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Juano

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It is funny how you people try to play this lie....

Just looking out for the white guy

when in reality you people don't like blacks and it's real obvious.

Are you people blind? You honestly think some white guy is keeping Todd Gurley, Kaeem Hunt, Tyreek Hill, Antonio Brown, Ezekial Elliott, James Conner on the bench? There is a real good reason we don't see any white cornerbacks anymore..........TOO DAMN SLOW!

Give me that white guy who puts these guys on the bench.

Randy Moss
Ronnie Lott
Jim Brown
Deion Sanders
Bo Jackson
Tony Dorsett
Adrian Peterson
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
Gale Sayers
Walter Payton
Eric Dickerson
O.J.Simpson
Terrell Owens
Larry Fitzgerald
Frank Gore
Marshall Faulk
Marcus Allen
Ladainian Tomlinson
Jerome Bettis
Tim Brown
Curtis Martin
Chris Carter

and it goes on and on and on.....

Where are those big and fast white guys? That's right there aren't any.

Watch an NBA game, go to a track meet, any level of football, and you don't see it? Really? Hell yes ya see it, so why act like ya don't?

Blacks are simply built differently, more apt to be be fast, elusive, more agile, can jump and run. Why fight it like ya do?

I can rattle off Lance Alworth, Bobby Morrow, Jerry West. Andrew Thielen, Christian McCaffrey and his grandpa Dave Sime, Hugh "King" McElhenny, "Jaguar" Jon Arnet, Dickie Post, Wes Welker, Valery Borzov and so on, But for every Billy Cannon there are ten Billy Sims.

I know, I gotta be banned again because I live in the real world. That world where ya tell it like it really is.

And don't act like this place is anything more than a bunch of white guys doing all they can to run down blacks, Ive read all that crap ya post about them.

The fastest black NFLers ever

lane

1.Bob Hayes
2.Trindon Holliday
3.Ron Brown
4.Sam Graddy
5.Alvis Whitted
6.Darrel Green
7.Jacoby Ford
8.Willie McGee

All of them ran a sub10.10, except McGee he ran a WR 9.1 yards

Look at the white fastest NFLers

lane

1.John Roderick 9.3
2.Billy Cannon 9.5
3.Cyrus Leland 9.5
4.Don Hutson 9.8
5.Lance Alworth 9.7
6.Don Beebe ?
7.Craig James 9.6
8.John Riggins 9.8....lighter HS

Totally different level of speed there, totally. And it was hard coming up with 8 fast white guys.

Here have another black NFL 100m

lane

1.Curtis Dickey 10.11
2.Willie Gault 10.10
3.Frank Budd 9.2
4.James Jett 10.16
5.James Trapp 10.14
6.Michael Bennett 10.18
7.Tyreek Hill 10.19
8.Jamaal Charles 10.18

Hell, have another.

lane

1.Mel Gray 9.2
2.Isacc Curtis 9.3
3.Travis Williams 9.3
4.Cliff Branch 9.2
5.J.D.Hill 9.3
6.Henry Carr 9.3
7.Ray Norton 9.3
8.Michael Bates 10.11

Want some 9.4;s

lane

1.Homer Jones.....daddy of the spike
2.Charlie Frazier
3.Butch Woolfolk
4.Eugene White
5.Joe Delaney
6.Lawrence Johnson
7.Cyril Pinder
8.Ken Burrough

Try that with with guys, good luck.

I;m a white guy by the way, who remembers the fast guys here in central Cali back in the day....

Leamon King Delano
Tommie Smith Lemoore
Ocie Early Tulare
Sam Davis Edison of Fresno
Smitty Callahan Corcoran
Ken Thomas Hanford
Roger Jones Bakersfield

Where are those speedy white guys? Ok...Darel Newman Reedley.


How about dealing in real life and not that fantasy world you all wander around in.

Don't you guys get tired of never having anyone to debate this stuff with? It isn't boring with all of you....BOO BLACKS.

Nobody here can talk football and track on my level, trust me. And I have blacks in sport totally covered, talking about going back to the first black American athletes, which were jockies and plantation fighters. But I go with real life not that BS you people play.

This is a black thing.

 
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Carolina Speed

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It is funny how you people try to play this lie....

Just looking out for the white guy

when in reality you people don't like blacks and it's real obvious.

Are you people blind? You honestly think some white guy is keeping Todd Gurley, Kaeem Hunt, Tyreek Hill, Antonio Brown, Ezekial Elliott, James Conner on the bench? There is a real god reason we don't see any white cornerbacks anymore..........TOO DAMN SLOW!

Give me that white guy who puts these guys on the bench.

Randy Moss
Ronnie Lott
Jim Brown
Deion Sanders
Bo Jackson
Tony Dorsett
Adrian Peterson
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
Gale Sayers
Walter Payton
Eric Dickerson
O.J.Simpson
Terrell Owens
Larry Fitzgerald
Frank Gore
Marshall Faulk
Marcus Allen
Ladainian Tomlinson
Jerome Bettis
Tim Brown
Curtis Martin
Chris Carter

and it goes on and on and on.....

Where are those big and fast white guys? That's right there aren't any.

Watch an NBA game, go to a track meet, any level of football, and you don't see it? Really? Hell yes ya see it, so why act like ya don't?

Blacks are simply built differently, more apt to be be fast, elusive, more agile, can jump and run. Why fight it like ya do?

I can rattle off Lance Alworth, Bobby Morrow, Jerry West. Andrew Thielen, Christian McCaffrey and his grandpa Dave Sime, Hugh "King" McElhenny, "Jaguar" Jon Arnet, Dickie Post, Wes Welker, Valery Borzov and so on, But for every Billy Cannon there are ten Billy Sims.

I know, I gotta be banned again because I live in the real world. That world where ya tell it like it really is.

And don't act like this place is anything more than a bunch of white guys doing all they can to run down blacks, Ive read all that crap ya post about them.

The fastest black NFLers ever

lane

1.Bob Hayes
2.Trindon Holliday
3.Ron Brown
4.Sam Graddy
5.Alvis Whitted
6.Darrel Green
7.Jacoby Ford
8.Willie McGee

All of them ran a sub10.10, except McGee he ran a WR 9.1 yards

Look at the white fastest NFLers

lane

1.John Roderick 9.3
2.Billy Cannon 9.5
3.Cyrus Leland 9.5
4.Don Hutson 9.8
5.Lance Alworth 9.7
6.Don Beebe ?
7.Craig James 9.6
8.John Riggins 9.8....lighter HS

Totally different level of speed there, totally. And it was hard coming up with 8 fast white guys.

Here have another black NFL 100m

lane

1.Curtis Dickey 10.11
2.Willie Gault 10.10
3.Frank Budd 9.2
4.James Jett 10.16
5.James Trapp 10.14
6.Michael Bennett 10.18
7.Tyreek Hill 10.19
8.Jamaal Charles 10.18

Hell, have another.

lane

1.Mel Gray 9.2
2.Isacc Curtis 9.3
3.Travis Williams 9.3
4.Cliff Branch 9.2
5.J.D.Hill 9.3
6.Henry Carr 9.3
7.Ray Norton 9.3
8.Michael Bates 10.11

Want some 9.4;s

lane

1.Homer Jones.....daddy of the spike
2.Charlie Frazier
3.Butch Woolfolk
4.Eugene White
5.Joe Delaney
6.Lawrence Johnson
7.Cyril Pinder
8.Ken Burrough

Try that with with guys, good luck.

I;m a white guy by the way, who remembers the fast guys here in central Cali back in the day....

Leamon King Delano
Tommie Smith Lemoore
Ocie Early Tulare
Sam Davis Edison of Fresno
Smitty Callahan Corcoran
Ken Thomas Hanford
Roger Jones Bakersfield

Where are those speedy white guys? Ok...Darel Newman Reedley.


How about dealing in real life and not that fantasy world you all wander around in.

Don't you guys get tired of never having anyone to debate this stuff with? It isn't boring with all of you....BOO BLACKS.

Nobody here can talk football and track on my level, trust me. And I have blacks in sport totally covered, talking about going back to the first black American athletes, which were jockies and plantation fighters. But I go with real life not that BS you people play.

This is a black thing.

Please do not ban this person. We need more of this for discussion. Hopefully, this person will stick around for a while. I don't have time to post, but would like to respond later.
 
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It would be cool if we could kick this around but everytime I try.......ban. I MUST run blacks down, or...see ya. That right there says it all. We aren't allowed to have any other opinion but....blacks suck. But this place isn't about that, it's about white athletes not getting the same chances. Then we see Adam Thielen, McCaffrey proving if the talent is there they do get a shot.
 

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It is funny how you people try to play this lie....

Just looking out for the white guy

when in reality you people don't like blacks and it's real obvious.

Are you people blind? You honestly think some white guy is keeping Todd Gurley, Kaeem Hunt, Tyreek Hill, Antonio Brown, Ezekial Elliott, James Conner on the bench? There is a real good reason we don't see any white cornerbacks anymore..........TOO DAMN SLOW!

Give me that white guy who puts these guys on the bench.

Randy Moss
Ronnie Lott
Jim Brown
Deion Sanders
Bo Jackson
Tony Dorsett
Adrian Peterson
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
Gale Sayers
Walter Payton
Eric Dickerson
O.J.Simpson
Terrell Owens
Larry Fitzgerald
Frank Gore
Marshall Faulk
Sir, Don't you think blacks have more than earned
Marcus Allen
Ladainian Tomlinson
Jerome Bettis
Tim Brown
Curtis Martin
Chris Carter

and it goes on and on and on.....

Where are those big and fast white guys? That's right there aren't any.

Watch an NBA game, go to a track meet, any level of football, and you don't see it? Really? Hell yes ya see it, so why act like ya don't?

Blacks are simply built differently, more apt to be be fast, elusive, more agile, can jump and run. Why fight it like ya do?

I can rattle off Lance Alworth, Bobby Morrow, Jerry West. Andrew Thielen, Christian McCaffrey and his grandpa Dave Sime, Hugh "King" McElhenny, "Jaguar" Jon Arnet, Dickie Post, Wes Welker, Valery Borzov and so on, But for every Billy Cannon there are ten Billy Sims.

I know, I gotta be banned again because I live in the real world. That world where ya tell it like it really is.

And don't act like this place is anything more than a bunch of white guys doing all they can to run down blacks, Ive read all that crap ya post about them.

The fastest black NFLers ever

lane

1.Bob Hayes
2.Trindon Holliday
3.Ron Brown
4.Sam Graddy
5.Alvis Whitted
6.Darrel Green
7.Jacoby Ford
8.Willie McGee

All of them ran a sub10.10, except McGee he ran a WR 9.1 yards

Look at the white fastest NFLers

lane

1.John Roderick 9.3
2.Billy Cannon 9.5
3.Cyrus Leland 9.5
4.Don Hutson 9.8
5.Lance Alworth 9.7
6.Don Beebe ?
7.Craig James 9.6
8.John Riggins 9.8....lighter HS

Totally different level of speed there, totally. And it was hard coming up with 8 fast white guys.

Here have another black NFL 100m

lane

1.Curtis Dickey 10.11
2.Willie Gault 10.10
3.Frank Budd 9.2
4.James Jett 10.16
5.James Trapp 10.14
6.Michael Bennett 10.18
7.Tyreek Hill 10.19
8.Jamaal Charles 10.18

Hell, have another.

lane

1.Mel Gray 9.2
2.Isacc Curtis 9.3
3.Travis Williams 9.3
4.Cliff Branch 9.2
5.J.D.Hill 9.3
6.Henry Carr 9.3
7.Ray Norton 9.3
8.Michael Bates 10.11

Want some 9.4;s

lane

1.Homer Jones.....daddy of the spike
2.Charlie Frazier
3.Butch Woolfolk
4.Eugene White
5.Joe Delaney
6.Lawrence Johnson
7.Cyril Pinder
8.Ken Burrough

Try that with with guys, good luck.

I;m a white guy by the way, who remembers the fast guys here in central Cali back in the day....

Leamon King Delano
Tommie Smith Lemoore
Ocie Early Tulare
Sam Davis Edison of Fresno
Smitty Callahan Corcoran
Ken Thomas Hanford
Roger Jones Bakersfield

Where are those speedy white guys? Ok...Darel Newman Reedley.


How about dealing in real life and not that fantasy world you all wander around in.

Don't you guys get tired of never having anyone to debate this stuff with? It isn't boring with all of you....BOO BLACKS.

Nobody here can talk football and track on my level, trust me. And I have blacks in sport totally covered, talking about going back to the first black American athletes, which were jockies and plantation fighters. But I go with real life not that BS you people play.

This is a black thing.

It would be cool if we could kick this around but everytime I try.......ban. I MUST run blacks down, or...see ya. That right there says it all. We aren't allowed to have any other opinion but....blacks suck. But this place isn't about that, it's about white athletes not getting the same chances. Then we see Adam Thielen, McCaffrey proving if the talent is there they do get a shot.
 

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It would be cool if we could kick this around but everytime I try.......ban. I MUST run blacks down, or...see ya. That right there says it all. We aren't allowed to have any other opinion but....blacks suck. But this place isn't about that, it's about white athletes not getting the same chances. Then we see Adam Thielen, McCaffrey proving if the talent is there they do get a shot.
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Look at this video. The Chinese don't think much of blacks either. Can a billion Chinese be wrong?
 

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It would be cool if we could kick this around but everytime I try.......ban. I MUST run blacks down, or...see ya. That right there says it all. We aren't allowed to have any other opinion but....blacks suck. But this place isn't about that, it's about white athletes not getting the same chances. Then we see Adam Thielen, McCaffrey proving if the talent is there they do get a shot.

Again, don't have a lot of time right now, but for every Thielan/McCaffrey there are ten other white players that didn't get the opportunity. McCaffrey only got a shot because his dad played in the NFL. If not, we may have never seen him. No question blacks can play the game, but so can whitey as you've alluded to. I can give you several white RB's coming out HS that were as good or better than CM! The same year as CM!
 
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Stanford has always had a lot of white players, I'm not buying his dad was why CM got a shot. The guy can play.

The thing with white RB's is they rarely have that size/speed combo. They are a big sluggest thumber or a smallish quickster, we just don't see those 220/4.5 white guys. While seeing tons of big fast black guys.
 
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So who can tell me that white RB who ran a world record 100 before his NFL days?
 
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I think there will probably be plenty of responses to this thread, so I'm going to leave just this one thought, and it's a very general one: at certain positions, particularly on defense, the only white players in the NFL are superstars. That makes for an odd looking curve. I discovered this a few years ago when looking at the NFL leaders in sacks. Something like 6 of the top 12 in the league were white, then there was not another white player until somewhere around 35th. That's a very weird grouping near the top, then basically nothing after it.

Okay, one more thought. "... a smallish quickster"? You mean like Joe Washington?
 

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Here is what is going to happen with this thread, nearly everyone of you is going to get sucked into details and while those are fine they never challenge the legitimacy of the recruiting system and then tempers will flare over who runs which 40 speed and then juano will be banned and we sit in a right wing echo chamber satisfied with our echo chamber.

That is all BS, listen up, the recruiting system is corrupt and broken we have legitimate questions that cut straight to the crux of the matter, if juano wants to defend the corruption it is his right but he is wrong.

I've known the recruiting system is corrupted and have known this since 1988 when I watched a bunch of hapless white gimps gush over a black player who could not break your granny's arm tackle and who was a mental rock get a full ride to Kansas where even the DWF coaches realized this and moved him to CB where your granny as QB could move him with any fake she could manage. The white FB who could beat water out of a rock who gashed every defense between the tackles (this enabled the black kid to get the edge) did not get any offers. So these details revealed to me the corruptness of the recruiting system.
 
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Juano

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I think there will probably be plenty of responses to this thread, so I'm going to leave just this one thought, and it's a very general one: at certain positions, particularly on defense, the only white players in the NFL are superstars. That makes for an odd looking curve. I discovered this a few years ago when looking at the NFL leaders in sacks. Something like 6 of the top 12 in the league were white, then there was not another white player until somewhere around 35th. That's a very weird grouping near the top, then basically nothing after it.

Okay, one more thought. "... a smallish quickster"? You mean like Joe Washington?

Danny Woodhead, Dickie Post, "Jaguar" Jon Arnett.
 
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Juano

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Here is what is going to happen with this thread, nearly everyone of you is going to get sucked into details and while those are fine they never challenge the legitimacy of the recruiting system and then tempers will flare over who runs which 40 speed and then juano will be banned and we sit in a right wing echo chamber satisfied with our echo chamber.

That is all BS, listen up, the recruiting system is corrupt and broken we have legitimate questions that cut straight to the crux of the matter, if juano wants to defend the corruption it is his right but he is wrong.

I've known the recruiting system is corrupted and have known this since 1988 when I watched a bunch of hapless white gimps gush over a black player who could not break your granny's arm tackle and who was a mental rock get a full ride to Kansas where even the DWF coaches realized this and moved him to CB where your granny as QB could move him with any fake she could manage. The white FB who could beat water out of a rock who gashed every defense between the tackles (this enabled the black kid to get the edge) did not get any offers. So these details revealed to me the corruptness of the recruiting system.

I'm more about why the disrespect for blacks here? Are they the ones corrupting any systems? There is an attempt here to try and sell one thing while something else is actually going on. How can ya visit a Chiefs forum and not find Chiefs fans talking up Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt? What did they ever do to deserve being ignored?

Very obvious this is a run down black people site, why?

Banning posters simply because they can't see any reason to disrespect blacks., what message does that send?
 

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Stanford has always had a lot of white players, I'm not buying his dad was why CM got a shot. The guy can play.

The thing with white RB's is they rarely have that size/speed combo. They are a big sluggest thumber or a smallish quickster, we just don't see those 220/4.5 white guys. While seeing tons of big fast black guys.
We can name numerous white high school RB's with that size and speed in HS who were turned into LB's in college, but for all that we name you're not going to admit it?
There's probably 100 in Pennsylvania alone that Jo Pa turned into LB's at Penn State or worse yet, never got recruited. No matter how many we mention, you'll never own up to it?
 

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Amazing how black guys used to be too stupid to play QB and white guys used to be fast enough to run with a ball, then that was suddenly reversed. Its almost as if perception of peoples abilities changed as opposed to actual physical traits.
 

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We can name numerous white high school RB's with that size and speed in HS who were turned into LB's in college, but for all that we name you're not going to admit it?
There's probably 100 in Pennsylvania alone that Jo Pa turned into LB's at Penn State or worse yet, never got recruited. No matter how many we mention, you'll never own up to it?
Not from PA, but Dan Connor 6'2 240 comes mind, I think rushed for over 7,000 yards in HS, was moved to LB like so many others. I can't verify his forty, it's been a awhile, but maybe someone here can. Still doesn't matter how many we give you, you won't admit it?
I haven't run down any black players, but the purpose here is not to praise black players either, however we do give credit where it's due. Mahomes is playing well and so far has shown signs of a good QB, but he has a long way to go.
 

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Hey, this guy's been trolling here since 2005, he makes the same ignorant arguments every time, distorting what we stand for and never acknowledges a single point we make even though he's pretty old and has a lot of knowledge of great White athletes from the past. I vowed a long time ago that he wouldn't be allowed to post here and I've just banned him (yet again). If you want to keep this thread going by continuing to make points that's fine, but this individual is never going to be a poster here, even as a token troll.
 

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Hey, this guy's been trolling here since 2005, he makes the same ignorant arguments every time, distorting what we stand for and never acknowledges a single point we make even though he's pretty old and has a lot of knowledge of great White athletes from the past. I vowed a long time ago that he wouldn't be allowed to post here and I've just banned him (yet again). If you want to keep this thread going by continuing to make points that's fine, but this individual is never going to be a poster here, even as a token troll.
Crap! I wanted him to the Matt Jones video and respond!
 

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Crap! I wanted him to the Matt Jones video and respond!

He never concedes anything, he's like dealing with a robot that can only spout the same few talking points over and over again. That Matt Jones highlight video has been posted here several times and he's seen it before. He still undoubtedly thinks Matt Jones should have been a tight end, people like him are incapable of taking off their ideological (anti-White) blinders for even a moment.

I know it's kind of fun to spar with trolls at times, but this is a troll-free forum by design. If we can't keep this site vibrant without the presence of trolls, then that's on us.

BTW, the amount of time I've spent deleting trolls and spammers over the years is considerable. There are hundreds of IP addresses from third world countries that I've banned just since we switched to new forum software in 2016 after the previous software was ruined by spammers and hackers. As I came on the site half an hour ago there was a spammer posting crap that had to be deleted. It's a pain in the ass but I'm going to keep CF spammer free and troll free.
 
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One of the telltale signs of this guy (who called himself Brutus when he first began his trolling here) is his lists like in his initial post. It never occurs to him to wonder why his list of fast White men essentially stops 50 years ago other than a couple from the '80s. Why no fast White men since then? Is it possible that the same kind of affirmative action and social engineering that began in society in general 50 years ago was also applied to sports such as track and football? He's incapable of seeing, or admitting, something so basic and obvious.
 
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Not from PA, but Dan Connor 6'2 240 comes mind, I think rushed for over 7,000 yards in HS, was moved to LB like so many others. I can't verify his forty, it's been a awhile, but maybe someone here can. Still doesn't matter how many we give you, you won't admit it?
I haven't run down any black players, but the purpose here is not to praise black players either, however we do give credit where it's due. Mahomes is playing well and so far has shown signs of a good QB, but he has a long way to go.
Don, was I correct about Connor being a great, big and fast HS RB in PA? I know there are others, but he came to mind?
The genius was saying there were no big fast white guys. M Jones, Dan Connor, Kuechly running down black NFL RB's from behind every week, etc.
 
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Brutus here always just loads up the straw men and goes from there. He lists a bunch of excellent black players and states that "white guys couldn't replace them!" or some such. That is never the case. Sure, we sometimes lament the black superstars, but don't say "they suck!" Were talking about the endless sea of black mediocrity that overflows the league in perpetuity. What, no white guys better than S- Ron Parker of the Chiefs? We can site hordes of black players in the league now or over the last 20 years that really have no business pulling a paycheck while countless (better) white players have been weeded out at Pop Warner, middle school, high school, and college levels.
 

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Exactly right, Football Dad, he uses the same few strawman arguments over and over.

He didn't mention Jeremy Wariner, who won 400 meter gold at the 2004 Olympics, yet was forced to be a walk on football player at Baylor!!! And this after being a decorated Texas high school sprint champion.

And Wariner received very little acclaim after breaking through and winning gold. NBC gave his race minimal coverage. Now if he had been a black QB breaking through, or a black hockey player, or. . . a thousand other examples could be cited.
 
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