NFL Draft 2012

[Highlander]

Here's a good article on Stanford's Pro Day:

http://www.cbssports.com/general/bl...s-strong-pro-day-for-stanfords-fantastic-four

BTW, Luck was throwing into 20 mph wind gusts and had three dropped passes, otherwise he would've been 49/50. Even so, I check out a Colts blog and the vast majority of DWF's were still clamoring for RGIII, one of them even using the phrase "more upside" in describing him. Imagine that. Hmmm, I wonder if it's his 5'11" height compared to Luck's 6' 4" height . Maybe that's the "upside" they are referring to.

The article mentions Luck, Fleener, and DeCastro as having impressive days.

DeCastro's profile:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631907

The other top (black) prospect (projected 1st Round), Jonathan Martin, "was disappointing" according to the article.

Advertised as a top-notch athlete, the First Team All-Pac 12 left tackle was timed at 5.33 seconds in his first attempt at the 40-yard dash. Worse, this attempt was aided by the wind. Martin came in at 5.43 seconds, according to scouts, on his second attempt against the wind. Perhaps more alarming was that the 6-5, 307-pound Martin lifted the bar only 20 times during the bench press and wasn't as fluid or explosive as DeCastro during position drills.

Martin was also just average in the vertical (30") and broad jump (8'8") - at least in comparison to how other highly regarded offensive tackles performed at the Combine. While Martin's disappointing Pro Day will no doubt raise some concerns, three impressive years protecting Luck's blind side speaks for itself and will almost surely keep the big man in the draft's initial frame.

"Advertised", indeed. "Affirmative Action", of course.

Also, the best WR on Stanford (hint: not Owusu) received some love:

"Former walk-on WR Griff Whalen, who led the 2011 Cardinal in receptions, yards and receiving TDs, clocked a 4.54 in the 40. Impervious to the temperatures in the low 50s, he took off his shirt for the passing drills and ran precise routes with sure hands."

Not that it matters for his chances of making it in the NFL with the entrenched Caste System, but he's a way underrated prospect, nonetheless.

Also, Fleener now appears to be a solid 1st Round pick, whereas before he was projected as an early 2nd Rounder. Personally, I think he could be a top 20 pick now after his performance. Now that Denver has taken Dreesen and Tamme, I think they are out of the picture. Many projections have him going to SF or Seattle and one has him going to the Texans as the 26th pick to replace Dreesen. That, would be great.

 

[Woody]

Vontaze Burfict (really, where do they get these names?) has fallen completely off some teams draft boards. He was a player always referred to as "an elite athlete," too bad his combine numbers didn't back that up...http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/35011522

Some samplings from scouting reports on Burfict, prior to his combine and pro day numbers. Remember, these opinions are based on what they saw from watching film, which leads me to believe even more fully that scouts have no eye for speed and just look at the athlete's skin color. That would explain why Luke Kuechley of all people had his athleticism questioned...

Walter Football: 9/2/11: "Vontaze Burfict has ideal size with excellent speed and is an elite athlete."

Optimum Scouting: "Burfict may be the best athlete at the Mike linebacker position coming out of college since Patrick Willis."

NFL's Future: "Burfict is an elite athlete for his size. He’s a quick twitch athlete with great short area quickness".

Todd McShay: "Burfict is a physical freak with tremendous athleticism and explosive power."

This gem from a featured columnist at BleacherReport is the best: "...there is not one athlete in this draft that can match the Arizona State linebacker's raw athleticism."

 

[Truthteller]

Vontaze Burfict (really, where do they get these names?) has fallen completely off some teams draft boards. He was a player always referred to as "an elite athlete," too bad his combine numbers didn't back that up...http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/35011522

Some samplings from scouting reports on Burfict, prior to his combine and pro day numbers. Remember, these opinions are based on what they saw from watching film, which leads me to believe even more fully that scouts have no eye for speed and just look at the athlete's skin color. That would explain why Luke Kuechley of all people had his athleticism questioned...

Walter Football: 9/2/11: "Vontaze Burfict has ideal size with excellent speed and is an elite athlete."

Optimum Scouting: "Burfict may be the best athlete at the Mike linebacker position coming out of college since Patrick Willis."

NFL's Future: "Burfict is an elite athlete for his size. He’s a quick twitch athlete with great short area quickness".

Todd McShay: "Burfict is a physical freak with tremendous athleticism and explosive power."

This gem from a featured columnist at BleacherReport is the best: "...there is not one athlete in this draft that can match the Arizona State linebacker's raw athleticism."

Great work Woody. Don, I nominate this post for being front page worthy...shows you how stupid and mis-informed these so called "draft experts" really are.

 

[Truthteller]

Also, the best WR on Stanford (hint: not Owusu) received some love:

"Former walk-on WR Griff Whalen, who led the 2011 Cardinal in receptions, yards and receiving TDs, clocked a 4.54 in the 40. Impervious to the temperatures in the low 50s, he took off his shirt for the passing drills and ran precise routes with sure hands."

Not that it matters for his chances of making it in the NFL with the entrenched Caste System, but he's a way underrated prospect, nonetheless.

Highlander, as I've noted before I don't follow college ball that much at all. I really only start getting into this a little bit when draft time rolls around and follow them close in the NFL. I've noticed a lot posts regarding talented, white receivers that had terrific college careers and fared just as well as, or better, than the "real athletes" at Pro Days.

It would be cool if some more informed CF members could make a list of the white WR's that have everything it takes to be drafted, except the wrong complexion...My guess is the list would include at least 9 to 12 guys? It would be a minor miracle, however, if even 5 where picked in the actual draft.

Devon Wylie, Danny Coale, Tyler Shoemaker, Jeremy Ebert, Whalen, the kids from Arizona and Arizona State, T.J. Moe, who else am I missing? I'm sure there are some fast, talented small-schoolers?

 

[Don Wassall]

Great work Woody. Don, I nominate this post for being front page worthy...shows you how stupid and mis-informed these so called "draft experts" really are.

Good idea. I believe Vontaze also has what the media euphemistically refers to as "character issues."

 

[Truthteller]

This gem from a featured columnist at BleacherReport is the best:"...there is not one athlete in this draft that can match the Arizona State linebacker's raw athleticism."

Actually, this guy from the Bleacher Report is 100% correct. There is NOT ONE athlete in the draft that can match his raw athleticism; there are at least 600-700 that can ound:


P.S: Thanks Don. This is one of the best posts I've seen at CF in a while. He really caught the dummies in a outright lie. Actually, it probably wasn't a lie. They are so brain-washed, that any useless slug the media hypes up they worship blindly...Jamarcus Russell anyone?

 

[foobar75]

You guys should check that racist fool Scott Wright and his forum from time to time. There's always a lot of White-bashing that goes on in there. There's in fact a thread about Fleener right now. A few clowns, includng Wright who had projected Fleener to be 4.7 guy are eating their words right now. To be fair, there are also some Fleener fans who are giving him hight praise, so not all DWFs are created equal.

Scott Wright, btw, is the one who put in his "report" that Toby Gerhart would be a fullback in the NFL.

 

[Thrashen]

Last season, I remember watching an ASU game in which the rotund “Mr. Burfict” was being permanently discussed (even when ASU’s offense was on the field), with one of the jock-huffing announcers gleefully suggesting that “Vontaze” was certainly: “I top twenty pick in the upcoming draft.” They kept harping on the fact that Burfict “is in on every defensive tackle.”

Really? Every tackle, huh? His stats for 2011: 69 total tackles, 5 sacks, 1 interception, and 3 pass breakups. In other words, the equivalent of about two games of work for Luke Kuechly.

Burfict will surely be another Brandon “Eye Gouger” Spikes…that is, an unathleitc, pudgy black slug with off-field issues that’ll still be drafted in the top three rounds…

CAPTION: Burfict A Perfect NFL Prospect

CAPTION: NCAA Obesty

CAPTION: Fatty Runs Fourty

At the combine, Burfict was measured to be 6’-1”, 248 lbs. To compare, I’m about 2.5” taller that Burfict, but I weight about 240 lbs with a body type similar to that of Jordy Nelson (I’m the same age as him, too). It’s startling to know what’ll pass for an “athlete” these days, so long as it’s skin cells are dark enough.

 

[dwid]

Last season, I remember watching an ASU game in which the rotund “Mr. Burfict” was being permanently discussed (even when ASU’s offense was on the field), with one of the jock-huffing announcers gleefully suggesting that “Vontaze” was certainly: “I top twenty pick in the upcoming draft.” They kept harping on the fact that Burfict “is in on every defensive tackle.” Really? Every tackle, huh? His stats for 2011: 69 total tackles, 5 sacks, 1 interception, and 3 pass breakups. In other words, the equivalent of about two games of work for Luke Kuechly. Burfict will surely be another Brandon “Eye Gouger” Spikes…that is, an unathleitc, pudgy black slug with off-field issues that’ll still be drafted in the top three rounds…[/B]At the combine, Burfict was measured to be 6’-1”, 248 lbs. To compare, I’m about 2.5” taller that Burfict, but I weight about 240 lbs with a body type similar to that of Jordy Nelson (I’m the same age as him, too). It’s startling to know what’ll pass for an “athlete” these days, so long as it’s skin cells are dark enough.

and it all traces back to...........Rivals and Scout. Both had him as a top recruit. Rivals had him number 1 for his position with a 6.1 rating which according to them is "Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect"

Amazing they can tell all of that just out of high school.....and they sure as hell don't like being wrong. Which is why it makes it even harder for a White receiver to get any respect coming out of college since plenty were walk ons and not rated by these services.

The biggest example at receiver this year is Tyler Shoemaker, walked on to Boise, holds the single season td record (16) for Boise, was 6 yards short of 1k on 62 catches, 6'1 215 pounds 4.4 speed and pretty much ignored and "may have worked his way into a late round pick after running a 4.4" when Austin Pettis AND Titus Young didn't have a problem getting drafted with less skill. Young was a 2nd round pick at 5'11 174 pounds 4.53 at the combine, 4.4something at Boise pro day and Pettis was a 3rd round pick at 6'3 208 pounds 4.61 at nfl combine. Shoemaker is closer to the size of Pettis with Young's speed, and had better production than Pettis when it came to yards/ypc and tds (Pettis had 950 yards as a senior on 72 catches, more catches, 10 tds).

Although it wouldn't matter if he had been rated or not because Whites don't get drafted earlier than the 6th round from Boise, which not only screws over Whites, it looks to be an attempt to darken the program by saying to any highly touted recruit (black) that if they come to Boise and show any ability at all that they will be in the NFL after college. There were 14 players on NFL rosters last year from Boise, I think 3 were White, 2 were fullbacks and one was an offensive lineman. I know one of the fullbacks was a backup and bounced from on the roster to off the roster quite a bit (Korey Hall), not sure about Brockel with the Panthers, I know he scored a td in the regular season but not sure how much he played. Ryan Clady had one good season and became overrated but has a ton of money now, the jury is still out on Pettis, Young showed promise as a rookie but thats it. The other are just collecting paychecks. Legedu Naanee's best season at Boise was 35 catches and 500 yards 6 tds and was taken in the 5th round after clocking a 4.4 at around 6'2 220 pounds. Shoemaker is ranked to go in the 6th at best.

 

[Don Wassall]

Great work Woody. Don, I nominate this post for being front page worthy...shows you how stupid and mis-informed these so called "draft experts" really are.

With help from Woody, Dwid and Thrashen, it's now a homepage article.

 

[Jimmy Chitwood]

great work, gentlemen! that is a hard-hitting article. very well done!

in further Draft-related news, Danny Coale once again showed dominant physical ability at Virginia Tech's Pro Day. and unlike so many affletes who perform (or don't) at the Combine, Coale didn't sit on his times. he went out and blew up again. from the recap:

Danny Coale, WR (5-11 7/8, 200) — Coale ran a 4.37 and 4.39 in the 40, posted a 37-inch vertical and 10-3 broad jump, and had times of 4.09 seconds in the short shuttle and 6.63 in the three-cone drill. Coale had a good position workout. With so many wide receivers in the draft, Coale projects as a likely selection in the sixth or seventh round.

yet, somehow, despite that obviouse explosiveness and his impressive on-field production, Coale-burner is still only projected to be a late draft pick ... meanwhile, even his own teammates who are less athletic and productive are still "better" than he is. "weird," huh?

i wonder what they have that he doesn't ...

 

[FootballDad]

Irsay: Luck is not a lock for Colts at No. 1

Ha! The media drumbeat for "RGIII" continues. I'm still sticking to my prediction that Irsay will ultimately be swayed to draft this supa-afflete at number 1.

 

[Woody]

The saddest thing is all the Redskins fans getting deathly afraid that the Colts will draft RGIII. They are in near hysteria on some comment sections, begging the Colts to draft Luck. Every now and then a "rational" voice will chime in that both are great QBs and getting Luck wouldn't be much of a drop off.

Stupidest, most easily deluded fans in sports.

 

[DixieDestroyer]

The saddest thing is all the Redskins fans getting deathly afraid that the Colts will draft RGIII. They are in near hysteria on some comment sections, begging the Colts to draft Luck. Every now and then a "rational" voice will chime in that both are great QBs and getting Luck wouldn't be much of a drop off.

Stupidest, most easily deluded fans in sports.

The Blackskins & their legion of DWFs sure do love the afroletes. :thumbdown:

 

[Don Wassall]

I was just watching the NFL Network's "Path to the (Always Overwhelmingly Black) Draft" and David DeCastro and Harrison Smith were both interviewed.

DeCastro was asked which guards in the NFL he most admired and he answered Steve Hutchinson, Logan Mankins and Alan Faneca.

After Caste Clown Mike Lombardi noted that Smith was the leading tackler in Notre Dame history, he asked him who was the toughest running back to bring down. Toby Gerhart, Smith answered. Gerhart was probably the only White RB Smith ever faced in college.

Hmm, seems like White football players still look up to other White football players despite decades of non-stop anti-White pro-Black brainwashing. Apparently White kids desire White role models as much as non-White kids. Who'd a thunk it?

I don't know if Smith's background has been mentioned in another thread here or not, but Lombardi noted that Harrison was an all-state running back. So Smith was lucky in the sense of perservering through Caste System hurdles and becoming an elite player after being racially slotted at ND, but why couldn't we be talking about him as the second ranked running back or cornerback in this year's draft rather than the second best safety? The answer is, for racial reasons only.

 

[Truthteller]

After Caste Clown Mike Lombardi noted that Smith was the leading tackler in Notre Dame history, he asked him who was the toughest running back to bring down. Toby Gerhart, Smith answered. Gerhart was probably the only White RB Smith ever faced in college.

Hmm, seems like White football players still look up to other White football players despite decades of non-stop anti-White pro-Black brainwashing. Apparently White kids desire White role models as much as non-White kids. Who'd a thunk it?

Kudo's to DeCastro and Smith. Back in November, Lombardi really went after Toby Gerhart, claiming he was completely worthless after the Atlanta game because he didn't score from the 1 yard line on one play. He even suggested Toby might be too slow to play fullback in the league. My guess is he must've really shuddered when Harrison throw such praise at Toby. If Lombardi knew Smith's answer (Gerhart) in advance, I seriously doubt he would have even asked the question?

Below is a great reply to Big Unreal from Thrashen last November regarding Toby being too slow to even play FB:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/threads/14067-NFL-Week-12?p=234007&viewfull=1#post234007

I don't know if Smith's background has been mentioned in another thread here or not, but Lombardi noted that Harrison was an all-state running back. So Smith was lucky in the sense of perservering through Caste System hurdles and becoming an elite player after being racially slotted at ND, but why couldn't we be talking about him as the second ranked running back or cornerback in this year's draft rather than the second best safety? The answer is, for racial reasons only.

Don, as I've noted many times I follow the NFL real close, but not much college football. I do, however, watch some "non-SEC teams" in college football a little bit (Notre Dame, Stanford, Northwestern, ect.) from time to time and have known of Harrison Smith since he was a freshman. Early in his career, it seemed like he was being groomed to eventually play linebacker. The fact that he's remained at safety is a pleasant surprise and a small victory against the "caste system.

 

[Don Wassall]

Kudo's to DeCastro and Smith. Back in November, Lombardi really went after Toby Gerhart, claiming he was completely worthless after the Atlanta game because he didn't score from the 1 yard line on one play. He even suggested Toby might be too slow to play fullback in the league. My guess is he must've really shuddered when Harrison throw such praise at Toby. If Lombardi knew Smith's answer (Gerhart) in advance, I seriously doubt he would have even asked the question?

Below is a great reply to Big Unreal from Thrashen last November regarding Toby being too slow to even play FB:

http://www.castefootball.us/forums/threads/14067-NFL-Week-12?p=234007&viewfull=1#post234007

Lombardi is pathetic. Another former linemen, I don't think there's a single one who isn't a one hundred percent reliable Caste clown.

The campaign against Gerhart was vicious, all because he didn't immediately start off great after Peterson went down. After Toby quickly picked it up and played well the whining stopped, but it will start right back up again the next time a White RB has to be used as an "emergency" starter. The success of Gerhart, Hillis, Woodhead, and Leonard in a limited role as a third down back hasn't changed anything as far as the mindset of the corporate media/DWF Axis that Whites are incapable of running the ball. Every White player at a position other than QB and kicker is always viewed with suspicion and has to have almost immediate success or risks being branded as a career backup at best (and that happens anyway a lot of the time, ala the growing group of White safeties who do well but aren't allowed to keep a starting job for long).

 

[Riddlewire]

Trent Richardson's "secret" 40 time

The Alabama Crimson Tide held its “Pro Day II†on Thursday morning, and running back Trent Richardson was the main attraction. Richardson has been recovering from a January knee scope.

We know the projected top-10 pick ran the forty-yard dash twice.
But we don’t really know what his forty time was.
It was repeatedly said on SportsCenter Thursday that Richardson registered “a 4.4 forty.†NFL Network’s Bucky Brooks clocked Richardson “in the 4.45 to 4.49 range.†The times relayed by ESPN3′s live broadcast were 4.58 and 4.58, “unofficially.†In his Pro Day review, SI.com draft analyst Tony Pauline wrote that Richardson “failed to run an elite 40 time.â€

Strange that there's no confirmed measurement for the "best back in the draft". Especially since 40 times are the second most important quantification for NFL RB hopefuls (the first being brown skin).
The instant report given by ESPN3 is probably what the electronic equipment measured Richardson at, and, therefore, most accurate. The other times are either unreliable handhelds, or have been adjusted to account for his "Superstar" status (we wouldn't want a future endorsement man and jersey seller to have a bad 40 time, would we?).
I've never heard of a Pro Day time being any less than half-a-tenth faster than a combine time. So Richardson's real 40 yard dash ability is most likely 4.63 or slower. That doesn't fit the narrative, though...

 

[dwid]

Trent Richardson's "secret" 40 time



Strange that there's no confirmed measurement for the "best back in the draft". Especially since 40 times are the second most important quantification for NFL RB hopefuls (the first being brown skin).
The instant report given by ESPN3 is probably what the electronic equipment measured Richardson at, and, therefore, most accurate. The other times are either unreliable handhelds, or have been adjusted to account for his "Superstar" status (we wouldn't want a future endorsement man and jersey seller to have a bad 40 time, would we?).
I've never heard of a Pro Day time being any less than half-a-tenth faster than a combine time. So Richardson's real 40 yard dash ability is most likely 4.63 or slower. That doesn't fit the narrative, though...

It didn't stop Mark Ingram from being a first round pick. Everyone is saying "look at the film"....funny how that doesn't apply to White players.

Found this while looking at the links

"Les Brown, a former college basketball player who has worked in the accounting department for Huntsman Gay Global Capital the past two years, wowed scouts with his athletic skills. The former NAIA Academic All-American, who never played college football, but lined up at small forward for the Westminster Griffins, measured 6-feet-4, 238 pounds and, despite a sprained ankle, ran a 4.44 in the 40. His other marks included a 39-inch vertical jump and 10-3 broad jump."

Can anyone confirm that this kid is White? I saw a small youtube clip and I am pretty sure but it was poor quality.

Edit: should have read further, he is White, looked up his brothers that play for BYU.

"Scouts project Brown, whose younger brother Braden plays offensive tackle for BYU, as a tight end. During position drills, he did not struggle catching the ball. After the workout, he was privately interviewed by a handful of teams. There remains a question of whether Brown, who graduated from high school in 2006, is even eligible for the draft or will be declared a free agent. Regardless, he caused enough of a stir to get into a camp this summer."

also found this about a top 5 ranked receiver in this draft
Baylor receiver Kendall Wright totaled just four reps on the 225-pound bench press at his Pro Day, raising concerns. “I know there are teams that have him sitting in the second and even third round after that workout,” he said.

 

[Highlander]

"Tannenhill shines at Pro Day, sends the top 10 into a tizzy"

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...nes-pro-day-sends-top-10-tizzy-015511720.html

It seems Miami is now in the best position to take him as the 8th overall selection:

"The Miami Dolphins, who recently hired Sherman as their offensive coordinator, have the eighth overall pick this year."

Sherman was Tannenhill's head coach while at A&M.

This also shows how bad he was robbed at the NCAA level when it took him until his senior year to replace the black quarterback in front of him and end his prolonged racial apprenticeship.

 

[Lew]

I'm starting to think supa afflete and genius Robert Griffin didn't score all that well on the Wonderlic. You know they would have leaked the results by now if he did so the media could hype him up some more. 2011's Wonderlic results were out by early March. Are they just going to stop sharing them from now on ?

 

[FootballDad]

I'm surprised that the Wonderlic results have ever been made public to begin with, since by looking at the scores, it's obviously RAYCISS!

 

[Lew]

I'm surprised that the Wonderlic results have ever been made public to begin with, since by looking at the scores, it's obviously RAYCISS!

true but the media has already done a great job of making everyone believe that the results are meaningless. IQ tests are inherently racist you know ?

 

[Deadlift]

"Tannenhill shines at Pro Day, sends the top 10 into a tizzy"

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...nes-pro-day-sends-top-10-tizzy-015511720.html

It seems Miami is now in the best position to take him as the 8th overall selection:

"The Miami Dolphins, who recently hired Sherman as their offensive coordinator, have the eighth overall pick this year."

Sherman was Tannenhill's head coach while at A&M.

This also shows how bad he was robbed at the NCAA level when it took him until his senior year to replace the black quarterback in front of him and end his prolonged racial apprenticeship.

Before his Senior season, Jerrod Johnson was playing quite well and putting up big numbers in the Big 12.. like almost every Big 12 QB. He's also A&M's all-time leader in passing yards.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/0...aggies-qb-jerrod-johnson-to-futures-contract/

Johnson measures in at about 6 feet 5, 243 pounds and was the all-time leading passer at Texas A&M with several school records to his credit. During his college career, Johnson completed 650 passes in 1,109 attempts for a 58.6 percent completion ratio. He totaled 8,011 yards passing with 67 touchdowns and 22 interceptions in 35 games. He also added 877 yards rushing on 331 carries.

A commenter named "Vegas" gives a good analysis of what happened during Johnson's Senior season.
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I like this article because it's about JJ, and it also shows that RG3 wasn't just being "pushed last year as a Junior".. And, as a sophomore, lily-White Baylor wimps started an "RG3 for Heisman" campaign, and sure enough, the MSM cameras' made sure to pan in on those signs!! The groundwork was being layed - extensively - during his sophomore year. http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews...texas-ams-jerrod-johnson-shows-why-hes-t.html

* Jerrod Johnson is really, really good. I know Robert Griffin is a stud, but JJ is the best Big 12 QB. The only other QB in the Big 12 who may be as good is Missouri's Blaine Gabbert.

How did he "know" that?? Perhaps it was the MSM, and Baylor wimps/RG3 fanboys, that told him that? Oh, yeah, and he runs track.. I think the MSM let us in on that a few times during his Frosh/Sophomore seasons.....

 

[Deadlift]

Is Houston following the paradigm of having a Whiter defense, but a blacker o-line? http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/18164577/draft-needs-houston-texans

OL: There will be change on the line with the Texans opting to release right tackle Eric Winston for cap reasons. That leaves a big hole. Rashad Butler, who spent last season on injured reserve, is listed as the starter now, although the Texans might address that in the draft. Left tackle Duane Brown is coming off his best season and established himself as one of the best left tackles in the game. The Texans did the smart thing and re-signed center Chris Myers, who fits perfectly in their system. He played to a Pro Bowl level last season. The Texans did lose right guard Mike Briesel to the Raiders, so Antoine Caldwell, who has started at times, will move into that spot. The left guard is Wade Smith, who didn't play as well in 2011 as he did the year before. There isn't a lot of experience behind the five starters, so that could be an issue.