he can't do), all those punches deserving of a warning were clearly low. Seems to me he is trying to muddy the water and sit on a fence instead of take a side.

Yeah he is already toning it down a little there. Initially when the fight was live he sounded very irate about the low blows and the fake stoppage. He'd pissed me off earlier in a prelim when he kept shrilly accusing the Mexican fighter of taking a dive against the pygmy negro who was both holding and hitting and hitting after the bell, but I thought he was good when the Las Vegas ref and his accomplice in the ring were doing their thing.

 

[white is right]

Well the fix is in. Tony Weeks is on the fast track for employee of the month...http://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-exec-good-stoppage-kovalev-ward-shots-legal--117696http://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-exec-good-stoppage-kovalev-ward-shots-legal--117696

Nothing to see here folks lets move on...

 

[werewolf]

Well the fix is in. Tony Weeks is on the fast track for employee of the month...http://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-exec-good-stoppage-kovalev-ward-shots-legal--117696http://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-exec-good-stoppage-kovalev-ward-shots-legal--117696

Nothing to see here folks lets move on...

I posted this before on BoxRec:


No Ward wasn't looking good - until he started landing the low blows. Up until then he was looking like manure. I didn't think K looked that sharp either, but he was definitely ahead on any legit card, and even one of the on-the-payroll Las Vegas judges had him way ahead. A NC would not be fair either. The fight should be changed to a DQ win for Kovalev. Of course the appeal goes where? To the same mobsters who run boxing and the drug test racket and the alphabets in Las Vegas, Nevada, so no doubt they'll turn it down and say what the jerk above says, "low blows what low blows we didn't see no low blows. We din see no stinkin low blows!" (with apologies to Alfonso Bedoya for paraphrasing his famous line!)

 

[Westside]

Duva is protesting the fight for the 4 low blows prior to the end. Looking forward to the response of the corrupt LV boxing commission. Man, what a letdown Saturday. Still trying to recover from that. Almost as bad when Cooney was KO'd Holmes.

 

[Westside]

And WIF was the 8 count. Meeks on the take. Always thought he was just. Just show him the green and affeletic fighter. Thats all he needed.

 

[Ambrose]

Paulie is sounding kind of forgiving. Ward only went for low blows he never seriously tried attacking the body(implying ward had a legit strategy, or tried executing any real boxing which lord knows he can't do), all those punches deserving of a warning were clearly low. Seems to me he is trying to muddy the water and sit on a fence instead of take a side.

True. Paulie is in a room full of those dummies and he befriends them anyway.

 

[SneakyFast]

Well the fix is in. Tony Weeks is on the fast track for employee of the month...http://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-exec-good-stoppage-kovalev-ward-shots-legal--117696http://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-exec-good-stoppage-kovalev-ward-shots-legal--117696

Nothing to see here folks lets move on...

They may just change the rules, if your black they're are none and if you are white the moment who jump in the ring you lose. Lets call it Chicago voting rules boxing...

 

[werewolf]

Duva is protesting the fight for the 4 low blows prior to the end. Looking forward to the response of the corrupt LV boxing commission. Man, what a letdown Saturday. Still trying to recover from that. Almost as bad when Cooney was KO'd Holmes.

Cooney - Holmes was the most disturbing fight ever for me. Cooney could have and should have been the champ.

"Looking forward to the response "

Didn't one of the Nevada boxing capos already give his verdict?

 

[Westside]

Cooney - Holmes was the most disturbing fight ever for me. Cooney could have and should have been the champ.

"Looking forward to the response "

Didn't one of the Nevada boxing capos already give his verdict?

Nothing official yet. Yet I will not be shocked if they give some convoluted explanation.

 

[Charles Martel]

 

[SneakyFast]

Nothing official yet. Yet I will not be shocked if they give some convoluted explanation.

They will flat out lie, just flat out totally lie

 

[Fighting Pride]

I don't think Ward can or will run through all of the contenders at either LH or Cruiser. He'll drop the titles so he can pick and chose, fake, cheat, and never lose.

Anyone signing up to fight him better be aware of what they're up against. They're fighting him and his judges, promoters, the athletic commission and the HBO network and their paid shill announcers.

 

[white is right]

I finally saw a full copy of this fight and the fight was close until the 8th round and Ward should have had a 9-9 round in the 8th with up to a 5 minute rest for Kovalev in the 8th. With so much fouling around that round Kovalev may have been listless down the stretch of the fight if Weeks wasn't willing to run Ward.

Ps. the post fight interview was bizarre as Ward said the first finishing shot was "borderline" and then delighted in a Golota 4 punch combo to Kovalev's cup and then asked to be pound for pound number 1. I guess borderline is the new legal blow.

I remember seeing an old copy of Ring Magazine where Fritzie Zivic was described as the greatest dirty fighter in the history of boxing, move over Fritzie we have the new king of fouling.