Pavlik and.......Pacman 5/7/2011!

Majority Decision WIN for Pavlik!

Not his best effort, gotta give Lopez much credit for giving Pavlik a real fight. Pavlik's got a long way in regaining that 2007 form.Edited by: j41181
 
Kelly is starting to shake off the rust, dropping a great left hook!
 
Pavlik to a few rounds to shake off the rust, but he looked like his old self in the 10th round.

Had it been a 12 round fight, he would have stopped his opponent.
 
And by the way, I think Mosely is not a guy to make the villain, he seems like a decent sort to me. And I like the way he pounded that cheating Mexican with the loaded gloves.
 
Mosley while not the level of cheat Margarito is, is still a guy who was involved in a Balco probe and clearly was on PED's for years until Balco was shutdown. Immediately after the scandal he shrank and lost his weightlifter build. Let's not let Mosley get nominated for sainthood. I thought both subjects looked flat in their fights. Pacman probably did have issues with his legs as he looked relatively immobile and was only fast with his hands. Pavlik to me looks like a shot fighter compared to the Pavlik that walked through contenders and Jermaine Taylor. This guy that Pavlik fought was only an arm puncher and he upset Pavlik's rhythm until the last 3rd of the fight. In the past Pavlik would have taken him out by the 4th round.
 
A couple of things after finding my way home on two legs. Just kidding.

1st, this was a good outing for Kelly after going thrue alcohol rehab,and not fighting in over a year. It took a couple of rounds to shake the cobb webs loose. Parody, is right, if this fight went over 10 rounds. Lopez would have KO'd. Its good that Kelly did not get a taxi cab driver as his 1st opponent back. It will pay off it the long term.

Jorge Arce gave an inspired performance in KO'ing an up and coming young affelito. Arce, a Mexican, who is 31 yrs old(ancient in this weight class) reminded me of a Roberto Duran, who reminded calm, after being clipped in the fight and willed his way to an epic KO over a talked about Vasquez.

Manny played a smart game. He know that sour Shane had KO power in the beginning of the fight, but fought intelligently. That knock down of Shane came out of nowhere, thus, had Shane in survival mode the rest of the fight. Pacman, as always had the energy and stamina chasing down Shane who, like I said was in survival mode to last the fight. Manny is a great fighter! Manny said the craps in his legs hinder his performance, if so, what a fighter.

Very satified with the outcome of the card, especially considering I paid only 12.95 for beer and entertainment!
 
The Hock said:
And by the way, I think Mosely is not a guy to make the villain, he seems like a decent sort to me. And I like the way he pounded that cheating Mexican with the loaded gloves.
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The Hock, remember sour shane, admittely took BAlCO Roids after he was diposed in a grand jury over his involvement with BALCO before and during the 2nd De Lay Hoya fight, which I believed Oscar won. It was unreal the burst of energy and power shane had in the last 3 rounds of the 2nd De Lay Hoya fight. F'ing cheater.

Oscar never made a deal of it, because he had been friends with shane since childhood. Hopefully after tonight(losing to Pacman) we won't have see this scumbag again in the ring. Good riddence.
 
Just a little word about Pacquiao.

From my posts, most of Youare probably awarethat I despise Asians. If You have resided in or visited Australia, especially any larger urban areas,then Youshallunderstand the reasonswhichunderpinsuch "distaste".

The media blatantly uses Pacquiao to divert attention from the ineluctable fact that the heavyweight divisionis dominated by the Klitschko brothers and other eastern European fighters. All of this constant "pound for pound"hype wouldn't be trundled out if the heavyweight champions were black. Pacquiao is conveniently lauded as "the world's greatest boxer" and is purposely overexposed as the so-called "face of boxing" - for example, his ugly mughas appearedon the cover of Time magazine - while the heavyweights are virtually ignored (andon the occasions that they are not, the heavyweights are dismissed as "boring" and "weak").

The second story in tonight's sports bulletin here in Australia (well, at least the one I glanced at)announced that "Magnificent Manny Pacquiao has retained his world welterweight title!". If the Klitschkos are fighting, however, the TV media are eerily silent.

For me, Pacquiao is just another non-White who is foisted upon White kids as a figure for admiration. Black, Asian, Arab, Paki, or anything else- it's all the same. Any non-White "hero" is detrimental to the White cause (if such a thing even bloody exists in the vapid modern European "mind").

As for Pacquiao's supposed class and integrity, didn't he open his squeaky trap last year to "endorse" certain Democrat candidates in the United States? Nowthat'spretty sagacious stuff for a fellow who is actually a Filipino congressman...

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http://www.opposingviews.com/i/egomaniac-manny-pacquiao-thinks-he-influenced-u-s-elections

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/04/manny-pacquiao-i-helped-j_n_779018.html
 
Didn't watch the Pacquiao/Mosely fightbecause I didn't care who won. But from what I've been reading it was a tipcial overhyped nonwhite fight, with overhyped nonwhite fighters and the tipcial meda frenzy surrounding it.
The fight itself was a tipcial nonwhite fight that had the fans booing by the fourth round.
 
Also the media have been quick this morning to point out that the fans lastnight were not booing Paquiao or the fight, but were booing Mosely's lack of effort.
As if they knew what was going through the mind of every fan in the arena....Edited by: lost
 
Rebaljo, I don't agree with your post at all. I highly doubt the media is using Pacquiao to divert attention away from the Klitschko brothers. That's not their MO and it never will be. Manny is a rare Filipino champion and that's where that comes in. The Klitschko will always be hated by the DWF's and media simply because of their skin color. Anytime Pacquiao beats another afflete it shows just how poor boxers most blacks are. In my opinion, Wladimir is number 1 pound for pound in the world right now.
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I think the media in general tries to promote the idea that Blacks are superior athletes to all other races, and particularly against Whites.

I don't think Pacquiao gets special attention because the media wants to further embarrass Whites, he gets attention because he's quite simply one of the greatest boxers in recent memory -- all time, even -- from any weight class.

Yes, the media is racist against the Klitschkos but I don't think Asians as a group are not promoted by the media to be anything special athletically. Latinos aren't promoted as an athletically-superior group, either.

Physically, Hispanics and Asians aren't trumpeted by the media as being better than Whites -- only Blacks are given this spurious honor.

The fact that Hispanics and Asians routinely own Blacks in the ring and in the case of Hispanics on the soccer field especially, it just goes to show that the entire idea of Blacks being better overall athletes is patently ridiculous.

So, there's nothing wrong with enjoying the fact that Pacquiao kicks any other overhyped (ahem, Merriweather) Black ass.
 
Rebajlo said:
The media blatantly uses Pacquiao to divert attention from the ineluctable fact that the heavyweight division is dominated by the Klitschko brothers and other eastern European fighters. All of this constant "pound for pound" hype wouldn't be trundled out if the heavyweight champions were black. Pacquiao is conveniently lauded as "the world's greatest boxer" and is purposely overexposed as the so-called "face of boxing" - for example, his ugly mug has appeared on the cover of Time magazine - while the heavyweights are virtually ignored (and on the occasions that they are not, the heavyweights are dismissed as "boring" and "weak").
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Excellent post!
 
GiovaniMarcon said:
I think the media in general tries to promote the idea that Blacks are superior athletes to all other races, and particularly against Whites.

I don't think Pacquiao gets special attention because the media wants to further embarrass Whites, he gets attention because he's quite simply one of the greatest boxers in recent memory -- all time, even -- from any weight class.

Yes, the media is racist against the Klitschkos but I don't think Asians as a group are not promoted by the media to be anything special athletically. Latinos aren't promoted as an athletically-superior group, either.

Physically, Hispanics and Asians aren't trumpeted by the media as being better than Whites -- only Blacks are given this spurious honor.

The fact that Hispanics and Asians routinely own Blacks in the ring and in the case of Hispanics on the soccer field especially, it just goes to show that the entire idea of Blacks being better overall athletes is patently ridiculous.

So, there's nothing wrong with enjoying the fact that Pacquiao kicks any other overhyped (ahem, Merriweather) Black ass.
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I agree.

Most of the Jewish Supremacists in the media like Teddy Atlas and Al Bernstein and the Ring writers like Willaim Dettloff, Eric Raskin, and Michael Rosenthal have generally been unfairly negative about Pacquiao.

At the same time, they've always lavished undeserved praise on negro boxers.

And the TV commentators like Bernstein and Kellerman ALWAYS sound like they're rooting for the negro boxer, regardless of whether he's fighting a Hispanic, Asian or White opponent.

That being said, they are far more negative toward white boxers like the Klitschkos than they are against Asians and Hispanics. They do support Asians and Hispanics when they are fighting White boxers.
 
When Joe Calzaghe put on a boxing clinic and decimated Roy (Superman ) Jones it was downplayed by most of the media and many fans.

After all, they said, Jones was 39, going downhill and his best years were behind him.

So, the 37 Joe C. beat up an old man. Big deal. So what! Nobody cares!

Bad, bad, bad for boxing.

Pac-Man pounds a 39 year old, past his prime fighter, it's great for boxing and everyone gushes over Manny.

Just sayin.
 
Bart said:
When Joe Calzaghe put on a boxing clinic and decimated Roy (Superman ) Jones it was downplayed by most of the media and many fans.



After all, they said, Jones was 39, going downhill and his best years were behind him.



So, the 37 Joe C. beat up an old man. Big deal. So what! Nobody cares!



Bad, bad, bad for boxing.



Pac-Man pounds a 39 year old, past his prime fighter, it's great for boxing and everyone gushes over Manny.



Just sayin.
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I think a better win for Joe was the way he totally dominated Jeff Lacy. Lacy was young and considered the superior fighter by almost everyone. Joe toyed with him and landed three times as many punches. Joe destroyed the fraud but before the fight no one was giving him a chance based solely on his skin color. Joe beat Hopkins fairly easily and even though he's old he's probably still in his prime.
 
I still think Pavlik could benefit from a top trainer joining Leow. Both Kelly and Leow could improve their game with new insight and approach. Roach, Steward and that hot new mexican trainer from Oxnard Ca comes to mind.
 
If Pavlik regains his old form and skills there is no doubt in my mind that he can compete for a belt at super middleweight. I don't know if he can beat Bute and Froch but he'd definitely make a fight of it. Boxrec now has Kelly ranked at #4.
 
Yeah, its going to be a steep climb, but I think Kelly's is only 24 yrs old. He is going to have add new dimensions to his game, like that great left hook he was displaying last night.

If I was his trainer, developing this left jab would be my top priority. Kelly has long arms, if he can it make into a telephone poll like weapon, he could hang with all of the top Super middleweights.
 
Westside, Kelly is 29 years old. That's still young for a boxer in any division. He'll be fighting at super middleweight which is possibly the deepest division in all of boxing right now. Lucian Bute and Froch will be extremely tough fights for him.
 
Thanks WA 33, for the correction. Next big fights are Ward v Abraham and Froch v Johnson. I am confident that Frochy will emerge victorous. Abraham not so sure, Hopefully he has a plan B.

Abraham will have to pull a "Roberto Duran" in the first Leonard fight to win. Just smother and attack Ward's rib cage. He can not attempt to box Ward. He needs to make it phone both warfare, never let up and attack. He will have to be supremely conditioned to carry it out though. We shall see.
 
GiovaniMarcon- It's really jewish writers, jewish announcers, orinfluential jews in sportswho try to promote the superior black athlete myth. Jews seem tolike seeingblacks being physically dominant over European caucasians. Blacks are the Jew's new Golem, that jews can use to attack European caucasians.
 
I posted a perfect free stream to the Pacman fight here. Not one person said thanks. Again.
 
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