Rebutting Myths: Whites Evil, While Indians "Noble Savages"

[Ambrose]

 

[Don Wassall]

This is a good article on the same topic published just the other day:

The False Genocide Of Amerinds: Based On Pleasant Illusions

http://www.amerika.org/politics/the-false-genocide-of-amerinds-based-on-pleasant-illusions/

 

[Ambrose]

This is a good article on the same topic published just the other day:

The False Genocide Of Amerinds: Based On Pleasant Illusions

http://www.amerika.org/politics/the-false-genocide-of-amerinds-based-on-pleasant-illusions/

That's a good read and a good post.

Sometimes the most educated have very poor ability to reason and use logic. Talking to this man up in Canada once, he told me Canadians had taken the land from the Indians. I asked him how he knew that. He said "they were here first, before us. Everybody knows that." I said I don't know that, I wasn't here then nor was he. "Very funny," he said. I told him I wasn't joking. Then I asked him how could all of the land we now know as Canada have been Indian land when all that we have evidence of is that they settled along waterways, and that most of the land was simply uninhabited? he wouldn't comment further. Later I found out that man was the head psychiatrist of the local university and local hospital; apparently he'd spent most of his life getting educated.

 

[Average American]

Ambrose, appreciate this thread, I'm a history buff. Also like the article Don cited. The columnist makes an important point, that Indians are contemporarily viewed as having fought as 'a unified group'. It's a dishonest, unrealistic assessment. There's a great resource in the translated copy of Columbus' original log/journal. Columbus made the clear, first-hand distinction between gracisous, hospitable tribes, and the Caribs (who were the war-like, regional bullies).
It's a bigoted, cultural Marxist fairly tale, where Europeans were always predators, and natives were always prey. And this calculated myth deranges the respective self-esteems of both modern Whites, and modern Indians.

 

[Heretic]

Just growing up in the Midwest, it was fairly common knowledge that the Pawnee were mortal enemies of the Sioux, accompanied by brutal and bloody battles involving axes chopping off body parts, etc. And that's just one example of "Indian-on-Indian" violence before the "White Man" ever set foot in their territory.

Also, notice how "the system" always either praises or ignores/exonerates the "Buffalo Soldiers" (the "Negro Calvary") and their battles with the Indians.

 

[celticdb15]

Speaking of Indian on Indian Violence,Comanches terrorised everybody. Other Indian tribes,whites, and Mexicans. Very warlike people it was common for them to butcher a whole camp,rape the women and keep women and children as slaves.

http://www.americancowboychronicles.com/2014/02/comanche-lords-of-plains-or-just.html?m=1

 

[Ambrose]

When I studied "Ancient Civilizations" at university, the textbooks did acknowledge, among other brutal acts, human sacrifice was practiced by the Aztecs. The Spaniards, known as "Conquistadors", were shocked at what they discovered and recorded what they saw in "year books" which is a kind of diary. We retain those records today. For a long time Western Civilization was regarded as bringing enlightenment to the Indian tribes of the Americas. This positive view of White Western Civilization is not just the relic of old textbooks, but remains today by those they read and learn objectively. However, the likes of falsifiers (or weak minds?) such as Chomsky have contributed to this view of White Civilization alone as being destructive to indigenous peoples.

Here is a good tune by Procol Harum which favours the Spaniards.

 

[Ambrose]

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Some azzhole posted this on liveleak. 100% liberal propaganda.


Native American Council Offers Amnesty to 220 Million Undocumented Whites


image: https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2016/Apr/19/LiveLeak-dot-com-7d2_1461112754-american_1461112804.png.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd1974c45dcd4a1c3&ec_rate=230



A council of Native American leaders has offered partial amnesty to
the estimated 220 million illegal white immigrants living in the United
States.

At a meeting of the Native Peoples Council (NPC) in Albuquerque, New
Mexico yesterday, Native American leaders considered several proposals
on the future of this continent's large, unauthorized European
population. The elders ultimately decided to extend a pathway to
citizenship for those without criminal backgrounds.

"We are prepared to offer White people the option of staying on this
continent legally and applying for citizenship," explains Chief Wamsutta
of the Wampanoag nation. "In return, they must pay any outstanding
taxes and give back the land stolen from our ancestors.

"Any white person with a criminal record, however, will be deported
in the next 90 days back to their ancestral homeland. Rush Limbaugh will
be going to Germany. Justin Bieber will depart for Canada. And the entire cast of Jersey Shore will be returning to Italy."

Sustained European colonization of North America began in the 16th
and 17th centuries, when arrivals from France, Spain and England first
established settlements on land that had hitherto been occupied by
native peoples. Over the past 400 years immigrants from these countries
and others throughout Europe have transformed the demography of the
continent.

Despite their numerical superiority, many scholars question the
legality of the European settlement, as it was founded on a mixture of
unauthorized immigration, war and genocide.

Progressive native groups welcomed the council's decision today as a
step forward toward normalizing relations with the White community.
However, many conservative Native Americans are upset about the plan,
claiming that amnesty will only serve to reward lawbreakers.

"Why can't we just deport all of the Whites back to Europe?" asks Ité
Omáǧažu of the Lakota people. "They're just a drain on our economy
anyway. They came over here to steal our resources because they're too
lazy to develop their own back home.

"I can't believe we're just going to let them pay a fine. They should
get to the back of the line like everybody else -- behind the
Mexicans."



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[celticdb15]

That's a good chuckle.

 

[Leonardfan]

As far as what I have learned there were no native Americans. Academia preaches that the first natives followed their food sources over the frozen over Bering strait and over time dispersed throughout North and south America. By definition there isn't a Native American - the Indians that settled in the Americas were just one of history's losers to a more advanced and intelligent race of people.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

As far as what I have learned there were no native Americans. Academia preaches that the first natives followed their food sources over the frozen over Bering strait and over time dispersed throughout North and south America. By definition there isn't a Native American - the Indians that settled in the Americas were just one of history's losers to a more advanced and intelligent race of people.

That's right! T'was the White man who established civilized, advanced culture in the Western Hemisphere, & who founded our (once great) Republic. The savage "injuns" contributions were minimal (at best).

 

[Riggins44]

If Africa is truly the birthplace of all of mankind, as modern scientists would have us believe, then American Indians did indeed just migrate to the Americas like everyone else. They are not "native" to the Western Hemisphere. If they did originate in the Americas rather than Africa, then this means Indo-Europeans could have originated in the North Caucasus or some similar region, rather than Africa.

It's one or the other, they can't have it both ways.

 

[Heretic]

If Africa is truly the birthplace of all of mankind, as modern scientists would have us believe, then American Indians did indeed just migrate to the Americas like everyone else. They are not "native" to the Western Hemisphere. If they did originate in the Americas rather than Africa, then this means Indo-Europeans could have originated in the North Caucasus or some similar region, rather than Africa.

It's one or the other, they can't have it both ways.

Yup. Ever since separate civilizations were formed across the planet, they've been displaced or replaced by others as others formed. There's countless examples of this. Just look at Israel. From Jews to Palestinians back to Jews, with the Palestinians currently being exterminated. Not much mention of that by the Zionist-owned press...

Anyway, unfortunately, the same thing is happening to Whites now in Europe, America, Australia, etc. by the same forces that are pushing the "Whites exterminated Indians" crowd...

 

[Extra Point]

There is a lot of evidence that whites were in North America before the Indians. Kennewick man is an example.

 

[Riggins44]

There is a lot of evidence that whites were in North America before the Indians. Kennewick man is an example.

That's exactly right. When Kennewick man was discovered the local Indian tribe wanted the dig buried right away so as not to "disturb their ancestors". The real reason was so that it could not be proven that whites were in Washington state before the Indians were there. As you said Extra Point there is lots of evidence that Indo-Europeans were in North America before the Indians.

 

[Charles Martel]

Movies that portray whites as evil (except for the anti-hero) and Indians as noble and good:

Little Big Man
Dances with Wolves
Comanche Territory
Tomahawk

Those 4 above are the worst I've seen. Also:

The Undefeated
The Last Wagon
Broken Arrow
Cheyenne Autumn
Gunman's Walk
Hombre
White Feather

and many others.


TV:

Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman

 

[DixieDestroyer]

Kurt Russell's "Bone Tomahawk" is a far more accurate depiction of the heathen savages.

 

[Thrashen]

Movies that portray whites as evil (except for the anti-hero) and Indians as noble and good:

Little Big Man
Dances with Wolves
Comanche Territory
Tomahawk

Those 4 above are the worst I've seen. Also:

The Undefeated
The Last Wagon
Broken Arrow
Cheyenne Autumn
Gunman's Walk
Hombre
White Feather

and many others.


TV:

Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman

You can add the 2015 film: "The Revenant," where white men (aside from DeCaprio's "hero" character, who was married to an Indian woman and had a 1/2 Indian son) are repeatedly portrayed as rapists (of Indian women), murderers, racists, liars, thieves, deceivers, cowards, and weaklings. Quite naturally, they are sharply contrasted against against "noble, mystical, honorable" featherheads in the film. In this lovely little scene, a French solider is raping a hideous Indian woman, only to be miraculously "saved" by Leo before only seconds prior to ejaculation. Talk about a party-crasher!

After being saved, "Sacajawea" pulls a knife on the white man and says something like "Now I'm going to cut your balls off."

I saw this POS film during a "free HBO" weekend and found the level of anti-white sentiment to be staggering, even by Hollywood's lofty standards.

 

[Charles Martel]

You can add the 2015 film: "The Revenant," where white men (aside from DeCaprio's "hero" character, who was married to an Indian woman and had a 1/2 Indian son) are repeatedly portrayed as rapists (of Indian women), murderers, racists, liars, thieves, deceivers, cowards, and weaklings. Quite naturally, they are sharply contrasted against against "noble, mystical, honorable" featherheads in the film. In this scene, a French solider is raping an Indian woman, only to be "saved" by Leo...

After being saved, she pulls a knife on the white man and says something like "I'm going to cut your balls off."

I saw this POS film during a "free HBO" weekend and found the level of anti-white racism to be staggering, even by Hollywood's lofty standards.

Yes, forgot about that one. Horrible movie, it was completely historically inaccurate. Part of it (grizzly attack) was filmed in the Coast Mountains rainforest in British Columbia, which is a very, very different natural environment than the flat and rather dry northern Great Plains where the real events happened.

It's difficult to find a movie nowadays that isn't anti-white, except for lower budget independent movies.

I notice Rotten Tomatoes gives positive ratings to anti-white movies like The Revenant, and poor ratings to anything that has a Christian theme of doesn't portray whites in a negative way. Did you know Rotten Tomatoes actually bans members who give low ratings to anti-white movies, and high ratings to movies which are not in line with Cultural Marxism?

 

[fernchris55]

The film "Black Robe" depicted Jesuit missionary efforts to convert the various "natives" to Roman Catholicism in New France 1634. It's a realistic portrayal of 2 alien cultures trying to understand each other and failing miserably. It's pretty fair and takes great pains to be historically accurate. Neither the French or Indians are complete Saints or sinners. The Iroquois were one nasty tribe who like the Comanches in the American West were hated and feared by all other tribes including the European ones. The uptake I took from it was these scouts from civilization were hopelessly naive in understanding these "natives" from the dawn of time. They might have as well have sent anthropologists to study Neanderthals there was such a gap in mental progress. Only Sub-Saharan Negros in the heart of darkness or the missing link abo's in Australia were more unfathomable.

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~histweb/scothist/brown_k/film/closed/reviews/black_robe.html