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Reading the comments section of the Charlotte Observer, people aren't so entralled with Cam Newton anymore. Another loss or two and they'll want him benched from what I read.

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It was an below average week, with some positives interspersed …

New England’s performance against Miami’s dermally-opaque defense was impressive in the first half, before fizzling after halftime. In the absence of Mankins and Gronkowski, New England started 7 whites on offense (Brady, Welker, Edelman, Vollmer, Connolly, Wendell and Solder) and 3 on defense (Scott, Ninkovich, and Gregory). Also, did anyone notice that with the signing of FB James Develin, the Patriots currently have 25 whites signed to their 53-man roster?

During the game, even the Africa-First, Casteon Sleestak, Danielle Dingleberrydork, continually admitted that Wes Welker was being “bracketedâ€￾ by two defenders on nearly every snap. Despite this attention, “The Patriot Missleâ€￾ was targeted 18 times, catching 12 passes for 103 yards and a TD, bringing his season total to 92 catches, 1,064 yards and 4 TD’s. Unfortunately, the lightning-fast receiver dropped a very catchable ball (albeit in traffic) on what would have been his second TD of the afternoon…

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CAPTION: Another Drubbing of His Former Team

Without Gronkowski, Edelman received plenty of snaps, but failed to produce. Thankfully, despite the constant lamentations of Dierdorf and Gumble, Brandon Lloyd was only targeted once (in the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] quarter). Woodhead totaled 40 yards on 8 touches, but Miami’s stout defense was great against the run and screen passes.

As JimmyC mentioned earlier, Brian Hartline was underthrown and overthrown on three occasions after flying past Talib. Had those long bombs actually connected, the former Buckeye could have easily had 150-200 yards. Still, he managed 5 catches for 84 yards and a toe-tapping sideline grab that even made Dierdorf furl his wooly brow in surprise…

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CAPTION: Tannehill Overthrows Hartline for Another TD

Former Raider, DE Trevor Scott, had a nice outing in place of Chandler Jones, tallying 3 tackles, 2 sacks, and a forced fumble that lead to a turnover. Jones has had a nice rookie season, but hopefully this performance will help Scott to feature more heavily down the line…

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CAPTION: Trevor Scott Strip-Sack

Aside from Tannehill’s short TD run, Ninkovich played well on the edge. Steve Gregory was great in coverage, as the Dolphins barely able to throw to the left side of the defense. Arkansas rookie, Jake Bequette, also received a few snaps at DE. After years of mediocrity, the Patriot defense is actually playing well overall (which, in turn, helps their white-friendly offense get back onto the field), with some of their black players actually resembling professional defenders. Rookie CB Alphonzo Dennard, DT Vince Wilfork, and LB’s Jerod Mayo and the super-sluggish, obese Brandon Spikes have been surprisingly good of late.

I noticed that during the Patriots-Dolphins halftime highlight package shown by CBS, a clip was shown of Dolphin punter Brandon Fields bobbling the snap, then running after the ball before being tackled for huge loss. Shannon Sharpe, the lispy, Ebonics-articulating dullard, immediately belched out: “Mehn, dat dude iz so slow!!â€￾ [Shrieks of laughter from Marino, Brown, Esiason, and Cowturd ensued].

Speaking of Bill Cowher, I find the puzzling love-affair between the brainsick, bug-eyed chimp, “Jimmy-Wigâ€￾ Harbaugh, and his effeminate-voiced black QB, Colin Kaepernick, to be highly reminiscent of Cowher’s (homoerotic?) relationship with Kordell Stewart. Before the game, Harbaugh was seen “pumping upâ€￾ Kaepernick by ferociously pounding his shoulder pads. These two have a very strange dynamic...so much so that I actually feel sorry for Kaepernick, who seems like an alright guy thus far…

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CAPTION: Jimmy-Wig’s “Le Coup de Foudreâ€￾

The 49ers' loss to the far-whiter Rams was enjoyable, particularly Harbaugh’s priceless grimace as the final field goal was scored and his black-sodden roster had again failed to defeat the “lowlyâ€￾ Rams (without their best player, Amendola, no less). Aside from Justin Smith and 2 white offensive lineman, this team contains nothing of value.

In a similar “Old White Guy with a Maniacal Black Obsessionâ€￾ vein, “Plantation Peteâ€￾ Carroll and his nasty gaggle of chocolate-laced thugs managed another last-second win…

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CAPTION: “Plantation Peteâ€￾ With his Pet Doggie, “Black Russell Terrierâ€￾

The most disturbing facet of “2012 Seahawks, Inc.â€￾ isn’t their wigger coach, or their Black Power roster…but their retch-prompting “12[SUP]th[/SUP] Manâ€￾ fanbase, many of whom made the trip to Chicago to “root onâ€￾ their favorite florescent-green-sporting Negroes. The despicable nature of these semi-human turds is rivaled only by Pittsburg’s terrible-towel-waving “Zulu Nationâ€￾ rabble.

Jason Witten, who in 2007 became the first white TE to achieve a 1,000-yard receiving season since Mark Bavaro in 1986, is now closing in on the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] of his dazzling career. For the season, he has 88 catches for 818 yards, needing to average 46 yards / game through the remaining 4 contests. If only WR Cole Beasley would receive more playing time, the Cowboys would be a much more entertaining team to watch…

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CAPTION: Witten – 6 Catches, 108 Yards

Although the Texans and Broncos both won again, neither game was very good for our cause. “The Nordic Beast,â€￾ JJ Watt, managed another fine game…

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CAPTION: 5 Tackles, 1 Sack, 2 PD

Aside from James Casey’s short TD, it was also nice to see linebacker Barrett Ruud getting some playing time in place of Brian Cushing…

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CAPTION: Ruud Registers a Sack

As for the murder-suicide of Chiefs linebacker, Jovan Belcher…I found the only “tragedyâ€￾ here to be the fact that this violent thug was permitted to breed prior to his death. I wonder how many white linebackers were better than Belcher and more deserving of his roster spot? In a fair NFL, Belcher's crime would be another statistic…but because of the Caste System protecting his football career from superior white athletes, his act of extreme cowardice is viewed throughout this twisted nation as “heartbreaking.â€￾ Since Belcher shot himself in the head right in front of Crennell and Pioli…I find it highly ironic that, for once, a coach and general manager had to “learn the hard wayâ€￾ with concern to the omnipresent plague of black societal dysfunction.
 
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I am not slighting John Kuh's abilities but it is a sad day for caste footballers when he gets 3 more carries than Toby Gerhart.

In case you haven't noticed, the fellow ahead of Toby Gerhart on the depth chart is pretty good. It was somewhat strange that Gerhart wasn't drafted by somebody who needed a RB to come in and start.

It has also been said (by J.B. Cash) on the Forum that this was not so strange after all.
 

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It was an below average week, with some positives interspersed …

New England’s performance against Miami’s dermally-opaque defense was impressive in the first half, before fizzling after halftime. In the absence of Mankins and Gronkowski, New England started 7 whites on offense (Brady, Welker, Edelman, Vollmer, Connolly, Wendell and Solder) and 3 on defense (Scott, Ninkovich, and Gregory). Also, did anyone notice that with the signing of FB James Develin, the Patriots currently have 25 whites signed to their 53-man roster?

During the game, even the Africa-First, Casteon Sleestak, Danielle Dingleberrydork, continually admitted that Wes Welker was being “bracketed†by two defenders on nearly every snap. Despite this attention, “The Patriot Missle†was targeted 18 times, catching 12 passes for 103 yards and a TD, bringing his season total to 92 catches, 1,064 yards and 4 TD’s. Unfortunately, the lightning-fast receiver dropped a very catchable ball (albeit in traffic) on what would have been his second TD of the afternoon…

davis_patsfish3_spts.r.jpg

CAPTION: Another Drubbing of His Former Team

Without Gronkowski, Edelman received plenty of snaps, but failed to produce. Thankfully, despite the constant lamentations of Dierdorf and Gumble, Brandon Lloyd was only targeted once (in the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] quarter). Woodhead totaled 40 yards on 8 touches, but Miami’s stout defense was great against the run and screen passes.

As JimmyC mentioned earlier, Brian Hartline was underthrown and overthrown on three occasions after flying past Talib. Had those long bombs actually connected, the former Buckeye could have easily had 150-200 yards. Still, he managed 5 catches for 84 yards and a toe-tapping sideline grab that even made Dierdorf furl his wooly brow in surprise…

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CAPTION: Tannehill Overthrows Hartline for Another TD

Former Raider, DE Trevor Scott, had a nice outing in place of Chandler Jones, tallying 3 tackles, 2 sacks, and a forced fumble that lead to a turnover. Jones has had a nice rookie season, but hopefully this performance will help Scott to feature more heavily down the line…

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CAPTION: Trevor Scott Strip-Sack

Aside from Tannehill’s short TD run, Ninkovich played well on the edge. Steve Gregory was great in coverage, as the Dolphins barely able to throw to the left side of the defense. Arkansas rookie, Jake Bequette, also received a few snaps at DE. After years of mediocrity, the Patriot defense is actually playing well overall (which, in turn, helps their white-friendly offense get back onto the field), with some of their black players actually resembling professional defenders. Rookie CB Alphonzo Dennard, DT Vince Wilfork, and LB’s Jerod Mayo and the super-sluggish, obese Brandon Spikes have been surprisingly good of late.

I noticed that during the Patriots-Dolphins halftime highlight package shown by CBS, a clip was shown of Dolphin punter Brandon Fields bobbling the snap, then running after the ball before being tackled for huge loss. Shannon Sharpe, the lispy, Ebonics-articulating dullard, immediately belched out: “Mehn, dat dude iz so slow!!†[Shrieks of laughter from Marino, Brown, Esiason, and Cowturd ensued].

Speaking of Bill Cowher, I find the puzzling love-affair between the brainsick, bug-eyed chimp, “Jimmy-Wig†Harbaugh, and his effeminate-voiced black QB, Colin Kaepernick, to be highly reminiscent of Cowher’s (homoerotic?) relationship with Kordell Stewart. Before the game, Harbaugh was seen “pumping up†Kaepernick by ferociously pounding his shoulder pads. These two have a very strange dynamic...so much so that I actually feel sorry for Kaepernick, who seems like an alright guy thus far…

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CAPTION: Jimmy-Wig’s “Le Coup de Foudreâ€

The 49ers' loss to the far-whiter Rams was enjoyable, particularly Harbaugh’s priceless grimace as the final field goal was scored and his black-sodden roster had again failed to defeat the “lowly†Rams (without their best player, Amendola, no less). Aside from Justin Smith and 2 white offensive lineman, this team contains nothing of value.

In a similar “Old White Guy with a Maniacal Black Obsession†vein, “Plantation Pete†Carroll and his nasty gaggle of chocolate-laced thugs managed another last-second win…

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CAPTION: “Plantation Pete†With his Pet Doggie, “Black Russell Terrierâ€

The most disturbing facet of “2012 Seahawks, Inc.†isn’t their wigger coach, or their Black Power roster…but their retch-prompting “12[SUP]th[/SUP] Man†fanbase, many of whom made the trip to Chicago to “root on†their favorite florescent-green-sporting Negroes. The despicable nature of these semi-human turds is rivaled only by Pittsburg’s terrible-towel-waving “Zulu Nation†rabble.

Jason Witten, who in 2007 became the first white TE to achieve a 1,000-yard receiving season since Mark Bavaro in 1986, is now closing in on the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] of his dazzling career. For the season, he has 88 catches for 818 yards, needing to average 46 yards / game through the remaining 4 contests. If only WR Cole Beasley would receive more playing time, the Cowboys would be a much more entertaining team to watch…

NyCof.St.58.jpeg

CAPTION: Witten – 6 Catches, 108 Yards

Although the Texans and Broncos both won again, neither game was very good for our cause. “The Nordic Beast,†JJ Watt, managed another fine game…

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CAPTION: 5 Tackles, 1 Sack, 2 PD

Aside from James Casey’s short TD, it was also nice to see linebacker Barrett Ruud getting some playing time in place of Brian Cushing…

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CAPTION: Ruud Registers a Sack

As for the murder-suicide of Chiefs linebacker, Jovan Belcher…I found the only “tragedy†here to be the fact that this violent thug was permitted to breed prior to his death. I wonder how many white linebackers were better than Belcher and more deserving of his roster spot? In a fair NFL, Belcher's crime would be another statistic…but because of the Caste System protecting his football career from superior white athletes, his act of extreme cowardice is viewed throughout this twisted nation as “heartbreaking.†Since Belcher shot himself in the head right in front of Crennell and Pioli…I find it highly ironic that, for once, a coach and general manager had to “learn the hard way†with concern to the omnipresent plague of black societal dysfunction.
Thrashen, another great and humorous post! A great way to start my week. Yes our twisted nation is being further lead astray with bobbi costas pleading that the gun was the reason why the "misunderstood big affelet" killed his girlfriend and mother of his offspring. Rather than the troubled criminal mind infesting his cranium. Oh well, a potential spot opens up for a more deserving White player. We can hope.
 

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In case you haven't noticed, the fellow ahead of Toby Gerhart on the depth chart is pretty good. It was somewhat strange that Gerhart wasn't drafted by somebody who needed a RB to come in and start.

It has also been said (by J.B. Cash) on the Forum that this was not so strange after all.

In case you haven't noticed, Arian Foster is also pretty damn good last time I checked. That hasn't stopped Ben Tate from getting 46 carries in 7 games, with Justin Forsett 59 in 5, so over a 100 carries for the backups, While Foster still has plenty of carries, enough to have well over 1,000 yards and more tds than Peterson. The year before that Foster was out for 3 games but Ben Tate still got plenty of carries when he came back, totaling 175 for the season, so a little over a 100 when Foster was back.

But hey, what would their coaches know? they are only 11-1 this year, going 10-6 last year making the playoffs, and actually winning a game, something the Vikings could only accomplish with Brett Favre who threw for 4 tds in their win, because Peterson's ASTONISHING 2.4 ypc wasn't going to cut it. The Texans did it with TJ Yates, a backup, and a rookie at the time.

The Texans were actually in position to get Gerhart but wound up going with Ben Tate instead. They had no idea of what they had in Foster at the time. Regardless, it would still be a better situation than what he is in right now.
 
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Oh well, a potential spot opens up for a more deserving White player. We can hope.
Not really. The Chiefs promoted career scrub, Brandon Siler as the starter at Belcher's old left inside linebacker spot. The good news is that Cory Greenwood and Andy Studebaker saw the field a bit more often, but not enough, in my opinion. At the game (which I attended) there was no mention of Belcher at all. There was only a moment of silence for victims of domestic violence.
 

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Reading the comments section of the Charlotte Observer, people aren't so entralled with Cam Newton anymore. Another loss or two and they'll want him benched from what I read.

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Yes sCam had an ugly game. The only thing that worked for him were the designed QB runs. Even with the laughably inept Chiefs secondary, the majority of sCam's passing yards (well, 70 of them) were on the last-gasp drive with the Chiefs playing way-back, and the completed hail-Mary that was 10 yards short. sCam overthrew or was way off-target on a TON of throws, even to open receivers. It was nice to see the hated Brady Quinn thoroughly outplay him.
 

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Good to see Nick Foles do so well and get officially promoted over Michael Vick, as I noted in the Eagles thread, but a team to watch now is the Vikings, where Christian Ponder is struggling after starting the season strongly. The clamor is growing stronger to start Joe Webb, and it wouldn't surprise me if Leslie Frazier makes that move before the end of the season with Minnesota falling out of contention, despite his assurances today that he isn't considering benching Ponder.
 

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I am worried about Ponder as well. The Vikings have not done anything to help him out at WR. Jerome Simpson and Michael Jenkins are both garbage players but recieve a minimal amount of blame for the passing game woes. Percy Harvin is a good player but is oft-injured. I would love to see the Vikings draft a someone like Mike Shannahan - a big bodied strong WR with great hands. It would make Ponder's life much easier.

Joe Webb is a typical black quarterback - just go back there and run around like a chicken with your head cut off and hope you get lucky.
 

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Bob Costas getting applause for his supposedly brave statement about gun control is repeating his Olympic performance when he made a point of saying the IOC should've had a commemoration of the Munich massacre during the opening ceremony. Let's see him take an unfashionable position on a major issue and see how brave he is instead of repeating typical Establishment talking points. All these sports commentators have an inferiority complex towards the "serious" MSM news journalists and opinion writers whose approval these mere jock-sniffers crave so much.
 

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Yeah Kaepernik seems to be a decent kid, and I normally don't like to root negatively, but in this case I must, because of the rotten treatment of Alex Smith, and got a real kick out of the blown option play. That close to your own endzone. I mean, what could go wrong?

With the Smith/Kaepernik question, just do the old reverse the races scenario. Would Harharbaugh have done such a thing to his starting QB if Smith were black and Kaepernik white? Never never never never...ever! Psycho's going with the defacto rookie casts a lot of light on the prevailing attitudes and racial politics of the NFL.

On a positive note, it's a pleasure to watch Jason Witten put on a clinic on the near-lost art of catching a pass.
 
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In case you haven't noticed, Arian Foster is also pretty damn good last time I checked. That hasn't stopped Ben Tate from getting 46 carries in 7 games, with Justin Forsett 59 in 5, so over a 100 carries for the backups, While Foster still has plenty of carries, enough to have well over 1,000 yards and more tds than Peterson. The year before that Foster was out for 3 games but Ben Tate still got plenty of carries when he came back, totaling 175 for the season, so a little over a 100 when Foster was back.

But hey, what would their coaches know? they are only 11-1 this year, going 10-6 last year making the playoffs, and actually winning a game, something the Vikings could only accomplish with Brett Favre who threw for 4 tds in their win, because Peterson's ASTONISHING 2.4 ypc wasn't going to cut it. The Texans did it with TJ Yates, a backup, and a rookie at the time.

The Texans were actually in position to get Gerhart but wound up going with Ben Tate instead. They had no idea of what they had in Foster at the time. Regardless, it would still be a better situation than what he is in right now.

If Peterson is healthy and going well, he is going to play almost every down.
 
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Cooper shows his talent again, but he'll never get a chance to start as long as Jackson and Maclin are there other than through injury.

Did you notice how the pompous "self-important prick" (haha, good one) Costas quoted from a Jason Whitlock column when giving his anti-Second Amendent hate spiel. He prefaced by saying he "doesn't always agree" with Whitlock. One can assume that happens on the rare occasions when Whitlock dares to write about black dysfunction (most memorably about the "black Klan") and occasionally notes that White athletes don't always get a fair shake in the NFL.

I came across another MSM commentator who endorsed Whitlock's column with the "I don't always agree with Whitlock" qualification. It was probably for the same reason.
 

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Yeah Kaepernik seems to be a decent kid, and I normally don't like to root negatively, but in this case I must, because of the rotten treatment of Alex Smith, and got a real kick out of the blown option play. That close to your own endzone. I mean, what could go wrong?

With the Smith/Kaepernik question, just do the old reverse the races scenario. Would Harharbaugh have done such a thing to his starting QB if Smith were black and Kaepernik white? Never never never never...ever! Psycho's going with the defacto rookie casts a lot of light on the prevailing attitudes and racial politics of the NFL.

On a positive note, it's a pleasure to watch Jason Witten put on a clinic on the near-lost art of catching a pass.


Very true, and if such a move was even being considered there would be an instantaneous media-orchestrated uproar. All Smith has done is lead his team to victory virtually every game the past two seasons, and done so with efficiency, great stats, and almost no mistakes. What more can you ask of a starting quarterback?

I'm looking forward to the fall of Jim Harbaugh. Unlike his more sensible and stable brother John, Jimmy boy is a soap opera of drama and buffoonery just waiting to unfold.
 

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If Peterson is healthy and going well, he is going to play almost every down.

Like I said, hows that working out for the team as a whole? TJ Yates can win a playoff game with how the Texans run their offense. Arian Foster is an elite back, he has 284 carries, the backups have over 100 in 12 games. Are you saying there is a different set of rules for blacks who back up elite backs?

Christian Ponder has dropped back more than 420 times, they have ran the ball less than 300 times. Scrambles aren't included since those were originally designed passing plays. Schaub has dropped back more than 420 times as well, but they have ran the ball just under 400 times. Balance. With the way the Vikings are they need to be running more than passing.

Like the Texans, they could be using a much more effective 1-2 punch with the running game. Its not like Tate is a speed back (when he was playing earlier), even though he ran faster at the combine, hes consider the slower bruiser type. They need to focus on the running game more taking pressure off of Ponder who is struggling. Its not just about how many yards they have rushing, its about time of possession and touchdowns as well, the Texans are doing better in both areas in the running game.

Yes a great back should get the majority of the carries, and yeah John Riggins said "give me the ball" but even his highest carry season with 375 the backups still had more than 150 rushes. Teams should do what works. They are 3-4 for his 100+ yard games this year. It would be one thing if they didn't have a good back behind him, but they do, and Peterson isn't that great in the passing game, still struggles in pass protection and is averaging 5.4 yards per catch, that is below average. He is egotistical, he said he would rather run without a fullback, despite the fact that close to 1,000 yards have come with a lead blocker and he is averaging 7+ ypc with one, without one he is averaging 3.3 ypc. But hey, at least everything can be about him, people can talk about his 2,000 yard season where he carried the team on his back to an 8-8 record.
 
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With the Smith/Kaepernik question, just do the old reverse the races scenario.

Yes sir the "old reverse the races scenario" is our best tool for argument. It can be applied to literally every aspect of life.
 

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Like I said, hows that working out for the team as a whole? TJ Yates can win a playoff game with how the Texans run their offense. Arian Foster is an elite back, he has 284 carries, the backups have over 100 in 12 games. Are you saying there is a different set of rules for blacks who back up elite backs?

Christian Ponder has dropped back more than 420 times, they have ran the ball less than 300 times. Scrambles aren't included since those were originally designed passing plays. Schaub has dropped back more than 420 times as well, but they have ran the ball just under 400 times. Balance. With the way the Vikings are they need to be running more than passing.

Like the Texans, they could be using a much more effective 1-2 punch with the running game. Its not like Tate is a speed back (when he was playing earlier), even though he ran faster at the combine, hes consider the slower bruiser type. They need to focus on the running game more taking pressure off of Ponder who is struggling. Its not just about how many yards they have rushing, its about time of possession and touchdowns as well, the Texans are doing better in both areas in the running game.

Yes a great back should get the majority of the carries, and yeah John Riggins said "give me the ball" but even his highest carry season with 375 the backups still had more than 150 rushes. Teams should do what works. They are 3-4 for his 100+ yard games this year. It would be one thing if they didn't have a good back behind him, but they do, and Peterson isn't that great in the passing game, still struggles in pass protection and is averaging 5.4 yards per catch, that is below average. He is egotistical, he said he would rather run without a fullback, despite the fact that close to 1,000 yards have come with a lead blocker and he is averaging 7+ ypc with one, without one he is averaging 3.3 ypc. But hey, at least everything can be about him, people can talk about his 2,000 yard season where they went 8-8.


I'd say it's more that there's a special set of rules for elite black players who aren't just elite but who have reached "venerated" status. Peterson is a top back who came back remarkably quickly from a serious knee injury, so now he can do no wrong in the eyes of the team and the media (he missed the team bus last week and allegedly assaulted an employee in a club during the summer, but both incidents were instantly forgotten) and until he begins to obviously slow down he'll pretty much get what he wants as far as how many carries per game and season.

Gerhart was used a lot like Tate before Peterson's comeback from his knee injury, but now he's just a bystander. Of course it sucks but that's how the NFL works. All Toby can do is play out his rookie contract next season (assuming Peterson stays healthy) and then see what he can get on the open market, which may not be much, maybe a deal like Hillis got this season with Kansas City at best.
 

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I see what your saying but I wouldn't say Gerhart was used alot like Tate. When Foster came back from his injury Tate still got about 100 carries the rest of the season. The bulk of Gerhart's carries came when Peterson has been injured, I think around 70 to 80 last year, hard to remember, Peterson hurt his leg/ankle against the Raiders being tackled awkwardly, tried to come back, got his knee bashed in. The season before that was also an ankle problem I believe.Tate was on pace for about 100 carries this season.

Edit: well I guess you were right about Gerhart being used like Tate as far as this season goes, at least the beginning. The first 5 games he was on pace for about 90 carries and then it just stopped down to 1 carry a game. It wasn't until 2 games later that Peterson really started to look elite again putting up big numbers, so it doesn't make that much sense.
 
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In case you haven't noticed, the fellow ahead of Toby Gerhart on the depth chart is pretty good. It was somewhat strange that Gerhart wasn't drafted by somebody who needed a RB to come in and start.

It has also been said (by J.B. Cash) on the Forum that this was not so strange after all.

And in case you haven't noticed Peterson was just as good for several years when Chester Taylor was averaging about 8 carries a game in the back-up role. The only thing that has changed is that the back-up is now white.
 

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I see what your saying but I wouldn't say Gerhart was used alot like Tate. When Foster came back from his injury Tate still got about 100 carries the rest of the season. The bulk of Gerhart's carries came when Peterson has been injured, I think around 70 to 80 last year, hard to remember, Peterson hurt his leg/ankle against the Raiders being tackled awkwardly, tried to come back, got his knee bashed in. The season before that was also an ankle problem I believe.Tate was on pace for about 100 carries this season.

Gerhart had 81 carries his rookie season and was being used a bit more last season until Peterson got hurt and then he was the starter. But now Peterson is a "king" thanks to his fast recovery and will get as many carries as he wants. That's how the NFL works, Gerhart got screwed on draft day and it ain't gonna change until/unless another team wants him as their starter.
 

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Gerhart had 81 carries his rookie season and was being used a bit more last season until Peterson got hurt and then he was the starter. But now Peterson is a "king" thanks to his fast recovery and will get as many carries as he wants. That's how the NFL works, Gerhart got screwed on draft day and it ain't gonna change until/unless another team wants him as their starter.

In that case they should just honor all of Peterson's requests, and take away his lead blocker since he wants to run out of single back sets only. BTW the 81 carries his rookie year were mostly due to injury as well, but I see what you were saying about this year, he was on pace for 90 carries and then it stopped after week 5, down to 1 carry a game, it wasn't until week 7 that Peterson started putting up elite numbers.
 

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Did anyone see that MNF promo with Eli and Griffin? How can anyone in their right mind call that handsome...
 
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