NFL News, Rumors and Musings

[Truthteller]

Thanks WIR, I just looked it up and found him a minute ago. Here he is.

https://goducks.com/sports/football/roster/devon-allen/5338

 

[white is right]

Hatie now makes 5 minority coaches, according to BSPN....I remember watching a All-Star game (Blue-Gray Classic?) in the latter part of the 1990's and there was a full blooded Korean safety from Dartmouth playing, Lloyd Lee. I don't remember it, but a quick search reveals he played a half season for the Chargers. Eventually he did get into coaching into coaching for a while, but I guess the "racist" NFL owners never hired him as HC and he left football in 2018.

The two quick hires in a row are obvious PR window dressing, especially Smith who aside from growing an epic beard and shaving it off for charity during the pandemic did bubkus at Illinois which hasn't been relevant since the bookend era of the "Prime Minister"(Jack Trudeau) and Jeff George(another player of distant Arab ancestry who was viewed as nothing but White).

To be fair to the mysterious "Irishman" he is the kind of hire that has bumped middling Black position and coordinators for head coaching vacancies. He's very young and very smart and really isn't a career football guy less his 15 years apprenticing from a slappy to a postional coach.

 

[Truthteller]

Broncos legendary quarterback/current Caste cuck Jack Elway Jr. and Doug Flutie are also part Arab, so I guess Elway can suddenly be considered a minority front office hire?

Here's a list of Lebanese NFL players and coaches, which includes the previously mentioned Jeff George and coach Abe Gibron, who I remember seeing in a fairly recent documentary (on the defunct NBC Sports Net) about the winless (0-14) expansion, 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Gibron was portrayed as very fat and quite eccentric.

Amazingly, I also know of the #1 player on list, Jimmy Jemail, who played in the 1920's. Back in 2019 I saw him featured on a 1970's game show. He was deep into his 70's at the time and was on because he had been a famous New York Times photographer for 4 or 5 decades. He seemed quite proud of the fact that he was a star in the early days of the NFL.

 

[NikoDuke]

Jets Head Coach Robert Saleh is Lebanese.

Lebanese are considered non White? No one told me... I suspect this is due to 2 factors.

the media defining the narrative as "everyone vs. Legacy Americans" so get as many ethnicities feeling antagonistic towards White American culture.

And because Saleh is Islamic. If he was Christian I suspect he would be categorized differently.

 

[Bucky]

Saleh doesn't pass eye test see @Jerry Reb post on bottom page 264.

 

[Don Wassall]

Arabs are much like Hispanics, they come in lots of different shades and backgrounds. When Tom Flores was head coach of the Raiders almost nothing was said about him being Hispanic, same with QB Jim Plunkett. That all came afterwards as the fake news media became ever more fanatical about creating as much friction as possible between different groups (divide and conquer). Mark Sanchez's background was made a big deal of, but Tony Romo's not at all because of their different appearances.

Doug Flutie and John Elway are Arabs? Ted Williams was Hispanic? It's absurd to think of them as "minorities" or "people of color." It's mostly in the eye test and how people conduct themselves and how they identify, if at all. Arabs shouldn't all be lumped together as non-White when many clearly aren't.

 

[sport historian]

Arabs are much like Hispanics, they come in lots of different shades and backgrounds. When Tom Flores was head coach of the Raiders almost nothing was said about him being Hispanic, same with QB Jim Plunkett. That all came afterwards as the fake news media became ever more fanatical about creating as much friction as possible between different groups (divide and conquer). Mark Sanchez's background was made a big deal of, but Tony Romo's not at all because of their different appearances.

Doug Flutie and John Elway are Arabs? Ted Williams was Hispanic? It's absurd to think of them as "minorities" or "people of color." It's mostly in the eye test and how people conduct themselves and how they identify, if at all. Arabs shouldn't all be lumped together as non-White when many clearly aren't.

I remember when Jim Plunkett won the Heisman in 1970 it was occasionally mentioned he was of Mexican extraction, but little was made of it. He seemed not much different from Joe Theisman and Archie Manning. In the early 70s when sportswriters railed about "All NFL quarterbacks are white," Plunkett (then with the Patriots) was one of the White QBs.

 

[BeyondFedUp]

I remember when Plunkett was with the Raiders and Flores was Head Coach back when I was a kid. I never even thought twice about them. They were good at their jobs and nobody cared about what they were or which racial heritage.

 

[Claimjumper]

There seems to be a 3-pronged attack playing out between local media, national media, and the NFL to try and meme the broncos into selling to a minority owner in light of the Flores fiasco (similar to the Texans but on a larger scale)

The current flavor of the month they are peddling is a guy named Byron Allen, whose total net worth is a meager (in NFL terms) 450 million, which is laughably only 10-15% of the expected selling price when they head to auction and we’ll short of the 30% threshold needed as a majority owner.

if they somehow shoehorn one of these guys in with the financing stretched so thin I could see the broncos floundering for years and decades to come

 

[white is right]

There seems to be a 3-pronged attack playing out between local media, national media, and the NFL to try and meme the broncos into selling to a minority owner in light of the Flores fiasco (similar to the Texans but on a larger scale)

The current flavor of the month they are peddling is a guy named Byron Allen, whose total net worth is a meager (in NFL terms) 450 million, which is laughably only 10-15% of the expected selling price when they head to auction and we’ll short of the 30% threshold needed as a majority owner.

if they somehow shoehorn one of these guys in with the financing stretched so thin I could see the broncos floundering for years and decades to come

Yes there probably isn't one Black business man rich enough to out right own a team. The valuation of teams are an insane 3 Billion plus and in good markets ie Denver it's significantly higher than that.

When the Bills were up for sale every Black celebrity talked about wanting to own the team and when it was all said and done none of them could afford to be anything more than a minority stake holder ie Magic Johnson with the Dodgers.

The NFL may have to change the rules on ownership of teams and allow corporations to own a team as the amount of individuals that can have 51 percent of a team are continually dwindling due to the skyrocketing value of teams.

 

[NikoDuke]

Arabs are much like Hispanics, they come in lots of different shades and backgrounds..

Doug Flutie and John Elway are Arabs? Ted Williams was Hispanic? It's absurd to think of them as "minorities" or "people of color." Arabs shouldn't all be lumped together as non-White when many clearly aren't.

Agreed as I am half middle eastern (Persian on maternal side) and no one would consider me anything but White. Most Arabs and Persians are Caucasians and check off White on census. Try telling an Arab old timer that they aren't White but, people of color and they'd look at you confused.

 

[wile]

https://www.outkick.com/colts-likely-to-trade-or-release-carson-wentz/

No real knowledge of the situation, looks like another franchise that a free agent chooses for the money and not the glory as are most of the teams.

 

[icsept]

Eric Weddle suffered a torn pec and will need surgery. He announced he is re-retiring. Very tough of him to remain in the game despite the injury. (Unlike OBJ).

 

[Bucky]

Eric Weddle suffered a torn pec and will need surgery. He announced he is re-retiring. Very tough of him to remain in the game despite the injury. (Unlike OBJ).

Was a genuine great surprise when Weddle returned for Playoffs after a 2year layoff. Can't emphasize enough how impressive that is. Hope he heals up and enjoys retirement, been a joy to watch him over the years. Now we need Rams to draft Turner, Blankenship, or Koerner.

 

[Phall]

Was a genuine great surprise when Weddle returned for Playoffs after a 2year layoff. Can't emphasize enough how impressive that is. Hope he heals up and enjoys retirement, been a joy to watch him over the years. Now we need Rams to draft Turner, Blankenship, or Koerner.

Weddle is re-retiring to become a high school head coach. Great story arc - wishing him all the success going forward.

 

[Bucky]

Weddle is re-retiring to become a high school head coach. Great story arc - wishing him all the success going forward.

That's awesome to see him and Phillip Rivers coaching HS ball.

 

[Claimjumper]

There seems to be a 3-pronged attack playing out between local media, national media, and the NFL to try and meme the broncos into selling to a minority owner in light of the Flores fiasco (similar to the Texans but on a larger scale)

The current flavor of the month they are peddling is a guy named Byron Allen, whose total net worth is a meager (in NFL terms) 450 million, which is laughably only 10-15% of the expected selling price when they head to auction and we’ll short of the 30% threshold needed as a majority owner.

if they somehow shoehorn one of these guys in with the financing stretched so thin I could see the broncos floundering for years and decades to come

NFL Rule Scrutinized For Limiting Potential Team Bidders


DENVER (CBS4) – In the more than 100-year history of the NFL, there has never been a Black primary owner of a franchise. It’s something commissioner Roger Goodell has said he’d like to see change.

The upcoming sale of the Denver Broncos could be the next opportunity.

“We would love to see a diverse owner of the team, whether that’s a person of color, a female, or a Black man, we think that would be a very positive step for us and something we’ve encouraged,” Goodell said at a press conference ahead of the Super Bowl.

Valued at nearly $4 billion, the franchise could set records with its eventual sale, but the pool of bidders is under more scrutiny than ever. A longtime NFL rule requires a principal owner hold 30% of the equity, which some believe drastically limits the pool of potential bidders.

“I think there’s less than a thousand billionaires in the United States, so you’re not even talking about a small pool, but a bird bath of candidates,” said Darren Duber-Smith, a senior lecturer and sports marketing expert at Metropolitan State University of Denver. “It doesn’t surprise me there aren’t many candidates of diverse backgrounds because, frankly, there are very few candidates to begin with.”

Last Thursday, Ben Fischer of Sports Business Journal reported the NFL could make a one-time exception to waive the rule. League officials have not said they are actively considering such a step, but a waiver could broaden the pool of potential buyers, benefitting interested parties like media mogul Byron Allen, who is preparing a bid, but may not have the money to purchase a majority interest in the team.

A successful bid would make Allen the first Black primary owner in league history. Goodell has said there are other Black potential buyers as well.

“You can’t mathematically reach your diversity goals if they’re impossible to reach,” Duber-Smith said.

Ultimately, the Pat Bowlen Trust has a fiduciary responsibility to pick the highest bid, but a change to the rules could give more and bigger investment groups a chance. Duber-Smith argues a permanent change to the rule would be even more beneficial.

“I don’t see any benefit in having the rule waived one time because you’re going to have this problem the next time a franchise comes around,” he said.

 

[white lightning]

The Minnesota Vikings have a new coach. Let's hope that they stay white friendly on offense and defense. I really want to see both the Vikings & the Bills win a Super
Bowl Championship someday soon. Their cities, states and loyal fan bases deserve it. Vikings & Bills Fans are like Chicago Cubs Fans in Baseball. As loyal as they come!

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...hire-innovative-kevin-oconnell-new-head-coach

 

[Freethinker]

The Minnesota Vikings have a new coach. Let's hope that they stay white friendly on offense and defense. I really want to see both the Vikings & the Bills win a Super
Bowl Championship someday soon. Their cities, states and loyal fan bases deserve it. Vikings & Bills Fans are like Chicago Cubs Fans in Baseball. As loyal as they come!

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...hire-innovative-kevin-oconnell-new-head-coach

Seems like a good hire. The McVey coaching tree might be the most successful one in the NFL. Better than what The Genius or Fat Bastard have been able to produce, despite the media hype.

As an aside, were the only minority hires Hatie Smiff and the White looking nerd with Miami? Hahaha. If so, the BLM loving, kosher media must be apoplectic. They know Hatie is dead on arrival and the other guy will be seen as White for all intents and purposes.

 

[BeyondFedUp]

Seems like a good hire. The McVey coaching tree might be the most successful one in the NFL. Better than what The Genius or Fat Bastard have been able to produce, despite the media hype.

As an aside, were the only minority hires Hatie Smiff and the White looking nerd with Miami? Hahaha. If so, the BLM loving, kosher media must be apoplectic. They know Hatie is dead on arrival and the other guy will be seen as White for all intents and purposes.

Good way to look at it Freethinker. I didn't think of it that way but you're absolutely right. This is not the way they thought it would turn out or wanted it to turn out. This is almost a win-win given the hires.

 

[Leonardfan]

Brian Griese becoming the qb coach for the 49ers - after hearing him on the bspn mnf team it’s no surprise he wanted to coach a black quarterback.

I also saw that Lamar Jackson is whining about racial bias as a black qb in the league.

 

[Phall]

Brian Griese becoming the qb coach for the 49ers - after hearing him on the bspn mnf team it’s no surprise he wanted to coach a black quarterback.

I also saw that Lamar Jackson is whining about racial bias as a black qb in the league.

That’s a big step down, career-wise. Prime time commentary seems like a huge gig, especially now that Amazon is trying to pluck some names for whatever content they’ll be putting out.

If Griese wants to move up the coaching ladder, he is hanging his hopes on a very uncertain project in Trey Lance.

Ironically, I wonder if ESPN will find a diversity hire to replace him in the booth.

 

[Leonardfan]

That’s a big step down, career-wise. Prime time commentary seems like a huge gig, especially now that Amazon is trying to pluck some names for whatever content they’ll be putting out.

If Griese wants to move up the coaching ladder, he is hanging his hopes on a very uncertain project in Trey Lance.

Ironically, I wonder if ESPN will find a diversity hire to replace him in the booth.

Aikman moved over to BSPN. Sounds like Joe Buck will follow. Griese has been announcing both Monday night football and college games so I agree the coaching gig is certainly less lucrative.

 

[Leonardfan]

Here is more on Lamar Jackson. That cuck florio says what we have been saying for 15+ years about White athletes in his conclusion yet we are crazy delusional racists. This is what all of you need to use to throw back at them. Here's your ammo everyone:


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...-bias-against-black-quarterback-still-exists/

When it comes to embracing Black head coaches, the NFL needs to make plenty of progress. When it comes to embracing Black quarterbacks, the NFL has made plenty of progress. But one of the highest-profile Black quarterbacks think there’s more progress to be made.

On The Shop, which has migrated from HBO to YouTube for its fifth season, Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson discussed the lingering bias against Black quarterbacks.

“It’s dying off, but it’s still there,” LeBron James said.

“It’s still there,” Jackson said. “That’s why I need that championship. That’s why I need that championship.”

A championship wouldn’t necessarily iron out the broader mindset that potentially lingers, in some minds. As to Jackson, it would be the ultimate vindication for the clumsy effort to nudge him to receiver when he was entering the league four years ago. That’s precisely how the subject came up during the show.

But then there’s Kyler Murray, who last month found himself on the wrong end of a character assassination, with ESPN pushing a report that he’s self-centered, immature, finger-pointer. As if no other great quarterbacks, white or Black, display such traits — especially when things don’t go their way.

The GOAT when it comes to temper tantrums is, literally, the GOAT. Although it doesn’t happen very often because of his greatness, Tom Brady doesn’t hesitate to dress down teammates, yell at coaches, destroy tablets, scream at officials, and/or ghost Nick Foles.

Self-centered, immature, finger-pointer.

Still, the football world has changed dramatically when it comes to leveling the playing field for Black quarterbacks. And it’s not just a development for the NFL. The pigeonholing often began (and maybe still begins) at lower levels of the sports, with some youth coaches pushing the best white athletes to quarterback and the best Black athletes to running back, receiver, and defensive back. So with more Black players developing as quarterbacks and more Black quarterbacks playing and thriving in college, the NFL had no choice but to accept that the biases and stereotypes had changed.

 

[The Hock]

"No other great quarterback?"